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(Message started by: AussieBrian on Jul 11th, 2005, 8:56pm)

Title: I have a little list...
Post by AussieBrian on Jul 11th, 2005, 8:56pm
Pills, potions and poisons. Treatments, therapies and tricks of trade.

What we've tried over the years could make for interesting reading and I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours.

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by ClusterChuck on Jul 11th, 2005, 9:24pm

on 07/11/05 at 20:56:00, AussieBrian wrote:
I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours.

Wait a minute, my zipper is stuck ... Give me a minute, and I'll show you ...

Chuck

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by Donna_D. on Jul 11th, 2005, 9:31pm

on 07/11/05 at 21:24:16, ClusterChuck wrote:
Wait a minute, my zipper is stuck ... Give me a minute, and I'll show you ...

Chuck



Probably stuck on a bandaid if I remember correctly....


or was it superglue?



DD

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by burnt-toast on Jul 11th, 2005, 9:31pm
Extra Strength Excedrin - 1 - 2 dozen a day - Don't know how I survived that stupidity.

Prescription Pain Killers - like candy - Don't know how I survived that stupidity either.

Cinnamon - The real bark kind - soaked the bark in boiling water and left it brew for days into a strong sweet liquid - would pour some into a mug, heat it and drink it when attacks occurred.  At one point I swore it worked but my dilusions didn't last long - haven't used it in years.  

Currently snortin' Anbesol (actually applying with q-tip) - again I'm at the I swear it works stage - Haven't hit the "it was just another dilusion stage" yet.

Modified to include

Lithium
Verapamil
Cafertot
Variety of Steroids
Melatonin
Imitrex
O2
Zomig

Didn't know you wanted the more legitimate stuff.


Tom    

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by AussieBrian on Jul 11th, 2005, 9:39pm
Ok, from the top............

Ice packs
Hot packs
Ice and hot packs alternately
Prescribed glasses
Teeth pulled
Aspirin
Paracetamol
Codiene
Paracetamol with codiene
Morphine (on prescription, thank you)
Valium
Caffergot and it's mate
Immegran tabs
Immegran shots
Massage therapy
Very serious opiate shots but the name escapes me
Hypnosis
Denial
Psychiatric advice
Pacing, jogging, running, swimming
Serial head banging
Steam baths
Horrible shots in the back of my neck to "break the ganglion"
Coffee, tea, booze

Haven't done the seance thing yet, but will advise.

Not that any of it has worked, either, but it's been an adventure.


Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by E-Double on Jul 11th, 2005, 9:45pm
Some tricks that I used to use and sometimes still do are:
*Wrapping a bandana tightly around my skull (be careful)
*Filling a sink with scaulding water creating a steam bath and placing my head over it with a towel covering
it.
*Going from Steam to Frigid shower.
*Standing infront of A/C
*Icepacks or frozen veggies on the back of the neck or eye
*Tons of STRONG coffee.

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by vig on Jul 11th, 2005, 9:46pm
I will say it has been one h311 of an adventure....
no doubt

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by Charlie on Jul 12th, 2005, 1:48am
Cafergot and Inderal. Some success with the latter. Cafergot was useless. Sitting in the dark with an open window...in winter even. Felt good, didn't work. Absolute silence. Felt good too.

The technique I post here did the trick more than 75% of the time. At least it shortened them and now and then killed them very fast. What a deal that was.....

Charlie

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by Topical on Jul 12th, 2005, 4:47am
Advil gelcaps for normal headaches work great.

These are now in my med chest:
Verapamil
O2
Cafergot

These didn't work for CH:
Advil gelcaps
Tylenol
Aspirin
Lithium
Lidocaine
Imitrix (nasal)
Maxalt

Distractors I've tried:
Head beating(not recommended)
Cold shower
Soaked hair with fan blowing
Pinch nerve center
Massage
Excercise
Hyperventilation
Digging toenails into soles of feet
Sex
Ice cubes or frozen dinner (preferably Swanson) :)
A leg cramp I got accidentally had during an attack worked best.

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by sandie99 on Jul 12th, 2005, 6:12am
Impressive lists, guys!

To add some of my own:

magnesium (actually abourted 3 attacks in the beginning & I got horrible attacks when I lived few days without it)

ice cream (aborted attack once - ch didn't return that day)

anadin extra (actually helped with shadows)



Naturally there are lots of meds which I have tried, but since they have been mentioned already I didn't want to mention them again.

Sanna

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by AussieBrian on Jul 12th, 2005, 6:46am
She Who Must Be Obeyed has just returned from work, taken her rightful place within our household, and is currently calling from the kitchen that I must add.......

