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(Message started by: Melissa on Aug 24^th, 2005, 3:06pm)

Title: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Melissa on Aug 24^th, 2005, 3:06pm

I need help in finding good authentic websites showing both Aramaic and Hebrew alphabets.

If anyone can help, that'd be great! I'm compiling what I want to give to my tatt guy.

Thanks in advance!

:)mel

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Goblin on Aug 24^th, 2005, 3:19pm

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/hebrew.htm

Best one I could find

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Melissa on Aug 24^th, 2005, 3:24pm

Thank you so much Goblin, that's great! Now all I need is Aramaic. I have a feeling that's going to be harder, LOL.

:)mel

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by seasonalboomer on Aug 24^th, 2005, 3:29pm

they got that too

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/aramaic.htm

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Goblin on Aug 24^th, 2005, 3:33pm

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/aramaic.htm

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by E-Double on Aug 24^th, 2005, 3:46pm

Mel,

Aramaic is the same writing as hebrew.

Yours truly,

The token Jew ;)

Here is the original Aramaic/Hebrew
http://www.omniglot.com/images/writing/aramaic.gif

Developed into this:
http://www.jewfaq.org/graphics/hebrew.gif

I only write this:
http://www.omniglot.com/images/writing/hebrew_cursive.gif

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Melissa on Aug 24^th, 2005, 8:27pm

Ah! Thank you so much Eric! I did not know that... :-[

Anyway, I think it is just beautiful writing, and I've decided to use it, instead of Sanskrit, for the names I'm going to have tattooed.

How though, would I write these names??

Jesse
Lily
Elijah

Doesn't Hebrew not have any vowels?

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by E-Double on Aug 24^th, 2005, 10:57pm

on 08/24/05 at 20:27:02, Melissa wrote:

Ah! Thank you so much Eric! I did not know that... :-[ Not common knowledge so no frowns ;)

Anyway, I think it is just beautiful writing, and I've decided to use it, instead of Sanskrit, for the names I'm going to have tattooed.

How though, would I write these names??

Remember, in Hebrew we write/read right to left

Jesse: JESSE is from the Hebrew word SHAI meaning GIFT. spell it like this: YUD SHIN YUD

Lily: Not Hebrew...2/3 ain't bad ;) write it this way LAMED LAMED YUD

Elijah : ELIJAH is a version of the Hebrew ELIYAHU which means
"the Lord is my God"spell it like this ALEPH LAMED YUD HEY VAV

Doesn't Hebrew not have any vowels?
It does but it is not necessary for this......another lesson :)

Look at what I previously showed you and match them to the transliterated names.

Gonna be sweet!!!

E

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Melissa on Aug 24^th, 2005, 11:07pm

OMG is this going to be gorgeous!!! I am so excited now, I cannot wait to set up my appointment!

Thanks again Eric, this means a LOT to me!

:-*:)mel

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by E-Double on Aug 24^th, 2005, 11:10pm

Better post a pic!!!!

My pleasure:)

Found these......

Vowels are what are under the letters. Not necessary

Elijah:
http://www.my-hebrew-name.com/view.cgi?image=eliyahu.gif&name=elijah&id=6794

Jesse:
http://www.my-hebrew-name.com/view.cgi?image=yishai.gif&name=jess&id=11847

Lily:
sorry couldnt find

Check out this site for some nice "font"
http://www.jewfaq.org/alephbet.htm

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Melissa on Aug 25^th, 2005, 12:18am

Thx Eric. I tried Lily, and it gave me these Hebrew names:

1 chavatzelet
2 nitza
3 shoshan
4 shoshana

I don't understand, which one would I use? :-/ I need to have Lily's name on there, of course. Perhaps I'll just use the translations you did for me. Would this be right?...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/mfiltz/namesinhebrew.jpg

It's a crude cut and paste job, and I would have Hoss (my tat guy) write the letters closer together, but I just want to get it right.

TY so much for being so patient with me!

:)

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by E-Double on Aug 25^th, 2005, 6:36am

on 08/25/05 at 00:18:28, Melissa wrote:

Jesse is correct. You can't go wrong because it is spelled the same way regardless ;;D

Elijah and Lily both need to be reversed.
The way you spelled it would be comparable to this:

Hajile and Ylil

Take the letters and just flip it. Then you are correct.
Start Right >>>>>>Left

Hope this was clear.

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by E-Double on Aug 25^th, 2005, 6:59am

1st is Jesse
2nd Lily
3rd Elijah

http://ed3.photosite.com/~photos/tn/519_348.ts1124970873140.jpg

My crude cut and paste ;)

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Melissa on Aug 25^th, 2005, 8:13am

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, lol. COOL!! [smiley=thumb.gif] ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D

TY TY TY TY TY! [smiley=biggrin.gif]

:-* :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by vig on Aug 25^th, 2005, 8:21am

on 08/24/05 at 15:46:17, E-Double wrote:

The tokin' Jew ;)

[smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Lizzie2 on Aug 25^th, 2005, 9:20am

Ex2 --

Did you ever read the book "Israel is 40"? Or rather....it's not a book to read really - it's a Hebrew songbook.

