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(Message started by: Woobie on Feb 2nd, 2005, 11:27pm)

Title: "Real Love"
Post by Woobie on Feb 2nd, 2005, 11:27pm
I was watching some chick flicks the other night - all by myself.

I was wondering - do people really LOVE like they do in the movies??  

Do romantic things really happen to people like they do in the movies?  What's happened to you...?

Do people really feel that way?   In the movies.. people do some strange and outrageous things for "love".   What's the biggest thing you've done for "love"?

I think that if some of the things in the movies happened to me - I wouldn't know what to do.  

If "real" love is like in the movies........... Ramon and I need to have a little chat!   :-/

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by john_d on Feb 2nd, 2005, 11:36pm
Biggest thing I have done?

I spent every penny I had to fly someone across the country to live with me when I was barely making ends meet.  I had known her for one month.

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Woobie on Feb 2nd, 2005, 11:38pm
Did it work out???

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by AlienSpaceBabe on Feb 2nd, 2005, 11:39pm
Well, in the movies it's more like "burning" love....
It's only happened once, but for me it's like hot embers.... like home - somewhere you want to be, where you are truly happy.

What have I done for love? Nothing unusual... just put my heart and myself on the line.

What would I do? Probably anything....
If it's real, then things aren't sacrifices....
I'd live in a thatched hut with no running water....  
I'd move across the country...

Yeah, if I love someone and that person loves me back.... well, I'm a romantic... ya get the idea....

jmho
Lizzie

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by john_d on Feb 2nd, 2005, 11:41pm
For a while, lol.  ;;D  The relationship was doomed, but it was an experience I don't regret, and it was a person I won't forget.

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Woobie on Feb 2nd, 2005, 11:41pm
Well... you always hear  "I'd do anything for real love."

But who has actually HAD to do something really outrageous for love.....

and if it was real - would you HAVE to do something outrageous to get it??


I think too damned much

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Cathi04 on Feb 2nd, 2005, 11:44pm
LOL>.Woobs...........Real love is what YOU need it to be.....
Remember when you and Ramon were dating?? Remember that feeling of always wanting to be with him?? Now, after  years, and years... and YEARS(grumbling now)....well, YA JUST WISH HED GO THE HELL AWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FOR AWHILE!?
The love is the first part.........the other is the mellowing over years.....and you know a lot of this is tongue in cheek....
Some couples are quite demonstrative(ie:GET A ROOM!)
Some couples are a great team, moving fluidly thru       life,  taking turns with the ball........
I doubt it can be quite as intense all the time like you'd see in a Danielle Steelle made-for-TV.....STOP watching those movies!!!

Oh, Lord.......RAMON!  Kiss her...tell her ya love her.bring her something special, wrapped with a big red bow......

Woobs..... he's still there, each and every night. That is love....

Somebody, bring me some kleenex??
Cathi


Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by AlienSpaceBabe on Feb 2nd, 2005, 11:45pm

on 02/02/05 at 23:41:02, john_d wrote:
... it was an experience I don't regret, and it was a person I won't forget.



then it was worth it....

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 2nd, 2005, 11:54pm

on 02/02/05 at 23:27:56, Woobie wrote:
What's the biggest thing you've done for "love"?


Split at 3:00am off a waterbed without waking her.




Kevin M


Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Lizzie2 on Feb 3rd, 2005, 12:05am
From what I've heard....Den and Georgia have QUITE a "love" story.  One of the 'old timers' around here can share the story because I've only heard it second hand and talked to Georgia about it once or twice!!!  :)

As for me...I don't think I've experienced that 'crazy love' like they have on tv.  I know I've experienced feelings of true love, but they are very hard to describe.  Right now, I honestly feel great love for my ex-boyfriend even though now we are just best friends.  It is simply because of how he's shown me that he would do anything for me when I needed it...and I am the same way for him.  We aren't together anymore, but we are closer than we ever were when we WERE together.

Some people show and feel that strong love in a physical way.  I think I personally get more emotionally attached.  When I feel that emotional "bond," that's when the love comes into play.  When I know we're there for each other through thick and thin...no matter what....that means a great deal to me.  Attraction is important, but not the *key*...at least IMHO!!!

