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(Message started by: Annette_Emond on Mar 1st, 2005, 6:24pm)
Title: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Annette_Emond on Mar 1st, 2005, 6:24pm
and today I went and bought some for Dave. I will be keeping a diary so that I can post into Floridian's survey thread at the end of one week.   Wish us luck! We could sure use some.

Tues. March 1, 2005 @ 3:30pm
Dave has been in really rough shape for days.  Unable to eat, sleep, or do anything because of the severe pain he is in with headaches, as well as whole body muscle pain, and chronic nausea.   Took  2 Natures Way Kudzu root @ 613mg each.  
Will dose again at 10pm and repeat dosage 3x daily.  Total daily dosage will be 3678mg.
If any relief at all is obtained, will continue for one week before making any adjustments.  
 
If this works, whoever discovered it had better be there the next time I make it to a gathering of the clan, and had better be ready to be hugged to the point of a near death experience!
Fingers crossed in Denver... Annette :)
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by ClusterChuck on Mar 1st, 2005, 6:27pm
Annette, I have my fingers, toes, eyes, and even my testicles crossed!!!  Here's hoping it gives Dave some much deserved PF time!!!

You two are still in my prayers!!!

Chuck
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Annette_Emond on Mar 1st, 2005, 6:36pm
LOL Chuck!  Thanks for the visual ! :D
You're right tho..  he really needs a break and if this works it will be a small miracle, but for some reason, I have a really good feeling about it.
Annette
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Charlie on Mar 1st, 2005, 7:18pm

Quote:
Annette, I have my fingers, toes, eyes, and even my testicles crossed!!!

Well that explains a lot, not everything but a lot.   8) :o

Good luck Annette and let us know......

Charlie  
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Tiannia on Mar 1st, 2005, 7:22pm
Good Luck Annette.... and Dave....  [[[[VIBES]]]]

Please keep us posted.  That does seem like a higher dose then others are taking.  Where did you come up with that dosage?

PF Wishes and rest to you and Dave.
-Tia
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by nani on Mar 1st, 2005, 7:24pm
My bottle says I can safely take up to 4500 mgs a day. I started much lower for 2 reasons:
1. If I can keep it cheap, that's good
2. If I need to add later, I have a lot of room to do so.
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Annette_Emond on Mar 1st, 2005, 7:29pm
The label says..  50 caps certified 613mg with 1mg Diadzin
Recommendation: Take 2 caps three times per day
Serving size: 2 caps
I'm assuming 6 caps x 613 = 3678mg total per day
I failed math in high school, but the calculator says I'm right...  am I wrong?  Is this too much?   others are taking 750 mg tabs?  Standardization is sometimes a good thing.  

Annette
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by nani on Mar 1st, 2005, 7:33pm
No, you're right Annette. If you want to start at that dose, it's certainly OK. I started at 750 mgs a day and added another 750 mgs a day 2 weeks later. I found relief the NEXT day after I started. I wasn't suffering as badly as Dave is, so it would be OK to start higher. You may want to start slower only to leave room to keep on increasing if necessary. I'm sure keeping my fingers crossed...I can't really cross much else.
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by JDH on Mar 1st, 2005, 9:20pm

on 03/01/05 at 18:24:42, Annette_Emond wrote:

If this works, whoever discovered it had better be there the next time I make it to a gathering of the clan, and had better be ready to be hugged to the point of a near death experience!
Fingers crossed in Denver... Annette :)


Wasn't it Floridian who first started talking about Kudzu?

Ditto what Chuck said Annette. Everythings crossed here in St Louis.

Jim
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by PrettyH8Machine on Mar 2nd, 2005, 12:29am
I hope this helps Dave. Crossing everything including eyes here.

Sending prayers, vibes, and anything else you guys may need.

