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Title: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by LadyElaine on Aug 30th, 2005, 7:29pm I never read the damn newspaper. Its to depressing. Today Buddy brings it home so I can read about the storm. I read about a little boy that use to live down the street from us when we lived on Brian Ln. His Step Mother stomped him to death. She said she fell on him and it was a accident. Today she told the truth. She stomped him to death. Why my God why. It happen three years ago. It broke my heart then. This liitle boy Joey was the cutiest little boy. He was very bright. I just find it hard when people hurt children. I wish I had never picked the paper up. I am glad she told the truth. 20 years for what she did seems like so little to me. :'( http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/clayton/0805/claytrial0830a.html |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Woobie on Aug 30th, 2005, 7:33pm She should have gotten stomped to death herself. Jonny has a boot for that! they could make money for the victims of abuse that way.... put that shit on Pay Per View. makes me sick tina oh - and BTW - HUGS to you Elaine!!!!!!!!! [smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by jcmquix on Aug 30th, 2005, 7:37pm I agree with you 100%... this lady took a life and it is only going to cost her 20 years of hers... Something wrong there.... [smiley=huh.gif] I know we see alot of Bizzare stuff here in Florida, I am sure every elsewhere too... But you got to look for the good people in this world, who never get credit..... Its basically a Media Thing, they live on all the Horrible Stuff going on in the World, makes me wonder how many papers they would sell if they reported on Positive Things ??? :-/ Sorry for the Rant... I feel for You though.. Charlie |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Redd715 on Aug 30th, 2005, 7:50pm I've ranted about this in the past but it bares repeating. For all the things we need licences for, from hunting, fishing, our cats and dogs, our bikes and boats and cars and drivers, to be a lawyer, Doctor, electrician, or plummer, but no need to have any training whatsoever to be a parent. The MOST important job in the world! Thats all I have to say about this....I'm disgusted. |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by syzygy9 on Aug 30th, 2005, 7:56pm Here is an idea. Her jail cell should have nothing on the walls but a large picture of her now dead son with the words “Why Mommy?” Let her look at that for the rest of her time. |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Sean_C on Aug 30th, 2005, 7:57pm on 08/30/05 at 19:29:53, LadyElaine wrote:
I know in the prison social circle the rules are no kids, I'm sure they still apply to a female institution as well. Our thought and prayers are with that child. Sean............................. |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by alienspacebabe on Aug 30th, 2005, 8:20pm 20 years isn't enough Life isn't enough Death isn't enough |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by minnie on Aug 30th, 2005, 8:43pm :'( :'( :'( [smiley=bash.gif] I get so upset listening to the news that after a while I just don't watch or read it.when something comes up then I start watching again.I truely hope they put her in general population and not solitary confinement.there are alot of women (mothers )in prison that hate people who hurt children she will live every day of that twenty years being duely punished by these women.thats if they let her live that long.people who hurt children have a big bullseye on them ..... Minnie who's gonna go hug her girls....... |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by daniel_tn on Aug 30th, 2005, 8:53pm i agree. that dirtbag ought to stomp herself to death. some folks just ought not to reproduce, or be parents. losers. >:( |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Charlie on Aug 30th, 2005, 9:15pm Elaine: Be glad you read it in the paper rather than on cable news. I like the paper for these kinds of stories. As for this waste of carbon: I like one person's alternative to the death penalty: Kept separate, forced to watch or hear of the crime every day and a weekly beating from a family member, just bad enough to require some incompetent attention. Charlie |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by cootie on Aug 30th, 2005, 9:46pm Very sad story......There was a case around here where a huge dumpy way too heavy chick accidentally rolled off a chair and landed on her baby but was too obese to help herself and get herself up in time. That totally disgusted me.....sum people should not be allowed to multiply Pam |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by blossom on Aug 30th, 2005, 9:50pm on 08/30/05 at 19:56:20, syzygy9 wrote:
Now THAT is a great idea... along with electrodes hooked to her a$$hole that shoots a few nice volts of electricity through her at regular intervals, but not too regular so she doesn't get used to them. >:( Stupid B*tch. I am going to give Colin extra hugs and kisses tonight! Karen |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by sandie99 on Aug 31st, 2005, 1:40am :'( >:( |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Frank_W on Aug 31st, 2005, 7:56am This shit just breaks my heart... In Nashville, about six years ago, some woman's boyfriend put her two-year old daughter in the bathtub and then turned the hot water full-blast on her, and then left her lying in the tub, where she died two days later. At the time, my own daughter was two years old. I read that story and just cried... (and hugged my daughter a lot...) :'( >:( |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by burnt-toast on Aug 31st, 2005, 8:50am The other day I listened to a report about a guy going to trial for shooting and killing his second person in less than 5 years who had a rap sheet that was a laundry list of violent crimes. When the reporter asked how this could possibly be, the response was that the average prison time served for rape (against children and women) is less than 2 years and for murder less than 7 years. What's wrong with people? What's wrong with a criminal justice system that has become a joke? Who's rights are more important and protected - the criminal or the honest taxpaying citizens that are victims of crimes committed by repeat offenders who realize the courts and prison system will treat them like short-term hotel visitors? Regardless of their crimes? Tom |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by ghost62 on Aug 31st, 2005, 8:57am People like that NEED A SLOW PAINFUL DEATH! There is just no excuses for doing that. :'( :'( :-X >:( I just dont know what to say. :'( |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by ClusterChuck on Aug 31st, 2005, 9:35am As most of you know, I used to be a semi-professional clown. One of the things that I did, and loved doing, was visiting the children in the hospitals. Until ONE day ... ONE child ... I was visiting the children in the burns hospital. Most of them were in the day room. As I was going from child to child, I was about to go to the next child, when a nurse pulled me aside and told me not to expect much of a welcome from the next boy. He was afraid of most men. Why? Because his mother and father were divorced (or separated, I don’t remember which), and going through a nasty custody battle. The father took the boy, went to a motel room, and then doused him with gasoline, and set him on fire. The father’s comment was, “If I can’t get him, NO ONE will get him.” The little boy survived. What was the father’s punishment? A slap on the wrist. I think he got a whole 6 months in jail. (No abbreviations here: ) WHAT THE FUCK ?? ?? ?? As Lady E said “OMG What is wrong with people?” Chuck Footnote to the story: For some reason, that darling boy latched onto me. He did not want me to leave. Several times I had to. After all, clowns are not suppose to cry. This tyke REALLY got to me. Even as I type this, I have tears in my eyes. As hard as it was, I always made sure I went to visit him VERY regularly. Many times I went to visit just him. I always ended up bawling and totally ruining my makeup. But damnit, I did it anyway. He deserved that. |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Aug 31st, 2005, 9:53am Anyone who is found guilty of abusing a child should be 'fixed' before they even get sentenced. If you can't handle the responsibility of being around children, you should not be allowed to reproduce. While reading this post, I couldn't help but listen to this again. http://www.kashmirchicago.com/Pat/Twinkle.mp3 Listen to the innocent voice on this recording and tell me how anyone could have the heart to hurt a child. All I want to do after hearing this is go to my babysitters house and give my daughter a big hug. I was abused by several doctors when I was 10 years old and I have made a vow to completely destroy anyone who ever lays a hand on my child. Child abuse should always be punishable by the death penalty. [smiley=twocents.gif] |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Frank_W on Aug 31st, 2005, 10:24am on 08/31/05 at 09:35:19, ClusterChuck wrote:
I think I got some dust or something in my eye.... :'( :-X Thank you for the difference you made in that child's life, Chuck. It may seem a small thing, but to him, I'm sure it meant the whole world...[smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by nani on Aug 31st, 2005, 10:32am These stories are always horrible to hear about. I work with kids and nothing breaks my heart more than a child who is abused in any way. My knee jerk instinct is to want to do some very serious harm to the abuser. But, when I really stop to think about it, I have to remind myself that abuse is cyclical. No normal, well adjusted adult would abuse a child. The people who abuse children were children once, too. And odds are almost 100% of them were abused in their childhoods. There are many (like myself) who recognize that the harm that was done to me as a child could make me a child abuser. You begin to think it's "normal" to get the crap beaten out of you. Or to get called horrible names. My mom used to burn our hands on the gas burner of the stove if we touched something we shouldn't. WTF? Long ago, thankfully before I abused any of my kids, I realized that I could stop the cycle of abuse with me. I also used to work with child abusers, who really had NO IDEA that you could raise children without hitting them. It's all about learning new skills. Makes me want to cry. :'( |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by ghost62 on Aug 31st, 2005, 10:37am Chuck I remember that one on the news a while back. :'( How anyone could do that is OMG. I would give anything to meet that little guy and be able to tell him the a hole is dead. I swear I would eat that a-holes liver raw in front of him before he died. Yep guys I am in morbid mode today. >:( Today would be a bad day for me to see anyone hurting a child cause I would be in prison tomorrow. Sorry guys but some things push me way over the edge and this is The big one. I have 2 sons that just the thought of them being hurt like that sickens me and enrages me to a point of sheer unadulterated blood lust. I better stop before I go to far and there is alot more worse things and places I could go with this. thanks for letting me vent >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Aug 31st, 2005, 10:45am on 08/31/05 at 10:32:41, nani wrote:
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by ghost62 on Aug 31st, 2005, 10:52am Nani Mom you are sooooo correct. I too was severly abused and will never allow it to happen around me ever again. Now there are occasions where punishment is a good thing but spanking and beating are 2 totally different things. Thanks Nani for reminding me this is really about what is right and what is wrong. ;) :'( :'( :'( |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by nani on Aug 31st, 2005, 10:55am Yup, Mike. An occasional swat on the rear to get a kid's attention is one thing, beating them with a belt is another. We tend to confuse discipline with punishment. Discipline is about learning to control your own impulses. Our job is to "teach" kids to do that, not force them with threats of violence. I'm still working on that with my own impulses, LOL, so teaching my kids presents an accasional challenge. ;) |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Frank_W on Aug 31st, 2005, 11:11am on 08/31/05 at 10:32:41, nani wrote:
BINGO!! That's EXACTLY it, Nani. Breakin' the cycle here, too.... -Frank |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Aug 31st, 2005, 11:31am Be careful talking about spanking an unruly child. Last time I mentioned anything like that, the P.C. police told me to stop beating my child and called me a child abuser. Some people just don't have a clue. [smiley=duh.gif] |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by nani on Aug 31st, 2005, 11:36am Want my opinion on unruly kids? I'm gonna give it to you anyway... If a child is in immediate danger of hurting themselves or someone else... a swat will get their attention. If a child is being unruly at home... remove them to their room until they can calm down. If a child is unruly in public... remove them from wherever they are. Go sit in the car, go home, go sit in the restroom. Spanking is just a way to delay and distract from the negative behavior. Removing them from the center of the attention makes the behavior not worth the consequence. nani...32 years in the kid business... |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by ghost62 on Aug 31st, 2005, 11:42am Quote:
That cant be poss if you are only 29. ;;D |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by nani on Aug 31st, 2005, 11:44am Bless your heart, Mike... :-* |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Frank_W on Aug 31st, 2005, 12:24pm I grew up enduring horrific beatings, from the time I was eight years old, both at my father's belt, and at the fists and kicks of my mother. There were times when I wouldn't dress-out for gym because I was too covered with bruises up and down my back and legs. I was beaten unconscious so many times, and each time I regained consciousness, I was bitterly disappointed that I hadn't died. And there were worse things than the beatings... I cried so much, that my pillow honestly mildewed. I used to pray to God to change me, change my parents, or change the situation. I claimed that verse in the Bible that says, "Draw nigh unto the Lord and He shall draw nigh unto thee." I would spend all night going over and over my life, searching for some unconfessed sin that was somehow blocking my communication with God... Then I began praying for some sign that God was hearing me, that my anguished prayers were going somewhere besides the ceiling, praying for just one glance, one touch... Then I began praying to not awaken the next morning; that I would simply