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Title: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 22nd, 2005, 12:27am ...seen the kudzu thread, you should. Read it through. It may help you. Really. :) http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=medsarchive2005;action=display;num=1107368408 |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Cathi04 on Feb 22nd, 2005, 1:02am Nani, thank you for this! I havent a clue where it is gonna go.........would seem like Kudzu is worth a look-see......and it seems ....ohh, listen to me-I sound like a skeptic, dont I???? Simply said, I am glad for all of you who are having PF days! Thrilled, overjoyed, pleased as punch!!!!!! Anyone else want to jump on the guinea-pig bandwagon?????? Floridian, thank you for all your research, and Pinkfloyd......WOW.....have ya taken a look>??????????? CHUCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK>.check it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keeping one set of fingers crossed!!!!!!!!! Cathi |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Langa on Feb 22nd, 2005, 3:27am I'm waiting for Eddie to get me some at the harvest...then i'll be buying some rolling paper ::) Wanna have a kudzu smoking party? ;;D Seriously, Nani, glad this has helped you as i'm sure it will help many others. ;) Langa |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by trouble on Feb 22nd, 2005, 8:13am Its not fair, Nani you know why? Hey, what are the side effects if any???? Like are you on the toliet all day? |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 22nd, 2005, 8:31am My only side effect has been a good mood and extreme productivity. ;;D Trouble...come waltzing in here and telling me it's not fair?...Why, I oughta kick ... ;) Cathi, I understand why we'd be skeptical. But so far...sooo good. I woke up with a k4 shadow today, and thought...f*ck...it stopped working... but the shadow lasted all of 5 minutes. ;;D |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Cathi04 on Feb 22nd, 2005, 10:33am Nani....not skeptical, actually, simply cautiously optimistic....waiting for the skeptics to arrive! Personally, I am THRILLED you have had such success! Waiting for more to look into it!!! Cathi |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 22nd, 2005, 11:08am on 02/22/05 at 10:33:25, Cathi04 wrote:
Now that you mention it, I'm waiting for someone to come along and say that if I'm getting relief from Chinese medicine, I must not have CH. ::) Sorry for the misunderstanding, Cathi. Frankly, I was even skeptical at first. [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by sandie99 on Feb 22nd, 2005, 12:36pm okay, i'll check it out now. i have skipped it so far... ;;D |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by clarence on Feb 22nd, 2005, 12:46pm on 02/22/05 at 11:08:48, nani wrote:
Maybe you don't really have CH... ;;D Casey Who, is on day 6 of Kudzu... |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by sandie99 on Feb 22nd, 2005, 2:22pm I checked, I can get kudzu from Finland. It's kudzu strong in here! :) |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 22nd, 2005, 9:55pm Bumping....to spread the good news. ;;D |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 23rd, 2005, 9:43am Bumping again....Now I understand how evangelists feel. |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Hirvimaki on Feb 23rd, 2005, 9:54am on 02/23/05 at 09:43:30, nani wrote:
And prostitutes... ;) Hirvimaki-Isi |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Cathi04 on Feb 23rd, 2005, 9:58am Evangelists or prostitutes, makes no difference to me, as long as people are using this stuff and finding relief!!!!!!!!! How's the unoffficial study going, Nani??????????? [smiley=shore.gif] [smiley=shore.gif] [smiley=shore.gif] Cathi |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 23rd, 2005, 10:02am Hirvi ... [smiley=tongue2.gif] LOL Cathi...it's going great! I had a tension headache yesterday and it really bugged me. I've gotten used to almost PF and I'm becoming a wimp I guess. ;) 2 Advils and I was back to my normal, opinionated, annoying self. Life is good. :) |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by sandie99 on Feb 23rd, 2005, 10:07am Nani, I bought some kutzu today.... :) |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Pinkfloyd on Feb 23rd, 2005, 10:57am on 02/22/05 at 01:02:22, Cathi04 wrote:
Yes, I've been keeping a close eye on things. Very interesting. Trying got figure out what a Kip 4 shadow is, but.. So far so good. Looks promising at this early stage. Strange that another natural (cheap) headache reliever shows good results (what was that 70% help on migraines?) doesn't get any publicity and is buried away somewhere. One of those things that makes ya go hmmmm. Bobw |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 23rd, 2005, 11:07am Bob...a shadow, for me, is when it comes on slower and is duller that a hit. I describe it as someone slowly shoving a baseball behind my eye and it sits there for awhile. A hit is sharper (like a sword) comes on much more quickly and ends sooner. I can shadow for 4 hours...a hit only lasts about 45 mins. |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Sean_C on Feb 23rd, 2005, 3:30pm on 02/22/05 at 03:27:46, Langa wrote:
Nan said we could come over for a meeting of the minds, wanna come ;;D Hugz Sean........................ |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Langa on Feb 23rd, 2005, 3:45pm Sure! Count me in... ;;D Langa |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 24th, 2005, 1:05am I'm afraid I'm going to have to bump this again. ;;D There's more good news everyday. |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Cathi04 on Feb 24th, 2005, 11:42am WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL? |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 24th, 2005, 12:17pm ;;D ;;D ;;D 8) I love kudzu..... if I had an ounce of talent, I'd write a poem about it. People.....what is the hold up! Give this stuff a try, would ya! I'm telling you...you won't regret it. |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Hirvimaki on Feb 24th, 2005, 12:31pm on 02/24/05 at 12:17:39, nani wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the internet... ODE TO KUDZU Kudzu can climb Kudzu can crawl Over the fence And up the wall It finds every crevice It finds every crack You can cut it down But it will come back. You can eat the root Or eat the leaf Twist the vine into a wreath You can do lots of things with the monstrous stuff You just can't seem to use enough. --Hazel Acree 4-21-95 Marjie Short made a documentary film in 1976 called Kudzu, which features an informative and amusing look at kudzu, contrasting a scientific discussion of the weed by botanist Tetsuo Kyama, James Dickey reading from his poem, kudzu, and refering to the plant as the "vegetable form of cancer", and interviews with Jimmy Carter about his memories of the vine in South Georgia. Again, the internet is a bewildering place! Gotta love it! Hirvimaki-Isi |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 24th, 2005, 12:34pm Bwahahahaha!!! [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] That was priceless! |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by sandie99 on Feb 24th, 2005, 1:06pm Good news! so far NO attacks today! :) I don't know if its kudzu or the freezing weather, but I'm not complaining... ;;D best wishes, Sandie |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 24th, 2005, 2:14pm WhooHoo!!! That's good news Sandie! |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Tiannia on Feb 24th, 2005, 2:26pm Still trying to find some here. Dont have much of a chance to get to a speciality store. And dont use crdit cards to buy over the internet. But as soon as I can find some I will be trying it as well. Nani how much do you take? |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 24th, 2005, 3:00pm on 02/24/05 at 14:26:32, Tiannia wrote:
Go to the natural foods store. Or a vitamin store, Tia. I'm taking 750mgs in the AM and 750mgs in the evening. I'm using Planetary formulas Kudzu Recovery formula. |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by floridian on Feb 24th, 2005, 3:13pm James Dickey did write a poem about kudzu - great guy, he was poet-laureate of South Carolina, author of Deliverance, etc. etc. He did make the mistake of attending Clemson, but saw the error of his way after a year and left that despicable institution. Quote:
I updated the kudzu article yesterday - included a small photo of a kudzu flower. Click on that, and it opens a full sized image. Its a beautiful flower, for sure. http://med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Kudzu |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 24th, 2005, 4:02pm Who knew there was actually kudzu poems out there!? Kewl. 8) That is a pretty flower. Too bad you can't plant "a little" in the garden. It appears that if we find this to be the "real deal" relief wise and we can keep the drug companies out of it....we might never have to worry about running out of it. |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by floridian on Feb 24th, 2005, 4:26pm on 02/24/05 at 16:02:33, nani wrote:
Unfortunately, the weed control geniuses are hard at work trying to find natural enemies for kudzu - they are looking for insects and fungi that will keep it from taking over. But my guess is that kudzu won't be rare anytime soon. :) On the brighter side, the biocontrol program for fire ants seems like it is starting to work in this corner of the state. |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Tiannia on Feb 24th, 2005, 5:54pm The Ballard of Henry Lee - by Al King Henry Lee was driving hard, down a lonely country road. His head was working overtime on an extra heavy load. The wind outside his pickup truck was whipping up a storm. The lightning shot big thunderbolts at every moving form. Then all at once he felt a funny grabbing from the rear. It happened several times, forced him into lower gear. The lightning made the sky like day, just enough for him To see a terrifying sight before the night went dim. A kudzu patch had gotten loose and headed 'cross the road In search of something else to climb before it all got mowed. It curled around a crosstie he was hauling in the back, Then got inside the cab with him by crawling through a crack! The creeping thing came at him as he shoved her into low, And gave her all the gas he could to make that pickup go. But nothing has a chance against a kudzu patch gone wild. It grabbed his bumpers, front and back, and then got really riled! They found him in November, after Jack Frost has made his call. The kudzu leaves had withered as they do late in the fall. And all made speculation as to what has caused his death - A heart attack, or liquor, which was sometimes on his breath. But no one could have guessed the truth because they didn't see The kudzu patch that crossed the road and lassoed Henry Lee! |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by vig on Feb 24th, 2005, 6:04pm on 02/24/05 at 16:26:34, floridian wrote:
whatever happened to the africanized killer bees? |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Hirvimaki on Feb 26th, 2005, 11:10am Bumpity BUMP! I started kudzu yesterday (Friday). I have the pure stuff, liquid extract with nothing else in it (because I wanna know if it does do something that it really is the kudzu). This "cycle" (if you can call it that) has been an odd one, but it has been pretty consistent in that it strikes early Saturday morning - effectively ruining my weekend. Coincidence or not, I did not get hit this morning. Or rather, whatever is going on is very different. If a true hit is like very loud, annoying music, the kind that thumps your entire body, then a shadow is like that same music on low, still there, but only mildly annoying. Well, this morning I have what is like hearing that annoying music through a closed door. Barely a whisper. And I'm not even certain it is there. Weird. Oh, and FYI, I only use O2 for my CH. I long ago gave up on any other prevents or abortives. Thanks, Nani! Hirvimaki-Isi |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 26th, 2005, 11:24am Oh goody, Paul!!! I was really hoping it would help. Would you also post your results in the kudzu thread? I would love for all who are trying it or considering it to see your experience. Yipee!! love, nani Edited to add: don't thank me...we should all thank Floridian... :) |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Cathi04 on Feb 27th, 2005, 12:09pm THIS IS A HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM BUMP! [smiley=shore.gif] [smiley=shore.gif] [smiley=shore.gif] |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Feb 28th, 2005, 8:55am This is my 25th day without a hit. I was startled awake this morning and started to feel like a hit might be coming. I got really nervous...and just as quickly as I felt it might come on...it was gone. A 2 minute jab. Still shadowing ever so slightly. :) |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Hirvimaki on Feb 28th, 2005, 8:58am PF all weekend here. Yeah for Kudzu!! :) Hirvimaki-Isi |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Cathi04 on Feb 28th, 2005, 11:17am OK....this is a WOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!!!! Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone else ready to update us?? Redd, did you get some??? Who else is in this unofficial trial???? [smiley=shore.gif]Go Kudzu, Go Kudzu, Go Kudzu!!!! |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Mar 1st, 2005, 12:21am *Bump* |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Mr. Happy on Mar 1st, 2005, 12:31am Bunch of drug seeking Placebo suckers........if you ask me. Nobody's asked, RJ |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Mar 3rd, 2005, 9:09am ***Bumping again...*** More success stories! It's helped some more than others...but it's worth a shot...IMHO |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Hirvimaki on Mar 3rd, 2005, 9:33am Almost a full week now PF. I usually get hit on Saturday (and sometimes Sunday) and Wednesday. I managed to get through last weekend and yesterday with no pain, no shadows! None, zero, zip, the big goose egg! Hirvimaki-Isi |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Frank_W on Mar 3rd, 2005, 11:24am I'm okay, except for these annoying vines that keep sprouting out of my nostrils and ears... ;;D |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by clarence on Mar 3rd, 2005, 11:42am on 02/26/05 at 11:10:02, Hirvimaki wrote:
Your description, in my opinion, is a very good one. This is what I am feeling, though I haven't known how to express. Like hearing music through a door. This leads me to ask...Is the Kudzu masking the pain, or is it effectively lowering the activity in the nerve, or...I guess, what in the heck is it doing. I still do feel "activity" on the right side of my head, but it is not so much painful as it is just "there..." BTW - where do you get Kudzu extract? Casey |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by rickyshot on Mar 3rd, 2005, 11:42am I am in between cycles but getting hit with horrible migraines . NOthing but fun. I am gonna give this stuff a try. I will let you all know. I have the kind of migraines that so far no med has helped including a TIA from them. Don't ask how sick they make me feel. Then when I get in cycle I have to deal with the CH plus the damn migraines. That is when I feel suicidal. I am praying this could help. Thanks you all. I went to the web site and called the natural center I go to. They got the kudzu. |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Hirvimaki on Mar 3rd, 2005, 12:05pm on 03/03/05 at 11:42:06, clarence wrote:
After that strange "music through the door" sensation on Saturday and a bit of the same thing yesterday, I have been entirely PF. I really can't say what the kudzu is doing, or rather how it is doing it, but I am just glad it seems to be working. on 03/03/05 at 11:42:06, clarence wrote:
From a store called Sunflower Market. They are a chain of natural food stores in New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada. When my wife went in to look for kudzu, they pulled it out of a box that had just arrived that day! They had never carried kudzu before. :) Luck was smiling on me that day. Hirvimaki-Isi |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Mar 7th, 2005, 1:40pm *bump* :) |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Charlie_-_Florida on Mar 22nd, 2005, 12:28am Wow.....This Kudzu seems to be something to try. Just one question.......Anyone tried this who was taking Prednison and Imitrex ? Any concerns ? Any cautions ? |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by nani on Mar 22nd, 2005, 12:32am I don't think the question about Prednisone has come up yet. There could possibly be interactions with Imitrex, since they work on the same receptors. One thing that was noticed is that kudzu taken up to 4 hours prior to Imitrex made the Imitrex ineffective for 1 person. Floridian or ozzy may know about Prednisone. Perhaps you could PM them? Or post the question in one of the kudzu threads on the medications board. |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Charlie_-_Florida on Mar 22nd, 2005, 12:38am This is very upbeat........Especailly for CH sufferers. Anything that is possible, is a plus. Just have to give the Kudzu a try. Prednisone seems to be losing its power; but, bless that Imitrex....... |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by jokrs2 on Mar 22nd, 2005, 3:42am Hi Charlie. Here's another little bump on the upbeat thing. I got off Imitrex and Morphine Sulfate which I've used for the last 14 years and now I only take Kudzu. No hits above a kip 3 over the last seven days. Still living in the shadows but life is WAY better. JUST my results. OK. Hope you find something that makes life easier. Joe |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Hirvimaki on Mar 22nd, 2005, 10:08am With the exception of a few stray shadows and one tiny little HA, I've gone three weeks now PF on just kudzu. I'm a believer. Hirvimaki-hand-over-the-'zu-Isi |
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Title: Re: If you haven't already... Post by Charlie_-_Florida on Mar 22nd, 2005, 12:17pm What a great family of CH sufferers. The information is so valuable. And now onto Kudzu. What has anyone found to work best in the Kudzu family.....The liquid, the root....or what ? |
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