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(Message started by: cootie on Apr 24th, 2005, 7:03pm)
Title: English everyone ?
Post by cootie on Apr 24th, 2005, 7:03pm
Had sum people here today to look at pups & dogs(I run a small dog kennel here) and they were foreign....nice people......used up a good 1  1/2 hours of my time basically for a question and answer period I at times find annoying but it is obvious there interested in breeding in the future. So....they use me for a learning expirience and get as much info out as they can. Ok.....that's irritateing enuff but I handle'd it. But they'd look at dogs and pups and ask questions and suddenly break out into sum sort of fast talkin forgien GIBBERISH. Why did that piss me off so bad ?? USA english speaking bred Pam  :-/
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by don on Apr 24th, 2005, 7:08pm

Quote:
Why did that piss me off so bad ??


Because its ignorant?
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by nani on Apr 24th, 2005, 7:08pm
When people do that around me, I always wonder if they're saying something they don't want me to hear. It could be that they're just more comfortable speaking their native language to each other...
~paranoid nani
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by don on Apr 24th, 2005, 7:09pm

Quote:
It could be that they're just more comfortable speaking their native language to each other...


Bring a translator.
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by nani on Apr 24th, 2005, 7:16pm

on 04/24/05 at 19:09:02, don wrote:
Bring a translator.


I said...to each other.
Maybe I misread cooties post. I thought she said they were talking to her and then would talk gibberish. I figured that meant they talked to each other in gibberish. Which to my knowledge isn't an actual language.  :-/
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by BobG on Apr 24th, 2005, 7:22pm
Let's look at what you wrote and figure out why it pissed you off..............


on 04/24/05 at 19:03:18, cootie wrote:
Had sum people here today they were foreign....nice people......used up a good 1  1/2 hours of my time basically annoying ....they use me for a learning expirience and get as much info out as they can. Ok.....that's irritateing enuff But they'd look at dogs and pups and break out into sum sort of fast talkin forgien GIBBERISH. Why did that piss me off so bad ?? USA english speaking bred Pam  :-/


Nice people? Sounds to me like they're some very rude axxholes that are taking you for an idiot.
If they want to buy dogs or pups then sell them some. At triple the normal price. In American cash only. And have them sign a statement stating they will never use your dogs for breeding. Hid the statement deep in receipt or any paper work that goes with dog selling.
Or have a couple of the dogs "fixed" and don't tell the gibberish speakers.
Title: Answer From A Giberish Speaker
Post by Ueli on Apr 24th, 2005, 7:56pm
An alternative very flattering to all non-American posters to this board:

English / Giberish


But I'm a bit confused: Since Cootie doesn't write in English, does she write gibberish ?

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Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by sandie99 on Apr 24th, 2005, 8:05pm
Well my former landlady just loved it when me and my flatmate were talking Finnish. She told us that it was the most beautiful language she has ever heard... :)

I thought that was a nice thing thing to say.

In general, when I'm around people who don't understand Finnish, I don't speak that but the language we all can speak.  :)
Title: Re: Answer From A Giberish Speaker
Post by BobG on Apr 24th, 2005, 8:05pm

on 04/24/05 at 19:56:48, Ueli wrote:
Since Cootie doesn't write in English, does she write gibberish ?

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Yes, usually.
The rest of the time it's misunderstandable.
But it's funny as hell.  [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by cootie on Apr 24th, 2005, 10:37pm
I didn't realize there was a code of spelling around here.....I write in LAX english shit-heads. I didn't know it wasn't legible.....actually I don't give a shit. Take what ya can understand or jus skip the rest like usual.......anyhow......they were talking in some sort of hungarian language. They'd ask me questions then discuss what I said in 'whatever' tongue......man did they ever talk fast. Yeah.....it is annoying when ya have to have not so pefect strangers over for a liveing ta sell stuff . I don't relate to everyone Pam

edit'd cuz I can't spell worse then normal cuz of a FUNK that come over me............
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by pattik on Apr 24th, 2005, 11:05pm
Pam, I find your posts stimulating, interesting, funny sometimes, and I never have problems getting your point.  Keep up the good words. ;;D   pk
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by don on Apr 24th, 2005, 11:08pm

Quote:
LAX english shit-heads


Or Ex-Lax you shit loads.  8)
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by BobG on Apr 24th, 2005, 11:08pm
It's plenty legible. What does LAX mean?  [smiley=huh.gif]
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by cootie on Apr 24th, 2005, 11:15pm
Lax as in 'relaxed'.......ech I never claim to be perfect and I like bein different. Lax-alot Pam
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by BobG on Apr 24th, 2005, 11:17pm
Thanks. I like you lax'd way of posting.  ;)
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by KingOfPain on Apr 25th, 2005, 2:24am

on 04/24/05 at 22:37:24, cootie wrote:
I didn't realize there was a code of spelling around here.....I write in LAX english shit-heads. I didn't know it wasn't legible.....actually I don't give a shit. Take what ya can understand or jus skip the rest like usual.......anyhow......they were talking in some sort of hungarian language. They'd ask me questions then discuss what I said in 'whatever' tongue......man did they ever talk fast. Yeah.....it is annoying when ya have to have not so pefect strangers over for a liveing ta sell stuff . I don't relate to everyone Pam

edit'd cuz I can't spell worse then normal cuz of a FUNK that come over me............


cootie,

I like you just the way you are.

