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Title: The Pope is dead Post by Svenn on Apr 2nd, 2005, 6:32pm The Pope is dead May him rest in peace My symphaties to all the catolics Svenn |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Lizzie2 on Apr 2nd, 2005, 6:44pm "May flights of angels sing thee to thy rest."~Song for Athene :'( Very sad day... |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Charlie on Apr 2nd, 2005, 7:17pm I'll give him this: Not matter what your beliefs, the guy was consistent. That's refreshing to me anyway. Charlie |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by don on Apr 2nd, 2005, 7:23pm Quote:
Consistant? I think tenacious is a better description. That man struck fear in the hearts of our less than peaceful global leaders. The guy stuck to his guns. |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by TomM on Apr 2nd, 2005, 7:26pm My ship is without a Captain.... :'( TomM |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by stevegeebe on Apr 2nd, 2005, 7:50pm No thing waters like rain. Steve G |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by cootie on Apr 2nd, 2005, 9:45pm Been wonderin....who takes his place ? How do they figure that and do they have a few to pick from.....wonder'd how they decided....or who did. Big feet to fill Pam |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by don on Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:08pm The college of cardinals meet in conclave in the Sistine Chapel within 20 days after the death to ballot on a new Pope. After each ballot they, the ballots, are sewn together and burned. Special chemicles are used to produce white or black smoke. White smoke from the flue of the chapel indicates a new Pope has been chosen. Any baptized Catholic male may be elected pope. Except Jonny. |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Jonny on Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:15pm Black smoke indicates that Don has been chosen pope ;;D |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by don on Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:17pm I think they do a background check. I'm out. |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by cootie on Apr 2nd, 2005, 11:25pm so if we set someone on fire are they pope material....I know....depends on the color of the fire. Where there's smoke there's a pope Pam PS: NOT makein fun of the pope jus fer yer information......jus so ya know........... |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by TomM on Apr 2nd, 2005, 11:32pm on 04/02/05 at 22:08:52, don wrote:
And Pope John PaullII chose all but three of the Cardinals who will be in conclave. I think the number of Cardinals meeting is 117 and a 2/3 majority is needed for election. |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Kirk on Apr 2nd, 2005, 11:51pm So long and thanks for all the fish |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Lizzie2 on Apr 3rd, 2005, 12:03am I was baptized catholic, and I went through all the sacraments on the path that I was following...through confirmation. I'm not married which comes next....nor am I dying (or never have been in imminent fear of death!), so I've never received last rites. When I was younger, my future goal was to become a nun. I'm not kidding...I have it in a time capsule that I made at a retreat when I was in 6th grade! We were "required" to go to CCD until confirmation, which was in 6th grade in my church, but I continued to go until 9th grade. I remember that the church was recruiting us young'uns to go to a pro-life march, and I had wanted to go just because it was through the church. My mom told me at the time that she wouldn't allow me to go and that someday when I was old enough to understand and make the decision for myself, then I could choose to go or not, but she wouldn't let me go then. I'm glad she didn't. Over time, I left the church...then I'd go back...then sort of drift off again. This was mostly during college at Penn State. I attended a methodist church, and then with my choir I jumped around churches so much. So there was one thing I was thinking about today (and why this rambling story has some sort of meaning...to me at least!) I don't agree with many "stances" the catholic church takes. I'm pro-choice; I think gay marriage is okay; I don't think being divorced sends you to the firey pit of hell; I'm for birth control, and on and on! These are all decisions that I made for myself as I grew up and looked inward to find my true beliefs. However, through all of that...I remained Catholic. What strikes me as the greatest thing about Pope John Paul II was exactly what Don and a couple of others stated above. He was extremely tenacious until the end about keeping the traditions of the church. Of course, some