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(Message started by: Sean_C on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:12pm)

Title: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Sean_C on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:12pm

I have to ask an honest opinion from someone who's biased and can answer this because its buggin' me.

One of my employees gave his notice today because he does not have health insurance. He's 44, single and lives in the basement of his sisters house. His weekly payckeck is approximately $1,800.00 dollars a week, or $1,200.00 take home give or take.

I told him that I cannot afford to give him health insurance and $1,800.00 dollars a week unfortunately, but I might be able to get him insurance for a cheaper rate than he could himself through the company but I would have to deduct it out of his check, instead he put his nose up and said and and I quote "fuck that"

Sooooooooooooo to make a long story short I didn't punch him in the face I just said "I'm sorry I couldn't help you, if I could I would"

My question is should I break his face..................cuz I think it would make me feel better, apparently I'm a not a very nice person either way ;) And if he worked for you what would you do, and how would you handle it?

Tanks,

Sean...............................................

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by nani on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:23pm

If you break his face, you're gonna have to pay the dr bill. The new company that my hubby works for doesn't have enough people to get a group plan. So the owner gets a little bit of a break offering a local individual plan. Employees can opt to pay for their own insurance. It would be ideal if all employers could offer and pay for health insurance, but, let's be real....the cost is ridiculous!! Don't sweat it, Seannie....you're doing the best that you can. And that guys made enough to pay for his own. His loss, I think. :-*

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by E-Double on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:27pm

He's a dumbass!!!!!!!!
1200 a week is 62400 after taxes.
What a schmuck considering that he lives in sisters basement and doubt he pays much if anything in rent.
Even if buying his own insurance at a high rate he would still be making a decent living for a single man mooching off sister.

Antagonize the moron, have him assault you in front of witnesses and then knock him out.

Sue him for all he has and enjoy the fact that he will be a pauper with medical bills that he could have had taken care of if he wasn't a dipshit!

Fuck that...whatta a dick!

Good riddence

E

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Sean_C on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:30pm

Thats the way I felt to Nan, if I get it for him I have to get it for all and some of the guys spouces already have it, no what I mean, so I can't. I honestly was pissed, how much money should laborers get? I could hire a brazilian who'll never complain and work for food and be happy. Why is it that with some people they just always want and want and want and it ends up sour like this, it kills me, I'm the most liberal boss alive I swear, nothings ever an issue with me, maybe thats my problem I don't know I'm confused.

Sean..............................

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Redd715 on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:31pm

Sheesh and I thought I had it bad making only 17k a year.....damn I have my own apartment on a third of what that guy makes....

Sean...hire me and I'll take a salary of 50k and the other 10k keep for the insurance. Deal?

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Sean_C on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:33pm

LOLOLOL Eric, I wanted to believe me, but you know the way it is..... ;;D

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Sean_C on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:37pm

on 06/24/05 at 19:31:50, Redd715 wrote:

Sean...hire me and I'll take a salary of 50k and the other 10k keep for the insurance. Deal?

I wish you lived closer Redd, I could use some stength in the company ;;D One of the benny's is that we have lots of o2 when needed too for those special employees;;D

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by maffumatt on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:37pm

You can make some people happy some of the time but you cant make everyone happy all the time. Fire him for insuborination, if my employee told me that he would be walking to the the gate with his last paycheck.

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Redd715 on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:40pm

on 06/24/05 at 19:37:12, Sean_C wrote:

I wish you lived closer Redd, I could use some stength in the company ;;D One of the benny's is that we have lots of o2 when needed too for those special employees;;D

Unfortunately, afte all the BS folks went threw to get me a chance to try O2, it will kill a shadow but don't touch the beast. :-/

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Sean_C on Jun 24^th, 2005, 7:43pm

I feel better already guys, thanks for the ear :-* That shit just fucks with my head, I think I think to much sometimes ;;D

Cheers guys [smiley=me&mb.gif]

Sean..................................

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by don on Jun 24^th, 2005, 8:13pm

This guy think he works for the "T"? What a fucking moron.

Gave his notice? You wont even notice he's gone. Plenty of guys out there looking for work.