As far as I'm concerned, those who don't
can fuck off.

 [smiley=finger.gif]
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by sandie99 on Apr 25th, 2005, 2:27am

on 04/25/05 at 02:24:31, KingOfPain wrote:
cootie,

I like you just the way you are.

As far as I'm concerned, those who don't
can fuck off.

 [smiley=finger.gif]

I think it's important to accept each other just the way we are!  [smiley=thumb.gif]
Title: Re: Answer From A Giberish Speaker
Post by KingOfPain on Apr 25th, 2005, 2:44am
And another thing,


on 04/24/05 at 19:56:48, Ueli wrote:
An alternative very flattering to all non-American posters to this board:

English / Giberish


But I'm a bit confused: Since Cootie doesn't write in English, does she write gibberish ?

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Hey Ueli,

This site was created by an American, run by
an American, located in America and supported
in part by Americans.

I am sick and tired of your bad mouthing America and Americans.

Why don't you leave and find a CH site in your
country!

Yes, English is what I speak.
And I am damn proud to be an American!

I personally have had my fill of your anti-American bullshit!

  [smiley=mad.gif]
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by taraann on Apr 25th, 2005, 2:51am
Hey Pam....you make me laugh alot...esp your tag lines
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by LeLimey on Apr 25th, 2005, 3:41am

on 04/25/05 at 02:24:31, KingOfPain wrote:
cootie,

I like you just the way you are.

As far as I'm concerned, those who don't
can fuck off.

 [smiley=finger.gif]


And a BIG ditto from me!! ('cos everyone knows I can't speak English proper like anyhow!)
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by Charlie on Apr 25th, 2005, 6:28am
Sometimes it's necessary for effective communication among those not well-versed in the native language. However, after a time this should be made clear. 5 minutes of this without some acknowledgment to others is impolite.

I wish I had learned another language though. I'm old enough to recall that some useful knowledge of French was very much encouraged here when I was in school. Today, for Americans, Spanish would seem the most useful.

Charlie
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by marty on Apr 25th, 2005, 7:11am
Did they buy a dog?

If not, I only have this to say: Forbannade skitstovlar ;;D

Marty
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by Frank_W on Apr 25th, 2005, 8:30am
Pam, I'm thinking that you're mostly angered by their rudeness and the fact that they used you and wasted your time, and no matter what culture someone comes from, there's never any excuse for rudeness.

My wife is Japanese and I am fluent in Japanese. A lot of times, when we're having a private conversation that we don't want others to overhear, we speak in Japanese. (Especially when we're discussing a high-dollar purchase in front of a high-pressure salesman, who won't give us the courtesy of leaving us alone to discuss things)

I guess I see both sides of it, but to reiterate: There's never an excuse for the kind of rudeness that these people showed you.
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by Kevin_M on Apr 25th, 2005, 8:39am

on 04/25/05 at 06:28:32, Charlie wrote:
Sometimes it's necessary for effective communication among those not well-versed in the native language. However, after a time this should be made clear. 5 minutes of this without some acknowledgment to others is impolite.



Being new immigrants, right off the boat in 1908, my grandparents spoke Italian within their families.  It did not get them far in school.  But for a long transition period both languages were spoken and now, when I've inquired with the elders, they are not sure they can even remember how to speak Italian anymore unless put again in that environment.  Fluent English for over the past 60 years.  
 Newer immigrants sometimes need the transition period because of older family values held within the home which doesn't encourage a better perfecting of their English skills, due to respect for elders within the family.  Some people wish to acclimate faster than others.
 Charlie's right about the being impolite when being among the English speaking though.  It makes you feel like you're not even there.  I usually make sure they know I am still standing there. ;)  


