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(Message started by: notseinfeld on Apr 20th, 2005, 4:38pm)
Title: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by notseinfeld on Apr 20th, 2005, 4:38pm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43817
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Pinkfloyd on Apr 20th, 2005, 5:32pm
Well...that was uplifting. not[s]  :-/

I've decided to stop working early today and take my grandkids to the park.

bobw
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by ShariRae on Apr 20th, 2005, 9:22pm
Holy Crap....

ShariRae
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by cootie on Apr 20th, 2005, 11:16pm
Terrorists are like cancer......there goal is to destroy there host............the world is my host Pam
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Cerberus on Apr 21st, 2005, 12:17am
Worst case scenario?....shit.

6 minutes after detonation :

The U.S. (not knowing who the aggressors are) lauches a retalitory strike against every predominantly muslim nation on the face of the earth and "Earth" becomes a large lifeless moon."

Ramon
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by sandie99 on Apr 21st, 2005, 12:21am
it's great to live in Finland... Nobody wants to attack us... ;)
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by cootie on Apr 21st, 2005, 12:28am
Got room for me and my cats in Finland.....I'm on my way.....is it warm there......that's important too. I used to read alot of sci-fi books as a kid.......so much of it is startin to come true or risk of it. Planetary phobic Pam
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by BobG on Apr 21st, 2005, 12:48am

on 04/21/05 at 00:21:25, sandie99 wrote:
it's great to live in Finland... Nobody wants to attack us... ;)

I'd like to move to Finland but the commute to Las Vegas everyday to work would be a killer.

And nobody has ever attacked Vegas (yet).


P.S. Donuts were invented in Vegas.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 21st, 2005, 4:25am
Psycho stite. Ultra Jesusey right wing nutsos.

Nothing new. When it's near, exploit the fear.

Charlie
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by KingOfPain on Apr 21st, 2005, 8:24am

Editor's note: Written by the best-selling author of "Unfit for Command," Jerome Corsi, "Atomic Iran," WND Books' latest release, presents clear and convincing evidence of Iran's goal to acquire nuclear weapons and the risk such a scenario poses to the U.S. and the West. In this third and final excerpt from his blockbuster, Corsi presents a hair-raising description of what would happen should terrorists detonate a Tehran-inspired improvised nuclear device in Manhattan. Corsi has dubbed the hypothetical attack Operation IND.

*The key word here is hypothetical.


That's all I have to say about this topic.
I've been drug through the fire enough around
here as it is.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by rickyshot on Apr 21st, 2005, 8:34am
Finland is a Western nation and ally of the US and therefore a target for these terroists whose main goal is to destroy anything American/Western and bascially take over the world. Unless you be wanting to wear a permanent veil and be a non person the rest of your life living under a very rigid religious therocracy, you can thank God America is there to be the bad guy and do the dirty work ie fighting and war. The only reason the Carribean and Canada remain free is because of American whether they like to admit it or not. Castro would have taken over a long time ago. And Europe follows, then Asia. With much power comes much responsibility. And freedom has always come with a price and is worth defending. We take a LOT for granted and do not realize how the other half really lives in this world. .
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by pattik on Apr 21st, 2005, 9:33am

on 04/21/05 at 00:48:59, BobG wrote:
And nobody has ever attacked Vegas (yet)

Except by the Martians in "Mars Attacks". ;)

Edited to add:  Where's Dr. Strangelove when you need him?
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by pattik on Apr 21st, 2005, 2:24pm
"They all hate us anyhow, so let's drop the big one now"

Randy Newman
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 21st, 2005, 3:46pm
It's been Christian for centuries to use such old fears to keep the faithful off balance. It's good for attendance. Believe me, it doesn't approach the 50s and early 60s in the level of fear.

Bastards.

Charlie
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by notseinfeld on Apr 21st, 2005, 3:59pm
Charlie--am I hearing you correctly that you believe it's okay for Iran to develop nuclear weapons? If so, how many hours after development would you say it'd be on American shores?

I agree, certainly, about keeping the public clamoring for safety but it's always been about bogeymen in the past-(the commies are coming) --today it's folks that chop off people's heads on camera with dull instruments and strap their children w/bombs.

