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Title: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:32pm SANTA FE, N.M. (July 25) - Actress and activist Jane Fonda says she intends to take a cross-country bus tour to call for an end to U.S. military operations in Iraq. "I can't go into any detail except to say that it's going to be pretty exciting,'' she said. Fonda said her anti-war tour in March will use a bus that runs on "vegetable oil.'' She will be joined by families of Iraq war veterans and her daughter. They plan to return to the Santa Fe area, where she was promoting her book, "My Life So Far'' on Saturday. Prompted by a question from the audience, Fonda said war veterans that she has met on a nationwide book tour have encouraged her to break her silence on the Iraq war. "I've decided I'm coming out,'' she said. Hundreds of people in the audience cheered loudly when Fonda announced her intentions to join the anti-Iraq war movement. "I have not taken a stand on any war since Vietnam,'' she said. "I carry a lot of baggage from that.'' Fonda incited controversy in July 1972 when she was photographed sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun while on a tour of the country to drum up support to end the war. 07/25/05 09:03 EDT This has got to be all about the money with her book >:( Anybody got any spit they can spare |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:37pm I am speechless.... (Well, not really, but the words that are running through my head right now, are not fit to be put in print.) And yeah, given the chance, I would spit straight in her face. [smiley=stfu.gif] [smiley=mad.gif] [smiley=looser.gif] [smiley=furious.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:41pm Do you think she'll drive to ground zero? How bout Tour London? http://cdn.news.aol.com/aolnews_photos/0e/01/20050724223809990003 |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:41pm I think it's a ballsy move on her part. She's putting herself on the line again for standing up for what she believes. I, for one, respect that. I doubt she would make the same mistake of crticizing the troops (which I never felt was OK). |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:43pm Put your bra back on Nan ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:44pm LMAO, Seannie!!! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:46pm on 07/25/05 at 21:41:34, nani wrote:
She giving them a moral boost I'll take it :-/ |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:48pm Its gotta be about the money, I don't see her making friends like this, there will be no winners. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:48pm Quote:
I doubt it, hun. Not too may are, including the old men who sent them. :-/ I still think it's cool to put your action where you're mouth is. :-* |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:50pm I just don't understand why she can't quietly STFU. I mean really... She made such a foolish ass of herself during the Vietnam War. Wasn't that enough to last her for the rest of her life? She claims all of these supporters, but I'm calling shenanigans on that. I can't think of any young veterans, nor any veterans who are old enough to have served in Vietnam, giving her one bit of support. And if my kid were in Iraq, risking her life, I'd want Jane Fonda to shut her fucking cakehole, and sit the fuck down. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:57pm on 07/25/05 at 21:50:10, Frank_W wrote:
Those guys all fought for her (and our) right to say what ever we want. Most Viet Nam vets I know have gotten over it. War itself is hell enough...holding on to grudges makes life more bitter. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pattik on Jul 25th, 2005, 9:58pm on 07/25/05 at 21:50:10, Frank_W wrote:
Hey, whatever happened to free speech? Nani, I agree that actions speak much louder than words, and I thought this was a country where diversity of opinion is supposed to be cherished. Jane won't sell more books by doing this--maybe less, and to me that shows real courage. She could just sit back with all her money and "STFU" as Frank would suggest, but her convictions mean something to her. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:01pm All I'm saying is, if she wanted to make a statement, that's fine. More power to her. I may not agree, but yes, I would be happy to defend her right to air her views. However, organizing a friggin' crusade.. That just seems way over the top. The potential injury, pain, and damage to troop morale far outweighs whatever benefit she is hoping to gain by this latest publicity stunt. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:05pm I'm not sure how to tell you this, Frank... but many folks are against this war. And very quietly, building up slowly in the shadows...is the next "Anti War Movement". The longer the war goes on, the louder it will get. And sadly, the kids who are out there putting their lives on the line for political reasons and greed will be the only ones really suffering. :'( Damn shame.... |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:08pm She can say and do anything she wants, I just don't take any interest in her moral views thats all. I agree with Frank, she should STFU. Its all about her and the book, she really doesn't give a shit about anybody but herself. She obviously won't stop the war, but she'll create dought, and thats not what OUR men and women in uniform need. They need support, and I support our troops 100%, and so should you. Why doesn't Jane tour the Country in support of Terrorism, same thing isn't it? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pattik on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:09pm I don't think you are giving our troops enough credit regarding their morale. I doubt that Ms Fonda's actions will bring them down if their convictions are solid. And as to her making a "crusade", I don't think a simple press release statement would have any kind of impact. We can support our troops without supporting their cause. One can be a patriot without promoting killing. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:12pm Cut the shit Nan, they just imploded th subways in London. Is this what you want to see? Your neighbor getting his head chopped off, or your friend killed from a car bomb? Look closely at the cause and effects of terrorism, you won't like what you see. http://chatalyst.net/U.S._Revenge.wmv |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:13pm on 07/25/05 at 22:08:51, Sean_C wrote:
First, prove to me that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 or London. And...Sean, I don't think it's fair to say I don't support the troops. I support them very much. Which is why I want them all safely stateside, not fighting a personal war for someone. Anybody know where Osama bin Laden is? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pattik on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:17pm on 07/25/05 at 22:12:53, Sean_C wrote:
I think that you're getting off the subject Sean--this is about Fonda's right to voice her opinion--not the fact that we have a war against terror on our hands all over the world--not just Iraq. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:19pm Sean...back away from this thread. You are surrounded by aging hippie, bra burning women's libbers. ;;D Your worst nightmare!! :P :-* |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:20pm on 07/25/05 at 22:13:44, nani wrote:
Yes. I am reasonably certain that he has been neutralized as a threat, and he has been contained, holing up in the tribal region between Pakistan and Afghanistan. If we capture him, we lose. If we kill him, we lose. If we make a spectacle of him, we lose. As long as he's stuck in the mountains and can't organize anything, can't receive anymore money, can't train anymore terrorists, and can't make anymore grandiose plans, screw it. Let him stay up there. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pattik on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:21pm on 07/25/05 at 22:19:44, nani wrote:
You go girl!!! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:25pm on 07/25/05 at 22:19:44, nani wrote:
ROTFLMMFAO I love you Nan ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:28pm I love you, too honey. :-* |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:30pm :) Hugfest!! :) By the way, I will say this: When I was in Iraq, we often heard about people slagging off the war, wondering why we were there, saying it was just for oil, blah blah blah... The newspapers, what few we got, were full of this crap. And yes, I can tell you first-hand, that it DOES hurt the morale of the troops. :( >:( :-/ |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pattik on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:32pm on 07/25/05 at 22:30:29, Frank_W wrote:
[smiley=hug.gif] [smiley=hug.gif] [smiley=hug.gif] [smiley=hug.gif]DITTO! [smiley=hug.gif] [smiley=hug.gif] [smiley=hug.gif] [smiley=hug.gif] [smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:33pm We just started to have fun, we're not gonna hug already are we ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:33pm [smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by maffumatt on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:33pm on 07/25/05 at 21:57:57, nani wrote:
not my dad he cant stand the bitch |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:33pm on 07/25/05 at 22:32:09, pattik wrote:
ROTFLMMFAO |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:35pm on 07/25/05 at 22:33:37, maffumatt wrote:
She's got sex appeal for an ol' fart I'll give her that much, only thing that would make it better is if she wouldn't speak after sex ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:37pm on 07/25/05 at 22:35:57, Sean_C wrote:
Anybody gonna challenge that? ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:39pm Maybe she'd have sex appeal if she had a brain transplant. She nauseates me. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:42pm on 07/25/05 at 22:39:59, Frank_W wrote:
Thats cause she has a mouth bro;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pattik on Jul 25th, 2005, 10:45pm on 07/25/05 at 22:42:03, Sean_C wrote:
...and I'm sure she knows how to use it. She wouldn't likely use it on someone who calls her a bitch ;;D..sorry boys [smiley=nopity.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by ClusterChuck on Jul 25th, 2005, 11:10pm A little backround on me. I joined the Navy in 1967. I did NOT want to get drafted and sent to the jungle and get my ass shot up. BUT I did want to do my duty, and serve my time. I fvelt then, and feel now, that I WANTED to do my duty, to MY country, BUT I was VERY much against the USA being in Vietnam. As a matter of fact, while I was stationed in Washington, DC, I participated in MANY anti-war protests, and was fired apon, several times, with teargas (NASTY stuff). I did not think we should have been there, but I was fully behind the troops that were there. They were brave honorable men. NOW, I am against the USA being in Iraq. We were sent there under false pretences. We should not be there. Iraq will NEVER be a democratic nation. I support our brave and honorable men and women that are serving there. I do NOT support the old fart peckerheads that put us there and are running that fiasco. A new Vietnam is in progress. Didn't the meatheads in Washington learn ANYTHING from Vietnam? We need to let the powers that be, know that we are AGAINST us being there. Maybe it takes a Jane Fonda to start it up. Maybe she learned her lesson, and will support the troops, but get the powers that be to get the fuck out of there. I hated what she did back during my time in the Navy, but I am willing to give her another chance to rally the populace. She better not fuck it up again. on 07/25/05 at 22:20:07, Frank_W wrote:
Sorry, Frank, my brother, but I think you are TOTALLY wrong on your evaluation of his standing right now. He may be in hiding, but he is still directing terrorism throughout the world. He is still a HUGE danger. We have hurt him, and made him change his mode of operation, BUT he is smart enough to get around what we have done to him. He is STILL a major threat to the world! Chuck who normally does NOT get up on a soapbox .. Stepping down now ... Next speaker?? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 25th, 2005, 11:20pm I didn't call her that. (a bitch) I try never to call women that, even when they seem to be working so hard to garner that title. LOL I just don't think much of her, though. She's such a polarizing figure... There are other causes that she could champion, if she wasn't trying to bank on the things she did during the Vietnam War. She could join the fight to end female circumcision, or work with Amnesty International, Peace Corp, Doctors Without Borders, any one of a dozen organizations devoted to clearing out old fields of land mines, or she could be involved domestically with "Habitat For Humanity," some of the programs that are geared towards helping our soldiers afford plane tickets home, or putting together care packages for the troops. There are literally dozens upon dozens of causes that she could be such a positive influence. I think this latest "crusade" is for very cavalier reasons, (her book), and I think she purposely picked politico-military issues because she's banking on having been a traitor and a supporter of the enemy during Vietnam, and on being such a polarizing and controversial figure. I was willing to believe that maybe with age, she had learned a little more, maybe mellowed a bit, and was trying to make peace with the men and the nation that she hurt. I can only see this opening all of the old wounds again... While on one hand, I can respect her views and even her need to be involved in some way, I can only see this having negative consequences both for the troops, the families of troops, and for Ms. Fonda. [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 25th, 2005, 11:25pm on 07/25/05 at 23:10:56, ClusterChuck wrote:
Thank you for your service, Chuck. *snappy salute to you* Welcome home. You may be right about bin Laden. Still, I think it's a matter of time before he is perhaps, quietly and secretly disposed of. Time will tell.... |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by cootie on Jul 25th, 2005, 11:25pm She should of stopped at 'Barberella'.......she bores me like an old golf trophy Pam |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by godsjoy777 on Jul 25th, 2005, 11:25pm I have to tell you what.....Way back when.....during the Viet Nam War.....I was influenced by the likes of Hanoi Jane and John Kerry.....and I, like so many, fell for the line of "give peace a chance" hook line and sinker.....BUT....when I developed a brain and studied about what actually happened there.....I had to repent for my part of joining the band wagon because it sounded "humane" when actually the peace movement HURT any good that should have come out of that war.....Helping the honest to goodness downtrodden.....sad to say, the tide ( me included) swept to the left.....and anything good was halted for sure......and we "got out".....and then what happened???? Pol Pot and his murderous bunch massacered millions of his own people.....Should we be proud of that? That's what "getting out" did to all those people over there..... So....IF....the "give peaca a chance" airheaded pretend pacefists get their way....the same thing will happen and it will be all for naught.....I can say that because I was one of them......so sad to say.... :-/ I pray for our soldiers now....and lift them up whenever I see them....and pray that Jane will not get much of an organization off the ground.... I do believe in having an opinion and I love you all.....agree with me or not.....but I just had to express mine...... Passionately, Karen |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 26th, 2005, 1:19am For those of you who are against Jane Fonda speaking out against the war, which most Americans oppose (68% last poll that I saw): isn't freedom of speech our basic right under our constitution? Isn't that right one of the reasons that George W. says that we are in Iraq? Should it be a crime to disagree with the administration and their policies? If people don't speak out against policies that we disagree with, then we will no longer be a democracy and presidents will be free to do whatever they want. Remember the old saying (I think Thomas Nast, the famous 19th century political cartoonist said it): "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundral." I think that getting our troops out of Iraq is the best support that we can give them-just like Vietnam (the phoney Gulf of Tonkin incident), we were led into this mess by being told a bunch of lies. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Charlie on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:23am Some stuff about Jane, etc. First: bin Laden: The guy is something like 6' 4," sick and has to be hooked up to medical equipment. The thing is: He must be on another planet. Just how hard is it to find a six-four Arab attached to his luggage? Jane: I have a hard time with Vietnam. I never had to worry as a 4-F. Back then, I was a Libertarian Republican...well most of them were. I believed my leaders back then. No longer. Anyway, I didn't follow Jane much other than her career. I know of her protests from years after the fact and it skewes my thinking. She was a dumb kid like so many but was able to make a lot more noise....kind of a Rush Limbaugh of the far left, very loud. He is not a patriot. He makes a lot of money saying so every ten minutes. Easy. I have to say that Chuck and I pretty much agree. She was young and missed the target. Johnson and Nixon were the bullseyes, not our poor kids. Today, I hope she has better aim. It's not a problem for me. I do think that she's gone a little around the bend with the Jesus thing. It's weird coming from her. Finally: This thing "Do you support the troops?" gets in the way. Of course everybody supports them and wants them to succeed and/or get back home. That question stifles debate on the issue of the war and this kind of war needs it badly. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by AussieBrian on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:36am Causes of all human wars over the last 6,000 years: 1.) Religion 2.) Real estate 3.) ...................... |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Topical on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:39am I'm guessing number three is drugs. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Kirk on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:48am I'm a former Marine and Viet Nam Veteran. I can't stand that person. I will be passably happy to to hear of her passing from this plane of existence. While she is here I must endure her self serving mouthings. I hope this all dies down and she is ignored from this point on. She deserves no less. Perhaps her purpose in life is to serve as a bad example? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by BarbaraD on Jul 26th, 2005, 5:52am Our troops do NOT have ample armour in Iraq - the government (not Jane) is at fault. At a time when hospitals are needed our government (not Jane) is closing military and veteran hospitals and/or cutting back on services. Maybe Jane didn't do any good protesting Viet Nam (I personally think she went overboard), but at least she had the nerve to speak up. I spoke up also - just not as loudly - I was never against the troops - just the damn war. History has proven it was a stupid war we should have never been involved in. We lost over 100,000 American lives for nothing. I'm totally against Iraq - it's a useless war of lies and deceit. 100 years from now Iraq will be right back where it was when we destroyed it. It's not worth one American life. It's about oil and ego. Our kids should not be there getting blown up and killed. I for one, want them all back home where they belong. Not in some remote country getting killed for nothing. But as someone said in another chain on the MB, until people get off their apathetic butts and speak up against things - we'll just keep on being lemmings and going along with whatever "they" tell us and not think for ourselves. Maybe it's about time we got some democracy back in the good old US and quit worrying about the rest of the world. Off my soapbox (for now!) Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by don on Jul 26th, 2005, 6:39am Quote:
That statement about says it all to me. Hey lady, you want excitement then go to 6 flags. Her bus comes through here and I'll flatten its tires. Repeatedly. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by maffumatt on Jul 26th, 2005, 6:47am this is how important Jane Fonda is, aint worth the time and effort |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by burnt-toast on Jul 26th, 2005, 6:47am Jane Fonda - Not my favorite person, past approach to anti-war demonstrations blaming/bashing our troops is unforgiveabe. Free Speech - Jane has a right just like you and I. Isn't that what our troops are supposedly fighting for? If she gets out of her rockin' chair and you don't like what she's doing or you do like what she's doing feel free to say so. Iraq - Combat terriorism/Bring democracy to the Middle East? This government leaves me no choice but to cry foul and ask 'what the F#ck were they thinking. Any military genious who has opened one history book should know you can destroy an army but you can't defeat an endless stream of Islamic Fundamentalists that will follow. We're infidels and by religious teachings and practices - must be driven out. Sheding blood and sacrificing one's life is taught. The same type of war took Russia off the key player list not so very long ago. Way too much big money involved and we're no safer from terrorism today. Islamic Fundamentalists in the Middle East will never permit a democracy. Jane should think about using her resources to go "Hanoi" on our corrupt/greedy political system. I'll join her if she does. Osama Bin Ladin - We should have relentlessly focused on his capture and had some of the Islamic people/families he tortured toast him on a pole to be shown around the world. Would have had a better result in the "War On Terror" than initiating a bogus war in Iraq and fuelng a growing a Islamic hatred for the infidels in invading countries. Troops - No matter what the circumstances men and women from anywhere and everywhere U.S.A. have earned respect and admiration. They're the only thing that's right and true about this situation. The courage/bravery, resilancy and dedication they have shown in the worst situations is unbelieveable. They were tasked with an extremely difficult and dangerous job and are doing it with whatever they were given. Getting out of the war - Like I've said before when you disturb a bees nest you can (1)kill all the bees, (2) run away. - Neither is a good choice, we can't kill em' all and if we run away that's going to become one big bad-ass nest (just like Afganistan when Russia pulled it's troops out and the U.S. stopped helping Osama). Our only option is to dramatically reduce our dependence on oil by fully developing existing technologies to take power/world significance away from the Middle East. Unfortunately there isn't and oil company er' a' I mean representative in Washington that's going to let that happen - only a mass effort by 'The People' can resolve this problem. Tom |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by LeLimey on Jul 26th, 2005, 6:51am Free speech means she has the right to say what she wants to say. It also means we have the right to tell her what we think of what she has to say. I for one will exersize my rights if she DOES come to London |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by burnt-toast on Jul 26th, 2005, 6:57am on 07/26/05 at 06:51:51, LeLimey wrote:
Exactly! Tom |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 26th, 2005, 7:41am Right on, Helen. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by godsjoy777 on Jul 26th, 2005, 9:14am Right on....right on.....Boy are we a passionate group.... [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by LadyElaine on Jul 26th, 2005, 10:07am Well My son in law DID NOT DIE for nothing! He died protecting her rights. He died protecting us all. I don't like any war. My family doesn't care if they blow IRAQ up. I have nothing nice to say about the people in IRAQ. Our troops I believe are there and heros and weather the war is right or not I stand behind them. I will stand behind my goverment to. I don't know all the details of the war only what I read and see on TV. I don't have the full picture nor all the details as Bush, and the secartary of defence does and others. Untill I do I stand behind them. I stand behind the USA no matter what. As far as activist Jane Fonda, I don't like her I think she is a spoilded brat. I also think she is promoting her book. I watched Golden Pound and cheered when Katherine hepburn slaped her face. To bad it was just a movie ! Yea she has a right to her opinion and so do I. Drop her ass off in IRAQ and let her be there first hand and see if she has the same feeling when she comes back. Bet she don't! These men and women that have died over there and their familys tore apart I can not and WILL never believe it was for nothing NEVER! Jayne Fonda can kiss my a$$! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by BobG on Jul 26th, 2005, 11:28am on 07/25/05 at 21:57:57, nani wrote:
True, they did go to war for the right to say what you want, up to a point. But, nobody went to war for her right to go to an enemy of the United States and tell the communist troops to kill the Americans. Most Vietnam Vets have gotten over it? Bullshit. Those Vets who claim to have gotten over it are probably not Vets and were probably never even in the service. There's a lot of wanna-be vets out there. I am a Vietnam Vet and I know hundreds of Vietnam Vets and not one of them has gotten over it. on 07/25/05 at 21:48:10, Sean_C wrote:
BINGO! This is all about Hanoi Jane promoting herself. That wrinkled old has-been should quietly go die. on 07/25/05 at 22:08:51, Sean_C wrote:
Bingo again. All she is trying to do is creat a market for her money scheme. Her nasty mouth will be headlines in the papers and encourage the terrorists to increase their rampage of murder. on 07/25/05 at 22:09:00, pattik wrote:
That's true but, in the case of Hanoi Jane, she promoted the killing of American troops. on 07/25/05 at 23:10:56, ClusterChuck wrote:
on 07/26/05 at 01:19:30, hdido wrote:
on 07/26/05 at 05:52:21, BarbaraD wrote:
It's not about her speaking up. It is about how she went about it. She should have been sent to prison for treason. on 07/26/05 at 06:51:51, LeLimey wrote:
No it doesn't any more than the right to own a gun gives me the right to shoot her in the face. Fuck Hanoi Jane. I'm done. For now. Have a nice day. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 26th, 2005, 11:50am on 07/26/05 at 11:28:06, BobG wrote:
I said most vets that I know. My husband included. He once said...she's not worth the energy...and could you imagine if the world knew about the stupid things I said and did at that age? While what she did was a slap in the face to all you guys, and I sure never felt that it was OK, all of society gave you guys the finger when you got back. And that's what really sucks. The old guys send the young ones out there to fight for all the wrong reasons. And the only ones to really pay a price, are the kids and their families. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by floridian on Jul 26th, 2005, 11:54am on 07/25/05 at 22:20:07, Frank_W wrote:
By that line of rationalization, it was a stroke of misfortune that we caught Saddam! I think capturing bin Laden would be a good thing. Better that he be in custody than free or a martyr. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 26th, 2005, 11:57am on 07/26/05 at 11:54:33, floridian wrote:
I agree with this, too. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by BobG on Jul 26th, 2005, 12:02pm I wonder if any of the CIA spooks have thought about just picking up the phone and calling Osama's momma and ask where he is. [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Gator on Jul 26th, 2005, 12:22pm Jane Fonda should have been shot as a traitor as soon as she came back from her North Vietman Tour. Hers and others' antics cast a negative cloud over our troops, causing them to be despised, spit on and even assaulted as they returned from overseas. This anti-military feeling was still present even as I entered the military in 1980. I can recall getting disapproving or disgusted looks and hearing disparaging remarks about the military when I went out in public. If anyone died for nothing in Vietnam, it's because politicians were running the war instead of our generals. Politicians tied our soldiers hands and kept them from doing their jobs. Politicians pulled us out before the objective had been accomplished. Our wishy washy approach to war and pulling out too soon caused thousands of our troops to be killed and millions of those we fought and died for to be brutally murdered. At least we did learn something. During the Gulf wars, we let our military do it's job and they kicked ass with a quickness. As far as pulling out of Iraq - what people don't seem to remember is we are still in Europe, Korea, Japan and other places 50 plus years later. We've been in Iraq for a couple years and people are already complaining. We've already accomplished more than the nay sayers said we would. We still have a ways to go. Pull out now and it WILL be Nam all over again. Thousands of troops will have died for nothing and hundreds of thousands or millions of people will suffer. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 26th, 2005, 12:28pm Right on, Mike. Nice post. [smiley=thumb.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 26th, 2005, 12:41pm I supported attacking Afganistan because they attacked us....but that was just a side-show for Bush and company. Had we committed even half the resources and troops to Afganistan, then we could have done some good, but what Bush wanted was his war with Saddam and he used 9/11 as his excuse. What have we accomplished in Afganistan? With about 15,000 troops there we control Kabul and that is about it; the Taliban are still around, as is Bin Laden, the war lords control the rest of the country and are growing more opium than ever before and flooding the world-including the US-with heroin. Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld, IMO, never cared about Afganistan or the people there, who did support our invasion; they were planning for the Iraq war long before 9/11 and I think that they actually believed that we could go in, throw out Saddam and all of the Iraquis would love us and throw flowers instead of bullets. I think that our brave soldiers are dying in vain in Iraq-for what are they dying? Saddam was never a threat to us, had nothing to do with 9/11, didn't have weapons of mass destruction and was not a threat to his neighbors. That war was started to satisfy the egos of George and company, their lies have been exposed and they continue to lie; the insurgency is bigger than ever and we have created more terrorists than Bin Laden could have ever dreamed of; like or dislike Jane Fonda, she is among the majority of Americans who now believe that we need to get out of Iraq. I do not believe in supporting what should be said, more accurately, "My Politians Right or Wrong", for that is not democracy and gives them free reign to do what they want to do. With an all volunteer Army, which is probably going to go down the tubes if we remain in Iraq much longer, a president can send troops anywhere because, unlke Vietnam and other wars, a very small part of the population are soldiers and while they sacrifice the rest of us go on with our normal lives. They are brave men and women but they are dying in vain in the sense that their deaths are not serving a noble cause with the exception of giving their lives to save their fellow soldiers; I think that the sooner more people realize that our soldiers lives are being squandered, the sooner some movement might start amongst the populace to get us out of there and throw the bums who got us in there out of office. I really do fear that if the current group of people remain in office, those with Bush's philosophy, that soon not only will criticizing the war be made a crime but also critcizing the government as well. Right now Muslims are the focus of our government's attention. A German theologian said of the Nazi's in Germany: "First they came for the communists, but I did nothing because I wasn't a communtist; then they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I wasn't a Jew; then they came for me and by then there was no one left who could do anything." To those who have lost loved ones in this war, their dying in vain is no shame, for they died protecting their brother and sister soldiers, but we must stop the loss of our best and bravest and prevent future Iraq's. We still have a chance to help Afganistan if we focus our attention there, but, sadly, I doubt that that will happen and they will be forgotten. Forgive me if I rambled on too long, but I was a soldier and I have worked with soldiers for over 20 years and it hurts me when each one dies or is wounded. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by floridian on Jul 26th, 2005, 12:54pm on 07/26/05 at 12:22:53, Gator wrote:
Yes, the politicians are largely to blame - but the military did not have its hands tied in Vietnam - they dropped more bombs on Vietnam and Cambodia than were dropped by all sides in WWII. We had 1/2 million soldiers in a country with only 10 millon people. We had assassination squads that roamed the countryside and took out anyone suspected of being VC. We relocated villagers in areas where the VC was active. We ultimately lost the Vietnam conflict not because of Fonda, but because our mission was upgefukt from the begining. We cancelled elections because we thought Ho Chi Minh would win. We launched a coup to take down one leader of South Vietnam, and propped up a corrupt dictator. We thought that our cold-war concerns were more important than the nationalist aspirations of the Vietnamese, but we weren't willing to lose as much to keep Vietnam non-communist as they were willing to lose to evict the foreign occupiers. If we lose in Iraq, it will not be because Jane Fonda decided to come out of retirement and made a Rocky Balboa styled comeback. The planning of the Iraq mission by the executive branch was negligent from the begining. They did not understand the country, and did not understand the enemy or anticipate their actions. Unlike Vietnam, in Iraq, the generals did have their hands tied. Many wanted more boots on the ground - but they were relieved of their commands if they spoke out. Iraq was intended to prove the 'modern warfare' ideas of Wolfowitz and Perle. Unfortunately, their idea of small, heavily armed very mobile forces only works to topple governments; it doesn't allow one to maintain control in a restive area. And all evidence suggests Iraq is sliding into a civil war, while the US will experience serious issues with troop numbers in the fall of 2006. May you live in interesting times, courtesy of the Project for a New American Century, the power behind the throne. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Melissa on Jul 26th, 2005, 1:06pm my opinion? political threads suck. :P |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 26th, 2005, 1:26pm I agree, Mel. I'm so agreeable.... ;;D [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Melissa on Jul 26th, 2005, 1:43pm Hey Frank, would you agree that I look good in anything I wear? Or any weight I'm at? Or how about my voice, don't you think it sounds lovely? ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 26th, 2005, 1:46pm "Dah-ling, you look MAHHHHH-velous!!" 8) [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Gator on Jul 26th, 2005, 2:37pm Why is there an ad for mental health disorders at the bottom of the page? What are they trying to say? Huh? LMAO Quote:
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by burnt-toast on Jul 26th, 2005, 2:43pm on 07/26/05 at 14:37:16, Gator wrote:
I'm not sure but they're startin' to show up at the bottom of every page on the board. Usually they base these ads on information entered in the Posts. Do ya' think.... hey.....! Tom |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 26th, 2005, 2:44pm /singing, "I'm not crazy! INSTITUTIONALIZED!! You're the one that's crazy!! INSTITUTIONALIZED!!" [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by seasonalboomer on Jul 26th, 2005, 2:45pm on 07/26/05 at 14:43:12, burnt-toast wrote:
I think they're following me...... and then they seem to wink and speak to me in some strange mayan dialect, and then I turn and say "boo!" to them and they shrink away into the computer screen. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jul 26th, 2005, 2:46pm I dont understand......why are some of you upset that Jane Fonda is going to exercise her first ammendment right and going to drum up american support for the end of the Iraq occupation? Why does it frost your balls so much that this woman would prefer to not have the US military in Iraq? If you want to spit in her face cause she does not want her military in iraq, you would be spitting in about 60% of all american's face. Why do you want to spit in 60% of America's face? BMonee |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by seasonalboomer on Jul 26th, 2005, 2:51pm on 07/26/05 at 14:46:05, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
I think that they're just exercising their First Amendment rights to say they think Jane is old addled broad trying to promote her new book. Shouldn't be a problem with saying that about Jane. Have you seen her latest interviews? I don't think it is spitting in the face of people to criticize them. I think it is part of the great American dialogue. Good on everyone for making their voices heard over all the political correctness. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by burnt-toast on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:01pm on 07/26/05 at 14:46:05, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
