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Title: Bout time.. Post by TheMasterBaker on Jun 17th, 2005, 3:59pm http://www.3dflags.com/media/icon/classic/u/3dflagsdotcom_usa_2fawl.gif (http://www.whitehouse.gov/) |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Frank_W on Jun 17th, 2005, 4:01pm GOOD!!! Bastards.... >:( |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by notseinfeld on Jun 17th, 2005, 4:06pm Hallelujah! Best news I've had all day. Thanks for the post and I'm still baffled by how it passed my radar. Now all we need is Bolton to put the nail in the coffin. And Frank, don't you work man? |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Ueli on Jun 17th, 2005, 4:38pm |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by ghost62 on Jun 17th, 2005, 4:39pm [smiley=headbanger.gif] [smiley=headbanger.gif] [smiley=headbanger.gif] [smiley=biggrin.gif] [smiley=biggrin.gif] [smiley=biggrin.gif] [smiley=cool2.gif] |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 17th, 2005, 5:33pm The major reason the United Nations has had what problems it has is because the member with such a big pile of marbles won't show up for the game, which should be embarrassing. It's certainly a childish response. It's such a typical reaction from Tom Delay & company, although the adminstration ostensibly withdrew support for this bill and said it wants to pay the dues. It's up to the Senate now. I thought we were over making the mistakes of the 1930s. Isolationism in the 21st century is suicidal. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by burnt-toast on Jun 17th, 2005, 5:55pm I need to get a list of the jack asses that voted against the Bill. [smiley=looser.gif] We need to know who is selling out to an organization that consistently fails to accomplish anything. (Well, other than successfully using the positions of power it creates to allow a select few to increase their wealth.) [smiley=hurl.gif] |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Jonny on Jun 17th, 2005, 5:56pm Get the UN out of the US and the US out of the UN... "The world has entrusted the United Nations with the tremendous task of promoting peace and international cooperation across the globe," said Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.). "Unfortunately, for years we have watched UN employees neglect their lofty goals and actually contribute to the demise of war-torn nations." "From the jungles of the Congo to the swamps of Sierra Leone, UN employees have committed crimes involving money laundering, sexual exploitation, fraud, and human rights abuses. The litany of scandals involving UN employees and the apparent lack of leadership from UN officials is appalling" added Wilson. Throw them the fuck out!, they dont even pay their fucking parking tickets....But, we do! |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 17th, 2005, 6:11pm Saving lives and nearly eliminating some deadly diseases doesn't have the "If it bleeds, it leads" quality for the FOX "News" channel. The "crimes" of the UN pale to insignificance when compared to the greedy bastards who make sure tons of money disappears in similar operations by others. A lot of these failures can be attributed to our support of regimes that steal from their own people. Save the duh responses for your Hummer bumper stickers. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Jonny on Jun 17th, 2005, 6:16pm on 06/17/05 at 18:11:23, Charlie wrote:
Nuff said! Boot them the fuck out!! |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by burnt-toast on Jun 17th, 2005, 7:08pm on 06/17/05 at 17:33:32, Charlie wrote:
The difference between isolationism of the 1930s and now is that 1930s isolationism has been replaced by U.N. backed world interference and control. Why have the U.N.... and so called developed nations backed leaders that terrorize their own people? (Saddam Hussain is a good expample) They believed they could be controlled and there was something to gain from that control. It has backfired every time, resulting in more atrocities, hatred and violence around the globe. The U.N.'s results have consistently been opposed to its charter. Forget about the cozy "One World" agenda because power and greed are running the show. "One World" isn't happening when it means... "One Way" - Or the U.N. backed by so called developed nations will step in and tell you how to run and live in your own country.... And - by the way, we're going to seize your resources to pay for our services.... And - by the way, we insist you change your culture becasue we deem it uncivilized... Where I may agree with the concept I can't agree with the application. Along with the U.N. we're dancin on a Fire Ant hill and it's only a matter of time before enough Ants get to their attackers. Tom |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Kirk on Jun 17th, 2005, 7:12pm The UN was a great idea that has gone terribly wrong. We should learn from their mistakes, scrap it and start over. |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 17th, 2005, 8:33pm Quote:
We just don't like it when others horn in our interfering. The Defense Department says that that's our job and we don't need the UN to get in our way of tying medical aid to countries that play along with our silly abortion and birth control ideas, as an example. That is stunningly arrogant, childish and simply, mean. We are the big kid on the block and we can afford to give such a good idea as the UN a break, and it certainly is that. Constant UN bashing looks bad and pisses off most of our friends, even the British. Not everything we do is always the best. Our standard of living is no better and not as good in several ways as several European countries. We have room for improvement too. It's also fun looking outward and listening to other ideas now and then. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 17th, 2005, 9:09pm on 06/17/05 at 20:33:24, Charlie wrote:
not to mention the the US bashing that goes on...its what is pissing us off, but thats different I guess..... I know that if we did the same crimes as the UN the world would be outraged, but that is different too...If only people would stand up for the US as strongly as they do for the UN, but that is different I guess....... |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Jonny on Jun 17th, 2005, 9:18pm on 06/17/05 at 21:09:25, maffumatt wrote:
You mean like giving the scumbags at Gitmo bibles, three squares, five times aday to pray.....the best living that they have ever seen. Oh yeah, we are Nazi's....Give me a Fucking break! |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 17th, 2005, 9:25pm Quote:
Yes it is. It's unnecessary. We know we have a good deal here and it's human nature not to like the tough guy. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Jonny on Jun 17th, 2005, 9:34pm When are these UN scumbags going to pay their parking tickets? Between all the countries it goes into the millions.....do you like paying for what they dont? UN dude rapes your daughter....guess what?....they send him home, no arrest....What up with that shit? BOOT THEM OUT... |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 17th, 2005, 9:36pm i was being sarastic, if it was found out that the US was haveing sex parties with minors in Iraq, like it is Known the UN is doing in Sierra Leone, and when busted just move them to another country, the same people that defend the UN would be calling for trials and hearings, but when its the UN that does wrong, all you hear is quiet...but that is just the opinion of an evil Republican with a headache.......... |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Jonny on Jun 17th, 2005, 9:57pm on 06/17/05 at 21:36:11, maffumatt wrote:
Sounds like the church, eh? |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by burnt-toast on Jun 17th, 2005, 10:00pm As an ideal the U.N. may work but it stops there. The messes we are attempting to deal with in Afganistan, Iraq and many African nations (and sacrificing U.S. Lives for) are the direct result of U.N., U.S., British, French, Russian, etc. interference and greed. Huge amounts of money were/are being sucked out of these small nations. Ripped apart and left with tyrants as rulers to benefit U.N. members, participating nations and global corporations. I can't defend an entity that has screwed virtually every developing nation. The U.N. earns the hatred directed towards it around the world. Participating nations, including the U.S. and our friends are clearly not innocent and frequently manipulate the power hunger and greed within the U.N. to push initiatives. The tradgedy is that innocent people pay dearly for leadership so focused on power and greed. Tom |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by cazman on Jun 18th, 2005, 8:01am yeah they cut the money there to go and waste it on iraq or some other use sceme this bush moron comes up with . sorry i cant stand the guy at all he needs to go and soon |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 18th, 2005, 11:35am can't you just feel the love and togetherness, isn't it great when a country gets over its petty differences and gets down to the tasks at hand. United We Stand....yeah right. |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 18th, 2005, 11:50am Here are your Nazis Jonny http://kafirnation.com/portal/boxx/photos/%7B9C1729AA-18FC-4762-95A6-206F12192CC1%7D_pal_swastika.jpgitkrxy.jpeg http://kafirnation.com/portal/boxx/photos/%7B087C42F5-0915-4070-ADC8-73BF3F6B3D79%7D_nazi_jihad.jpg http://kafirnation.com/portal/boxx/photos/%7BD0C4D02F-75CE-4505-86A2-014DF1186DE3%7D_nazis_islam.jpg |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 18th, 2005, 12:10pm this is why its going to be a long battle..... http://kafirnation.com/portal/boxx/photos/%7BB1440246-06F6-4B4F-8686-75DE6DBB48BA%7D_mdf32318.jpg http://kafirnation.com/portal/boxx/photos/%7BC88255CC-A90F-4A3A-A1A5-01F051C82B0E%7D_kid_rifle_koran.jpg http://kafirnation.com/portal/boxx/photos/%7B266C9C13-223C-448D-9538-3145CDB00264%7D_pababy.jpg |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by notseinfeld on Jun 19th, 2005, 12:39pm Digging a little deeper perhaps someone could show me where in the Contitution it allows the government to seize the wealth of American citizens and subvert our