If al-Qaida and the other nuts attain a weapon, they're using it. Mecca be damned.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 21st, 2005, 4:09pm
It's nothing new. They may very well have it. If they want to use a dirty bomb, they don't need much. They can buy it.

All we can do is be careful but the Rat Roberstons of the world use this all the time.

Charlie
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by pattik on Apr 21st, 2005, 7:24pm

on 04/21/05 at 15:46:55, Charlie wrote:
Believe me, it doesn't approach the 50s and early 60s in the level of fear.

Old Joe McCarthy and the House Committee on Un-American Activities would have been drooling over this. Fear of the Rooskies nuking us (and visa-versa) was what many of us grew up with and endured for years.   Been there, done that.  You can't let it rule your life.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by BobG on Apr 21st, 2005, 9:57pm

on 04/21/05 at 09:33:18, pattik wrote:
Where's Dr. Strangelove when you need him?


He lives in Vegas. Next door to Elvis.

Hey Patti. Just checked out your website and am very impressed with both your biography and your work. Ya done good kid.  :D

OK folks......back to bombing the Iranians.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by nani on Apr 21st, 2005, 10:44pm
Isn't Patti's work incredible!?!   I plan on buying a few when I win the lottery.  :)
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by forgetfulnot on Apr 22nd, 2005, 12:17am
Nuke the site from orbit..................................


Lee
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by rumplestiltskin on Apr 22nd, 2005, 3:17am
freedom is free...always was ...always will be.

all the fear mongering in the world won't change that...butt feel free to rant about it...

Jesus wants us to kill every non christian cause they just don't love right.

The more bad guys ya kill...the more gooder you become...internally and internationally we are gettin gooder everyday...rejoice and be glad.

love
den
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by pattik on Apr 22nd, 2005, 9:03am

on 04/21/05 at 21:57:48, BobG wrote:
Ya done good kid.  :D
. ;;DThanks, Bob ;;D
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by maffumatt on Apr 23rd, 2005, 9:36am
The difference between communisism and islamofacism is like night and day. Communist care if they live or die, islamofacisist do not care, if they or the community they live  is bombed to dust in retaliation,  they dont care because they will be in heaven with their virgins. If Iran gets the bomb, they will use it on Isreal. They proclaim their intentions about the destruction of Isreal, and the west, at every chance. If you think Iran needs a nuclear power plant for electricity as they say, well there is no reasoning with you. If they get it, they will use it. Go ahead and keep your head in the sand, that will protect you.
As for Jesus wanting us to kill the bad guys. Read you Bible. I doubt you have one but they dont cost much. I dont see many Christians calling for the downfall Iran or any other Islamic country. I do see alot of Islamic Extremist killing in the name of Allah:
Armed Islamic Group
Salafist Group for Call and Combat
Islamic Jihad
Islamic Tha’r Allah Organization Yusuf Sinadi `Abd al-Wahid  
Islamic Army for Infadia
When it does happen, and it will if they get the chance, its funny that that the people that are saying that its the  right wing nuts trying to scare people, will be the ones saying our goverment failed to protect us. That its Bushs fault. Our intelligence failed us. Ect....
Freedom is not free. It may be for you, because you dont pay, but don't forget about the people that did pay for it.  Well I guess you already have. Islam is a religion of peace, that is only if you are a muslim, and if you are in that particular sect of islam that the speaker is part of. If not your as much of an Infidel as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by maffumatt on Apr 23rd, 2005, 9:40am
Qur’an 8:65 “O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels [all non-Muslims] are a people devoid of understanding.” Qur’an 47:4 “Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.” Qur’an 4:102  “For the Unbelieving Infidels Allah hath prepared a humiliating punishment.” Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.” Qur’an 8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels out to the last.’” Qur’an 8:58 “The unbelieving infidels should not think that they can bypass Islam; surely they cannot escape.” Ishaq:601 “The best men launch spears as if they were swords. They peer forward unweariedly. They devote their lives to their Prophet. ... (T)hey purify themselves with the blood of the infidels. They consider that an act of piety.”