Carl D
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by sandie99 on Mar 2nd, 2005, 1:12am
My fingers are crossed! :)
Good luck!
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Svenn on Mar 2nd, 2005, 3:27am
Annette, I have my fingers  crossed
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by vietvet2tours on Mar 2nd, 2005, 11:19am
Kudzu is simply a root starch.My wife had bad reflux,gerd and a precancerous esophagus.She went to a nutritionist,acupuncturist who administered a series of needle treatments and bag after bag( Ad Nauseum) of Chinese herbs.One of the treatments was daily doses of Kudzu I also went thru a series of needle treatments for my clusters. The needles the herbs and the Kudzu worked like a charm for my wife.The needles worked  like a charm for me and I went eight years pain free until this year when the bastage returned. We been using kudzu in our everyday cooking as a thickener for gravy,sauces.pudding, and so forth. You can buy it by the five pound box online,and I don't think you can od. on the stuff.So was it acupuncture or the Kudzu that kept me pf for eight years? Beats me, but if they would have stayed away I wouldn't have found this site, found out about oxygen(thank the gods),or met you fine folks.
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Alien Space Babe on Mar 2nd, 2005, 12:05pm
Everything is crossed here, too....
Hope this brings some relief....

(((((DAVE & ANNETTE)))))
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Frank_W on Mar 2nd, 2005, 12:17pm
I haven't figured out how to cross my testicles, (thank god) but I'm hoping the kudzu brings you some relief, Dave.

Hang in there, Dave & Annette!! Love ya's! [smiley=hug.gif]

-Frank
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by floridian on Mar 2nd, 2005, 1:46pm

on 03/02/05 at 11:19:30, vietvet2tours wrote:
Kudzu is simply a root starch.My wife had bad reflux,gerd and a precancerous esophagus.She went to a nutritionist,acupuncturist who administered a series of needle treatments and bag after bag( Ad Nauseum) of Chinese herbs.One of the treatments was daily doses of Kudzu I also went thru a series of needle treatments for my clusters. The needles the herbs and the Kudzu worked like a charm for my wife.The needles worked  like a charm for me and I went eight years pain free until this year when the bastage returned. We been using kudzu in our everyday cooking as a thickener for gravy,sauces.pudding, and so forth. You can buy it by the five pound box online,and I don't think you can od. on the stuff.So was it acupuncture or the Kudzu that kept me pf for eight years? Beats me, but if they would have stayed away I wouldn't have found this site, found out about oxygen(thank the gods),or met you fine folks.


Kudzu starch is NOT the same as kudzu root.  To make the cooking starch, the root is ground up and washed.  The washing removes most of the active ingredients - the daidzin and puerarin dissolve in water and are flushed away, while the starch settles to the bottom and is dried for kitchen use.  Maybe a little of the active ingredient is in the starch, but not much.  
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by vietvet2tours on Mar 2nd, 2005, 2:30pm
Then maybe it was the acupuncture and not the gravy.
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by floridian on Mar 2nd, 2005, 2:59pm

on 03/02/05 at 14:30:27, vietvet2tours wrote:
Then maybe it was the acupuncture and not the gravy.


Well, maybe they were using whole kudzu root powder, not the purified starch, I don't know.  Just pointing out that there are different products out there - go with the root or root extract (or root+flower).  Purified starch is less effective.
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Hirvimaki on Mar 2nd, 2005, 3:12pm
Fingers crossed.

I use the extract. Put the drops under my tongue. I've been PF since I started, so here's hoping it keeps up!!

Hirvimaki-Isi
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Leesa on Mar 2nd, 2005, 3:18pm
AMEN to what Chuck said but I dont have the testies to cross though.  ;) But heres hoping this gives Dave and You some well deserved PF time.
In my prayers, Leesa  :-*
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by vietvet2tours on Mar 2nd, 2005, 3:26pm
No I agree with ya floridian,never occured to me that my white powder ain't the same as kudzu root. Doh. Are them drops nasty tastin?
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Annette_Emond on Mar 2nd, 2005, 11:31pm
hmmmmm....  very minor reduction in intensity of shadows, so far no relief on number or intensity of actual hits.  Dave has so much else going on though that we aren't really expecting the 24 hour turnaround others are getting-  will keep hopeful and keep dosing.    
Thanks for all the good wishes coming in.
:-/ Annette
Title: Re: I've been following the kudzu threads....
Post by Gator on Mar 2nd, 2005, 11:38pm
Crossing fingers and hoping for the best.  Lord knows y'all deserve a break.


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