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(Message started by: notseinfeld on Jun 10^th, 2005, 1:31pm)

Title: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by notseinfeld on Jun 10^th, 2005, 1:31pm

This from the BBC:
Police in Seoul, South Korea, line up in the rain as they stand guard during an anti-US rally.

Oh really? Maybe these ungrateful fuckers would like us to move out of the DMZ then huh? We've been babysitting and protecting their undeserved asses for 50 years while their counterparts are in actual gulags in the North unable to speak or leave the country without getting a bullet in their back! (Note to Amnesty International: a real prison crises folks, where are you? )

My guess is that inside of 72 hours after US presence has left the puppet nation of South Korea Kim Il Jung would move his tanks in, force his will, and unify the Koreas once again.
Shame on you South Korea.

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by maffumatt on Jun 10^th, 2005, 4:07pm

The same people over there that don't like us are the same people here that don't like us. We are a good wipping boy for all their ills. Let them have their say, then get back to work, just like here the few dont speak for the majority. They just want you to think so. Besides my dad told me that it was a ROK unit that saved his life, and the lives of all the men on his helicopter when he was shot down in '68. Those ROK units are well respected, and appreciated, at least by me.

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by Gator on Jun 10^th, 2005, 9:16pm

The college students have been demonstrating and rioting against the US for many years. When I was stationed in Korea in 1987-1988 a trip to Seoul could be an interesting experience. More than once I caught the bus to Yongsan Army Garrison and we drove right through the middle of a protest. One in particular, I remember seeing people carrying Molitov c0cktails. THAT was nerve racking - riding in a bus full of American GI's literally through the middle of that protest.

I used to walk around Seoul with my "hiking buddy," a tall blonde female, checking out all the sights. Those same people demonstrating in the streets in the morning would come up to us that evening trying to practice their English (required learning in South Korea) and we would usually end up in a Soju tent with 3 or 4 students buying us food and drink while we talked. I had a blast.

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by Sean_C on Jun 10^th, 2005, 10:46pm

We were in Korea before and I have a feeling we'll be there again within the next ten years. Its gonna happen.

Sean...........................

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by Gator on Jun 10^th, 2005, 11:16pm

on 06/10/05 at 22:46:13, Sean_C wrote:

We were in Korea before and I have a feeling we'll be there again within the next ten years. Its gonna happen.

Sean...........................

We've never left Korea. We've got troops all along the DMZ and have bases scattered throughout the country. The Korean War never actually ended, they are just living under a 50+ year old cease-fire. Technically, every person serving on the Korean peninsula is still serving in a war zone.

Winter is an especially anxious time In South Korea. That's when the river between North and South Korea freezes up enough for the North to roll it's tanks across it. We stayed on alert the entire winter I was there. It is my understanding there are still firefights (there were back in 87-88) along the DMZ and they are constantly finding tunnels the North are digging to move troops across the DMZ. They found one when I was there big enough to move tens of thousands of troops through in a very short period of time.

The older folks definitely appreciate us being there. It's the young idealistic college kids that are the biggest source of anti-American protests.

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by Biker on Jun 11^th, 2005, 12:01pm

We could give them what they wish. Total pull out of their nation. No more money, no more concrete, no more economy, no more protection. What would we loose???? The KIA automobile????? Revtech engines and transmissions????? Korean steel????
My personal imput is bag the whole dayumm planet. Lets bring our guys and gals back home-----and attempt to keep our ducks in a row. We are exporting our jobs to attempt to create a "level playing ground" for the world economy----while hurting our own population.
Seems to me that within the next 1,000 years, were all either gonna become one Earth, or will become a dead planet. We already have energy problems, economic problems, and a great lack of food for everyone alive. The almighty economy is already killing us all----in polution alone!!!!! Eventually, we will send our virous "human disease" into space in order to obtain the natural materials we require to keep our species alive.
Will cockroaches and rats eventually rule our planet, or shall we decide now to interact friendly with the nations of our own earth??? We are currently making those decisions for our great grandchildren

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by Jonny on Jun 11^th, 2005, 2:12pm

Bring our people home and put them on the damn border....WTF?

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by BobG on Jun 12^th, 2005, 8:11am

Oh fuck 'em all!

I showed them 2 years ago. Needed a new car and didn't buy a Hunday or Hynday or Heinydea or whatever they spell it. I bought a car made in America, a Toyota.
Then last year I showed 'em again and didn't buy a Kia. Bought a Dodge. Yep, good 'ol American name made in Canada by a German company.
F'en Koreeans ain't getting my money.
8)

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by toolong on Jun 12^th, 2005, 10:49am

We should have learned our lesson after Vietnam!Friggin bastards don't give a shit about us..just our $.I agree with Jonny bring all our troops home and protect our boarders.And a good place to start is Afganastan and Iraq.Pull our troops out then NUKE the scum bags.They all hate us anyway.Sorry to blow my top so early on a Sunday morning but this subject just burns my ass.Everybody have a PF day ;;DDavid

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by cootie on Jun 12^th, 2005, 4:12pm

Not so sure it's SAFE havein a history of NUKEIN country's we don't like or get along with for whatever reason.....what goes around CAN come around Pam

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by Charlie on Jun 12^th, 2005, 11:57pm

Gator has it right. He should know.

It's old hat and not unique. Nobody likes occupiers after a time and 50 years is just that.

Damn it though. I know little about South Korea. I probably know more on North Korea because of its news interest of late.

Charlie

Title: Re: Yet another ungrateful ally
Post by Gator on Jun 13^th, 2005, 3:01pm

on 06/12/05 at 23:57:19, Charlie wrote:

The term "Occupiers" has the connotation that we are in control by military force. We are not "Occupiers" in Korea.

We are in no way in control over there militarily or otherwise. Our military does not patrol the streets, enforce any civilian law, assist with civil unrest or any such thing. Neither does theirs for that matter. That's all handled by their civilian law enforcement personnel. Our military stays on it's bases and conducts separate and joint training with the host nation's military. We are in a protector mode, both by their request and in our best interests, that I don't see ending anytime soon unless and until something happens with North Korea.