Hugz,
Carrie/Lizzie2 :)

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Callico_Kid on Feb 3rd, 2005, 12:07am
All that stuff in the movies is just for fun.  (Not that that is bad.  ;;D )

Real love is what I have seen with my Dad taking care of Mom in the last couple of years as her Parkinsons is really starting to kick in, or what Linda has done for me when my head is really giving me fits.

Biggest thing I have done is to drive 21 hours one way just to spend one evening with her, and then drive back the next day.  It was worth it, and still is! ;;D

Jerry

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by AlienSpaceBabe on Feb 3rd, 2005, 12:09am

on 02/03/05 at 00:07:46, Callico_Kid wrote:
Biggest thing I have done is to drive 21 hours one way just to spend one evening with her, and then drive back the next day.  It was worth it, and still is! ;;D

Jerry


WOW


Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Woobie on Feb 3rd, 2005, 12:13am
Cathy and Jerry - you two are soooooooo right.

I guess what I'm meaning is REAL ROMANCE.  
Love and Romance are two separate things.. I have to keep reminding myself of that.


I need to stop watching Love Actually, City of ANgels, Sleepless in Seattle, Sex and the City, Titanic, and all the mushy shit....... huh??

Life just gets too damned complicated... and sometimes you just need to get ............. uh......... nevermind.

LMAO


Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by AlienSpaceBabe on Feb 3rd, 2005, 12:17am

on 02/03/05 at 00:13:16, Woobie wrote:
Life just gets too damned complicated... and sometimes you just need to get ............. uh......... nevermind.

LMAO


o m g... . [smiley=girlflash.gif]




on 02/03/05 at 00:13:16, Woobie wrote:
I need to stop watching Love Actually, City of ANgels, Sleepless in Seattle, Sex and the City, Titanic, and all the mushy shit....... huh??

LMAO


well, life without satc, sleepless, love actually? what kind of life is that? LOL

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Donna_D. on Feb 3rd, 2005, 12:17am
Biggest thing I ever did for love?

I was dating a guy who I was (then) COMPLETELY in love with...he told me he had fallen in love with another girl...so.........


I let him go...


15 years later THEY are now married and VERY happy...


...and I don't regret my decision one bit.


It was the right thing to do...


DD

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by eddie on Feb 3rd, 2005, 12:20am
you bet, i love my wife so much i cry sometimes because
i love her so much. she is my best friend. she sits and
reads stuff on the board with me. if she has $1.00 she
will give me 75 cents. i am really blessed. when we
got married in 2001 i wanted to go to amsterdam 2002
she had no problem. i have to say she is not the
jealous type. if any lady called me from this MB
she has no problem. im so lucky and blessed
thats why i never would cheat on her no matter what.
PF wishes
eddie  

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by john_d on Feb 3rd, 2005, 12:23am

on 02/03/05 at 00:20:58, eddie wrote:
you bet, i love my wife so much i cry sometimes because
i love her so much. she is my best friend. she sits and
reads stuff on the board with me. if she has $1.00 she
will give me 75 cents. i am really blessed. when we
got married in 2001 i wanted to go to amsterdam 2002
she had no problem. i have to say she is not the
jealous type. if any lady called me from this MB
she has no problem. im so lucky and blessed
thats why i never would cheat on her no matter what.
PF wishes
eddie  


thanks for making me insanely jealous eddie, dang.  ;)

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by high_commander on Feb 3rd, 2005, 12:40am
Real love is never found in the movies

They sometimes get close, but usually just go for the "new" love feeling and gloss over the "ever after"

Love is putting up with his stinky feet and him farting in bed
He puts up with panic attacks about hair, make-up and bad outfits
Love will make you care for him/ her when they are sick-and really annoying...
Love will go start the car for you when its 40 below
Love will drive 10 miles to town to get ice cream
Love will tell you you look beautiful even when the 40 extra pounds makes you doubt it
Love will cry when you have his babies
Love will hold you when you cry while watching those silly chick flicks.
Love will work hard to make a home

Love will drive you crazy
Love will make you doubt
Love will break your heart...more than once

But if you stick with it, it's usually worth it, even when you want to kill him....
They get comfortable/lazy and sometimes need to be reminded. Be specific, leave notes and ideas if you have too...