Prednisone

Nurofen

Lavender oil

O2 (of course, thanks Sandie)

Tiger balm (kip4 to kip9 within 15 seconds)

Milo - a chocolate drink - while confined to protect me from myself.

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by LadyElaine on Jul 12th, 2005, 9:27am
Had teeth pulled out (DON'T DO THAT) Don't work
Had shock treatment (Don't do that either) Didn't work
Hot towels (made it worse)
Cold towles
ice
cold shower
hung head off bed think if blood rushed to my head it would stop (did not work)
Had Buddy put my head between his hands and mash as hard as he could. Don't do that it worries the supporter !
Hit head on padio floor (Don't do that either) Broke my nose and had a few stiches.
meds
Verrapamil
Norotten (sp)
Zomig
Melatonin
Imitrex shots
Hot sause
Riding in a car hanging head out the window.
Nose in air condition vent
Cold shower
Sitting in the snow.
The hardest thing I did was I gave my self a shot of novacain up under my eyes pain big time( DON'T DO IT)
It worked but my whole face felt like I had a stroke for almost a day.
The list goes on
The things we do !




Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by thomas on Jul 12th, 2005, 9:43am
Sudafed
Asprin
Hot showers
Cold showers
Pressing my eye into my head with the palm of my hand
Cold packs
Hot packs
Afrin
4way
Norgesic Forte
Phirenol
Hot shower while banging head against cold shower tile
Strangulation
Pain transferance techniques
Imitrex
Paxil
More imitrex
Pills, shots, nasal sprays all imitrex
Verapamil
Excedrin Migraine.
Prednisone
Sansert
More imitrex
DHE IV treatment
Oxygen
Hmmm more trex
Amerge
Melatonin (Hallelujah)
Magnesium
Axert
Prozac
zomig
shrooms

Things in bold, I had some mearsurable success with.


Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by seasonalboomer on Jul 12th, 2005, 9:50am

Just a few of my prouder moments:
-Placing face into snow drifts while stumbling drunk
-Trying to puke because it makes my eyes
-Jumping into very cold pool in winter
-Face in air conditioning vent
-Looking up into bright lights
-Scalding hot water in sink with towel over it (duplicate from e-double)
-Snorting Dr. Bronner's Peppermint Soap
-Steam room at health club (made worse - very embarassing)
-Drinking MORE alcohol
-Holding my breath

Many would find these lists to be sad and pitiful. Only clusterheads can see the little glints of humor that many of these crazy experiences bring when looking back upon them. (At least I do, anyway.) This forum has allowed me to actually tell some of the crazier ones not only here but to people that know me and laugh.


Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by Margi on Jul 12th, 2005, 9:54am
Mike's tried so much, too.

In the early days before we knew what we were dealing with:

Aspirin by the tonne
Tylenol Extra Strength
Advil Gel Caps
Dristan Nasal Spray (decongestant that is addictive and makes things WAY worse)
Antibiotic after antibiotic for "sinus infection"  ::)
Feverfew
MRI's and CT scans
Sinus draining at the hospital
Teeth extraction
Hot mustard powder up the nose (do NOT try this at home)
Heat (only once.  never again)
Massage
Red Wine (bad idea.  very bad)
Pot (exTREMELY bad idea.  only once.)
Toradol
Sansert
Demerol
Imitrex pills

then we found this place:
welder's oxygen (a Godsend!)
water water water (worked very well a couple times, now, not so much)
ice (THANK YOU!!)
benadryl
gravol
neo-citran
learning to calm down (best defense so far)
shrooms (stopped working for him but did change his remission pattern for awhile)
1 month after, he went to a neuro for the first time ever and was prescribed:
prednisone
imitrex spray
verapamil
magnesium
lithium
now his cycles are more than 6 months in duration (I'm convinced, because of these meds).


Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by nani on Jul 12th, 2005, 10:13am
The ones I remember:
Fiorinol
Midrin
Excedrin Migraine
All the OTC NSAIDS
Having root canals
Having teeth pulled
Accupressure
Accupuncture
Chiropractics
massage therapy
head banging
trying to push my eye back into my head
temple pressure
ice
heat (definitely NOT for me)
natural migraine "remedies"
Toradol
Vicodin
Percodan
oxygen (aborts about 75% for me)
Morphine (at ERs)
Neurontin
Verapamil
lithium
melatonin
kudzu (something that finally makes a difference for me!)

...and some bizarre treatments that people recommend.