BUt then again you can put your heads back in the sand and expect others to protect you and your rights. That is your choice, your right. This is what the Extremist believe. not all muslims but alot. You can flame me all you want, but the truth is the truth no matter what think of me. I can take your insults because they show your lack of comprehension, if something that is said doesn't agree with you beliefs, it must be wrong, racist, Right wing lunacy, or whatever your favorite term of the day is. Wake up and look at the real world as it is, not as you wish it to be.

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm
just because someone writes it doesn't mean its the truth
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 23rd, 2005, 2:04pm
It's Dick Cheny and the new Pope that see the world in such black and white terms. Even George Bush and Tony Blair do not.

Charlie
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by maffumatt on Apr 23rd, 2005, 2:27pm
Its not Dick Cheny or the Pope that I worry about Charlie, its people who think the way that you and the terrorist think. Everyone else is wrong and you are right. Do a search of your posts, they speak volumes.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 23rd, 2005, 2:55pm
My posts are dull.

It's useless to succumb to that kind of fear. Might as well blow your head off.

It's the quiet guys that bit you on the ash anyway.

Charlie
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by KingOfPain on Apr 23rd, 2005, 3:05pm

on 04/23/05 at 09:40:19, maffumatt wrote:
Qur’an 8:65 “O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels [all non-Muslims] are a people devoid of understanding.” Qur’an 47:4 “Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.” Qur’an 4:102  “For the Unbelieving Infidels Allah hath prepared a humiliating punishment.” Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.” Qur’an 8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels out to the last.’” Qur’an 8:58 “The unbelieving infidels should not think that they can bypass Islam; surely they cannot escape.” Ishaq:601 “The best men launch spears as if they were swords. They peer forward unweariedly. They devote their lives to their Prophet. ... (T)hey purify themselves with the blood of the infidels. They consider that an act of piety.”



Thank you maffumatt.

This is a Holy War to them.
Death to all who do not follow the faith.

Qur’an 47:4 “Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.”

September 11th, 2001 was proof.

They will not rest until all infidels are eliminated.
=======================================
Jihad
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=Jihad&x=10&y=10

One entry found for jihad.

Main Entry: ji·had
Variant(s): also je·had /ji-'häd, chiefly Brit -'had/
Function: noun
Etymology: Arabic jihAd
1 : a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty; also : a personal struggle in devotion to Islam especially involving spiritual discipline
2 : a crusade for a principle or belief
=======================================
The sooner the American public understands this,
the better.

It is not over, not by a long shot.

Wake up America, get off your apathetic asses
and do something!
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by pattik on Apr 23rd, 2005, 3:21pm

on 04/23/05 at 14:27:19, maffumatt wrote:
Its not Dick Cheny or the Pope that I worry about Charlie, its people who think the way that you and the terrorist think. Everyone else is wrong and you are right.

My, my, aren't we thin-skinned. ;)  Yep, just group me right in with those naughty terrorists too ;;D  I don't think anyone is thinking that this war on terrorism will be short or easy, but you haven't lived long enough (sorry) to have enough perspective.  Neither have I, actually.  All I am saying is that fear begets fear, and making personal attacks like the one that I have quoted says to me that you are aiming your anger at the wrong target.  Have a nice day ;;D
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by maffumatt on Apr 23rd, 2005, 3:43pm
Do a search of your posts, they speak volumes.

You forgot this part. Its all there to be read.

If this is taken as a personal shot Charlie, I'm sorry I offended you.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Jonny on Apr 23rd, 2005, 3:50pm