Danielle

Forever Young is a favorite movie...

The biggest thing i've done for love...well the coldest was crawling naked into bed with my hubby to save his life (hahaha-not like that) His truck heater had died and it was -30 and there was nothing open at 3am so he could stop and warm up or call.(no cell phone) He arrived at the patio doors because he couldn't unbend his hands to use the keys for the front door. Deep into hypothermia, (he had stopped shivering)I undressed him, got him in bed and proceeded to use my body heat to unthaw him. He warmed up enough to start shivering again and then continued that for about two hours. Early the next morning he finally fell asleep, warm, and I headed for the HOT shower.


Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by K-9 on Feb 3rd, 2005, 1:25am
Well it seems to me that alot of this advice is sort of repeating itself.  If a person is looking for that big magical moment or huge ah Ha moment, they may be missing the most important stuff.  The Biggest thing you can do in a relationship for love is to try to do the daily little things consistently.  I say this because the newness wares off of any relationship and what you have left is a friendship  with the person you love, and you have something important that you can count on, and someone who can count on you......always there.  Two old people taking a walk, sitting on a porch swing, taking care of one another,  That's true love.  If you can throw in some big  romantic gushy stuff every now and then that's just that much better!!!  

Whatever looks like greener grass is usually found to be astroturf, (not real at all).  

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Woobie on Feb 3rd, 2005, 1:32am

on 02/03/05 at 01:25:20, K-9 wrote:
If you can throw in some big  romantic gushy stuff every now and then that's just that much better!!!    



that's all i'm sayin............... ;;D

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 3rd, 2005, 2:36am


What's the biggest thing I ever did for Love?  

Lots of things but the most recent is to rent out my house/leave everything and everybody I know and love and move to a God-for-saken city called Spokane, Wa.


Quote:
 Cathi said:
Oh, Lord.......RAMON!  Kiss her...tell her ya love her.bring her something special, wrapped with a big red bow......


Tina I have a feeling that you are feeling unappreciated right now.  Let Ramon read what Cathi has said here.

And Ramon??????   Hon you don't have to spend $$$ on her...just let her know you love her in little ways like leaving a note on her pillow or in her lunch.   One rose is much more special than a dozen.  Turn on a CD and dance with her.  Take the kids out for pizza so she can have some time for herself.  Tell her you don't know what the hell you'd do without her.  Say that in front of her to your friends or your family.  

Woobie, Real love is the everyday stuff.  The feelings like Clark showed when he said ENOUGH!  Cat cannot come out and play anymore because she was so very ill. (Now there is a man who loves his wife)

The dramatic stuff if it happens at all....only usually happens at the start of a romance.  Rarely lasts.  


Oh thanks...you had to get me started didn't you?  LMAO!

Tina you ARE loved!     Linda



Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by eddie on Feb 3rd, 2005, 3:08am
cook, clean, wash clothes dishes and hold her for no
reason. like Linda said leave a note just to say i love
you baby. say im sorry when im wrong or not . i can go
on and on. she puts up with me. hell i have even gone
to the store and got her female products. i would do
anything for my wife. i will show her everyday of my
life cause she is there for me. one of my sayings
is " it takes a good woman to make a good man and
it takes a good man to make a good family" together
is the way to make this happen!!! but my family here
is our family too. all this is from my heart.
eddie
PF wishes to all

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by fubar on Feb 3rd, 2005, 3:52am
I'm in love... romantic, stupid, do anything love.  It does happen.

I'm always trying to do idiotic romantic things, just to show her that she's the only thing on my mind.  I get a tremendous kick out of it, and we both feed off that energy.  Our sex life is incredible and it has only gotten better over time, not boring.

Do anything?  I'm about to have sparm extracted from my post-vasectomy testicles and spend about $20,000 on IVF so we can make a baby together (God willing), so I'd say that's right up there in the 'anything' category.  8)

-Shawn

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Gator on Feb 3rd, 2005, 4:54am
Many moons ago, when I was law enforcement  patrolman stationed in Japan, I pulled my wife over and gave her a ticket.  The ticket had I LOVE YOU written in big red letters on it.  I've snuck into my wife's office while she was out to lunch and left cards or flowers on her desk.  I send her short little e-mails while she's at work saying I love you.  I've driven 15 miles round trip just to go into town and get her a Vanilla Dr. Pepper from Sonic.  I've cared for her and cleaned up after her when she's been sick.  Breakfast in bed on no particularly special day - just 'cause.   I'm always doing stuff like that.  And she does it for me as well.