I'd take his job but you'd probably have some ridiculous rule like I'd have to show up every day. On time. Fuck that.

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Sean_C on Jun 24^th, 2005, 8:55pm

on 06/24/05 at 20:13:04, don wrote:

ROTFLMMFAO your never gonna give up that power position you have to push on a goon spoon LMAO, it sucks bud believe me ;;D But if you insist your hired ;;D

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Charlie on Jun 24^th, 2005, 10:01pm

In almost of of civilized society, the part of the question that involves medical insurance would never come up.

Charlie

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by notseinfeld on Jun 24^th, 2005, 10:09pm

Contrary to popular belief you do not have a 'right' to healtcare in this country. Nor to a job for that matter.

This guy clearly mismanages his money or is putting it up his nose. Good riddance, IMO.

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by cazman on Jun 24^th, 2005, 11:25pm

$1,800 a week ill take thge job fire him that much money you can afford to pay it your self

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by marty on Jun 25^th, 2005, 6:24am

Hi Sean_C

With $85,000.00 a year (give or take), this guy most likely made a serious mistake by giving his notice unless he already have another job lined up.

If he does not, I have a feeling that he is not going to go through with it and if he does, he will have to look for a GM position, Junior CFO or something like that to get another job that pays that kind of money. Whoever consider hiring him at this level will do an extensive background check, including calling his previous employer ;;D

Unless he is the "backbone" of your company, then look at it for what it is; a person with a far to big ego that will never be satisfied. Once he gets the health insurance, he'd ask for a company car, paid vacation in the Bahamas etc, etc.

Maybe some of this falls back on you. It could be that you are so nice and approachable that he felt that he could push the envelope without consequence, "knowing" that you would not "let him go". It is hard to have to hire new people and to train them etc, but sometimes that is what you will have to do in order to keep order.

Sometimes people get in under your skin - but it aint shit compared to a K-10 ;)

Marty

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by yikes-another-one on Jun 25^th, 2005, 11:01am

ahemm

i take home about 10,000 a year. :-*
Work my ass off 40 plus hours a week.

i put my hubby through college on this amount,
and never had a late fee to any of our bills.
Yeah, we have credit debt,
yeah I don't shop much,

and we let go of helath insurance because it
got to be $700 a month...um that's
more than the aparment rent....

&*$** blue cross bastards.
They hand out free insurance to
kids under 18....and ^*$%&% anyone
who can "afford it". :-[

At this point. i don't want insurance. :-X
i don't even want a doctor!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Kevin_M on Jun 25^th, 2005, 11:50am

on 06/24/05 at 19:12:09, Sean_C wrote:

I have to ask an honest opinion from someone who's biased

honestly biased? Ok, I'm in. ;)

Greed. The choice of giving up $4,500 a month take home, for a variable estimated $600.00 a month (no dependents) expense to him... I'd guess he figures he can do better, but should review his math a little, as well as opportunities. You offered what further you are capable of doing for him.
It could be foolhardy of him. While he may have been enduring the dangers of not having insurance, or the expense of having it, and took a stand on principle for insurance, he is forgetting to properly assess the danger of not having the $4,500.00 a month to live, and be able to bridge the gap of enduring danger with his principles by his own means. The incident could have been instilled by bravada and not wanting to come across timid about it, and so quit. Foolhardy, I say.

Hope he is still content in his sister's basement now.

Kevin M

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Jonny on Jun 25^th, 2005, 11:51am

on 06/24/05 at 19:40:19, Redd715 wrote:

Unfortunately, afte all the BS folks went threw to get me a chance to try O2, it will kill a shadow but don't touch the beast. :-/

Thats just the thing with 02, kill the beast before he rears his ugly ass.....I dont know anyone that can abort the full blown beast with 02.

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Karla on Jun 25^th, 2005, 2:06pm

I would have fired him on the spot for insubordination and then fight his unemployement. That is just rediculous. You were 100%in the right.