on 04/23/05 at 09:36:21, maffumatt wrote:
The difference between communisism and islamofacism is like night and day. Communist care if they live or die, islamofacisist do not care, if they or the community they live  is bombed to dust in retaliation,  they dont care because they will be in heaven with their virgins. If Iran gets the bomb, they will use it on Isreal. They proclaim their intentions about the destruction of Isreal, and the west, at every chance. If you think Iran needs a nuclear power plant for electricity as they say, well there is no reasoning with you. If they get it, they will use it. Go ahead and keep your head in the sand, that will protect you.
As for Jesus wanting us to kill the bad guys. Read you Bible. I doubt you have one but they dont cost much. I dont see many Christians calling for the downfall Iran or any other Islamic country. I do see alot of Islamic Extremist killing in the name of Allah:
Armed Islamic Group
Salafist Group for Call and Combat
Islamic Jihad
Islamic Tha’r Allah Organization Yusuf Sinadi `Abd al-Wahid  
Islamic Army for Infadia
When it does happen, and it will if they get the chance, its funny that that the people that are saying that its the  right wing nuts trying to scare people, will be the ones saying our goverment failed to protect us. That its Bushs fault. Our intelligence failed us. Ect....
Freedom is not free. It may be for you, because you dont pay, but don't forget about the people that did pay for it.  Well I guess you already have. Islam is a religion of peace, that is only if you are a muslim, and if you are in that particular sect of islam that the speaker is part of. If not your as much of an Infidel as the rest of us.


Totaly fucking agree!!!!
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 23rd, 2005, 4:13pm

Quote:
Do a search of your posts, they speak volumes.
You forgot this part. Its all there to be read.


I would be dead or at least bored to death if I read all my posts.

It's not the mullahs who will thow the bombs, it would  be the bin Ladens. Scary shit because it's impossible to stop.

Charlie
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by forgetfulnot on Apr 23rd, 2005, 4:45pm
Charlie wrote:

Quote:
I would be dead or at least bored to death if I read all my posts.


I think it would be funny as hell Charlie but I have never been able to get that feature to work, it justs sits there.

Lee
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 23rd, 2005, 4:57pm
Lucky you Lee.
We really got going before. Thankfully, we've been good at keeping down the lengthy diatribes. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/soapbox.gif
Going back for the humor is fun though. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/reader.gif

This always gets me there: http://www.clusterheadaches.com/archives.html

Charlie  
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by maffumatt on Apr 23rd, 2005, 4:57pm
charlie,
Its not boreing, as a matter of fact there is alot of funny shit out there. And you do make some good points. Some I agree with most I dont, but still some funny shit. This board would be boreing without you.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 23rd, 2005, 5:02pm
I read some of my early stuff long ago. Some of it's okay. A lot is outdated or silly..at least to me.

Geeze, I'm nowhere near Jonny but I've been yakking a lot. It would be boring without you too. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/hammer.gif

Charlie
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by BobG on Apr 23rd, 2005, 8:51pm

on 04/23/05 at 16:13:18, Charlie wrote:
I would be dead or at least bored to death if I read all my posts.

Charlie

Now that's funny! [smiley=crackup.gif]

Are we going to get around to killing Iranians or do I have time to go get a donut? I have a headache.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by nani on Apr 23rd, 2005, 8:53pm

on 04/23/05 at 20:51:10, BobG wrote:
Now that's funny! [smiley=crackup.gif]

Are we going to get around to killing Iranians or do I have time to go get a donut? I have a headache.


There's always time to get a donut, Bob.    ;)
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 24th, 2005, 1:28am
There must be an Iranian running a donut shop around here.
Charlie http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/GLOM.gif
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Frank_W on Apr 25th, 2005, 10:04am
Matt, Charlie and I have disagreed on a few occasions, politically, but Charlie's one of the nicest people here, and definitely a good guy to hang out with, if you get the chance to meet him.

We all come from different walks of life, different backgrounds, and different experiences. Diversity is the spice of life. In the end, we're all just people doing the best we can with the tools we have, with our own sets of weaknesses and strengths.

And anyway, it's just the internet...  :P
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by notseinfeld on Apr 25th, 2005, 4:39pm
Update: from Congressional Hearing

"An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack on the American homeland, said one of the distinguished scientists who testified at the hearing, is one of only a few ways that the United States could be defeated by its enemies – terrorist or otherwise," wrote Kyl "And it is probably the easiest. A single Scud missile, carrying a single nuclear weapon, detonated at the appropriate altitude, would interact with the Earth's atmosphere, producing an electromagnetic pulse radiating down to the surface at the speed of light. Depending on the location and size of the blast, the effect would be to knock out already stressed power grids and other electrical systems across much or even all of the continental United States, for months if not years."

