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(Message started by: Jonny on Feb 12^th, 2005, 11:17pm)

Title: Soldier!!!!
Post by Jonny on Feb 12^th, 2005, 11:17pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/jonny68/image0011.jpg

This statue currently stands outside the Iraqi palace, now home to the 4th Infantry division. It will eventually be shipped home and put in the memorial museum in Fort Hood,Texas.

The statue was created by an Iraqi artist named Kalat, who for years was forced by Saddam Hussein to make the many hundreds of bronze busts of Saddam that dotted Baghdad.

Kalat was so grateful for the Americans liberation of his country; he melted 3 of the heads of the fallen Saddam and made the statue as a memorial to the American soldiers and their fallen warriors. Kalat worked on this memorial night and day for several months.

To the left of the kneeling soldier is a small Iraqi girl giving the soldier comfort as he mourns the loss of his comrade in arms.

Do you know why we don't hear about this in the news? Because it is heart warming and praise worthy. The media avoids it because it does not have the shock effect that a flashed breast or controversy of politics does. But we can do something about it. We can pass this along to as many people as we can in honor of all our brave military who is making a difference. Thank you!!

..............................jonny

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Callico_Kid on Feb 12^th, 2005, 11:24pm

Bet you got that picture from the front page of your paper didn't you?!

Friend of mine was there and saw it it person. Says it is much more moving than the picture can convey.

Many thanks to the men and women who have been and/or are there.

jc

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by BobG on Feb 12^th, 2005, 11:25pm

Cool, Jonny. Thanks for bringing it to us.

Quote:

Do you know why we don't hear about this in the news? Because it is heart warming and praise worthy. The media avoids it because it does not have the shock effect that a flashed breast or controversy of politics does.

You got that right. It doesn't sell newpaper ads or commercial time on TV.

But now we know about and we can send it on to others.

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Jonny on Feb 12^th, 2005, 11:40pm

on 02/12/05 at 23:25:47, BobG wrote:

Cool, Jonny. Thanks for bringing it to us.

The thanks goes to Shari for sending it to me.

Im just the middle man on this one......... ;;D

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by BobG on Feb 12^th, 2005, 11:49pm

Thanks Shari.

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Gator on Feb 13^th, 2005, 12:34am

I love the memorial. The story accompanying it is touching, but the details are questionable.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/kalat.asp

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Jonny on Feb 13^th, 2005, 1:48am

Question this [smiley=guyflash.gif]

It was made....dont matter how does it?

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by sandie99 on Feb 13^th, 2005, 2:47am

my former lecturer at the university of westminter in uk told me that when there's a war, the first casualty is always the truth.

journalists usually have restricted access and they are shown the things the army wants them to see...

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Gator on Feb 13^th, 2005, 2:53am

on 02/13/05 at 01:48:23, Jonny wrote:

Question this [smiley=guyflash.gif]

It was made....dont matter how does it?

As far as I'm concerned? No. The man could have refused to make it, but he didn't. Regardless, it's a fitting memorial to fallen comrades created from melted down statues of the a$$hole that they helped remove from power. Like I said, I love it.

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Gator on Feb 13^th, 2005, 3:32am

on 02/13/05 at 02:47:41, sandie99 wrote:

my former lecturer at the university of westminter in uk told me that when there's a war, the first casualty is always the truth.

Unfortunately, this is true, but it goes that way on both sides. A word or act or picture taken out of context can be powerful propaganda. When I was stationed in Korea, I went to the DMZ. In our briefing, we were told never to look down when we were in the presence of the North Korean soldiers. Apparently, during a previous tour, a soldier looked down at a North Korean Soldier's boots. (This is just a natural part of one soldier sizing up another soldier. Checking out his appearance.) The North Koreans snapped the pic as the American soldier was standing facing the North Korean soldier and looking down at his boots. The caption read something to the effect of "American Soldier Shamed By North Korean Soldier" and was transmitted across the peninsula.

journalists usually have restricted access and they are shown the things the army wants them to see...