national soverignty by distributing the money worldwide. Regardless of the lofty ideals and supposed places the money will be allocted to the basic premise is the same: it's illegal, and wrong. Anyone looked at the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) put forth by the UN that seeks control of the majority of the oceans and will tax anyone's usage thereof? How about the 'world tax' which is really just pillaging wealthy countries and redistributing it to 3rd world nations where no matter how much money they receive will not change a damn thing. (see Africa) How about their oft-lauded internet tax scheme? The countless resolutions against Sadaam while profiteering from US monies in Oil-for-Corrupt UN Officials scandal? The UN is decidely an anti-American conglomeration of 2-bit dicatators, middle east weird beards and embodies the dangers of coordinated socialism and the plunder of the US. Doesn't the red flag raise high when Ted Turner donates money there? GET US OUT! |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Lizzie2 on Jun 19th, 2005, 12:52pm Ugh.... This stuff is all disturbing on some level. You could pull apart each little issue and place, and I wouldn't even know where to start. But....things like Rwanda...? If it weren't FOR the UN, a whole heaping lot more people would have died - and beneath the scope of the US, the British, the French, etc... I'm hoping to get to Africa at some point to do medical work, but I haven't settled on what organization to work through. Doctors without borders is an option, but can send ya anywhere they want. IRC is a choice, too. Other, smaller relief agencies can send you directly where you want to go (Kinshasa, Kigali, etc) but you may not get paid...so it's all on your own funding (with risk of death without government backing LOL). I guess when I decided to do that, it was to go without getting tied up in political red tape, but I assume that there's no escaping that. Someone has to monitor the relief workers who go over...or relief dies too. :-[ The United States has not put Africa on the front page seriously for quite some time... If the US doesn't go there, who will? (Just one example...I just speak about that area because it's where my interests have lied for a long long time.) carrie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 20th, 2005, 3:06am Yes. If we were to pull out or withdraw all support, you'd have The League of Nations, which by the way, Charles Evans Hughes and other crazed Repuiblicans travelled coast to coast to make sure we wouldn't be a member. It was Wilson's idea, which to them translated as bad. Pretty sad state of affairs. Real dumb, bad historical outcome. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 20th, 2005, 5:39pm LOL the Republicans were anti war, as was most of the country. We did not want to get involved with wars over the pond. Those crazy dumb republicans were doing as their constituants elected them to do. They did not wan't an organization to force us soldiers into a war that they did not wan't. Here is a kicker, the democratic platform of today, other than the, bash Bush agenda, is little different than the 1917 socialist party platform. Here is Wilsons responce to it. The growth of the left worried Woodrow Wilson and his administration and America entered what became known as the Red Scare period. On 7th November, 1919, the second anniversary of the revolution, Alexander Mitchell Palmer, Wilson's attorney general, ordered the arrest of over 10,000 suspected communists and anarchists. These people were charged with "advocating force, violence and unlawful means to overthrow the Government". On 7th November, 1919, the second anniversary of the Russian Revolution, over 10,000 suspected communists and anarchists were arrested in what became known as the Palmer Raids. Palmer and Hoover found no evidence of a proposed revolution but large number of these suspects were held without trial for a long time. The vast majority were eventually released but Emma Goldman, Alexander Berkman, Mollie Steimer, and 245 other people, were deported to Russia. LOL see Bush try to do that....but that is different ...... |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 20th, 2005, 9:19pm Quote:
http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/glance up.gif Me too. Start a draft as well. Make my day. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Gator on Jun 21st, 2005, 12:38am on 06/20/05 at 21:19:32, Charlie wrote:
EEEHHHHH!!! Wrong answer Charlie. 'Twas two Democrats that tried to start the draft up and one of them didn't vote for his own legislation. The other one cast the only vote in favor of it. |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 21st, 2005, 7:06am Shhhh... thats different. The draft would be bad for the country, but not for the democrats, they might get a vote or two from people who might get drafted. |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Gator on Jun 21st, 2005, 10:20am The Democrats have positioned themselves in a very bad place. Good news for the country is bad news for them. In order to win back the power they lost, things have to go bad in the economy, the war and in foreign relations. This is why even with positive numbers rolling in they have been screaming about a poor economy. Their willing accomplises - the main stream media - have expended a lot of effort in broadacsting the message of the left while all but ignoring anything positive going on in the nation or the world for that matter if it were wrought by republican effort. Anything that will make the Republicans and Bush in particular look bad gets the airtime. |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by burnt-toast on Jun 21st, 2005, 10:53am From the larger perspective we can't turn the issues into a Republican vs. Democrat arguement. These problems have come out of bad decisons made by many admisistrations - Democrat and Republican. Politicians from both sides of the aisle (as we often hear our representatives and media say) refuse comprimise because it may make the other side of the aisle look good. Instead of working together to find the best solutions - this form of pure politics results in one-sided decisions, based on who has control at the time. Unless of course it is a vote on pay raises, additional perks, or involves entities that both parties are well leveraged in. Then instead of comprimise we get immediate concensus. These folks were elected to represent the country - not a party or specific groups of special intersts. It's time for the people to remind representatives why they were elected and who they actually work for. That's our role in the process - we're not doing it very well and are paying for our apathy. Tom |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Gator on Jun 21st, 2005, 1:04pm on 06/21/05 at 10:53:40, burnt-toast wrote:
Too many Americans don't care enough to get involved in ruling their own destiny. They are quite happy to let someone else make their decisions for them. More and more Americans are willing to subordinate their rights to a government that is all to willing to provide for them - in exchange for more control of the people they supposedly work for. Every time you reach into the social program pot for another helping, another link is added to the chain that will bind you. For some reason, that fact is lost on the masses. |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Frank_W on Jun 21st, 2005, 1:26pm on 06/21/05 at 13:04:13, Gator wrote:
Very well said, Mike. The foundation of societal and spiritual freedom is the willingness to accept personal, individual responsibility for oneself, actions, and well-being. Freedom and responsibility go hand in hand. The less responsibility that people are willing to assume, the tighter the chains that bind them. In the words of Captain John Smith at Jamestown: "No work. No eat." |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by giffy76 on Jun 21st, 2005, 1:32pm I would give anything to live in the 1800s. You steal my horse, I'll shoot you. you invade my land "country" I'll shoot you. If you talk shit about me, I'll pistol whip you and drag you behind my horse. Our ancestors wouldn't put up with the crap that our goverment dishes out, so why are we? because that's what we have been brain washed to do. just my opinion. |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Frank_W on Jun 21st, 2005, 2:01pm Giffy, I've said the same thing so many times... I was born 200 years too late. :-/ >:( |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by notseinfeld on Jun 21st, 2005, 2:28pm Not I. Just born a mere generation too late. Clearly I belonged in some disco with a bitchin hairdo and outfit, eating LSD like candy and seducing curvaceous twins. |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 21st, 2005, 9:58pm [quote][EEEHHHHH!!! Wrong answer Charlie. 'Twas two Democrats that tried to start the draft up and one of them didn't vote for his own legislation. The other one cast the only vote in favor of it. /quote] You guys misunderstood me. I'm very aware that Democrats started the drafts. My thing is that if it were tried again, it would bring back enough support of eligible students and youngsters to insure some hefty Democratic majorities. I have no illusion that it was that that fueled a lot of the 1960s protests. Now if the 5 cent email tax were something real and proposed by the GOP Congress...... Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 21st, 2005, 10:03pm on 06/21/05 at 21:58:58, Charlie wrote:
Posted by: maffumatt Posted on: Today at 6:06am Shhhh... thats different. The draft would be bad for the country, but not for the democrats, they might get a vote or two from people who might get drafted see I told you it was different |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 21st, 2005, 10:09pm Right. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time..Charlie Post by maffumatt on Jun 21st, 2005, 10:11pm Charlie are you saying that you would like to see the draft brought back so that young men, who did not volunteer to serve our country, are forced into harms way, so that the democrats can get a few votes? |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Gator on Jun 21st, 2005, 10:45pm Matt, Charlie hangs off the left side of the liberal bus sometimes, but he's not crazy and he definitely doesn't want to put anyone (except maybe John Ashcroft) in harm's way. He has definite opinions about things like everyone else and he's usually pretty good about expressing them. He can also be good with sarcasm and irony and knows his history pretty well, too. Charlie's a good egg. except that he's a liberal ;;D |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 21st, 2005, 10:56pm I would hope not. I was just trying to follow his logic. |