The purpose of an EMP attack, unlike a nuclear attack on land, is not to kill people, but "to kill electrons," as Graham explained. He serves as chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack and was director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and science adviser to the president during the Reagan administration.

Graham told WorldNetDaily he could think of no other reason for Iran to be experimenting with mid-air detonation of missiles than for the planning of an EMP-style attack.


Poster's Note:
If this happens we'll all be incommunicado here at CH.com for a looooooooong time!
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by maffumatt on Apr 25th, 2005, 5:23pm
I have not nor will I show anyone on this board any disrespect, my comment was refering to his mode of thinking. I did not call him a terrorist.

Charlie is always right. Just ask him. I'm sure he will confirm this.

How old do you have to be to have a perspective? Perhaps the fact that I have worked on or about military installations most of my adult life, and the fact that terrorism affects my everyday life at work, has given me a different perspective. Knowing the the stuff I move on a daily basis will kill someone in the near future, or protect an american life, gives me a personal perspective. Maybe it was the two funerals that I attended gives me a different perspective. Looking at my two children, and worrying about their future, gives me a perspective. Growing up as a child of a disabled vet has too. I want more for my children.

Sorry Frank that wasn't pointed at you. I had thought that I had already given an apology to Charlie. Perhaps I should have worded my response better, or even better I should have kept my opinion to myself.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 25th, 2005, 5:27pm
This isn't what was know as "ionize the atmosphere" is it?  I remember that from the 1960s, I forgot if it was more than a legend or worth worrying about.  

Help me out Ueli. It's been 40 years..

Charlie
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Big Dan on Apr 25th, 2005, 6:35pm

Quote:
Let's Bomb Iran, NOW


Nah, let the Jews do it...

... they didn't even get any of Iraq during the past 2 wars, so you know they're chompin' at the bit for this one.



-Big Boom
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by don on Apr 25th, 2005, 6:37pm
I remember seeing an old navy training film somewhere.

Advised crewman to duck and cover if they saw a bright flash of light.

If your close enough to see it.........You aint going to see it.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by floridian on Apr 25th, 2005, 6:38pm
It will be a cake walk.  The people of that country will greet us as liberators.  It will bring peace and prosperity to the Middle East.  

</sarcasm off>
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by don on Apr 25th, 2005, 6:43pm
Thousand points of light.

Also known as tracers.
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by ghost62 on Apr 25th, 2005, 6:49pm
Tracers work both ways though ;;D
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Jonny on Apr 25th, 2005, 8:10pm
Kinda funny how the Kerry-ite idiots who are all ass hurt that their horse didnt come in last november would gladly let these sand chimps get away with gunning down unarmed civilians, and pull our troops out, just to spite the president's agenda. *looks in a certain mods direction who loves to bait conservative posters*
       
Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by floridian on Apr 25th, 2005, 9:06pm

on 04/25/05 at 20:10:18, Jonny wrote:
Kinda funny how the Kerry-ite idiots who are all ass hurt that their horse didnt come in last november would gladly let these sand chimps get away with gunning down unarmed civilians, and pull our troops out, just to spite the president's agenda. *looks in a certain mods direction who loves to bait conservative posters*
       


Yeah, like you were upset when Regean and company sold weapons to the embassy-takeover terrorists in Iran to get money to give to nun-raping terrorists in Nicaragua and El Salvador.  And the right-wingers were so moved to action when Croats and Bosnians were being slaughtered in the collapsing Yugoslavia - we surely didn't see conservatives opposing that just because they didn't like Bill Clinton, or because they didn't want to spend US resources on what they described as other people's problems.  But now you tell us things are different ... this time it REALLY is about oil and power principles and justice.  

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Title: Re: Let's Bomb Iran, NOW
Post by Charlie on Apr 25th, 2005, 11:24pm
Let's see.... 20th century war Presidents:

WWI: Woodrow Wilson

WWII: Franklin Roosevelt

Korean War: Harry Truman

Vietnam: John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson

All Democrats.


Ron Reagan bodly invaded Grenada.

George Bush 1st left Saddam in Iraq for ten years so we and the British could have fun another day.

Frightened people terrified of homosexual weddings and abortion re-elected Bush.  Democrats have accounted themselves very well.

Charlie


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