She is my supporter.  She keeps me from pounding my head on the wall or with my fist during an attack.  She tries to provide a distraction from the pain.  She fetches my trex injection stuff.  She fills the syringes when I am too far gone to do it myself.  Even though she is deathly afraid of needles, she let me teach her how to give me a shot and she has had to give me a couple.  She rubs my head and neck after an attack.  She won't let me get down on myself.  She kicks me in the rear end if I do get too far down and gets me going again.

We are more in love now than when we first got married.  She is first and foremost my best friend in the whole world.  We talk about anything and everything.  We complete each others sentences and a lot of times we don't have to speak at all.  We just know what the other is thinking (this drives the kids nuts).  We trust each other implicitly and have never done anything to cause the other to doubt that.

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Woobie on Feb 3rd, 2005, 5:36am
UH OH :oLMAO

First = let me say that you all are awesome...

but - I think this whole thing was misinterpreted.. and before Ramon reads this and gets pissed at me... (LMAO!! [smiley=laugh.gif])  ........this wasn't about ME and HIM.... this was just a general question - brought up by me watching chick flicks.

I was just wondering if people really did the things they do in movies..........

I know what REAL love is........ and I have it.  Ramon is good to me.  There may not be "romance" per say (like in the movies)- but the things he does to show me he loves me are not un-noticed...

I guess I just wanted to know if other REAL people do these things........... and I guess the answer is YES.  And that's really cool.

The original question - what have you done for love?  

BUT - I have to say that some of the replies remind me of why I got married in the first place... and I needed that too.;)

Love you guys
tina
:-*

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by PrettyH8Machine on Feb 3rd, 2005, 6:26am
Hmm, does this count?

Picking up my ex fiancee on her Bday from work to take her out to dinner. When I opened her car door to let her in, I had a teddy bear sitting in the seat holding a rose with a gold chain around it's neck. She was floored!
After dinner, I cruised out to Dearborn (was living in Milan, MI at the time) to a little make-out spot where we stopped. I popped the trunk to reveal a candleabra, chilled champagne and chocolate. Lit the candles, sat on the hood and.... you can pretty much guess the rest.

I'm a fucked up hopeless romantic. Somebody SHOOT ME!!!

;;D
CD

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by clarence on Feb 3rd, 2005, 7:55am
The moment I saw the woman who would become my wife I knew that I would need to do something drastic in order to get her to notice me.  She is hot...I am not...

She worked in a "party" store, where they did tux rentals, balloon arrangments, wedding invites, etc...  So, I went in one day, she had no idea who I was, and my heart was racing.  She was there, and as I looked around she said, "Can I help you with anything?"

I said "Yeah, tell me if you think this is stupid.  There's this girl, and I don't know her, but i want to.  I am too embarrassed to introduce myself, because I'm kinda shy, but I want to get a boquewt of balloons, and give them to her, and walk away.  I'll leave my name and number on the card.  I just want her to know that I think she is beautiful.  Is that dumb?"

She said that it was not dumb and that if someone did it to her she would be really impressed.  So she helped me pick out balloons, she inflated them, and we picked out a weight for the bottom made out of Kisses.  I wrote on the card, "My name is Casey, and I was a little embarassed to introduce myself, but I think you are beautiful."  With my phone number.

As I went to leave, she said, "Good luck with the girl."  I said, "Thanks, I'm going to need it."  Then I turned to walk out, turned back around, and said, "Here, they're for you."  I handed them to her and left.

She called me that night, broke up with her boyfriend the next day, we went on a date the day after, and have been together ever since.  Married almost 7 years now.  How did I get so lucky?

http://photos1.flickr.com/836753_e5d1249385.jpg

Casey

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Melissa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 8:08am
I decided to try and have another baby, which is INSANE for me!