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by Gator on Jul 12th, 2005, 10:45am
Alone and in various combinations:


Tylenol...........Tylenol Allergy Sinus......Pseudofed
Excedrin.........Aspirin.........................Benedryl
Ibuprofen.......Naproxen.....................Coffee
Demerol..........Percocet.....................Relpax
Oxycontin.......Fioricet.......................Tylenol 3 w/Codeine
Flexeril...........Skelaxin......................Tylenol PM
Temazepam....Halcion........................Sonata                        
Verapamil.......Lithium........................Tegretol
Trileptal.........Topomax......................Indomethacin
Prednisone.....Melatonin.....................Baclofen
Nortriptyline...Oxygen........................Zomig NS
Imitrex NS......Imitrex Injections..........Imitrex Tabs
Depakote.......Heat...........................Ice                              
Coca Cola......Occipital Nerve Block......Reflexology
Massage........Direct Pressure.............Exercise

Still no working preventative.  Oxygen, Zomig NS, Imitrex Injections, and to a lesser extent Imitrex NS, have worked as abortives.


Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by BobG on Jul 12th, 2005, 5:00pm
Asprin - didn't help
Sansert
Ice pack

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by unsolved1 on Jul 12th, 2005, 5:29pm
My little list includes:

Imitrex tabs, NS, and injections
Frovatriptan
Maxalt
O2
Verapamil
Meletonin
Lithium
Topamax
Neurontin
Keppra
Lamictal
Depakote
Zyprexa
Indomethacin
Sansert
Methergine
Remeron
Prednisone
Prednisolone
Medrol Dose Paks
Solu Medrol (IM and IV)
Decadron
Dex Packs
Solu Cortez (IV)
Droperidol & Benadryl (IV)
DHE 45 (IM and IV)
Thorazine
Clomid (experimental)
Cell Cept (experimental)


Nerve blocks:

Greater Occiptal block
Sphenopalatine block
Facet block


Histamine Desensitization  ;)

RFG (Radio Frequency Generator)

Bilateral Occipital nerve stimulator 7 day trial


Narcotics

Stadol IV @ 1-3 mg; Stadol NS 2.5ML; Stadol IM 2mg
Demerol IV @ 50 - 75 mg
Morphine IV @ 7 mg
Actiq Lollipop @ 200 mg & 600mg
Valium 10 mg
Loritab 5mg, 7.5mg, and 10mg tablets
Methadone 10 mg

Worst medicines for me:
Topamax & Keppra

The rest I can't remember !!  [smiley=huh.gif]


Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by notseinfeld on Jul 12th, 2005, 6:02pm
Divining Rods
Exorcism
Expletives
Prayer Group
'Deals'
Meditation
Yoga
Acupuncture (the 6" Nail kind)
Prednisone
Verapamil
Occipital Nerve Block (ONB)
Melatonin
Xanax
All the Triptans

Impressive Lists folks!

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by E-Double on Jul 12th, 2005, 7:47pm
I forgot to add.....

When I first ccame to this site prior to meds I read about someone sniffing amonia.....So I did.....

DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!!


also best defense has been the helmet!
http://ed3.photosite.com/~photos/tn/272_348.ts1105810524921.jpg

Title: Re: I have a little list...Imitre
Post by JDH on Jul 12th, 2005, 8:14pm
In no particular order:
'shrooms (aka the beast slayer)
O2 (I was doing back flips the 1st time it worked!)
Imitrex injection & ns
Prednisone
Civamide (that's some rough stuff)
Lithium
Verapamil
Caffergot
Feverfew
Magnesium
Melatonin
Stadol ns (probably THE nastiest thing I've tried)
Fioricet w/codeine
Percodan
Percocet
Name an OTC drug and I've tried it
Hot & cold showers
Holding my head out of the car window like a friggin' dog
Ice, ice, and more ice!!!
Alcohol (it took me a long time to figure out that it was a big time trigger...duh me, I actually used to try to out drink the beast)
Weed
Grrrrrrrrrrr!!! and if the prick doesn't stop messing with me I guess I'll be trying my new Zomig script that I had filled last week >:(

Jim




Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by Topical on Jul 12th, 2005, 8:18pm

on 07/12/05 at 18:02:50, notseinfeld wrote:
Divining Rods
Exorcism
Expletives
Prayer Group
'Deals'
Meditation
Yoga
Acupuncture (the 6" Nail kind)
Prednisone
Verapamil
Occipital Nerve Block (ONB)
Melatonin
Xanax
All the Triptans

Impressive Lists folks!


