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Title: Home school................. Post by Woobie on May 3rd, 2005, 11:09pm Has anyone ever home schooled their kids?? I am pondering - dont know where to start - or if I should even risk my child's education.......just to find out I cant do it. Been to a lot of websites... they all seem religion based. I dont want religion based. Anyway - if anyone has any knowledge on the subject.. could YOU enlighten me?? Thought I would ask the family... before I did something stupid. Teenagers SUCK! tina :-* |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Leesa on May 3rd, 2005, 11:13pm Woobie, get with BarbG she home schooled both her kids for a good while. She can fill ya in hun. Leesa :) |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by maffumatt on May 3rd, 2005, 11:20pm When we moved to Atlanta Tx, my daughter was overly developed for her age. She was constantly harressed by some of the boys there. The teachers and principle would not do anything about it. So I pulled her out and home schooled her for half her 4th grade and all her 5th grade. We moved back home and she attended public school again. When she went back to public school she made all As. It is effort consumeing and you have to be commited. It differs from state to state as to what testing you have to do. It has its good and bad points. |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Charlie on May 3rd, 2005, 11:28pm There is something unsettling about it. Kids need to find out that the world is messy and not like mom & dad's world that they created for their kids. It's important that they not be sheltered from reality. I'm not saying that you or everyone does this but a lot of them do it for religious or political ideas. Not a good idea on that basis Charlie |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Woobie on May 3rd, 2005, 11:45pm No Charlie... That's not my motivation for doing it. It's Not religious, not political, not to avoid vaccinations, not to shelter my kid from reality. She's experienced enough "reality" in the past 6 months at that school than I she needs for a lifetime.. thank you very much. At this point, I'm doing it for her own safety... because the school isn't doing shit. And there's only ONE school here. There isn't another option, besides moving, or homeschooling. And - like I said - I'm just pondering the idea. I dont know if I CAN. I dont know where to begin. I dont want a religion based program. Lisa - thank you - I will get ahold of her - as soon as I figure out how. |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by nani on May 4th, 2005, 12:07am There are tons of resources out there, Tina. I haven't home schooled for high school, but I imagine there are more at that level. There are other ways for her to get her social needs met...even homeschool groups that do activities together. Google it for your area. PM me if you'd like me to share some of my experience. I really enjoyed it. |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by TxBasslady on May 4th, 2005, 12:40am Tina, Get hold of Elaine....she's got all that info too. Her's is downloaded from the net. If you need her #, let me know, sweetie :-* Good luck.....and just remember...I ain't got time to come to Illinois...you'll have to take the tranquilizers by yourself..LMAO Love you bunches :-* Jean |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by kimh on May 4th, 2005, 7:38am Tina, A friend of ours has been home schooling her 14-year old daughter due to health issues. She tells me that like anything else it has up side and down side. Teenagers are at a crucial developmental cross roads and seem to NEED eachother. Peers are so important to them. I can't tell ya what to do but wanted to lend support! As far as the "political" comments here is what i've seen both as an outside observer and as a parent of two teenagers myself: Public Schools still offer a good education - HOWEVER - our social structure has undergone such huge changes insofar as "physical development" (kids are WAY more physically developed today) as well as the "information highway" which has become a runaway train! Public schools are an "institution" and are reluctant to put their foot in a pile of dogshit and get sued.....so the dilemna falls almost entirely on the family structure - most of which both parents are working long hours and not at home! Kids are privy to so much information via computer, cell phones, television, etc. Neither the school nor the family is currently equipped to handle it. I think that parents and schools need to get on the same page in order to be able to deal effectively with the challenges of today and so far, i see the public schools slinking around hoping they'll slide by. Parents today have challenges that are new to us, and so far not much support. Religion has nothing to do with it! I think the schools are sticking their heads up their ass and letting the family shoulder the burden. Meanwhile, kids at school are becoming almost "free agents". It's scary. Anyhow, Tina, from one MOM to another - HANG IN THERE and best luck in whatever direction ya decide to take :-* |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Ree on May 4th, 2005, 7:59am on 05/03/05 at 23:09:05, Woobie wrote:
yes they do...... I have an up and coming recruit my daughter turns 11 today........ OMG......what will I do???Good luck Woobs.....love ya girl friend.... Ree |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Woobie on May 4th, 2005, 8:12am Thanks you guys. I know about all the info on the internet... I was just looking for personal experiences. Jean - come and take her down to Texas!! I'm sure YOU could fix her! and bring me some tranqualizers... wuddya??? |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Jimmy_B on May 4th, 2005, 8:26am Woobie, We home-schooled my daughter for about 2 years due to health issues. First thing you should do is contact the School & set up a meeting with the appropriate school personell, i.e... Principal, Guidance Couselors, teachers, so on. Explain to them the reasons you believe home-schooling would be beneficial. (Probably not a bad idea to get some help on your side in the way of an attorney who specializes in these type of issues.) The attorney should accompany you to this and future meetings. It's not too expensive for the attorney, especially if you do most of the paperwork yourself. If they agree, the school will send over a teacher to help with the home-schooling. Ours was 3 days a week for about two hours. Having that 3rd. party teacher was very beneficial because it gave us a second opinion on what the child needs in terms of study materials, as well as the best course of action. Laws may differ in other states but the child still has rights to attend all school functions i.e. assemblies, pep rallies, proms, dances and all after school functions. Hope this helps some. It's been such a long time since we went through this...but it was very important for us to have the attorney. She really helped us with the schools questions & demands. Jimmy |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by ShariRae on May 4th, 2005, 8:38am Woobie If the school is not protecting your daughter...then they are in the wrong....Have you thought of calling in your local TV station & telling them your (her) story? I KNOW thats how a parent here FINALLY got action & got her daughters needs addressed & met. The school will just a bout turn cartwheels rather than have bad publicity....Best of Luck Shari |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by LadyElaine on May 4th, 2005, 10:49am Hi Tina, I been researching Homeschooling for three years now. We are homeschooling JD. If I had it all to do over again I would have home schooled my children. I know I can not spell. JD s 4 and already spelling words. Tina there are on line schools for the teens. They cost a pertty penny but from what I know about them they are good and you can pay in payments. I belong to some groups I will email you some links. Matter of fact I am taking a six week homeschooling course free just have to buy two books. Not all home schools are religish based. go get this book. The home schooling Book of answers and The first year of homeschooling your child both by Linda Dobson. Call me if you want to talk ! I will tell you what I can about what I know. The main thing is to keep your daughter in some kind of outside activitys. She needs to be with other kids! |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Karla on May 4th, 2005, 11:17am I have several friends that homeschool their kids and love it. They go to state convention for home schoolers and network with other homeschooled kids to do field trips with. There kids are very well ajusted. I would go for it if you have it in you. Abeca is a good curriculum and yoiu can just leave the relegious part out. |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Hirvimaki on May 4th, 2005, 12:03pm on 05/03/05 at 23:28:55, Charlie wrote:
And why is that? Religious and political education is a BAD thing? Or is it just that political and religious education from family is bad, whereas political and religious indoctrination in public school is acceptable? Hirvimaki-Isi |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by LadyLuv on May 4th, 2005, 12:51pm ;) Hi There Texasbasslady.... I've got her back here in Illinois... I can swoop up to Woobie if she be needing me... Woobie, I wish you the best of luck Sweetie... I've never done it myself, but I personally know several people that have.. The indiviual groups here (Champaign, IL) get together for outings and and other events... Infact a couple families are working together.. Peace & Blessings Lady Luv |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by nani on May 4th, 2005, 12:59pm on 05/04/05 at 12:03:32, Hirvimaki wrote:
I know a few cases where this was harmful for the child's education, IMO. The Bible is not the only source for History and Literature. It can (and should be if it's important to the family) part of the cirriculum, but it shouldn't be the only resource. Education should be geared towards giving children some facts and teaching them how to think. Not what to think. Spiritual and religious education is different. |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Hirvimaki on May 4th, 2005, 1:25pm on 05/04/05 at 12:59:24, nani wrote:
I disagree with you in that regard. on 05/04/05 at 12:59:24, nani wrote:
I know innumerable cases where public education has been harmful to children's education, IMO. on 05/04/05 at 12:59:24, nani wrote:
And the reason Kaisa-Tinúviel will be homeschooled is that we find the "what to think" of public education unpalatable. "The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed a standard citizenry, to put down dissent and originality." -- H.L. Mencken Amen. Hirvimaki-Isi |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by ghost62 on May 4th, 2005, 1:29pm on 05/04/05 at 13:25:24, Hirvimaki wrote:
We may see some things differently Hirv but in this case I have to agree! I like to call it dumbing down but it is still the same thing. It is alot easier to dumb down than to bring the slower children up. I always thought that this way of thinking was back assward. |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by seasonalboomer on May 4th, 2005, 1:30pm -------------------------- Mencken's Creed by H.L. Mencken I believe that religion, generally speaking, has been a curse to mankind - that its modest and greatly overestimated services on the ethical side have been more than overcome by the damage it has done to clear and honest thinking. I believe that no discovery of fact, however trivial, can be wholly useless to the race, and that no trumpeting of falsehood, however virtuous in intent, can be anything but vicious. I believe that all government is evil, in that all government must necessarily make war upon liberty... I believe that the evidence for immortality is no better than the evidence of witches, and deserves no more respect. I believe in the complete freedom of thought and speech... I believe in the capacity of man to conquer his world, and to find out what it is made of, and how it is run. I believe in the reality of progress. I - But the whole thing, after all, may be put very simply. I believe that it is better to tell the truth than to lie. I believe that it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe that it is better to know than be ignorant. |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Charlie on May 4th, 2005, 2:41pm Thanks. Menckin is one of my favorites. I recommend him to everyone. 8) Charlie |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by kimh on May 4th, 2005, 2:50pm Put the religion shit aside for a minute (i understand that may pose a challenge for some). Home Schooling offers an alternative to kids and families who for VARYING reasons are having difficulties achieving optimum educational experience. Tina asked a simple question for gawd's Saaaaaaaaaake. Hey Tina, I say if things is goin South on the youngin, then yer doin the rite thing by her and best luck to you all ;) |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by TxBasslady on May 4th, 2005, 3:12pm on 05/04/05 at 12:51:56, LadyLuv wrote:
Dear Ruthie...... Please pack a bag.....and keep it close...very close by. You must be ready..........cause things go fast at Woobie's :P Oh....BTW, Ruthie.....please don't forget the camera :o 'Cause without pics.....I will NEVER believe this is gonna happen....LMAO Tina, my friend....you know I support you, no matter what you decide. (but I still ain't comin' to Illinois) I love you....and think it's bout time I call you! [smiley=huh.gif] Jean |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by BlueMeanie on May 4th, 2005, 8:02pm Hey Woobs, It could be a good idea, but..... depends on the kid's attitute and such. That'd be a lot of stress on ya if she doesn't want to participate in home schooling. You may want to check with the school principle on alternative programs. My son had problems at school and was about to just give up. We managed to get him enrolled in an alternative school that was affiliated with his school at no cost to us. They put aside funds for select candidates that are borderline. His grades improved dramatically and he actually enjoyed it. Ended up graduating with his original classmates and all worked out without the hassles. Just a thought. |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Charlie on May 4th, 2005, 8:11pm When I was a kid, the best schools in my town were the Catholic schools. Lots of people sent their tykes there no matter what their religious bent. I don't have knowledge of them today. They are probably very good so long as they aren't full of politics. I don't know the tuition. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by medic1852 on May 5th, 2005, 7:40am Just my 2 cents on the matter...I dont agree with the public school system...I refuse to conform...but on the other hand I know a guy at work who was home schooled...Super guy nice very intelligent, the only problem with him is he is kind of odd...folks at work call him Corky, from the show I dont remember the name. He is very gullible and shy. But very intelligent..Kind of a double edge sword. |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by LadyElaine on May 5th, 2005, 8:39am Hi Medic, don't let one home schooler cause you to wonder. There are a lot of corky people in public schools to ;-)! There are bad parents, bad teachers. Its a toss up. Home schooling isn't easy for the parent. Its hard work in a lot of ways. I think most parents that home school really love their children and they go the extra mile to see they learn, not just on school work but they socialize their children in hundreds of ways. They teach them good behavior, and what the adult world expects of them. Yet they still alow them to be children. I am sure they are a few that home school that don't do these things and that is a shame. I know we will home school JD because we love him and feel we will go the extra mile to see he gets a good education. I agree with your post, I just wanted to add to it. Public school just is not as good as it use to be, for people who can not pay the bucks for private school Home school is wonderful. Just my opinion. Our JD is 4 years old yesterday I pulled my hair back in a pony tail and he said Nani "I love your new fashion" Then later I was kicking the ball with him I kicked it real high in the air. JD looked at me and said "Nani that is real impressive!" I almost fell over to hear him use that word and use it right. He can already spell foour words. Yes I am bragging LOL! Woobie its different in your case your daughter is older and has already been to school, not knowing her whole problem or yours I don't know really how to help you except to send you information i have! ok I am going back to my corner now :-) |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by medic1852 on May 5th, 2005, 9:20am Ladyelaine. (is this a Mr. Rogers reference?) Hey I agree there are some "corkys " in public schools as well. I was just giving my 2 cents, I think alot of the problem with home school is the lack of interaction, but this is a hurddel that can be overcome. I wish I was smart enough to home school my pigs, but I am not, I dont agree with alot of what is taught and not taught in public schools, and I want the goverment out of it, I dont want a teachers political opinion ingrained in my childs mind, I dont want a child who conforms because they are taught group not indiviuality. I just think it is a double edeged sword. Love ya! Rodger! |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by LadyElaine on May 5th, 2005, 10:27am LOL it kind of is ;-) I think your right that a few don't. Only a very few. There are ways other than school to interact, church, scouts, 4H, swim classes, summer camps, sports, music lessions, home school groups. The homeschool has updated through the years, they have one day a week get togethers and projects to do as groups, fild trips with all the parents there. Its really neat. I aways thought school was best till I researched it and found a lot of things are cool for homeschoolers. Home school is not for everyone. I don't know that one is better than the other, I don't think it matters as long as the children are happy and educated. I really like you post. You are right It does have a double edeged sword. Kids can be lost in both home school and Public school. Socialization is important. |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by LadyLuv on May 5th, 2005, 11:20am Hey Texasbasslady... bags, packed and I'm ready to head out the door for a Whoopie Rescue.. I agree with most of the statements here.. it depends of the child, the child attitude and the parents capability to relate to the child. Home schooling will not solve all problems, but it can solve some if the child is having problems in public school or under certain per pressure. Whoopie just allow me to say, make sure you investigate the situation completely before diving into it, and make sure you're able to handle it... LOL and Prayers Lady Luv |
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Title: Re: Home school................. Post by Charlie on May 5th, 2005, 1:13pm Public school, was designed to increase literacy at a time when many on the farm didn't think it all that necessary. The industrial revolution no doubt, had a lot to do with it. While it needs some improvement, it mostly does its job. Public schools are an easy target for the ills of the world. In my case, home schooling would have been a disaster. I hate to think what would have been the result as my social skills are nothing to write home about. I'd likely have been one of those Corkys. Charlie |
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