LOL

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by catlind on Feb 3rd, 2005, 8:25am

on 02/03/05 at 00:13:16, Woobie wrote:
I guess what I'm meaning is REAL ROMANCE.  
Love and Romance are two separate things.. I have to keep reminding myself of that.

I need to stop watching Love Actually, City of ANgels, Sleepless in Seattle, Sex and the City, Titanic, and all the mushy shit....... huh??

Life just gets too damned complicated... and sometimes you just need to get ............. uh......... nevermind.


Watch the movie "What Dreams May Come".  It is obviously not a real life scenario in the end, however the majority of the movie is very real, to include the problems with love and romance.  Clark and I watch it every so often to remind us that yes, we love each other that much, and suddenly the small shit doesn't seem to matter as much.

Savage Garden has a song "Truly Madly Deeply" I guess the most outrageous/romantic things for love have to be related to that song.  It was our 'wedding dance song'  The chorus is "I want to stand with you on a mountain, I want to bathe with you in the sea, I want to lay like this forever, til the sky falls down on me"

Clark took me to a mountain peak - The Zugspitze in German, he took me to the Ocean and we 'bathed' in the sea (the kids were with us, get yer mind outta the gutter ;) ) He has systematically set out to fulfil that entire song.  He's flown me to Germany for 4 days just to see him on an R&R from a deployment.  (Before we were married he flew me to Germany and paid for a Nanny for my kids just cause he didn't want to wait for 6 months to see me).  

The absolute most romantic thing he ever did for me, was the way he proposed.  I'm a computer geek, I was in school for programming, and found I absolute loved programming.  He knew nothing of programming.  He took the time to learn enough C programming to write a little program that opened a dialogue box with the question "Will you marry me?" with yes and no buttons on it.  To anyone else it may be goofy, but to me, it says he took the time to know me, to know the things in my life that I was passionate about, and he used that to win my heart.  

What's romantic to me is not romantic to you, so when you evaluate your marriage and romance, ask yourself if your partner is doing things that are specifically for you - not things that would be seen as romantic to the outside world.

The best gift I got was a C/C++ programming bible, and that was along with a diamond ring and Chanel no 5 perfume (the actual perfume).  It's all in who you are and what things/actions mean the most to YOU not what is perceived to be romantic by society.

If someone gives of themselves, and takes the time to learn and know what you are about, then it's almost guaranteed to be romantic, even if it's goofy to the rest of the world.

Cat

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by catlind on Feb 3rd, 2005, 8:37am

on 02/03/05 at 02:36:00, Linda_Howell wrote:
Woobie, Real love is the everyday stuff.  The feelings like Clark showed when he said ENOUGH!  Cat cannot come out and play anymore because she was so very ill. (Now there is a man who loves his wife)

Linda

Linda you made me cry.  I had replied to Tina before I read your post.  When I read this it brought tears to my eyes.  Not just because Clark does love me that much, but because he was willing to open that part up to the entire world by posting to you all here.  I can't tell you how much more it means knowing that you (and others) recognized how much he loves me.

And K-9, you are so very right.  The grass is not greener on the other side.  In my first marriage I used to look at other relationships and think the grass was greener on the other side.  Now that I'm married to Clark, truly the man of my dreams, I often look at others relationships, and friends who are single and wanting relationships, and I am amazed that I constantly recognize that there is NO WHERE that the grass is greener, I have a perfect life and marriage - perfect for me.

Cat

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Redd715 on Feb 3rd, 2005, 8:41am
Letting out a loooooooong




(sigh)





:-/

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Svenn on Feb 3rd, 2005, 8:52am
Its all about give&take

Have survived with Bente for 25 years may this year and admit that i have not regret 1 sec of them


Svenn

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by nani on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:01am

Quote:
Its all about give&take

Very true. Romance is great. It should continue throughout a relationship. But real love is in the day to day, give and take nature of the relationship. Some days it's 50/50 others 90/10. In the big picture it should even out. Once in awhile...there's nothing like one of those "movie" moments... but it's the everyday that counts most.    nani

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Langa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:08am
Clarence, I loved reading your story.  

Eddie and Svenn...you just gave me some hope.  Thank you.