What, no Voodoo?  [smiley=laugh.gif]

I was curious about meditation. I see those guys walking of fire and glass and wonder if the control of pain would be easier.

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by nani on Jul 12th, 2005, 11:05pm

on 07/12/05 at 09:50:06, seasonalboomer wrote:
-Placing face into snow drifts while stumbling drunk


I was thinking about that story the other day while getting hit. (I forgot it was you, LOL) I would've given someone $1000.00 to point me in the direction of a snowdrift that day.  ::)
edited to add: I was having a hot flash and getting hit at the same time.

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by hdido on Jul 12th, 2005, 11:10pm
Dilaudid and Actiq work for me; going back on Lamictal-I'm chronic, had a one year remission after being on Lamictal for 6 months, stayed on L for about 6 months after the CH returned, no results/after 3 1/2 years of being chronic again, my neuro suggested giving the Lamictal a try again....not sure if it was a factor in the remission, but since it had no adverse side effects, willing to give it a shot again.  Sex also helps, but I don't get enough.

Title: Re: I have a little list..
Post by notseinfeld on Jul 12th, 2005, 11:28pm
Knew I was missing one and TOPICAL provided the answer: Voodoo!

Now, where'd I put that Bill Clinton doll......

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Jul 13th, 2005, 12:30am
Its no wonder the pharmaceutical companies are doing so well with us lot around.

Havn't tried the hard meds but have used off the shelf pain killers by the bucket load that proved about as usefull as a plane without wings.

My favourite is my faithfull TENS machine to hit the ganglion lump.
Next time I get hit with the CH I am definately going for the 02.

But I reckon Aussie Brian has the best fix that he isn't letting on about, take a look at the place he has to put up with having to live.


http://www.ozoutback.com.au/postcards/postcards_forms/tsi_dauan_boigu/

Kind Regards
Barry

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by Topical on Jul 13th, 2005, 12:58am
Was this one of the things Barry?
"New Blue Emu Oil"
http://www.tvproducts4less.com/emu-oil.html

I was getting some meds and saw it worked for headaches. Tempting, but I put it back.

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Jul 13th, 2005, 1:52am
You never know!

Throw away the contents, fill the container with concrete and wait untill set and crack yourself on the head as hard and as long as you wish.

No sure fix but anything is worth a try ONCE.

Kind Regards
Barry

Title: Re: I have a little list..
Post by sandie99 on Jul 13th, 2005, 3:13am

on 07/12/05 at 23:28:50, notseinfeld wrote:
Knew I was missing one and TOPICAL provided the answer: Voodoo!

Now, where'd I put that Bill Clinton doll......

[smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by StressFree on Jul 13th, 2005, 3:23pm
In order, somewhat useful things in bold - very useful with smiley:
Tempromandibular Joint Treatments
TENS electrical stimulation (helped to relax muscles)
Muscle relaxants (helped for a short time)
Mouth Piece
All Wisdom Teeth Pulled
Vision Checked
Told to get allergy screening (never did)
Variety of pain pills (quit working after tollerance)
Variety of street drugs
Alcohol (definately made things worse)
All manner of Over the Counter stuff
After seeing headache specialist:
Verapamil (broke chronic cycle, didn't help next cycle, now this cycle helped a lot)  :)
Prednisone (would get smiley, but nasty drug)
Caffergot PB (PB=pentobarbital)
Maxalt (so far better than caffergot) :)
Meprobamate (anti-anxiety agent that seemed to ward off cluster cycles)
Stadol NS (not a pleasant pain drug, but somewhat effective)
Oxygen (seemed to cause multiple-attacks)
Imitrex (definately caused mucltiple-attacks)
Lidocaine in nose (multiple attacks)
Cold packs to back of head and neck (sometimes helps)
Running head under cold water
Head in Freezer, breathing cold air
Massage of temples, jaw, and neck (sometimes helps)
Much Prayer  :)

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by seasonalboomer on Jul 13th, 2005, 3:44pm