Or in the case of the liberal American media, warps the truth around to what they want you to see and believe - or just doesn't report it at all. There are plenty of good things going on in the world that are never shown by the main stream media. Soldiers are coming home and seeing the news and saying that the way they are portraying it is all wrong. Like when the soldier killed the wounded, unarmed man in the mosque. The media played that up really big here, but they failed to show why it happened. They didn't report the fact that the terrorists are booby trapping their own bodies with explosives and lying in wait for a group of soldiers to come close enough to take them out. They made little to no mention of the fact that the soldier was wounded just the day before in a fire fight or that he had been on the move all night and all that day. With the odd exception, the only thing that gets reported is the stuff that reflects poorly on this country.

That is why so many people are turning to other sources for their news other than ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN. The main stream media has lost a good deal of their credibility. There was a time long gone by where it was said, "If the New York Times printed it, it must be true." Now you read the Times and say, "Wow, if that's true it's terrible."

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by minnie on Feb 13^th, 2005, 9:54am

Thank you Shari and Jonny for sharing this with us.
It Looks like a beautiful monument to some very brave
young men and women.There sacrifices and those of their families will never be forgotten.

Minnie

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Frank_W on Feb 13^th, 2005, 10:28am

Thank you, Shari and Jonny.

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by ShariRae on Feb 13^th, 2005, 10:31am

The thanks goes to Jonny for posting it.. I am to stupid to know how..lol

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by SLanegan on Feb 13^th, 2005, 10:34am

Go Army!!!! I went to the first Desert War in 1991. Been to several others around the world afterward. War is tough!!!! Still in and will most likely have to deploy back to the desert again within the next year or two.

I have many many friends who have gone, come home and gone again. I have lost a few as well. War is hell!!!

Thanks to all of you who support the men and women of the armed forces!!!! We do our job because of what we believe in..............Freedom for All!!!!

I would die for any of you in a heart beat!!!!

PFDANs to all.

Master Sergeant Sean

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Sean_C on Feb 13^th, 2005, 11:01am

Nice thread jonny, kinda made me feel like this is all worthwhile.

[smiley=thumb.gif]

Sean......................

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Ruth on Feb 13^th, 2005, 11:07am

Thank you, thank you, I needed to see something positive this morning.

Ruth

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by BlueMeanie on Feb 13^th, 2005, 1:13pm

Such a small token for such a large sacrifice. Very nice indeed. Thank you to all the service men & women out there.

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Leesa on Feb 13^th, 2005, 2:35pm

That is AWESOME!! If the media would do more stories like this then maybe just maybe more folks would support the fight for freedom the way they should. All the media shows us is what they WANT us to know the blood, the guts and the gore! Never the good stuff like this or the other GREAT things that are going on for FREEDOM! Shari, THANK YOU & Jonny THANK YOU for showing off the GOOD STUFF!! This is a MUST send to ALL in the addy book!!!
Leesa

Title: Re: Soldier!!!!
Post by Redneck on Feb 13^th, 2005, 9:30pm

I had already seen this, thought it was great. Our so called "media" suks! I think Merle Haggard said it best -

I hear people talkin' bad,
About the way we have to live here in this country,
Harpin' on the wars we fight,
An' gripin' 'bout the way things oughta be.
An' I don't mind 'em switchin' sides,
An' standin' up for things they believe in.
When they're runnin' down my country, man,
They're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Yeah, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Runnin' down the way of life,
Our fightin' men have fought and died to keep.
If you don't love it, leave it:
Let this song I'm singin' be a warnin'.
If you're runnin' down my country, man,
You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

I read about some squirrely guy,
Who claims, he just don't believe in fightin'.
An' I wonder just how long,
The rest of us can count on bein' free.
They love our milk an' honey,
But they preach about some other way of livin'.
When they're runnin' down my country, hoss,
They're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

Yeah, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Runnin' down the way of life,
Our fightin' men have fought and died to keep.
If you don't love it, leave it:
Let this song I'm singin' be a warnin'.
If you're runnin' down my country, man,
You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

Yeah, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Runnin' down the way of life,
Our fightin' men have fought and died to keep.
If you don't love it, leave it:
Let this song I'm singin' be a warnin'.
If you're runnin' down my country, man,
You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

Nuff Said