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(Message started by: Jonny on Aug 19th, 2005, 3:14pm)

Title: One would think....
Post by Jonny on Aug 19th, 2005, 3:14pm
that there would be at least a few in the crowd that would have tried something to stop this.

"Video of a gang that catches a "snitch" out in public. This girl dies as a result of the beating. Oakland, California"

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2005/august/ogrish-dot-com-oakland_mob_lynching_part1.wmv

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2005/august/ogrish-dot-com-oakland_mob_lynching_part2.wmv

I probably would have died trying, but I would not have stood there and watched this happen.

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by Karla on Aug 19th, 2005, 3:25pm
Madison just had a second gang related drive by shooting.  They have arrested 7 people in relation to the shooting and confiscated 3 cars.  However they believe more people were involved.  Gangs are taking over our schools etc. and the violence around here is increaseing.  Me I am to scared to get involved for my own safety and that of my family.  Plus what do you do to kids they think they are invinsible and will never die and that they know it all.  There are about 7 different gangs in our city alone.   I hated sending my kids to a public school but what can you do when you can't afford a private school?  Now I have 2 kids involved in gang acivity.  Dumb!  They swear it is nothiing to that level of killing or anything like that but I worry.  

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by LeLimey on Aug 19th, 2005, 3:32pm
Jesus wept, why didn't the driver of the car just get her out of there?? Thats unbelievable, horrible.

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by broomhilda on Aug 19th, 2005, 3:40pm
Tragic :'( Studied this in University one social psychology theory is known as Bystander Effect,


http://changingminds.org/explanations/theories/bystander_effect.htm

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by Frank_W on Aug 19th, 2005, 3:48pm
That's why, when administering CPR, you point directly at someone and make eye contact and tell that person specifically, "YOU CALL 9-11!"

People really are a bunch of sheep, until someone is brave enough to take charge, speak up, and do what must be done.

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by Sandy_C on Aug 19th, 2005, 4:05pm
Nothing but a bunch of animals!  Frank said sheep, more like wolves - pack animals.  Let me ask this, was the guy filming all this so busy with his camera that he couldn't call 911?

Don't many states have some sort of law that can hold you equally responsible if you witness something like this and just stand there watching it?  If not, they should.

Bring in an assault rifle and just start shooting!  There was not one single "innocent bystander" there.

Sandy

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by Jonny on Aug 19th, 2005, 4:12pm

on 08/19/05 at 16:05:35, Sandy_C wrote:
 Let me ask this, was the guy filming all this so busy with his camera that he couldn't call 911?


In the second video you can hear the guy filming screaming "Let me film it, let me film it" when they get her out of the car.

Scumbags!!

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by sassy_lady on Aug 19th, 2005, 4:13pm
[quote author=Karla   Now I have 2 kids involved in gang acivity.  Dumb!  They swear it is nothiing to that level of killing or anything like that but I worry.  [/quote]

If they are in a gang, get them out !!, you are the parent, not them, if you don't take ahold of your children, the gang will & they will end up in prison or DEAD!!! Take chrage back of your kids before you lose them !!!
We have gangs every where, doesn't matter what school they go to, it matters when the parents step in!!,
So step in & stay in, Let them know that you are not going to allow it !! & stay on their butts !! get them into sports or something, but get them out of the gangs !!
I don't know what is going on in your life or your childrens, it could be easy to get them out, & it could be hard!! But stay strong & get them out!!
If you want to talk, im me, been through this with my nephew!!, the whole family step up & in !!, even if you have to have someone with them 24/7, do it!! It's your childrens life you are saving!!! & could very well be some one elses too !!
Lots & Lots Of Prayers & Love To You & Yours!!
Jolene

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by Redd715 on Aug 19th, 2005, 4:17pm
I don't even need to watch this to feel sickened.  Human compassion is in such short supply.  Least this family is the exception rather than the rule.

Luv you all.