I have no problems with Jane Fonda exercising her first amendment rights to oppose the war in Iraq. I also have no problems this anyone who exercises their first amendment rights by either supporting her or by opposing her. As posted earlier - isn't this one of the freedoms our troops are out there fighting for? Tom |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:02pm Support The War Against Terror [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:14pm Well, if someone says" I dislike Jane Fonda because she expressed her opinion and it differs from mine", that is the first ammendment. But when someone says things like they want to spit in her face, or cause her bodily harm, or calls her names, that is going beyond the first ammendment, and it then is called a hate crime. Just like Bush tried to tie 9/11 to Iraq, bush supporters try to tie the war in Iraq to the war in Afganistan. I have never heard anyone ever say that the USA should not go after terrorists. I have never heard anyone say the USA should not have invaded Afganistan looking for Bin Laden and bombing terrorist training camps. No one has ever said that. To pretend that anyone ever said that is nothing more than lies and propaganda. Just because a person doesnt want to invade Iraq, doesnt mean they dont want to hunt down and kill terrorists. Iraq and the war on terror have nothing to do with each other. Howcome when the Kuwait civilians are in danger, the USA sent 500k troops, but when the USA is in danger and we have deaths to avenge, the USA only sent 35k troops to Afganistan? Does this mean the USA values Kuwaiti life more than American life? Whats up with that? BMonee |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:17pm on 07/26/05 at 14:46:05, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Look again B What's your reaction to Fonda speaking out? A) She's a traitor............................51% B) I don't care what she says...........28% C) She's a patriot...........................20% How seriously do you take Fonda? A) Not at all...................................72% B) Very.........................................16% C) Somewhat.................................12% Total Votes:..................................406,623 I guess your in the 20 percentile |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:24pm Sean, did i ever say she is a patriot? I dont recall ever saying that. I dont know her story, i dont know her, i dont know why she is even famous, i dont know why she gets any airtime at all. I dont care about her and i probably never will. However, we were talking about speaking one's mind. Whether i care about Jane Fonda or not, she still has the right to say whatever (legal) things she wants to.(granted, she cant yell FIRE in a crowded building, or cant say things about wanting to harm the president). I also have the right to either listen to her or to not listen to her. I guess that makes me in the 100 percentile. 100% of Americans not only have the right to speak, but they have the right to listen also. So, if you wanna put me into a group, that is the one i belong in, the American group, where 100% of the people have the freedom to have a political opinion. BMonee |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:29pm on 07/26/05 at 15:14:08, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Saddam was hostile to the U.N. inspectors when asked to resolve the inteligence reports that he was creating dirty bombs and nuclear wepons of some sort. He refused to let them inspect and at one point we had to withdraw the inspectors in fear of there lives. At that point I would assume Saddam cleared out his tools of distruction and let them back in as he did. They found nothing but the assumptions were still there and rightfully so. There's no doubt in my mind that if someone pisses off CHUHUNG SOLOW in North Korea he's gonna make the threat of launch and possibly do it, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people all in the name of rightousness and of course "for the good of mankind". edit: We have a mission to keep the peace, if the mission fails, all hell breaks loose from there, THEY WIN, the WORLD LOSES. JMHO like it or not ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:34pm Maybe I miss read it B, no harm done my friend, I was just posting the results ;;D Sean................................ |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by seasonalboomer on Jul 26th, 2005, 3:39pm on 07/26/05 at 15:14:08, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
You're letting your slip show.... "Hate crime"???? No, this would simply be criminal assault if she were to want to file charges. Hate crime, my goodness that's a good one. Jane Fonda a victim of a hate crime........ [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] she has lived as charmed life as one can buy on this planet. She's been able to speak her opinion and do as she pleases. She needs no defenders. But she should be able to accept that many people differ with her opinion and feel quite strongly about it. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by ghost62 on Jul 26th, 2005, 4:13pm on 07/26/05 at 15:14:08, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/teryasin.htm fled to Iraq http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/teralzawahiri.htm in Iraq killing/decapitating people over 15 terrorist training camps directly affiliated with alquida shut down and destroyed in Iraq And much much more ... these are FACTS not being released by the beloved media. and as far as the troop count recheck your numbers they are drastically wrong and using the numbers the media release are wrong so bad place to check... the numbers for Desert Storm are combined UN troops and naval personel, And the Afghanastan numbers reflect the US troops only on the ground. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by maffumatt on Jul 26th, 2005, 4:19pm How do you think the guys that sneaked her notes that listed the names of the POWs that were being held felt when they were punished and really tortured (not the panty on the head kind, but the kind where their arms were dislocated ) because she turned those notes over to their gaurds? If that is not giveing aid and comfort to the enemy I don't know what is. How do you think they felt when she called them criminals and baby killers infront of the cameras? An apology does not suffice. She was not expressing free speach, she could have done that at home. Its funny my dad could get spit on as a form of free speach, she gets spit on and its assault. Added.......If anyone would like to read about my dads experiances in Vietnam, his story is published in a book compiled by Matthew Brennan titled Head Hunters, the experiances of the 1/9 cav. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 26th, 2005, 4:22pm To be fair Matt, that story is actually urban legend. http://snopes.com/military/fonda.asp But it doesn't justify what she did. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by maffumatt on Jul 26th, 2005, 4:31pm I stand corrected........doesnt change my opinion of her however. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Jonny on Jul 26th, 2005, 4:34pm Where has janes big fat fucking mouth been since the war started?...fucking ho has nothing to say untill she has a book for sale. Givin the chance I would put my boot in her ass!! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 26th, 2005, 4:39pm on 07/26/05 at 16:31:05, maffumatt wrote:
Ditto, Matt. What she did was certainly bad enough, and I agree with Jonny. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Bob P on Jul 26th, 2005, 4:54pm Jane Fonda sucks! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Melissa on Jul 26th, 2005, 5:02pm on 07/26/05 at 16:39:45, Frank_W wrote:
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Topical on Jul 26th, 2005, 5:19pm on 07/26/05 at 16:19:06, maffumatt wrote:
Do you have any links to her saying this? I'd like to read it. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by TxBasslady on Jul 26th, 2005, 5:22pm No doubt, she'll burn in Hell for her deeds in Viet Nam. I hate liars, cheaters, and TRAITORS. Once a bitch......always a bitch! But a traitor bitch.....well now....that just about takes the cake. What goes 'round....comes 'round. Her payday will come..... Jean |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jul 26th, 2005, 5:48pm Liars, cheaters and traitors?!?!?!?!?!? Sounds like you are talking about the Bush administration now. ;) BMonee |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pattik on Jul 26th, 2005, 5:56pm on 07/26/05 at 15:02:52, Frank_W wrote:
Take that back, Frank, or I might have to change my opinion about you. So are you a misogynist after all? >:( :-/ |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by maffumatt on Jul 26th, 2005, 5:57pm sounds more like Bill's conversation to Hillary than Bush.... |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Bob P on Jul 26th, 2005, 6:16pm From About.com: Quote:
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 26th, 2005, 7:27pm on 07/26/05 at 17:56:33, pattik wrote:
Come on Pat, this is far from Frank, he was only playing around :-/ Misogyny is an exaggerated aversion towards women. Compared with anti-woman sexism, misogyny is usually regarded as directed against women by some men, though women can also harbor misogynistic views. In feminist theory, misogyny is recognised as a political ideology similar to racism or anti-Semitism, existing to justify and reproduce the subordination of women by men. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek and means to hate (misein) woman (gyne). |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jul 26th, 2005, 7:32pm And by the way, the correct term is not massagonist, it's masseuse. I'd like a 90 minute please. BMonee |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 26th, 2005, 7:33pm on 07/26/05 at 19:27:39, Sean_C wrote:
Sheesh, Seannie, what didja do, eat Jonny's dictionary?? LOL ;;D BTW... I'm having a 35 year commemorative bra burning this weekend at my house. R U Coming? ;) |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 26th, 2005, 7:37pm on 07/26/05 at 19:33:25, nani wrote:
I wouldn't miss it for the world ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 26th, 2005, 7:45pm on 07/26/05 at 19:37:21, Sean_C wrote:
Good. Be sure to bring your bra. I don't own any. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Kevin_M on Jul 26th, 2005, 8:05pm So... who's buying her book? ok, not funny. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Melissa on Jul 26th, 2005, 8:05pm hmmmm. burning ones bra....i hate my bra....maybe thislbe something enlightening for me.... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Melissa on Jul 26th, 2005, 8:07pm on 07/26/05 at 20:05:19, Kevin_M wrote:
LOL Kev...you commented on your own silly comment...hehe ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 26th, 2005, 8:27pm on 07/26/05 at 19:45:10, nani wrote:
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by rickyshot on Jul 26th, 2005, 8:41pm on 07/25/05 at 23:20:43, Frank_W wrote:
Double ditto on that. She is full of shit. Why has she been so quiet all these years if she is such an activist. She is polarizing but I do respect her right to do as she pleases. I don't agree with her at all or her tactics. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 26th, 2005, 8:59pm on 07/26/05 at 20:41:02, rickyshot wrote:
She's more than likely running low on funds and/or attention. Apparently controvercy pays well by the sounds of it. I just wish she's stop supporting terrorism, because its gonna amount to the same thing. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by E-Double on Jul 26th, 2005, 9:12pm on Today at 7:33pm, nani wrote: Quote:
Isn't that WAY OFF TOPIC????? [smiley=laugh.gif] and quite forward of you ;) |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Charlie on Jul 26th, 2005, 10:12pm http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/russian.gif Charlie |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 27th, 2005, 12:49am Maybe if we stopped using the word terrorist and instead called those people criminals instead, people wouldn't be in such a panic. We had a lot of bombings, killing of police, etc. in the late 60's and early 70's by political extremist groups and yet we didn't have the reaction-or over reaction, particularly by government-that we are now having. The people responsible for the violence in the 60s and 70s were pretty much all caught and sent to jail for a long time without resorting to measures that threaten our civil rights. Words do make a difference and the current crop of radicals are criminals. Could it be that the great fear of them is because, for the most part, they are foreigners and not Americans? Just a thought. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Pinkfloyd on Jul 27th, 2005, 2:35am on 07/27/05 at 00:49:33, hdido wrote:
Maybe we should just call them for dinner. Anyone know how to make Goat's Eye Soup? on 07/27/05 at 00:49:33, hdido wrote:
I guess you never saw footage of the 68 convention in Chicago, in History class. Talk about over-reaction by the government. And that was just from those terrible activists (criminals) sticking flowers into the gun muzzles of the "man" on 07/27/05 at 00:49:33, hdido wrote:
Oh really? Back then the FBI was doing everything and more than is now allowed under the Patriot act. Many of the violent radicals were killed, not imprisoned. on 07/27/05 at 00:49:33, hdido wrote:
No. Abbie Hoffman & Jerry Rubin didn't blow up commuter trains. The Black Panthers, the Weathermen, and even the SLA didn't fly any airplanes into tall buildings. The fear now is because these terrorists do those things. Bobw |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by TxBasslady on Jul 27th, 2005, 2:57am on 07/26/05 at 19:33:25, nani wrote:
on 07/26/05 at 21:12:34, E-Double wrote:
LMFAO....Edub.... Leave it to a man.... [smiley=bag.gif] Jean |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 27th, 2005, 3:12am Saw all that stuff on the nightly news back then; yes, the FBI and local police (Chicago cops murdered Fred Hampton as he slept) and Ohio National Guard (Kent State) did things that were against the law, but I think that the crucial difference is that now the Federal Government wants to codify llimitations on our rights into law-the FBI wants to be able to see what books we borrow from the library (thought police?); they want to be able to bypass the requirement for a judge to sign a search warrent (let the FBI Director authorize it instead-ha! I'll bet he'll be real objective about that!). If the turmoil of the 60's and early 70's didn't bring our society crashing down (indeed, it improved it in many ways, such as voting rights, equality for women-not fully realized, but that is where it started, the civil rights movement) I really don't think that possibly a few hundred people will do it. No, they didn't crash planes into buildings (and no commuter trains here have been bombed), but they did blow up buildings, rob banks, kill cops, etc. I think that we have enough laws on the books to handle any terrorist incidents and am against such things as indefinite preventive detention without beign charged (about 40 people are in that situation now in the US), no access to lawyers or the outside world; I don't think that it is the government's business to know what I read, write or watch. Under current laws, if a police agency has sufficient evidence that someone is engaging in criminal activity, they can get search warrents, wire taps, etc. from a judge, but no government or police agency should be able to throw out a big net, invade peoples' privacy and rights just to see if they catch anything-that is not what America is all about. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Jonny on Jul 27th, 2005, 5:48pm on 07/27/05 at 03:12:51, hdido wrote:
No, they have not, so lets just sit on our fucking asses until they are...Is that your great plan, John? Hey Pink.....Excelent post, Bro!!! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 27th, 2005, 6:35pm Boring. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Jonny on Jul 27th, 2005, 6:39pm on 07/27/05 at 18:35:34, hdido wrote:
I knew that would shut that wind bag you got going up ;;D Edit to add: Hey John.....maybe we should email this video to all our enemies....what do you think? http://www.thehumorarchives.com/humor/0001243.html |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:14pm Actually, Jonny Boy, I don't know anything about sitting on a fucking behind as mine has never been fucked-perhaps you can describe how it feels for me and the rest of us who haven't experienced that. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Jonny on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:17pm on 07/27/05 at 20:14:29, hdido wrote:
Oh wow, are you angry with me, John? Shall I call Don to cool you down?....you seem overheated.....;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:30pm Angry? No, actually I find your posts on this subject hilarious...and you didn't answer my question...how does it feel to have your behind fucked? Wasn't too long ago that a boy/man with hair as long as yours was "profiled" as a potential troublemaker and in certain parts of the country would have had the shit beat out of him. Might have been good for you to have experienced that, maybe would have taught you a bit of tolerance for others. I'm really surprised and disgusted by the number of blatently racist posts on this thread. Go into a Muslim neighborhood and mouth off there about kicking them out of the US and then report back to us, oh brave one (same to the jerk who posted the Mexican virus thing...say that in a Mexican bar, show us how tough you are.). |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Jonny on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:44pm on 07/27/05 at 20:30:59, hdido wrote:
Tough? How about you go fight your own battles on the OUCH/UK board instead of asking me to do it for you dickhead....now, whos the panty waste scumbag? on 07/12/05 at 22:50:34, hdido wrote:
Now you are boring me, goodnight Fuckhead ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:47pm goodnight, sweet prince! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Charlie on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:48pm We are being told every day what a scary world we live in. Really? What a surprise. The powers that be love to to scare us several times an hour on decreasingly interesting cable news while selling diet pills and air purifiers from Sharper Image. Keep us just enough off balance so they can sneak in some really disgusting legislation and things that they hope are confined to page 18 of the national papers. It works and has worked for decades. There is nothing like endless discussions of celebrity misdeeds and stuff in your kitchen cabinets that are so dangerous that you are probably already walking dead. There is a book called "Breaking News" and they sure have. I hate to tell you but we are considerably safer today than ever. It's just that it's on TV like never before. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/tv_horror.gif Charlie |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Jonny on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:49pm on 07/27/05 at 20:47:54, hdido wrote:
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:50pm I'd fight anyone, nationality's don't matter, whats the most that'll happen, I'd lose a little more skin. Bring it on babe ;;D I've been beat more times than I can count, whats one more ;;D Sean...................................... [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:51pm Pusy's ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by don on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:51pm Quote:
Yes it has. Next time make me a sandmoooch when I'm through. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by maffumatt on Jul 27th, 2005, 9:53pm on 07/26/05 at 17:19:02, Topical wrote:
http://www.lava.net/~higak/chain/other/fonda.htm http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050410/news_mz1e10caldwl.html http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/4/10/162712.shtml http://www.11thcavnam.com/draftdodgers/fonda1.html This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in HoLo Prison, the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO(F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton", the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a camera man, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about, her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban Me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. My normal weight is 170 lbs. We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals". When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. A message from all of the veterans. In April 1999, ABC aired a show called, "100 Years of Great Women." Among the women featured was Jane Fonda. That ignited a storm of protests from Vietnam veterans who found her actions during her well-publicized visit during July 1972 reprehensible. In July 1972, Fonda visited Vietnam, and was basically treated as an honored guest by the North Vietnamese government. She was shown in photos applauding the North Vietnamese Army’s efforts, and like Tokyo Rose before her, made several pro-North-Vietnamese propaganda broadcasts calling American military leaders "war criminals." Upon her return stateside, she also went on record saying that reports that American soldiers were being tortured in POW camps were grossly exaggerated. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 27th, 2005, 11:02pm Gee Don, you don't have your gender listed on your profile-some confusion about that? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 27th, 2005, 11:04pm on 07/27/05 at 23:02:05, hdido wrote:
I think he wears a speedo if thats any help ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 28th, 2005, 12:21am This is getting to be fun! [smiley=laugh.gif] ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 28th, 2005, 8:08am The truth about what Jane Fonda did. Some of it has been grossly exaggerated. http://snopes.com/military/fonda.asp |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by don on Jul 28th, 2005, 8:38am Quote:
Most people figure it out real quick. You know many women named "don" ?? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by vig on Jul 28th, 2005, 8:39am damn it's hard to make a judgment without truth... |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Topical on Jul 28th, 2005, 8:41am on 07/27/05 at 21:53:55, maffumatt wrote:
Thanks for the links. The first link and what you quoted was made up. She was never handed any SS#'s. Someone pointed the link to snopes earlier. What you linked to and quoted is in fact the urban legend. (That means it is false). An example from Snopes: "Driscoll said he never met Fonda, as the e-mail claims — and therefore, never spit on her and didn't suffer permanent double vision from a subsequent beating. "Totally false. It did not happen," Driscoll said. " This is the closest thing I could find to her calling servicemen "war criminals" over the air. In fact she was calling the Vietnamese government we were supporting criminals, and torturers. Here is what Fonda said: “Should we be fighting on the side of the people who are, who are murdering innocent people, should we be trying to defend a government in Saigon which is putting in jail tens of thousands of people into the tiger cages, beating them, torturing them . . . . And I don’t think . . . that we should be risking our lives or fighting to defend that kind of government.” http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18378 I can only find one person who says she called prisoners "war criminals". The person who alleges it had his arm broken a second time before meeting with Fonda. He blames Fonda for this and definitely has an axe to grind. I can't find any other prisoner she met with that can corroborate what this one POW says. I'd love to read another of the seven prisoners who were present repeating his allegations, or a quotation of her saying derrogatory statements about US servicemen. Instead she is verbally attacking Nixon and the So. Vietnamese governement. "David Hoffman, a former POW who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1971, said that he had been tortured because of Fonda's visit to Hanoi. "The torture resulted in a permanent injury that plagues me to this day," says Hoffman, who suffers a disfigured arm inflicted by brutal communist guards at the POW camp known as the "Zoo."" ..... "She called us criminals and murderers." If you want to believe his charges - go for it; reading everything so far, I don't. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Iceman on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:03am on 07/27/05 at 20:30:59, hdido wrote:
.......and the coroner's verdict on the death of John:-..........Suicide........... |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:07am on 07/27/05 at 20:30:59, hdido wrote:
Ah... The beautiful art of intelligent, enlightened discourse... How thoroughly refreshing. ::) |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by LeLimey on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:14am on 07/28/05 at 09:07:38, Frank_W wrote:
See Frank.. thats where you and I differ. I thought it was a crock of shit from a mental midget. But what do I know huh??? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:15am Oh.... Sorry, you must have missed the dripping sarcasm in my reply to HDodo. ::) ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Iceman on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:18am on 07/28/05 at 09:15:13, Frank_W wrote:
...she missed the sarcasm, but you missed the 'L' from his name. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:18am ROFLMAO!!!! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by LeLimey on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:29am now now boys.. ole doducks will only delete himself and come back again as YET ANOTHER HANDLE making even more work for DJ!! Surely you know his game by now? He's been playing it long enough?! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:39am "It was a dark and stormy night and I was somehow unmoved by the attempts at wit directed against me...all the perfume in Asia will not wash out the scent of LeLimey's tobacco stained hands and alcoholic breath"....by the way, your Limeyness, how many tents did it take to sew that thing you wore at the convention? Remember, we must save our resources for the coming war on poorly written attempts at sarcasm. To end this on a positive note, your arms are MADE for tatoos. Ta ta for now, better safe than sorry, always wear clean underwear and take your Wellies and brolly with you in case it rains. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by ghost62 on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:40am on 07/27/05 at 20:30:59, hdido wrote:
Well first of all dick weed alot braver than you will ever be ... I have actually told that to most of the Mexicans that I work with and A few at a MEXICAN bar that I go to and they thought it was funny........... UP YOURS!!!!!! Its a joke and only racist a-holes would call it racist. 2nd be careful who you call a jerk, people like me might take offense. (not saying I did ) 3rd learn who you pick your battles with some might think you are an arrogant ASS !!!!!!!! HAVE A NICE DAY ! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:44am Thank you ghost and please take a basic English composition class. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Iceman on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:46am on 07/28/05 at 09:39:35, hdido wrote:
.......the coronor was baffled, he had never had a case of someone committing suicide TWICE. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by ghost62 on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:47am Didnt realize we where bein graded on spelling arrogant ASS !!!! or grammer h-dildo, does the h stand for hope to find one? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by LeLimey on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:47am on 07/28/05 at 09:39:35, hdido wrote:
Awww... Johnboy I didn't think you cared!! I like your attempts at misquoting lady macbeth.. is that because you don't have the balls for a male part.. or is it because maybe you ARE a male part?!! (too polite to say which one of course!! *snort*) Just remember mate.. it takes a MAN to put me down.. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Peppermint on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:48am DD & REd... get out your sticks!!! [smiley=finger.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Iceman on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:52am ...and Charlie, get ya popcorn! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:57am Oh Limey, I do love you so for there is so much to love, Luv. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by LeLimey on Jul 28th, 2005, 10:03am "And it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man". There you go John. Shakespeare obviously met your great grandworm |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by ghost62 on Jul 28th, 2005, 10:06am on 07/28/05 at 09:57:56, hdido wrote:
Not only arrogant but ignorant too. dude that is just wrong. but of course I guess if one is not satisfied with oneself they usually do lash out at others. Apparently there is something lacking so you have to do that, to bad you are so inept that you have to stoop to that sort of jab. I truly pity you now. :'( |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by thomas on Jul 28th, 2005, 10:07am on 07/28/05 at 09:57:56, hdido wrote:
Dude, get a job or something. You are quite boring. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Iceman on Jul 28th, 2005, 10:13am ....are 5 years up yet? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Jonny on Jul 28th, 2005, 5:00pm on 07/28/05 at 09:39:35, hdido wrote:
You low life mother fucking scumbag...insulting me is one thing, but when you start insulting a lady of this family you have gone way to far. I can promise you that I will have you removed for good from this site just like OUCH/UK has banned you from their site...it dont get no lower than picking on women. Dont anyone here give this piece of shit a break, he is banned from every site he visits....now we know why! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by ghost62 on Jul 28th, 2005, 5:03pm Limey and I got him to run just after a few bouts with us... oh and definately cant forget thomas, and iceman I will never cut that punk a break EVER!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by broomhilda on Jul 28th, 2005, 5:12pm I just read this, hey fuckface don't mess with Helen or this family ever and I hope more than the door hits you in the ass on your way out. >:( >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by thomas on Jul 28th, 2005, 5:12pm Yep, I have no clue as to why this guy is even here, he definately does not give a rat's ass about helping any one, all he wants to do is stir shit up. People like him are pretty worthless to the human race. Most of them become reporters or lobbyists. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Charlie on Jul 28th, 2005, 7:31pm Noboby picks on Helen. Not good. Nor have we anything here to be proud of. Charlie http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/blind.gif |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 28th, 2005, 7:40pm What a jerk! How did I miss this? If I were you, uh, hdildo, or whatever your name is...I'd make myself scarce. >:( |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by maffumatt on Jul 28th, 2005, 7:54pm hdido you are a small man with a smaller mind. I have tried to avoid your post because personaly I think you are a fraud. I believe that you are a coward, a simpleton, and the incoherant rants that you seem to think show your seemingly shallow intellect are as boreing as watching grass grow. Be a man for once in your life and slither back where you came from. I pity your pathetic soul. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by LeLimey on Jul 28th, 2005, 8:00pm Don't forget everyone.. he picked on Mia first on page 15 of the no longer chronic thread on the meds and therapies board. Of course that was in ONE of his previous incarnations as PCMCCK or as Margi so rightly called him PRICK!! This lowlife has had more comebacks thank a MacDonaleds burger and is equally as unappetising and hard to digest. No doubt he will either delete himself again ro merely fade away and come back as yet another handle. Rest assured though. There are alot of us watching him. We will NOT let him play these little games without alerting you all and if you think he is a jerk here please read page 15 of the link. If that doesn't show you what manner of a specimen (This is NO "man" ) you are dealing with nothing will. http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=meds;action=display;num=1085591042 |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Jonny on Jul 28th, 2005, 8:18pm Thank you for the link, Helen. This from John back then. on 04/18/05 at 17:14:37, PCMCCK wrote:
The "Inspiration" is living a normal life again ass-hole!! Bottom sucking scum at its lowest! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by rextangle on Jul 28th, 2005, 8:54pm HEY H-DILDO, HAVE YOU MET CHUCKY YET? http://www.combatcentral.co.uk/Images/armoury/products/western%20arms/m92fs_low.jpg I haven't had the pleasure of meeting Helen, but when I went to Europe she told me that she would meet me anywhere in the UK... to me that means more than you can imagine... SO LEAVE HER THE FUCK ALONE YOU TURD JOCKEY!!! IF I EVER MEET YOU I'M GONNA SHOVE MY H SIZE TANK OF 02 UP YOUR ASS!!! CLEAR??? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Jackie on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:06pm on 07/28/05 at 17:00:47, Jonny wrote:
Neener, Neener, Neener..........hdido got it trouble!!!! ;;D What does 'hdido' translate to anyway? Nevermind....just figured it out..."Piece of Shit". Most Sincerely, Jacks 8) |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by maffumatt on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:09pm bad thing is that he is getting what he wants, attention. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by don on Jul 28th, 2005, 9:21pm Quote:
Its what a coward does best. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 28th, 2005, 11:31pm on 07/28/05 at 09:39:35, hdido wrote:
Dildo I'm gonna make you a life long promise, when and if we ever meet, I'm gonna put my fist so far into your face your gonna think I was scatchin the backside of your fuckin skull you piece of shit. Fuck him Helen, he has know idea who you are, your family to me and I love you because your you. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by rextangle on Jul 28th, 2005, 11:55pm PS: H-Deel d'ho Fuck you and your nearby POST OFFICE!!! [smiley=headbanger.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 29th, 2005, 12:10am Hey Rex, is that a gun in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? ;;D Call me what you will, but as representatives of an organization that has been set up to help CH sufferers, I doubt that any person of the Muslim faith, who has CH, will enter this site after reading the racist views posted-the same for those of Mexican ansestry and other Hispanics. Maybe those CH sufferers don't matter to you, I don't know, but just think of what you have done. Shame. For all of your tough guy rhetoric, what you really are doing is running around like Chicken Little screaming "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!" If any government here would adopt your ridiculous proposals, you will have destroyed democracy, giving the terrorists exactly the result that they want. I am sure that if any of them read this site they are laughing their asses off and congratulating each other on a job well done. The so-called "Christian" Right has an agenda not unlike that of Muslim extremists: establish a theocracy here and they have used terror tactics as well, like bombing abortion clinics, killing doctors who perfrom abortions, attempting to censor movies, books, TV, radio. Fortunately, I think that the vast majority of American people are aware of that and once our current group of leaders is out of office those nutters will fade away, like they did after Clinton was elected. What some of you have written here would have been considered a hate crime in the UK-inciting violence against a racial or eligious group-and you'd probably have been arrested by now. I pity you for your intolerance and given the poor quality of some English of the posts here, I wonder how many of you would be able to pass the citizen test given to immigrants (you'd have to brush up on your history as well). Pity, pity, pity but thanks for exposing your real feelings for people of color and different religious views-you are really Christian in your attitudes towards them. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Lizzie2 on Jul 29th, 2005, 12:26am John, You are the biggest fucking bastard and coward I've ever seen. You have NO right to say those things about Helen, Mia or ANY person. YOU don't deserve the time of day from any person here or at OUCH-UK. Your low-life insults and rants are NOT going to be tolerated by this crowd. I personally would like to see you make a PUBLIC apology to Helen, Mia, and everyone else you've offended by your extraordinarily immature and DISGUSTING comments and then delete your scumbag self the hell off of this site! I don't think you are benefitting from DJ's cluster site one bit, and we CERTAINLY are not benefitting from the shit you've been saying. Carrie |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Kevin_M on Jul 29th, 2005, 1:15am on 07/29/05 at 00:10:28, hdido wrote:
When was it you began to think your opinion mattered? Quote:
I've read your's here. Not so swell. Like a turd that won't flush kinda. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 29th, 2005, 3:04am Quote from Sean: "Fuck him Helen, he has know idea who you are, your family to me and I love you because your you." Sean, it should be written this way: "Fuck him, Helen, he has no idea who you are and you're family to me and I love you because you're you." It is a good thing that you love Helen because she is Helen, otherwise it would be very confusing if you loved her becaus she was someone else. To new RN Lizzie-Carrie-Lizzie2: first, congratulations upon getting your RN license; secondly, aside from allowing myself to slip down to the level of LeLimey after she called me a "mental midget" and various other things, if you re-read my posts, you won't find me using obscene language or calling people nasty names.You won't find me using "fuck" and the other variations of that word, which seems to be the respnse of many people on this site when they disagree with someone. I DO have the right to write my opinion, just as you do, though you won't find me responding to you by engaging in the use of obscenities. I think that you have to admit that many of the remarks made by others were racist. As I wrote in my last post, what will happen when a Muslim or Hispanic person, suffering from CH, looks at the site and sees those posts? I really doubt that they will want to post here and so we will have driven away sufferers from getting the help that they need. As you are a nurse, I would like to think that patient care is most important to you and that all patients, or sufferers of CH, should not be made to feel unwelcome because of their ethnic background or religious belefs. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by LeLimey on Jul 29th, 2005, 4:51am on 07/29/05 at 03:04:50, hdido wrote:
I know John.. that was REALLY bad wasn't it? Good job I didn't call you a wanker eh?! on 07/29/05 at 03:04:50, hdido wrote:
Oh John.. you really are holier than God.. wow! on 06/18/05 at 21:39:12, hdido wrote:
HYPOCRITE!! Hey Everyone.. Guess we know what the "H" is for now huh?!! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by AussieBrian on Jul 29th, 2005, 5:24am on 07/27/05 at 20:14:29, hdido wrote:
Not bad for someone who says he doesn't use bad words. The boy is to pitied, not scorned. He can't even remember the lies he's told. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Topical on Jul 29th, 2005, 6:06am Hdido, if you get kicked off this board, here's another "OUCH" board you can go to next. http://www.trollkingdom.net/forum/index.php You can thank the good people at Wiki for the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll Ethnic slurs - bad. Trolling - bad. Both mean the same thing - PM the mod. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 29th, 2005, 6:31am I admitted that I have slipped at times, but I believe that if you will compare my posts with many others, you will not see much obscenity nor name callling. Think what you will, I have not seen many people attempt to answer some of the serious issues raised here, by myself and others, concerning the apparent willingness to throw our constitution out the window in the name of protecting us....you can check it out. I do wish that, if people are going to curse on the board that they be a bit more creative; using the same words over and over makes them lose their effect (not that those words any longer have any as they have become a part of everyday language). I know that I asked many questions and raised many issues, but I really would like to know the opinions of others to my query about whether or not you think that a person of the Muslim faith or Hispanic background would really post here asking for help after reading the views expressed by so many members towards those groups of people. I don't think that they would feel very welcome and doubt that they would wrilte. Your opinions? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 29th, 2005, 6:41am Hdildo, you're still running your mouth? Do everyone a favor and shut your hole. Nobody gives a fuck what your opinion is; about anything. What a pathetic waste of skin you are. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 29th, 2005, 6:47am Gee Frank, it is the opinions of others that is being sought and I won't write any comments, etc.-just let the opinions flow. I'm sure that you have an opinion on the questlion. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by E-Double on Jul 29th, 2005, 7:01am on 07/29/05 at 06:41:34, Frank_W wrote:
I'm jumping into the fire....... I stay away from political and most threads that we all know will get heated, however that is just as wrong as anyone being an antagonist or cruel as John has been deemed......I am not a fan of any BS that is slung by anyone. Name calling as if we were in grade school and especially any form of bigotry is the main thing in life that I do not tolerate (other than conjoined twins...eek ;)) No offense to anyone & before someone calls me one of those "no backboned mushie types" as someone called me before, those who met me @ convention will know that I really don't give a shit!! I am as straight forward as one can get. What you see is what you get!! on 07/29/05 at 06:31:43, hdido wrote:
This post was well written and I am in total agreement with it regardless of who it came from. I will now jump out of the fire since my skin is starting to bubble ;) Be well! E 2 |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Topical on Jul 29th, 2005, 7:10am I read the rascist comments. You know what I did? Closed the IE window and didn't respond. You know what I would do? I would first contact DJ and let him decide what to do. I do not think either DJ or OUCH supports the comments. I also know that one of the leading CH researcher is Dr. Gupta in Dubai. His work rivals that of Dr. Goadsby (if not exceeds it) in the area of CH. I would hazard to guess that he is a muslim. I find that to be very ironic. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by AussieBrian on Jul 29th, 2005, 7:24am on 07/29/05 at 06:31:43, hdido wrote:
My opinion is that I'll see lots of both and if you take the time to flick back through your posts (as I just did) you might even agree with me. More importantly, why are you talking about all this stuff? You're quite obviously here to stir a hornets nest, raising questions and supplying no answers. One way to get your jollies, perhaps? Or do you have another agenda? Were you perhaps bullied at school and never able to get your own back? Are you a victim of sexual abuse by someone in a position of power over you? I can promise you that many, many people have been in this position, the feeling of absolute impotence against absolute forces - and then we're given the chance to hit back at the world without fear of retribution! Some resort to graffiti or vandalism, some set fire to buildings and bush-land, others become bullies or sexual abusers themselves. Better you stay here with us upsetting Jonny and Don than going on some drive-by shooting rampage, but really it may be time for a little introspection. We've helped lots of people here at CH.com who were never CHeads at all. Happy to do so. We'll help you, too, if that's what you'd like. Kindest regards and please stay in touch, Brian Down Under. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Topical on Jul 29th, 2005, 7:25am These were all written by Dr. Gupta who works in the United Arab Emirates. There are many more, this was just a five minute search. Intractable cluster headache and therapeutic stimulation of the hypothalamus: pathophysiological and management insights from a rare experiment Verapamil for cluster headache patients: does brain penetrability of therapeutic agents really not matter? Migraine following haemorrhage in brain stem cavernous angioma: pathophysiological considerations Neuroimaging in hemicrania continua: dissociation between technology and basic sciences? Painless Horner’s syndrome in cluster headache. Resolution of Chronic Cluster Headache after Resection of a Tentorial Meningioma: Case Report. Does the eye modulate the clinical expression of cluster headache? Vinod Gupta (17 May 2005) Visual function impairment in migraine: cerebral versus retinal deficit. Trigeminal autonomic cephalalgias: ‘noso-physiology’ or pathophysiology? J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry (22 February 2005 |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Kevin_M on Jul 29th, 2005, 7:52am Quote:
I agree. Controversial issues presented, one even twice because it failed to progress to your liking. Divide the sides, wait for strong views to be expressed, find fault apart from the original issue. Other agenda. Moving on now, you have successfully accomplished steps three and four of the troll-o-meter; the instilling of guilt, the attempt to garner sympathy by pointing fingers to divert from your disgusting comments. 'Tis old, simple, and never changes. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by thomas on Jul 29th, 2005, 7:54am on 07/29/05 at 07:10:44, Topical wrote:
You know what he should really do is go and find his hand. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by nani on Jul 29th, 2005, 7:55am on 07/29/05 at 07:01:17, E-Double wrote:
Well said Eric. :) Although I still think hdido's a jerk for messing with Helen, there are some things I agree with him about. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by E-Double on Jul 29th, 2005, 7:58am on 07/29/05 at 07:55:03, nani wrote:
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by thomas on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:17am I don't give one rat's ass what some one's religion or ethnicity is. But if you are in this country illegally, you need to be removed. Bottom line. If enforcing our imigration laws is viewed as being intolerant, then you are a bigger moron than you have already proven to be. It seems to me you are rather intolerant of any one professing to be a Christian. And rest assured the "racist" remarks made, were not made by any true Christians. You will only be happy when Anglo-types are erradicated from the Earth, Christianity is a long dead religion and Democracy is studied in ancient history as a failed government. Now go do your duty and strap one of those bombs on yourself and try to blow up a prison or something. I wonder where you recieved this education that you are so proud of, anyway? ::) Where is your outrage for the innocent people killed in New York, where is your outrage for the innocent people killed and maimed in G.B.? You were laughing with glee on both days, weren't you? Come on don't be shy, we all know how you feel anyway. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by don on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:17am Time for DJ to pull the plug on this idiot. Let him go suffer alone. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:20am on 07/29/05 at 08:17:56, don wrote:
Yep. Enough is enough. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by thomas on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:21am on 07/29/05 at 08:17:56, don wrote:
From what? Idiocy? Shrimp-dick syndrome? He sure doesn't have CH. He wouldn't be such a dick to other people that have it, if he did. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by AussieBrian on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:40am on 07/29/05 at 08:17:56, don wrote:
Suffer from what? He wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't a call for help. Give him some room, mate, before he resorts to other outlets more damaging to innocent parties. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by don on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:43am Quote:
Sure. Right next to the spare tire in my trunk. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Kevin_M on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:46am Homepage This site is devoted completely and exclusively to those that suffer from, and to the supporters of those who suffer from Cluster Headaches. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pattik on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:51am on 07/29/05 at 08:46:13, Kevin_M wrote:
Kevin, thank you for the reminder. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by ghost62 on Jul 29th, 2005, 9:05am on 07/29/05 at 06:31:43, hdido wrote:
Ok then shall we leave no group unturned But before That Langa, Nani being latino in origin, same as the hispanics, did you know you would never post here. Oh wait neither would I being a true american mutt. Multi Nationality and diveresed culturally. Scotch, Irish, English, Dutch, Danish, Italian, Swedish, Spanish, Cherokee, and African. 3 nephews with black fathers, 2 neices same,sister married to Black man. Another neice married a n Illeagal Imigrant from Mexico, they have a son and very happy together. My Dad and I helped him get legal before they got married, we didnt have to just getting married would have solved the problem, but we wanted him to respect himself and not let people think he married my neice to get legal. Ok does this qualify me yet? Tough hdildo get over yourself. FOUR RELIGIOUS TRUTHS 1. Muslims do not recognize Jews as God's chosen people. 2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah. 3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the Christian World. 4. Baptists do not recognize each other at Hooters. Now I hope this JOKE didn't offent to many but if it did, :P :-* ;;D ;) |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by AussieBrian on Jul 29th, 2005, 9:37am on 07/29/05 at 08:46:13, Kevin_M wrote:
A wonderful sentiment, too. What DJ has done is beyond words and I often wonder how many lives he's saved. He hasn't 'saved' mine, as such, but he's made it far more bearable. Equally, our dear old CH.com has had many a visitor who wasn't specifically a CHead or supporter, and we've been able to help them along their way to other places perhaps more relevant. Our friend Hdido is in just this situation, and it's better he vents his spleen here than gets caught up with some other place that may cause him further harm. He's not a CHer. That doesn't make him bad. So we help a bloke that needs it. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 29th, 2005, 9:58am Basic first rule of the Internet: "Don't Feed The Trolls." |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Racer1_NC on Jul 29th, 2005, 10:23am on 07/29/05 at 08:21:38, thomas wrote:
If that is true, it makes me wonder about a few others around here as well. B |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by thomas on Jul 29th, 2005, 10:30am on 07/29/05 at 10:23:15, Racer1_NC wrote:
You know the saying........... "If the shoe fits............." |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by don on Jul 29th, 2005, 11:42am Quote:
Did I miss something? Just where is it that he has asked for help. All i've seen him do is insult and ridicule sufferers and supporters. Then he got real tough and insulted a woman. I dont expend energy on helping losers who are not looking for help in the first place. FUCK HIM! Show him the door and toss him threw it. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by rextangle on Jul 29th, 2005, 12:23pm HDIDO WROTE: " Hey Rex, is that a gun in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? Call me what you will, but as representatives of an organization that has been set up to help CH sufferers, I doubt that any person of the Muslim faith, who has CH, will enter this site after reading the racist views posted-the same for those of Mexican ansestry and other Hispanics. Maybe those CH sufferers don't matter to you, I don't know, but just think of what you have done. Shame. " OK YOU STUPID DOUCHEBAG, DID I MAKE ONE RACIST POST THAT YOU CAN SHOW ME??? THE REASON I WENT OFF ON YOU IS FOR YOUR NASTY AND UNCALLED COMMENT TO HELEN, YOU WERE WAY OUT OF LINE... CAN YOU AT LEAST ADMIT THAT? WHY DON'T YOU POST A PICTURE OF YOU SO WE CAN ALL TAKE SOME CHEAP SHOTS? AND AGAIN: FUCK YOU AND YOUR LOCAL POST OFFICE!!! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by ghost62 on Jul 29th, 2005, 1:19pm Hey rex the racist one was aimed at me because of the mexican hacker joke I posted on another thread. He just tried to bunch it all together to see if some of it can stick ... well we didnt let it and I agree with you I wish he would post a pic of himself .... Sh*t he cant even admit what country he is from ... |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by thomas on Jul 29th, 2005, 1:28pm He is just a groupie, that has been kicked off every M.B. he's been on, and before that he was ridiculed right out of every social circle he came into contact with, due to his lunacy. I am guessing he is an assylum escapee. Or one that has just slipped through the cracks, kinda like Hitler. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by LeLimey on Jul 29th, 2005, 1:31pm He is from New York but lives in the Netherlands. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by thomas on Jul 29th, 2005, 1:35pm on 07/29/05 at 13:31:53, LeLimey wrote:
[smiley=ohjez.gif] That explains it! He's a pot head who rolled a joint in his return plane ticket home. So now he is stuck over there and can't get a job because he's not a citizen, and has been getting his fix by working the alleys and sex clubs. I guess I'd be cranky too, if my knees were scabbed over and my colon felt like a hot air balloon. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Lizzie2 on Jul 29th, 2005, 1:37pm And ya know...my post to him a few pages back was (if I recall correctly) the first time I've ever responded to someone with such language and animosity. I was definitely referring to how he has treated many of our closest friends here! My anger didn't have anything to do with the racism aspect - just so we are clear - I was mad because of what he said about Helen, Mia and others. John...I may be a nurse, but I'm also a person. And I don't tolerate things like you said about Helen in this thread and other people in other threads. It's just wrong, and it really is hypocritical to start slamming everyone here and then say some very nasty and horrific things about people here, yourself. That makes no sense at all. Carrie |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by ghost62 on Jul 29th, 2005, 1:53pm on 07/29/05 at 13:31:53, LeLimey wrote:
But he has Belgum listed as country. Yes they are neighbors but not the same. Quote:
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by rickyshot on Jul 29th, 2005, 6:20pm on 07/29/05 at 13:35:52, thomas wrote:
[smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif] ROTFLMAO I KNEW only someone in this crew would figure this shit out[smiley=crackup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Charlie on Jul 29th, 2005, 6:47pm We need some drugs here. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/crazy.gif Charlie |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Lizzie2 on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:31pm Ah well...what's fair is fair, so I'm posting this. Here's the PM I just received... on 07/29/05 at 20:23:52, hdido wrote:
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:53pm on 07/29/05 at 00:26:54, Lizzie2 wrote:
OK Carrie, fair is fair-just one question: do you swallow? |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by maffumatt on Jul 29th, 2005, 8:53pm Sounds like the closest thing to a love letter he can write. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Lizzie2 on Jul 29th, 2005, 9:06pm ::) Never would have even started if you hadn't started attacking people in a way that is considered beyond cruel and very hurtful. Whatever...your loss with the way you think. I'm done with this thread! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pubgirl on Jul 29th, 2005, 9:34pm Hey Helen hdido/PCMCK/John Troll told me I was a drunk who needed psychiatric help. I was pleased fit to bust as I considered it the very best compliment in the world that he hates me. You need to REALLY worry if a sad and sick little man as he is likes you so I would take his insults as pure manna. Wendy |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by unsolved1 on Jul 29th, 2005, 9:44pm Hdildo, seems like no one likes you. Instead of insulting anymore people ... why don't you: I know I wouldn't stick around if everyone hated me! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pubgirl on Jul 29th, 2005, 10:20pm What is genuinely so sad is that a person does stick around even if hated or vilified if it is the only attention they have. :'( |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 29th, 2005, 10:26pm Luv you Wendy...by the way, I'll be in Notts next week on business and will be at The Trip Tuesday at noon....anyone want to meet is welcome. I'm 6'2", black hair, 195lbs and will be wearing a black striped suit, white shirt and red tie (so the blood won't show in case I'm stabbed with a sharp pencil). See you! By the by, staying at the Holiday Inn downtown, but you don't know my real name, so no point in trying to find me there, unless you or Helen want to play Agatha Christie. TTFK! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 29th, 2005, 10:32pm Just go to the reception desk and say that you were to meet a man staying there thats about 4 1/2 feet tall, they'll know who you mean ;) http://www.trollshop.net/trolls/trollparty/trollwoman.jpg |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by unsolved1 on Jul 29th, 2005, 10:41pm LMAO Sean !! [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=thumb.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by maffumatt on Jul 29th, 2005, 10:48pm not even man enough to put your real name out there, wonder why? Could it be that you are ashamed of who you are? Like to harrass the ladies, must make you feel like a real man. A legend in your own mind. Poor sad little boy. I used to work with a guy that scared the hell out of me. Not because he was big or anything, but because he was a coward. One of the type that would rape your dog and kill your daughter. He was not right in the head, and John, your not right in the head. Common sense and reason is useless on the type of person you are. The internet isn't as anonymous as you seem to think it is, something to keep in mind. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by hdido on Jul 29th, 2005, 10:50pm LMAO too, Sean! Is that your nose or are you just glad to see unsolved? [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by unsolved1 on Jul 29th, 2005, 10:59pm http://www.geocities.com/un_solved2004/negative6.gif |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Mike_P on Jul 30th, 2005, 4:20am Quote:
Of course I do John, don't forget I have your name, address and telephone number. Great to see the stick you are getting, thoroughly deserved. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by pubgirl on Jul 30th, 2005, 4:26am Nearly p**sed myself that John asked Jonny to attack you on OUCH UK as well Mike. Does he think Jonny is his tame rottweiler or something? W |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by LeLimey on Jul 30th, 2005, 5:50am on 07/29/05 at 22:26:36, hdido wrote:
Oh John.. I'd meet you if you had the balls to meet me but you obviously don't. We don't do "downtown" here so if you mean the Holiday Inn on Maid Marian Way you should say so.. but that might be too scarily specific and I'm very dangerous aren't I?! Wendy I'm honoured beyond belief to be on the same list as you and Mike!! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by MOBster on Jul 30th, 2005, 9:08am It wouldn't be a pencil you got stabbed with if you went in the Trip wearing a suit ;;D so I sort of doubt that one ! Unless your a 'Gimp' that is ? MOB |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by deltadarlin on Jul 30th, 2005, 9:41am Pardon my ignorance here, but why not jsut ban his IP? That would solve the whole problem. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 30th, 2005, 11:21am on 07/29/05 at 22:26:36, hdido wrote:
It won't be much help if someone with the proper training decides to snap your neck like a carrot. Neckties make lovely garottes, too.... Have a nice day, azzhole. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by rextangle on Jul 30th, 2005, 12:57pm Yes Frank you're right... ;) Ok, I just realized that this turdjockey used to be PCMYK! NO WONDER! ::) So, he used to sport the german flag and now the belgian flag..... and I think I know why: The red yellow and black match the stains in his panties! Also HDILDO, let me know if you ever decide to go to Denver. It would be wonderful to have a "MEET AND BEAT", don't you think? But honestly, I'm sorry to hear that you're a dwarf with a Napoleonic complex, that is truly sad and I'm not gonna make fun of you about that... :-X But seriously, DO YOU REALLY HAVE CLUSTER HEADACHES? I don't think so. Anyway, fuck that troll... I have a joke for you guys... This Muslim Mexican walks into a bar.... [smiley=crackup.gif] JUST KIDDING!!! |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 30th, 2005, 1:19pm on 07/30/05 at 12:57:04, rextangle wrote:
Hey, HDildo, I guess that penis enlarger didn't work out so well, huh? You're still running around compensating by shooting your ignorant mouth off. Okay, a joke: Two Irishmen walk out of a bar..... (Hey, it could happen!) ;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Sean_C on Jul 30th, 2005, 2:44pm A man stumbles up to the only other patron in a bar and asks if he could buy him a drink. "Why of course," comes the reply. The first man then asks: "Where are you from?" "I'm from Ireland," replies the second man. The first man responds: "You don't say, I'm from Ireland too! Let's have another round to Ireland." "Of Course," replies the second man. Curious, the first man then asks: "Where in Ireland are you from?" "Dublin," comes the reply. "I can't believe it," says the first man. "I'm from Dublin too! Let's have another drink to Dublin." "Of course," replies the second man. Curiosity again strikes and the first man asks: "What school did you go to?" "Saint Mary's," replies the second man. "I graduated in '62." "This is unbelievable!" the first man says. "I went to Saint Mary's and I graduated in '62, too!" About that time in comes one of the regulars and sits down at the bar. "What's been going on?" he asks the bartender. "Nothing much," replies the bartender. "The O'Malley twins are drunk again." [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Frank_W on Jul 30th, 2005, 2:46pm LMAO!! [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=me&mb.gif] |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by alienspacebabe on Jul 30th, 2005, 3:23pm I must admit that this is entertaining reading...... and I will resist changing hdido into dildo... oops, my bad |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Jonny on Jul 30th, 2005, 3:35pm You racist bastards!!!! >:( Why do blacks put their garbage in clear bags? So puerto ricans can window shop! ..........................;;D |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by rickyshot on Jul 30th, 2005, 4:19pm on 07/30/05 at 15:35:23, Jonny wrote:
[smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=bigguns.gif]ROTFLMAO Wait till I tell this to my PR friend on Monday. Jonny you are a peckerwood. HAHAHAHAHAHAHa |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Ree on Jul 30th, 2005, 5:21pm on 07/30/05 at 05:50:57, LeLimey wrote:
Helen don't you dare go to meet him... He is probably a suicide bomber....why else would he be so taken by comments about certain cultures on this thread. You be safe... love ree |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by rickyshot on Jul 30th, 2005, 5:24pm OK Jonny So I don't miss anybody. Why do Jewish girls wear two-piece bathing suits. Musn't mix the meat with the milk. Why are Black men like Christmas trees. They both have colored balls. What do you call a fast Chinese on a bike. Schwing What do you call an invisible Paki a fart. ducking. Don't bother to send your cards or letters people. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by cootie on Aug 1st, 2005, 12:02am this is as fun as anal gland retention....scootin coot Pam |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by DonnaHar on Aug 1st, 2005, 6:41am And I clicked on this because I thought it was about Fonda. There sit my videos.....a day late and I didn't even get to see them AND now owe a late fee, but this is actually probably more entertaining, whether I'm enjoying it or in shock. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by Topical on Aug 1st, 2005, 7:11am Anyone catch her on 60 minutes last night? It was either listen to her or watch the Simpsons. I went with The Simpsons. |
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Title: Re: Fondas up to her ol' shit again Post by sassy_lady on Aug 4th, 2005, 9:10pm I Did not read all of this post, yet need to reply!! MY BROTHER is in the army & he is over there now for the 2nd time, 1st time for a year, came home for 3 months!! & went back, for another 1 1/2, He will be coming home some time after the new year Can't say just when, not aloud for safety reason... From A DAMN GOOD MAN'S & SOLDIER'S MOUTH, " I'D RATHER BE THERE FIGHTING FOR OUR FAMILY'S SAFETY THEN HERE IN OUR BACK YARD!!" EVERY WEEK MY 2 SISTERS, MOTHER, DAD IN OHIO, OTHER BROTHER, & I, TAKE TURNS ON OUR WEEKS, WE MAIL BOXES OF ALL KINDS OF STUFF TO AS MANY TROOPS AS WE CAN, MY BROTHERS UNIT TRAVELS AROUND ALOT, & MY BROTHER PASSES OUT THE STUFF TO THE TROOPS, THE TROOPS SENDS US PATCHES, BRACLETS & OTHER STUFF THAT WE PASS OUT TO FAMILYS HERE TO HELP SUPPORT THEM.. I MAY AGREE WITH SOME & MAY DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THE REASONS OUR FAMILYS ARE OVER THERE, BUT THAT DON'T MATTER TO ME AT THIS POINT, ALL THAT MATTER TO ME IS THAT MY BROTHER BELEIVES IN WHAT HE IS DONE, & I SUPPORT HIM 110%.. THE PRESS DON'T SHOW THE GOOD GOING ON OVER THERE, ALL THEY SHOW IS THE BAD. I HEAR THE GOOD & THE GOOD CHANGES & HER HOW HAPPY THE PEOPLE ARE OVER THERE.. I LOVE MY COUNTRY, I LOVE MY FREEDOM, & I LOVE ALL LIFE!! & I LOVE MY OPINON & EVERYONE ELES.. EVEN IF I DON'T AGREE!! PFDAN'S TO EVERYONE!! LOL JOLENE |
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