That's the first one I was taught to read and was always amused that the cover was on the 'back' so to speak!

So then because my aunt and uncle were responsible for my Hebrew education - I used to write them letters in English - but from right to left. Don't ask me why - I probably found it amusing!

Never really did get very far with the learning Hebrew bit! I always wished I'd had, but I think I was too young to concentrate on it much! LOL

Ex2 :)

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Frank_W on Aug 25^th, 2005, 9:41am

E-dub, did you see the movie, "Pi"? I thought the mathematical patterns in Hebrew were fascinating... I don't know enough about it to know if what they were talking about is accurate or not, but if it is, it's very compelling.

-Frank

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by E-Double on Aug 25^th, 2005, 4:05pm

on 08/25/05 at 09:41:24, Frank_W wrote:

Still have not seen it, however numerology in judaism runs deep. It is very possible that it is accurate.

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by cootie on Aug 25^th, 2005, 10:53pm

Gothic lettering is popular for tattoos and now days the chinese or japense lettering or symbols. I'm workin on my next tatt too......a big white tiger up my side. Probly from hip up to underarm......but will blend it in nicely with my other work. Colorful person Pam

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by clarence on Aug 25^th, 2005, 11:00pm

E - I didn't know that you were the token Jew! I learned Hebrew in Seminary (reading knowledge anyway), and I love it. I loved it more that Greek for sure. But, I haven't kept up on it like I should. Shalom,
Casey

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by clarence on Aug 26^th, 2005, 12:35pm

I was talking to a student at the college today who studies Hebrew Bible, and she make the suggestion that you could do the Hebrew word of Lily, as in the flower. Transliterated it would be: shoshan. I can probably do the Hebrew if you are interested.

Also, you can download a Hebrew font here:

http://bibleworks.com/fonts.html

Casey

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by cootie on Aug 26^th, 2005, 12:38pm

BTW Mel......where ya gonna get this new tatt.....or did ya mention it and I missed it......I love the letter tatts. Tiger tatt Pam

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by broomhilda on Aug 26^th, 2005, 12:53pm

Mel, its going to be beautiful!!!I can't wait to see pics, where and when? ;;D

One thing to bear in mind as I was researching doing my son's name is beware of the sites that claim translation, I went to a Chinese co-worker and had him translate and write Jonahs name for me as many sites are incorrect. If you can go to a source who can do it for you otherwise, you could be "lost in tanslation" :D

Signed another tattooed token Jew ;;D

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Melissa on Aug 26^th, 2005, 1:13pm

:) Thanks so much everyone!

Casey- That must be where the "shoshan" came from when I tried to translate her name on the website Eric gave me. What do you mean by "do the Hebrew"? Do you mean draw it onto paper and then scan it for me? If so, that would be so AWESOME! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Coots- At the moment, I am waiting to hear back from Ramon to see if he can draw me a cross that I want. I'd like it to be in shades of green with a white/silver "roping" in the center. I sketched out onto paper what I want, but it looks silly, LOL. The names I will be putting beneath the cross. I thought about having them on my chest, or beneath my tiger, but decided that beneath the cross seems to just "fit". :)

Andrea- Thank you so much hon! :-* As for getting it right, that's why I'm asking for advice. I want to get as much info. down of the accurate writing as possible. This will be on me for life, so I better not fuck it up! ;;D

You guys are great!

:)

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by E-Double on Aug 26^th, 2005, 1:25pm

I think Casey meant if you are doing all Hebrew names then do Lily in the Hebrew version.

I would stick to Lily just transliterated into Hebrew letters.

Jesse & Elijah are both Hebrew names while Lily is Latin I think.

That would be like calling me Enrique just because my spanish teacher decided that was the closest.

How do you want them designed?
Are you going to incorporate them into your other tat or around it?

I'd love to dabble with th caligraphy.
Gonna do it anyway just for fun :)

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Melissa on Aug 26^th, 2005, 1:41pm

Eric, ok, gotcha. ;) As for the font design, the fancier the better. Whatever the fanciest Hebrew writing is, is cool by me. I love caligraphy myself, used to have my own set. ;;D Anyway, the names will be by themselves, not incorporated into anything. Sorta floating there together, with Jesse's name on top, Lily's beneath, and then Elijah's on the bottom, all of them centered.

:)

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by clarence on Aug 26^th, 2005, 2:13pm

um, no... I can't actually draw it up. I meant that I could post what it would look like here. I am incredibly artistically challenged, though if I could do it for ya I would.

Eric has a point about the transliteration. It might seem out of place. I only thought that Since Jesse and Elijah were both Hebrew, then the word for lily (the flower) in Hebrew would make a third Hebrew word. It wouldn't sound "Lily," but it would mean lily. But Eric's Spanish Teacher analogy makes sense.

I am anxious to see how it turns out!

Casey

Title: Re: O/T, need help finding good web site...
Post by Melissa on Aug 26^th, 2005, 4:55pm

Casey, I'm a moron, ignore me, LOL. [smiley=laugh.gif]

There is a month long waiting list to get in for an appt. with my tat guy, so as soon as I have some artwork to give him, I'll make one. I'll definately put pics up after it's done!

:):):)melly