views changed as very old traditions that did not make sense were eliminated once in awhile, but all in all, the Pope really stuck to the strong beliefs of the Catholic church. I've always found great comfort that, despite how much this world changes every day, the church has been a place of strong structure and belief...it isn't going anywhere. I'm sure some would disagree with what I wrote here, but that's one of the reasons I feel such great loss with the death of the Pope. I haven't connected strongly with the Catholic church in some time, but for one, Pope John Paul II was the pope for my entire lifetime, and it is like the loss of something I've felt strength and comfort in for my entire life. Does anyone remember Bishop Fulton Sheen? I think it was a few years ago that he was canonized as a saint in the church. He actually was a member of my family. His brother was married to my great aunt. I know when my parents got married, he offered to perform the ceremonies for the wedding, but (and he understood this), my parents declined because everyone was concerned that with such a high figure doing the ceremony, the focus would drift from the wedding to being at a ceremony with such a man as Bishop Sheen! Anyways...I digress... Whether or not I have ever agreed with the issues of the catholic church, today was a great loss. Pope John Paul II was right up there with the greatest spiritual leaders that we've ever had in the history of this world. Godspeed |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Mr. Happy on Apr 3rd, 2005, 12:33am Cheez, Liz. I thought you were Jewish. To the first Polish Pope, and the man who brought us the PopeMobile. RJ |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Lizzie2 on Apr 3rd, 2005, 12:35am on 04/03/05 at 00:33:29, Mr. Happy wrote:
LOL Randy....it's in my family, too. My uncle is from Israel, and we have this whole part of my family from Israel who are Jewish...so you could say it's also been a big part of my cultural soup. But I've been Catholic since birth...give or take a few pilgrimmages to check out other churches! ;-) Lizzie :) |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by BobG on Apr 3rd, 2005, 5:24am I believe Pope John Paul II will go down in history as one of the greatest leaders the world has known. He had an amazing life. R.I.P. John Paul. |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Mr. Happy on Apr 3rd, 2005, 5:35am on 04/03/05 at 05:24:24, BobG wrote:
No kidding. I wouldn't want his job.....but then again, I wouldn't want Anybody's job. I'm not much on Popes, but didn't the one before him have a limited warrenty....3 years or so? Old JP2 has been at the helm since Carter was president. That's a long time for a good man. Praise Wotan. RJ |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by karma on Apr 3rd, 2005, 8:20am Hopefully his predecessor will have a better grasp of reality. I was raised Catholic so I have a right to say the following. Some Legacy Still No possibility for women priests, Bishops or Cardinals No to abortion under any circumatances Inexcusbale coverup of priests wrongdoings Tradition is good but change is inevitable. May He Rest in Peace (this part is sincere) |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Jonny on Apr 3rd, 2005, 9:34am on 04/03/05 at 05:35:00, Mr. Happy wrote:
More like 33 days ;;D |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by don on Apr 3rd, 2005, 2:11pm Quote:
It is more than just tradition it is Catholic doctrine. I dont agree with it but thats why I admired the guy. He did agree with it and wouldn't budge. |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Charlie on Apr 3rd, 2005, 2:22pm Quote:
Oh yeah. You can see him now and then...weekends, probably on the Catholic Channel. It's still called "Life Is Worth Living." Everybody watched him in the 50s scribble on his blackboard and get chalk all over this clothes. My kind of guy. I still watch him when I find him. Charlie |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by don on Apr 3rd, 2005, 3:14pm Quote:
Come to think of it ....ALL of them are. |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Jonny on Apr 3rd, 2005, 4:12pm on 04/03/05 at 15:14:10, don wrote:
Not our Pope Tangle ;;D http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da22b3127cce9159ae239a4100000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by don on Apr 3rd, 2005, 6:33pm Quote:
I've seen two of them. One in Rome. It was playing Mary Had a Little Lamb and some guy was selling Gellato out of it. One in the Dominican Republic playing Tijuana Taxi and selling Coco Frio. Proceeds going the the Boston Clergy Legal Defense Fund and a portion to "Neverland Ranch". |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by sandie99 on Apr 4th, 2005, 2:51am I'm not Catholic, but hearning the news was still sad... :( |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by ClusterChuck on Apr 6th, 2005, 3:18am I am not catholic, but I respected this man a great deal. He brought some great changes to the church. He brought the catholic church closer to the Jews and other non-catholics. A very great man. But, the above being said, I can only hope that the new pope has a bigger set of 'nads, and brings the catholic church into modern times. If they want to survive and prosper, drastic changes need to be made: - Allow priests to marry - Accept women into the priesthood - Quit banning birth control - Accept GLBT's (gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgender) - Take a MUCH stronger, and public stand AGAINST child molestation by priests and nuns But the world has lost a great man, leader and peace maker. Chuck |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Charlie on Apr 6th, 2005, 4:24pm You're right Chuck Charlie |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by BobG on Apr 7th, 2005, 3:48am As I said before I have great respect for Pope John Paul II. He was a world leader. But, Why are all the flags at half staff? I'm not complaining, just wondering. |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by sandie99 on Apr 7th, 2005, 1:19pm Anybody going to Vatican? |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Charlie on Apr 7th, 2005, 1:28pm An awful lot of people with questionable records for peacekeeping attend this peacemaker's funeral. Charlie |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 7th, 2005, 1:53pm on 04/07/05 at 13:28:17, Charlie wrote:
Were they supposed to have submitted their resumes before attending the funeral, and received approval prior to attending? And while he was hailed a great peacemaker, there was very little decrease in the number of wars that occurred during his "watch" over the flock. I have respect for this man as a pope, but while he had great success in converting millions in the third world, his record in Europe and the West was one of a church in decline, where the cathedrals and church's in much of the West have become "museums" instead of places of active praise. God Bless John Paul II and may he rest in peace, and may the church pick up and move on from this time in history with as many goals as they have ideals. |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Charlie on Apr 7th, 2005, 5:30pm Quote:
This is a good sign in the long run. Charlie |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Frank_W on Apr 7th, 2005, 8:41pm What need is there for churches and cathedrals, or even religion? If God is all-loving, and God is omniscient and omnipresent, then the WHOLE WORLD is a cathedral, and the very ground we each stand on is holy ground. That said, I recognize that the Pope was a beloved spiritual leader to so many people the world over, and to those people who are grieving, I offer my sincere condolences and compassion. Peace & Strength, -Frank |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Jonny on Apr 7th, 2005, 8:50pm The dude hid pee pee smokers....check cardinal Berard Law.....Mafioso of the pee pee smokers Give me a fucking break here !!!!! |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by BarbaraG on Apr 7th, 2005, 9:17pm Jonny,???what are pee pee smokers??? BarbG |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Charlie on Apr 8th, 2005, 2:19am Bill Maher, on his HBO show displayed a picture of some kind of meeting of religious leaders from most every fatih, all wearing funny hats. It was taken somewhere in the middle east. These guys hate everything about the other's beliefs and culture. There is only one thing these seven twerps agree on: They hate Gays. Charlie |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Mr. Happy on Apr 8th, 2005, 2:34am on 04/07/05 at 20:41:41, Frank_W wrote:
Such thinking is bad for economy, nationalism, regionalism, government, and the war effort in general. Grab a holy book in one hand, a flag in the other, and get with the program. Say no to shrooms. Kudzu too, probably. RJ |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Frank_W on Apr 8th, 2005, 8:46am on 04/08/05 at 02:34:55, Mr. Happy wrote:
Yeah, well.... I'm not much of an "-ism" kind of guy. Give my regards to Wotan. ;;D [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: The Pope is dead Post by Ree on Apr 8th, 2005, 11:13pm on 04/07/05 at 20:41:41, Frank_W wrote:
agree........ I loved John Paul the Pope, the poet and the human that he was...... ever forgiving..... and real. Lets let him rest in peace, with his family. hey jonny move over so I dont get hit with the lightning bolts coming through the ceiling to get ya... lolol... be well all........ |
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