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Title: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by CHTom on Aug 23rd, 2005, 12:17pm This guy has got to be smoking or drinking something that really whacks you out -the article speaks for itself, it doesn't need any comments from me except that I think that Robertson has gone over the deep end-"Onward Christian Soldiers" has taken on a new meaning to him! (CNN) -- Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson has called for the United States to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him "a terrific danger" bent on exporting Communism and Islamic extremism across the Americas. "If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson told viewers on his "The 700 Club" show Monday. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war." Watch video of Robertson's comments Robertson, a contender for the Republican presidential nomination in 1988, called Chavez "a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us badly." "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability," Robertson said. "We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with." Robertson accused Chavez, a left-wing populist with close ties to Cuban President Fidel Castro, of trying to make Venezuela "a launching pad for Communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent." "This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen," he said. Chavez has said he believes the United States is trying to assassinate him, vowing that Venezuela, which accounts for more than 10 percent of U.S. oil imports, would shut off the flow of oil if that happens. The Unites States has denied such allegations in the past. Executive orders issued by Presidents Ford and Reagan banned political assassinations. Robertson's comments Monday were the latest in a string of controversial remarks in recent years by the religious broadcaster and founder of the Christian Coalition. Last October, during the heat of the presidential race, Robertson told CNN that during a meeting with President Bush before the invasion of Iraq, the president told him he did not believe there would be casualties. The White House strongly denied the claim. In May, during an ABC interview, Robertson ignited a firestorm with his response to a question about whether activist judges were more of a threat to America than terrorists. "If they look over the course of 100 years, I think the gradual erosion of the consensus that's held our country together is probably more serious than a few bearded terrorists who fly into buildings," he said. Defending his remarks in a letter to Sen. Frank Lautenberg, Robertson insisted he was not being cavalier about the 9/11 attacks. But he also refused to apologize, saying Supreme Court rulings on abortion, religious expression in the public square, pornography and same-sex marriage "are all of themselves graver dangers in the decades to come than the terrorists which our great nation has defeated in Afghanistan and Iraq." A 'nuke' for Foggy Bottom In October 2003, Robertson, criticizing the State Department during an interview on "The 700 Club," said "maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up," referring to the nickname for the department's headquarters in Washington. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher called the remark "despicable." In July 2003, Robertson asked his audience to pray for three justices to retire from the Supreme Court so they could be replaced with more conservative jurists. "One justice is 83 years old, another has cancer and another has a heart condition," he said. Robertson insisted he was only calling for prayers for the justices to retire and was not asking his followers to pray for their demise. In November 2002, Robertson charged that the Muslim holy book, the Quran, incites followers to kill people of other faiths and disputed Bush's characterization of Islam as a religion of peace. "It's clear from the teachings of the Quran and also from the history of Islam that it's anything but peaceful," Robertson said in a subsequent interview with CNN. "Of course there are peace-loving Muslims. But at the same time, at the core of this religion ... is jihad, and it is to subject the unbelievers either to forced conversion or death. That's what it teaches." |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by Frank_W on Aug 23rd, 2005, 12:19pm Pat Robertson is a fucking idiot. Period. That is all. |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by CHTom on Aug 23rd, 2005, 12:23pm AMEN! |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by seasonalboomer on Aug 23rd, 2005, 1:04pm Pat Robertson musta forgot that he is a Christian evangelical in 2005 and not a Catholic Pope from early in the last millenium. That's really the kind of shit you only say with a few people over a few beers, "man, if was in charge of this mess, I'd just take out that Chavez fella down in Venezuela....." and your buddies say, "Yeah, man, whack the dude, heh, heh, heh" And your buddies just happen to be Beavis and Butthead. scott (been gone for a few days -- went to bermuda.) |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by marlinsfan on Aug 23rd, 2005, 1:30pm Being born in Venezuela, I am refraining from making any comments. I don't want to turn this place into a political arena to express my deep disgust for Chavez. OOopps, couldn't hold it in :-X |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 23rd, 2005, 1:49pm Yet another in the long long list of non-biblical actions from the people that preach loudest. If Pat Robertson is really a religious person, then why is he saying that we should kill people? Isnt "thou shall not kill" one of the ten commandments? So, lemme get this straight: Pat Robertson was fighting for the right to have the Ten Commandments posted at courthouses, but he doesnt live his life according to the Ten commandments? Why was he fighting for the 10 commandments but he pisses on them? That lying sack of shit.....oh, wait, thats 2 of the 10 commandments that he has directly and wantonly pissed on......... BMonee |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by Melissa on Aug 23rd, 2005, 1:57pm :-X |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by alienspacebabe on Aug 23rd, 2005, 2:14pm A religious leader who's pro-murder? :-X |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by Melissa on Aug 23rd, 2005, 2:26pm on 08/23/05 at 14:14:50, alienspacebabe wrote:
A leader of WHO??? Not mine. ::) |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by vig on Aug 23rd, 2005, 2:28pm Pat must be sniffing some A-1 glue... way better than my brand.... |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by Sandy_C on Aug 23rd, 2005, 2:31pm Some Christian he is! Garbage is more like it. I know that we have problems with Chavez, and an assination attempt is probably not out of the realm of possibility. But for a so-called Christian, Robertson doesn't even practice what he preaches. UGH! |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by clarence on Aug 23rd, 2005, 2:33pm wow... |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by Frank_W on Aug 23rd, 2005, 2:35pm He'd be the first to denounce the radical Mullahs of Islam that announce jihads and promote violence. "Remove first the plank in thine own eye before the speck in thy brother's." |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by clarence on Aug 23rd, 2005, 2:41pm on 08/23/05 at 14:35:30, Frank_W wrote:
Great observation. Thanks Frank. |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by BikerBob on Aug 23rd, 2005, 3:55pm Venezuela Slams Robertson Over Remarks Tuesday, August 23, 2005 (08-23) 13:24 PDT CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- Pat Robertson's call for American agents to assassinate President Hugo Chavez is a "terrorist" statement that needs to be investigated by U.S. authorities, Venezuela said Tuesday. The Bush administration quickly distanced itself from the religious broadcaster. Robertson's suggestion Monday that the United States "take out" Chavez to stop Venezuela from becoming a "launching pad for communist influence and Muslim extremism" appeared likely to aggravate tensions between the United States and the world's fifth-largest oil exporting country. Chavez, who was democratically elected, has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of President Bush, accusing the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. The United States is the top buyer of Venezuelan oil, but Chavez has made it clear he wants to decrease the country's dependence on the U.S. market by finding other buyers. Winding up a visit to Cuba, Chavez said in response to questions from reporters at Havana's airport that he did not have information about Robertson's comments. "I haven't read anything. We haven't heard anything about him," Chavez said. "I don't even know who that person is." But Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel said the U.S. response to Robertson would be a test of its anti-terrorist policy and that Venezuela was studying its legal options. "The ball is in the U.S. court, after this criminal statement by a citizen of that country," Rangel said. "It's a huge hypocrisy to maintain this discourse against terrorism and at the same time, in the heart of that country, there are entirely terrorist statements like those." Rangel called Robertson "a man who seems to have quite a bit of influence in that country," adding sarcastically that his words were "very Christian." He said the comments "reveal that religious fundamentalism is one of the great problems facing humanity in these times." At the Pentagon, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld said when asked about Robertson's comments: "Our department doesn't do that kind of thing. It's against the law. He's a private citizen. Private citizens say all kinds of things all the time." State Department spokesman Sean McCormack called Robertson's remarks "inappropriate." "This is not the policy of the United States government. We do not share his views," McCormack said. The United States was believed in the past to have been involved in the 1963 assassination of South Vietnam President Ngo Binh Diem and attempts to assassinate Cuba's Fidel Castro. Political assassination was put off-limits by former President Gerald R. Ford in an executive order in the mid-1970s. Rumsfeld said he knew of no consideration ever being given to assassinating Chavez. "Not to my knowledge and I would think I would have knowledge," Rumsfeld said. Robertson is a founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a supporter of Bush, who was elected twice with the solid backing of Christian conservatives. The 75-year-old religious broadcaster has made controversial statements in the past. In October 2003, he suggested that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device. He has also said that feminism encourages women to "kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." On Monday, Robertson said on the Christian Broadcast Network's "The 700 Club": "We have the ability to take him (Chavez) out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability." "We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator," he continued. "It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with." "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson said. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop." Chavez has irritated U.S. officials with his fiery rhetoric against American "imperialism" and his increasingly close ties to U.S. enemies such as Cuba and Iran. He says he is leading Venezuela toward socialism and, in a visit to Cuba this week, praised Castro's system as a "revolutionary democracy." Although he is disliked in Washington, Venezuelans overwhelmingly supported Chavez in a failed recall effort by the opposition. Venezuela has demanded in the past that the United States crack down on Cuban and Venezuelan "terrorists" in Florida who they say are plotting against Chavez with conspirators in Venezuela. Chavez, a former army paratrooper, also has accused Washington of backing a short-lived coup against him in 2002, a charge U.S. officials have denied. Chavez is up for re-election next year, and polls suggest he is the favorite. Bernardo Alverez, the Venezuelan ambassador to Washington, said Tuesday that "it is essential that the U.S. government guarantee his safety when he visits this country in the future. ... We are concerned about the safety of our president." http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/08/23/international/i101324D20.DTL&hw=Robertson&sn=002&sc=876 |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by floridian on Aug 23rd, 2005, 6:03pm Quote:
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by Lizzie2 on Aug 23rd, 2005, 6:19pm LMAO Jonathan!!! Right on!!! |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by E-Double on Aug 23rd, 2005, 6:36pm [smiley=laugh.gif] Floridian Rocks! |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by Charlie on Aug 23rd, 2005, 10:42pm Par for the course for the guy who said that 9/11 was NYCs punishment by God for supporting abortion and liberal laws. "What a maroon" --- Daffy Duck. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by BobG on Aug 24th, 2005, 5:13am I agree that Robertson is a nut case. But, even a nut case can be right some times. I agree with some of the things he (allegedly) said. Assassinate that Venezuelan dude? Why not? No sweat off my ass. And besides, some people need to be killed. I did LMAO with this sentence Quote:
Hey Rummy, we all think a man in your position would have knowledge. But, we all know you don't. |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by Frank_W on Aug 24th, 2005, 7:40am on 08/23/05 at 22:42:06, Charlie wrote:
Oh, I'm sorry. Thanks for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts, though. It's actually Bugs Bunny. :) -Franko |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by Sandy_C on Aug 24th, 2005, 7:55am on 08/24/05 at 05:13:39, BobG wrote:
[smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif] LMAO - Right On!!!! |
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Title: Re: Now Venezuala? Nutt Cases Unite! Post by Bob P on Aug 24th, 2005, 8:32am Shame on Pat -------------- for giving away the plan. |
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