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Title: ! Post by Charlie on Jun 21st, 2005, 10:57pm Not necessarily that but I always hope the wacko wing of the GOP will step in it. I'm hoping that someday soon the "intelligent design" type voters will figure out that the GOP uses them to get elected more than care about 13th Century intolerance. Speaking of bad for the country... The GOP has been ruined by the far right which is doing its best to make The Bill of Rights irrelevant. I will never understand supporting politicians that so much as consider censorship. It should be at the top of the list. You know, there is a compelling theory that has been around since the Civil War that says that it's a good thing to have a few people in the service that aren't all that crazy about it. It's healthy for democracy. Aside almost complete lack of presence by the members of Congress' families and other connected or wealthy types, (the army is too "ethnic" as they say or too poor) having some people who have other choices in the armed forces is the best way to keep the idea of the citizen soldier alive. We don't want soldiers that enjoy war, and a few exist. Theory anyway. The services must be doing something right though because with rare exception, I find that our soldiers make wonderful citizens. It can't be only the army but either we're very lucky or benefit from something not that evident. I'm hoping that our current recruitment problems aren't going to cause us to loosen standards. Old men still send young poor men off to war. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 21st, 2005, 11:35pm Charlie I would have to say that as far to the left you are, I am to the right. The further the to the left goes, the further to the right the right goes. As for the bill of rights go, I wouldn't push that to hard, the left is so "tolerant' of others rights, that they take away "my" rights. I think that the patriot act goes to far, it should be trashed. Every example of the right takeing away our rights, there are far more taken away from the left. My problem with the left comes mostly from the hypocrisy that comes out of their leadership. From people like Harry Reid, Dean, Byrd, Hillary,and Kennedy. They have lost their "class". Take Durbins recent speaches for example. How do you think our military and their families like haveing the Senators commpareing them to Nazis ? It just seems that they want the US to fail in everything from the war to the economy just so they can get back in power. Talk about poor, I have been on my own since I was 15, I have slept in fields and allys, I have eaten out of trash cans and bathed in drainage ditches. I know what real hunger is. No one helped me, I helped myself. I have never eaten a meal from a stamp, drawn an unemployment check, or stole from anyone. I did what I had to to survive, I worked, and I worked hard. If I can do it anyone can. I don't like being told that I cant. I didn't go into the military but alot of poor people do, its a way to step up in life. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/05/22/INGUNCQHKJ1.DTL |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 22nd, 2005, 12:02am I'll take the left's intolerance over Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberston, and other John Ashcroft types any day. Dangerous for neo-cons, not for the Consitution. I've never been poor. Few had a cushier childhood than I but now things have turned around. It's a long story but disability is the only way I can continue to see a neuorologist and buy drugs to lessen my seizures. I'm not good with this but nobody would put me on the books, other than a few deceased friends. You have no idea how I hate going this route. I'll never understand people bashing our troops. I'd have a hard time believing guys like Bryd or Kennedy would go that route at the degree you suggest. Bash Bush and the overall policy but not our kids. The most liberal person I ever knew, said that it's fine to protest wars and actions but not armies once they are committed. It risks lives. Charlie (who is nowhere as near Noam Chomsky as you are to the neo cons) |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 22nd, 2005, 12:07am on 06/22/05 at 00:02:29, Charlie wrote:
Now this WE agree on. Common ground. |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Lizzie2 on Jun 22nd, 2005, 12:02pm on 06/21/05 at 13:32:57, giffy76 wrote:
Here's one of my ancestors: http://www.colonialhall.com/bartlett/bartlett.php He's my great-great-great-great-great grandfather. One of the five 'people I've never met in person' who I'd like to interview some day. ;) Interestingly enough, they named the president on the West Wing the same name. :) Then if we flip to grandma's side of the tree, we've got Mary Smith....married away from the Blackfoot tribe, living on the Sioux nation...married by an Irish settler going westward. Damn if I could go back...I think it would be SO much fun. :) I'd just like to get the ancestors' opinion on the current state of things!! Lizzie :) |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by burnt-toast on Jun 22nd, 2005, 1:49pm I have to believe that the opinion would be somewhere in the range of total disgust with the folks entrusted with their Government by the People and for the People. Tom |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Frank_W on Jun 22nd, 2005, 2:48pm You're doing better than me, Tom. I just hate everyone and everything. It keeps things simple. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 22nd, 2005, 4:56pm With JFK it was the New Frontier and go to the moon. With the lastest batch of morons, it's scrap science, use the Bible as a textbook and get back to the good old days. No thanks. Charlie who is happy for vaccines and drugs that allow be to function at some level even with my seizures. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Lizzie2 on Jun 22nd, 2005, 5:19pm Come now..don'tcha know? Bush wants to go back to the moon! I signed up to go on the first mission ;) |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by giffy76 on Jun 23rd, 2005, 8:44am on 06/22/05 at 14:48:02, Frank_W wrote:
Are you my dad? |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Frank_W on Jun 23rd, 2005, 9:04am LMAO, Giffy! ;;D [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by burnt-toast on Jun 23rd, 2005, 9:46am on 06/22/05 at 14:48:02, Frank_W wrote:
Clearly would be easier. I just can't stand what is passing for leadership in this country anymore and the fact the most folks refuse to get off there back-sides to stop this nonsense. I'll just give three expamples of what I mean. Jonny would love these. The PA House passed a bill yesterday - after three days of debate - requiring all State agencies to purchase flags that are made in America. The intent seems great but why was a law needed to force Government entities to buy such an important symbol of our nation from U.S. manufacturers? The PA house followed this up with a bill that would allow a third party to build/maintain a database - for the State - of PA residents that use Paycheck Loan Services. Strong opposition was received for an amendment that would impose criminal penalties for anyone devulging this sensative information. As it sits if the third party devulges information it's a mere $1,000 fine and under the Right-To-Know laws anyone can request this information from the State. Ya gotta ask yourself why would PA feel it has a right to know who is using these types of loan services? What really boggles the mind is the fact that PA has already passed a law making Paycheck Loan Services illegal in the State. China is seeking to acquire several major U.S. coporations - among them IBM. How broken is our system when a Communist Government can afford to acquire icons of capitalism from the free nation that invented the term capitalism but is trillions in debt. Seems we better start demanding that "Free Trade" be revised to "Fair Trade" soon or we'll all be marching around in uniforms wit' little red stars on our caps. Tom |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:47am From what I understand there is almost nothing left I IBM. Maybe the Chinese can do something with...... What am I saying? Seal the borders... :o Charlie |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by burnt-toast on Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:04am It appears to already be too late. The U.S. Supremen Court has ruled that local Governments can use eminent domain to seize and individuals property and home for PRIVATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. Now every U.S. Citizen has to hope that the property and home they bought, paid for and are taxed to death on doesn't catch the eye of a private developer that is in with local government. If it does it basically gets stolen to benefit a private entity. Welcome to China West! [smiley=mad.gif] Tom |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by maffumatt on Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:21pm on 06/23/05 at 10:47:04, Charlie wrote:
Oh no, Charlie just leaned to the right for a second, you OK buddy? LOL |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by giffy76 on Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:33pm on 06/23/05 at 11:04:30, burnt-toast wrote:
The local gov. did just that to my friends family farm. 180 acres of good farming and hunting turned into a park. It's coplete B.S. |
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Title: Re: Bout time.. Post by Charlie on Jun 23rd, 2005, 9:59pm Quote:
When it comes to governments that really piss me off, it's those meatheads in charge over there and their attemps at manipulating world economies. Charlie |
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