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by forgetfulnot on Jun 25^th, 2005, 2:50pm

In Oklahoma we have a law "Work at will" which basically means either party may terminate employment at any time for any reason with no recourse available to either party. If you quit or are fired for cause unemployment compensation is not available.

Officers of a corporation or partners of a company fall under different laws.

Lee

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Kiwiinoz58 on Jun 25^th, 2005, 9:47pm

Wow I sure would love his pay!!! For the last 2 years I've been living on Aust $280 per week and paying $150 week buying my unit. No health insurance of course and Imigran costs $135 for 2 refills. He sounds like a greedy bastard whom you could well do without. Don't waste ya energy on thumping him, just smile and wave goodbye :D
Cheers,
Jacqs(Kiwi)

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Ree on Jun 26^th, 2005, 12:25am

CAN I HAVE HIS JOB..... IM SURE I COULD FIGURE IT OUT.... GET BACK TO ME..... I'D LOVE TO MAKE WHAT IT COST ME IN BILLS FOR A MONTH PER WEEK SHEESH....WHAT A CA CA HEAD.... I WOULD GO HIT HIM SEAN.... IF HE CANT AFFORD INSURANCE WITH THE 1800.00 YOU PAY HIM PER WEEK THEN HE CANT AFFORD INSURANCE.... WHAT A DOPE..... REE

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by cootie on Jun 26^th, 2005, 12:59am

Throw your cat at him.......slice and dice Pam

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Pinkfloyd on Jun 26^th, 2005, 2:09am

on 06/24/05 at 19:12:09, Sean_C wrote:

IOne of my employees gave his notice today because he does not have health insurance. Sean...............................................

Tell him thanks but no thanks, you don't need his "notice" and fight his unemployment tooth and nail. It'll make you feel better even if he does get it in the end. If he was making $1800.00 a month, he'd probably still get the UI but at the rate he was earning, he was making more than whatever the Unemployment Administrator is making and will probably be denied. No reason your insurance should go up because this guys a jerk.
Be careful what you say when he has his new prospective employers call for a reference. No doubt he will because he figures he's been the perfect employee (these types always do) and will be expecting a glowing report from you. States vary on what you are required to say and what you can't say. Find out the rules if you're not sure and don't provide any more than is necessary one way or the other or he'll end up calling the labor relations board. (these types usually do lol)
If permissable in your state, provide nothing without a written request.

Sometimes, the only thing tougher than being an employEE, is being an employER. >:(

Bobw
P.S. He's probably leaving for some other reason anyway, like he wants to take the summer off and unemployemnt insurance will probably cover his rent, he thinks. If he uses a computer at work, check to see if he's been visiting vacation sites and/or Travelocity

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by don on Jun 26^th, 2005, 7:13am

Heres what you do.

Tell him the State is starting a new Big Dig and you won the contract. Tell him the new tunnel runs from Southie over to Dorchester.

Take him over to the beach at Castle Island, point over the bay to Columbia Point. Hand him the goon spoon and say "start here". Then get in your truck and leave.

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Sean_C on Jun 26^th, 2005, 8:57pm

on 06/26/05 at 07:13:18, don wrote:

ROTFLMMFAO its gonna be 100 tomorrow too, the natives should be quite friendly you think ;;D

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by don on Jun 26^th, 2005, 9:15pm

Tell him there is a free speed pass in the deal if he finishes at less than 15 billion.

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Jun 26^th, 2005, 9:24pm

The guy's a looser.
Last year I earned (Aust)$48,000 and paid $3,000 for my own insurance plus 1.5% to national Health fund.
Keep the job for me, as soon as I find the other oar for my dingy i'm on my way.

Regards
Barry

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by Frank_W on Jun 27^th, 2005, 8:19am

Sean, don't even waste one second of time on this idiot. Tell him that if he is unhappy with the benefits at your company, to seek employment elsewhere. McDonald's is hiring, I think.... ::) >:(

Title: Re: Lost $1,800.00 ??????
Post by giffy76 on Jun 27^th, 2005, 9:29am

I would offer him a new posotion as the Head Tullip planter on your organ.

Where's he live? I want to give him a taste of med. bills w/out insurance. What a fuck!