Kevin M
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by cootie on Apr 25th, 2005, 10:20am
Yeah that's kind of what I was gettin at with this thread.....the people were nice and all......but on the phone beforehand they COULD of asked specific questions about the pup and dog I had available.....like nose color ! Instead of comeing all this way and bein here so long then decideing  they had 'learned enuff' and didn't want a pup or dog because of nose color ? They were basicaly out and about that day....and wanting to learn how to do kennel stuff......kind of like goin to the pet store to obseve the animals and never even buy anything. Those people are paid to sit in there and put up with window shoppers. But when they come out here and ask me questions about breeding ect ect then look at each other and do the gibberish language thing it sort of bother'd me. As if they were discussing the operation 'behind my back' type of feeling. But they were nice people don't get me wrong. I get alot of people that come to get a puppy fix and I don't always have what people want. But it's pisses me off when a few pre-questions on the phone could of saved me sum wasted time with them. Guess what I am saying is PEOPLE SUCK. Well not YOU guys.....not most of you at least. And I basically type the way most people talk (for the most part but not always I agree cuz I like to fuck around with my ABC's).......gotta live here in the USA to appreciate it Pam  
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by notseinfeld on Apr 25th, 2005, 11:38am
Let's just hope they weren't mumbling anything about applesauce or stew.
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by cootie on Apr 25th, 2005, 1:09pm
I'm around alot of amish at times and when they get to doin there 'gibberish thang' I really do wonder what there saying.......not quite sure the boundries of there diets Pam

Funny at the store I see amish with carts STACKED with twinkies and snack cakes and sweet cereal. I see the amish dudes hangin around the douhnut bakery section. Cracks me up when I am at a cool store lookin at really cool clothes I see amish girls lookin at the same things. They have RAVES but have been gettin busted for them.....there allowed to kinda do what they want before the age 21 big decision, we actually ride with alot of fence jumpers. Interesting facts on a chilly day and totally off track........

I wonder if they spell better then us............sheesh
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 25th, 2005, 1:43pm

Quote:
It's plenty legible. What does LAX mean?  



 Doh!   It's a very large International airport in So. Calif.


Linda
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by Ueli on Apr 26th, 2005, 12:17am
Hey KOP,
A quote for you from the very first page of this site:

http://tinypic.com/4q554y

In no way does it exclude people of a certain race, religion, political creed, country of origin or whatever other distinction a fascist mind could think of.

You write: This site was created by an American, run by an American,.. So what? Nobody said there were no bright and well-meaning Americans.   ...  located in America ... A very important fact in the age of the world wide web!   ... and supported in part by Americans. Are you gonna reimburse the non-in-part-American supporters so you can kick them out? - All in all a very convincing introduction to your diatribe, isn't it?

I am sick and tired of your bad mouthing America and Americans.   If my little squib against a slightly xenophobic comment was such a horrendous "bad mouthing" to get you out of lurking, could you tell me what are the other instances my "bad mouthings"? KOP, have you been on crack, has your persecution mania become acute or is your paranoia running wild and lets you see phantoms around every corner? Or are you going to tell me that xenophobia is one of the cardinal virtues that are required for a good American like you?

I personally have had my fill of your anti-American bullshit!   So KOP is full of bullshit, in his own words, not mine. :P   Well, I suspected it for a long time....

Why don't you leave and find a CH site in your country!   Who the fuck do you think you are to barf up such recommendation? I'm sorry to tell you, you are alone with your spiteful opinion. Quite a few of the many nice Americans I got to know through this message board told me (by e-mails or PMs) that they enjoy my contributions and are glad I hang around here.

Yes, English is what I speak. And I am damn proud to be an American!   Everybody should love his Country, that's a good thing; and it can be done without daily flag waving. However, the inability to speak a foreign is rather to be deplored than to be proud of. It prevents you from getting acquainted with other cultures, but that is something a chauvinistic blockhead can't be bothered about.

KOP, just don't read my posts, otherwise you might blow your crown. Go back to lurking an spend more of your time on your preferred right-wing web sites.


    [smiley=moonwiggle.gif]
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by cootie on Apr 26th, 2005, 12:37am
Sigh.......nothin like a far fetched foreinger......wars are started with differences of opinions. And I never ment for anyone to take this thread to this level. Whenever there are disagreements or 'words said' people take sides and your army of darkness begins to form. I'm not gonna bash anyone........too much real pain here.......no reason to create more. I'm bigger then that Pam
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by Lizzie2 on Apr 26th, 2005, 12:59am
I think I see both sides like Frank does, too.

I speak Spanish fluently.  We had a patient come into triage in the ER tonight who couldn't speak English.  We were having a really hard time figuring out what in heck she was even there for.  

So then the Spanish side of my brain snapped into focus, and although I forget words like, "How much do you weigh?  What is your height?"  I could get the basic point across and get the info we needed from her.

I love to be able to speak languages.  I grew up speaking many different ones.

Lots of my friends make fun of me because I use words that are really not used in every-day-language much.  I have no rhyme or reason as to why except it probably comes from translating back and forth all the time.

But yes, I do agree that there are times when...if people speaking in another language blatently ignore you or you can tell they ARE, in fact, speaking about you (via nonverbal cues) - it can become very frustrating.

Hugz to you Pam.  I like yer English - and the unique way everyone "speaks" here. :)

Lizzie :)
Title: Re: English everyone ?
Post by forgetfulnot on Apr 26th, 2005, 1:04am
Send all those towel heads over to Don's, he seems to have all kinds of domestic animals, he is just at the north end of the big dig, they may, well have difficulties on ther voyage. :o

Lee


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