die in my sleep. I felt that I was cursed by God, and after listening to people in our church stand up and relate in glowing terms, this warm and wonderfully close relationship that they had with Jesus, I even wondered if I were the antichrist... I felt utterly abandoned by God, rejected by my parents, and every single day was full of nothing but pain. I finally kicked the Christian God out of my life, one night. I prayed a prayer that was so bitter, so awful and heartbreaking... I thought sure I would die from the pain of it. Paradoxically, this launched me on a passionate 13-year search to find God. To find something real and meaningful... I tried to kill myself on four separate occasions. Twice by overdose, (only to throw up, crying at the same time because I'd failed), a third time by trying to slash my wrists - but I lost my nerve... The last time, I loaded my father's .357, cocked the hammer back, and put the barrel in my mouth. I pulled the trigger. "SNAP!!" A miraculous misfire... At that point, I sort of had a bit of a breakdown... For the next hour, I was alternately laughing and crying, until I was able to pull myself together. I ran away from home four times, and each time, they or the police brought me back. The last time I ran away, it was into the Army. I wanted nothing more than to take a bullet in the head while pulling a wounded comrade out of the line of fire in some third world shithole. Things with my parents have since healed. We will never be close or have a warm familial kind of love between us... We are more like distant friends, now. There is affection, I guess... It's awkward, still. For a long time, whenever I was around or talking with them on the phone, they would start this hand-wringing routine about how sorry they were about what they had done. WTF did they want from me? Some kind of absolution? To me, it was like being slammed back into the hole I'd worked so hard to crawl out of. They were saddling me with their guilt. Finally, I told them that I didn't want to hear it, and that I forgave them, and that all we had was the present and the future. And now... Well, I'm a survivor. Scars are just proof that we've come through something, huh? |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by ghost62 on Aug 31st, 2005, 1:22pm Exactly Frank. Are you sure we are not the same person seperated by some strange transporter malfunction? To strange the crap we both say are the same for us both. :'( >:( Except for me it was Navy. |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Frank_W on Aug 31st, 2005, 1:50pm I'm sorry that anyone should ever have to go through anything like that, Mike. :'( Looking back on it all now, I can count it as gain. It's part of what has made me who I am. What a journey it's been.... |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Sean_C on Aug 31st, 2005, 6:19pm on 08/31/05 at 11:36:55, nani wrote:
Even if you were 2 minutes late for dinner? How bout if you left the light on in your room? Or if you didn't remember to wake you up at 6am? Then what? These kids don't stand a chance and most people ignore the signs. ie; relatives, friends, neighbors, teachers, councilors, clergy, should I go on. If you even think a child is being abused you should step up to the plate and say or do something. It IS your business is the reply that apply's to a child welfare, whether its yours or not. Save a childs life today...................report abuse ;) We've had this discussion before, disipline and abuse are 2 way different topics, don't get me wrong. Think twice before you swat, that pain takes aloooooooooooooong time to heal ;) Sean.......................................... edit: I just realised a swat and a smash are to different things, I automatically think of the other sorry Nan [smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by broomhilda on Aug 31st, 2005, 7:13pm Sad, tragic, my heart breaks when I hear of children and I grow tired seeing it everyday, looking into the eyes of a child who was brain damaged by her mother who had shaken her, the stories, the pain, the silent cries for help. I am glad to hear many of you have found the courage to heal and break the cycle, abuse is cyclical it takes one to break it and begin to start again. Abuse is cyclical, historic and systemic amonst many other things, food for thought... The first child brought into care was brought in by the SPCA, as there was nothing set up for children :-/ Hugs to all, off to hug my son |
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Title: Re: OMG What is wrong with people! Post by Redd715 on Aug 31st, 2005, 8:30pm Physical abuse is awful, but lets remember there are more forms of abuse than just physical. The mental and emotional harm some parents inflict on their children with NO physical abuse at all can and is just as damaging in the long run. Sometimes more so. The fact that this sort of abuse hovers under the radar is what makes all the more sinister. |
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