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by E-Double on Aug 19th, 2005, 4:21pm

on 08/19/05 at 15:40:39, broomhilda wrote:
Tragic :'( Studied this in University one social psychology theory is known as Bystander Effect,


http://changingminds.org/explanations/theories/bystander_effect.htm


on the flipside you have mob mentality.
People will follow the crowd and engage in horrible behavior that they "might" typically not do. We saw it in the '60's, Crown Heights, LA riots.....on and on

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by Jonny on Aug 19th, 2005, 4:28pm

on 08/19/05 at 16:21:59, E-Double wrote:
on the flipside you have mob mentality.
People will follow the crowd and engage in horrible behavior that they "might" typically not do. We saw it in the '60's, Crown Heights, LA riots.....on and on


That is for sure when its many on many, but we are talking a naked bleeding girl on the ground and men and women booting her in the head......30-1....where the hell is someone that sees that this girl is going to die?

Like I said, I would have died trying...I dont care what this chick did....she didnt deserve that.

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by maffumatt on Aug 19th, 2005, 4:29pm
animals..............

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by sassy_lady on Aug 19th, 2005, 4:45pm

on 08/19/05 at 16:28:23, Jonny wrote:
That is for sure when its many on many, but we are talking a naked bleeding girl on the ground and men and women booting her in the head......30-1....where the hell is someone that sees that this girl is going to die?

Like I said, I would have died trying...I dont care what this chick did....she didnt deserve that.



AMEN TO THAT!!! no one deserve a beating like that !!

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by E-Double on Aug 19th, 2005, 5:11pm

on 08/19/05 at 16:28:23, Jonny wrote:
That is for sure when its many on many, but we are talking a naked bleeding girl on the ground and men and women booting her in the head......30-1....where the hell is someone that sees that this girl is going to die?

That is part of the mob mentality

Like I said, I would have died trying...I dont care what this chick did....she didnt deserve that.

I completely agree and I would've died along side you fighting


Title: Re: One would think....
Post by Carl_D on Aug 19th, 2005, 5:39pm
Some say when evil people leave the earth, they will lose their soul.


I say, their actions prove that their soul is already gone.

:'(

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by Charlie on Aug 19th, 2005, 7:51pm
Damn. I love ghoulie shit but I can't download Jonny's videos. It takes all evening.  

Charlie http://subscribe.smileygenerator.us/all/albums/aiwan1//butcher.gif?SSImageQuality=Full

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by jimbo on Aug 19th, 2005, 11:17pm
Unfortunately, alot of the kids nowadays idolize all the stupid gang shit. They like to talk, dress and act the part of a real life gangbanger, but in reality most of them are just a bunch of pussies that are afraid to take an ass whippin. Everyone's a tough guy when they have a gun or outnumber the victim. The ones that really piss me off are the kids that have everything that they need in life and still insist on acting like they are from the hood. There is a term for them but I will not type it here. I say, drop their little asses off in the real life hood and see if they make it back home untouched.  (Which I doubt) Then, after getting their asses kicked or worse, we'll see how long their wannabe gangbanger mentality takes to wear off.

Sorry, I see this shit everyday and it pisses me off.
Send the idiots to my house and I'll show them how tough they ain't!

Seeya,

Jimbo

Title: Re: One would think....
Post by cootie on Aug 20th, 2005, 12:42am
Gangs are like wolve packs.......for some reason it has that sort of attraction to kids I guess......finding a pecking order in society can be skipped when in a gang......your in or someone gets it ! It fills there need to belong and individuality feelings....but it is all bad.....people are bonded by expiriences and gangs are just that......lots of secret stuff and with most alot of bad stuff planned and acted out. Most all gangs have some sort of initiation for probates......alot of your drive by shootings or inocent people attacked off the streets were done with a witness in order to become a full fledged member and again.....the expirience of what they did is the bond that ties them all together like a big secret. And again I say it is all BAD. When a dog attacks anouther one in a pack the others all feel the endreneline rush and attack also and with that.......the inocent get beat to death badly or die. Should be some way to put an end to it.......cuz it just creates the 'pack dog' acts. Dogs don't question who they are attacking......they just go for it and when blood is drawn it becomes a slaughter. Once they get the taste of blood they are more dangerous then ever. And gangs like packs are territorial. People must be bored these days if playing out animal instincts is cool. Gangless Pam



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