Langa

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by cat14 on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:36am
I am not sure I was meant to be loved (that way) it just doesn' t work that way for me. but deep deep down I am still very romantic person and love that feeling, but who doesn't? Maybe when I'm in my wheelchair?????

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by nani on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:39am

on 02/03/05 at 09:36:45, cat14 wrote:
I am not sure I was meant to be loved (that way) it just doesn' t work that way for me. but deep deep down I am still very romantic person and love that feeling, but who doesn't? Maybe when I'm in my wheelchair?????



It's never too late...my Mom got married at 75... :)

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by cat14 on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:42am

on 02/03/05 at 09:39:29, nani wrote:
It's never too late...my Mom got married at 75... :)

I think we'd just live together then ;;D

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Langa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:49am

on 02/03/05 at 09:36:45, cat14 wrote:
I am not sure I was meant to be loved (that way) it just doesn' t work that way for me. but deep deep down I am still very romantic person and love that feeling, but who doesn't? Maybe when I'm in my wheelchair?????


You in your wheelchair and I'll be pushing you...LOL...

Girl, you gotta keep hope alive!!! (girl, I just cracked myself up!  [smiley=laugh.gif])

Langa

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by rickyshot on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:51am
Good posts. I too feel that real love is the everyday things we do with and for each other. That stuff in the movies is all very heady and usually sex not love. Y'all ever notice that the real heady types of relationships never last. You can't base a lifetime on feelings and sex. I have a cute story for y'all. My aunt who was in her eighties was a widow and met a guy who was 90. They feel in love and get this got married. It only lasted a year because he died. She died six months after-both of "natural causes". It was very beautiful and short and bittersweet. Life is for the living I always say.

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Melissa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:53am

on 02/03/05 at 09:36:45, cat14 wrote:
I am not sure I was meant to be loved (that way) it just doesn' t work that way for me.

Everyone was made to be loved that way.  We are all 1/2 of One.  Don't despair, it will find you.

:)

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by cat14 on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:53am

on 02/03/05 at 09:49:24, Langa wrote:
You in your wheelchair and I'll be pushing you...LOL...

Girl, you gotta keep hope alive!!! (girl, I just cracked myself up!  [smiley=laugh.gif])

Langa

Would you change me too, Langa??lol!!

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by guesst on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:56am

on 02/03/05 at 09:42:35, cat14 wrote:
I think we'd just live together then ;;D

Yes, that way you get more social security!  ;;D

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Langa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:57am

on 02/03/05 at 09:53:04, Melissa wrote:
Everyone was made to be loved that way.  We are all 1/2 of One.  Don't despair, it will find you.

:)


Someone told me the other day that this isn't true...that some people were meant to be alone... :-/

I don't agree, but then i'm hopeful to meet that someone to love me in that special way.   :D  

Langa

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by cat14 on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:58am

on 02/03/05 at 09:56:27, guesst wrote:
Yes, that way you get more social security!  ;;D

Just like a man, thinking about the money!jeez!! [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Langa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:02am

on 02/03/05 at 09:53:35, cat14 wrote:
Would you change me too, Langa??lol!!


I'll change you if you feed me...

Girl, I'm getting depressed... :-[

LOL

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Melissa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:07am

on 02/03/05 at 09:57:32, Langa wrote:
Someone told me the other day that this isn't true...that some people were meant to be alone... :-/


[smiley=JAW_DROP.gif]No one is meant to be alone!  No, I definately don't believe that, if I thought that, then I'd still be alone myself.  

We all search for that person who we think is our other 1/2.  Thing is, most do not stop and pay heed of the signs thrown at us.  Most humans are not connected to their own instincts and intuition, so they might miss the boat when it's sitting there right in front of them.  Only advice I can give, is to not try so hard, be happy with being yourself and when the time is right, it'll find you.  

:)

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by nani on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:08am

on 02/03/05 at 10:02:12, Langa wrote:
I'll change you if you feed me...

Girl, I'm getting depressed... :-[LOL


Just so it's clear...I'm not changing anyone. We can chip in and hire someone to change us all. ;;D

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Langa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:12am

on 02/03/05 at 10:07:07, Melissa wrote:
[smiley=JAW_DROP.gif]No one is meant to be alone!  No, I definately don't believe that, if I thought that, then I'd still be alone myself.  