on 07/13/05 at 15:23:05, StressFree wrote:
In order, somewhat useful things in bold - very useful with smiley:
Tempromandibular Joint Treatments
TENS electrical stimulation (helped to relax muscles)
Muscle relaxants (helped for a short time)
Mouth Piece
All Wisdom Teeth Pulled
Vision Checked
Told to get allergy screening (never did)
Variety of pain pills (quit working after tollerance)
Variety of street drugs
Alcohol (definately made things worse)
All manner of Over the Counter stuff
After seeing headache specialist:
Verapamil (broke chronic cycle, didn't help next cycle, now this cycle helped a lot)  :)
Prednisone (would get smiley, but nasty drug)
Caffergot PB (PB=pentobarbital)
Maxalt (so far better than caffergot) :)
Meprobamate (anti-anxiety agent that seemed to ward off cluster cycles)
Stadol NS (not a pleasant pain drug, but somewhat effective)
Oxygen (seemed to cause multiple-attacks)
Imitrex (definately caused mucltiple-attacks)
Lidocaine in nose (multiple attacks)
Cold packs to back of head and neck (sometimes helps)
Running head under cold water
Head in Freezer, breathing cold air
Massage of temples, jaw, and neck (sometimes helps)
Much Prayer  :)


great list! I forget about much prayer. Except I'm not sure if pleading counts. I think during my last few cycles, in the throws, my plea was, "God, if you're going to make my fucking head explode during one of these fuckers, do it now."

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by AussieBrian on Jul 15th, 2005, 11:46pm
The list so far, and this is just what we've taken!  More later about what we've tried..........

Excedrin,  Cinnamon,  Anbesol,   Lithium,  Verapomil,  Cafergot,  Melatonin,  Immitrex,  O2,  Zomig,  Aspirin,  Paracetamol,  codiene,  Morphine,  Valium,  Immegran,  Inderal,  Advil, Tylanol,  Lidocaine,  Imitrix,  Maxalt,  magnesium,  Anadin,  Prednisone,  Neurofen,  Lavender oil,  Noroton,  Zomig,  Sudafed,  Hotsauce (nasally),  Afrin,  4Way,  Norgesic forte,  Phiranol,  paxil,  sansert,  DHE IV,  Amerge,  Axert,  shrooms,   Dristan nasal,  Prozac,  antibiotics,  feverfew,  hot mustard (nasal),  red wine,  pot,  Toradil,  Demeril,  welder's O2,  water, ice,  Gravol,  neo-citran,  Fiorinal,  Midrin,  accupuncture,  Vicodin,  Percodan,  Neurontin,  kudzu,  Ibuprofen,  Oxycentin,  Flexeril,  Temazepam,  Verapamil,  Trilyptal,  Nortrypalene,   Depahot,  Coca cola,  Naproxem,  Percoset,  Fioricet,  Scelaxin,  Topomax,  pseudofed,  Benadryl,  coffee,  street drugs,  relpax,  sonata,  Tegratol,  Indomethacin,  Balcofen,  methadone,  Xanax,  Civamide,  Frovatriptan,  Keppra,  Lamictal,  Zyprexa,  Methergine,  Remeron,  Prednisolone,  tea,  Medrol,  Solu medrol,  Decadron,  Dex packs,  Solu cortez IV,  Droperidol,  Thorozene,  Clomid,  Cell cept,  Stadol,  Actiq lollipop,  Loritab,  alcohol,  Meprobonate,  Ultram,  Tegratol,  valporic acid,  Lexapro,  Reglan,  Amitriptriptalye,  Aderall,  Dilantin,  methysergide,  Elival,  Vicodin,  Corgard,  Ritalin.

Anyone else feeling a little like a lab rat?

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by Kiwiinoz58 on Jul 17th, 2005, 8:54pm
Wow guys, what haven't you tried in the way of meds??
Before being diagnosed corrrectly I tried the usual gambit of sinus meds etc. Now on Verap, Melatonin & Imigran inj only. Two others I tried were Pethedine inj & Mersyndol Forte to no avail. A hot water bottle on my temple sometimes convinces me it's helping [smiley=laugh.gif]
but to be honest the frustration and pain causes me to spend a lot of time crying like a bloody big kid!!
PF days are like miracles, so wishing them to all of you.
Cheeers, Jacqs

Title: Re: I have a little list...
Post by AussieBrian on Jul 18th, 2005, 8:14am

on 07/17/05 at 20:54:39, Kiwiinoz58 wrote:
Wow guys, what haven't you tried in the way of meds??

Thanks for that, mate.  Bit of a reality check there.

Truth is that this is but a taste of it and there's plenty of other drugs, poisons and invasive measures missing from the little list.

I've also done some serious compilation on the list of other 'therapies' we've variously tried over time and the fact is, it's bloody scary.  Medieaval.  Witchcraft, hocus pocus and much of it outright dangerous!

My concern is that some new-chum sufferer finds this place, stumbles upon what we've tried in the past, and somehow thinks they must go through all this themselves looking for their own special cure.  (Snorting hot mustard powder???)

I think this a fine time to bid farewell to this thread before it does more harm than good.

R.I.P.




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