We all search for that person who we think is our other 1/2.  Thing is, most do not stop and pay heed of the signs thrown at us.  Most humans are not connected to their own instincts and intuition, so they might miss the boat when it's sitting there right in front of them.  Only advice I can give, is to not try so hard, be happy with being yourself and when the time is right, it'll find you.  

:)


This same person doesn't believe in "other halfs"...just that we're our own person and we have to make ourselves happy and that "other person" adds to the happiness.  Not in someone "completing you"...I felt kinda hopeless afterwards...LOL.

So I agree with your advice, I don't look, but i'll definitely be more objective with what "finds me"  :-/...  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Langa

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Langa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:14am

on 02/03/05 at 10:08:46, nani wrote:
Just so it's clear...I'm not changing anyone. We can chip in and hire someone to change us all. ;;D


But, but I thought you loved me?   :'(

I thought real love included wiping butts....

Bwahahhahaa

Langa

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by AlienSpaceBabe on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:20am

on 02/03/05 at 10:12:52, Langa wrote:
This same person doesn't believe in "other halfs"...
just that we're our own person and we have to make ourselves happy and that "other person" adds to the happiness.  
Not in someone "completing you"...

Langa


Despite being a romantic, I agree with this.

Happiness and contentment come from inside... the "other person" adds to it... magnifies it.... and brings out the best in us.

I don't need to be "completed"... I like myself just the way I am!

jmho...
Lizzie

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by guesst on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:22am

on 02/03/05 at 10:20:38, AlienSpaceBabe wrote:
Despite being a romantic, I agree with this.

Happiness and contentment come from inside... the "other person" adds to it... magnifies it.... and brings out the best in us.

I don't need to be "completed"... I like myself just the way I am!

jmho...
Lizzie

Exactly, remember; True love is not how you feel about some one else, it is how that special some one makes YOU feel, when they are with you.

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by cat14 on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:25am

on 02/03/05 at 10:22:51, guesst wrote:
Exactly, remember; True love is not how you feel about some one else, it is how that special some one makes YOU feel, when they are with you.


Good answer spacebabe and Thomas
Maybe thats my problem!! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Langa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:28am

on 02/03/05 at 10:22:51, guesst wrote:
Exactly, remember; True love is not how you feel about some one else, it is how that special some one makes YOU feel, when they are with you.


I like this Thomas...Are you a closet poet?

Langa  ;;D

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Melissa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:28am
In regards to the 1/2 of a whole, whether we choose to believe that or not, is up to the individual, but I will say, that being "completed" and "happy with who you are" have nothing at all to do with each other.  JMHO

I think also that the word "complete" is an askewed view.  Some equate it with love, some romance, some spiritually, some have no explanation at all because it means so much more.  I'd be one of the "no explanation" people.  

To each his own...

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by guesst on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:35am

on 02/03/05 at 10:28:13, Langa wrote:
I like this Thomas...Are you a closet poet?

Langa  ;;D

No, not a closet poet at all, it's just that I only post my ch inspired poetry here.  The mushy love stuff gets posted at another place.  ;)

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Margi on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:37am
sorry to interrupt here but I just have to comment on Fubar's post.

Congratulations, Shawn!!!  I'm so happy you've found some love in your life finally.  I know you've had a bumpy ride these last few years and I'm so happy that you're on a good path now.  Best of luck, too, with the baby quest!!  Keep us posted!!


Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Langa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:49am

on 02/03/05 at 03:52:37, fubar wrote:
I'm in love... romantic, stupid, do anything love.  It does happen.

I'm always trying to do idiotic romantic things, just to show her that she's the only thing on my mind.  I get a tremendous kick out of it, and we both feed off that energy.  Our sex life is incredible and it has only gotten better over time, not boring.

Do anything?  I'm about to have sparm extracted from my post-vasectomy testicles and spend about $20,000 on IVF so we can make a baby together (God willing), so I'd say that's right up there in the 'anything' category.  8)

-Shawn


Shawn, this is great news! - definitely keep us posted on the "baby" (I had no idea you can do that after a vasectomy).  Praying for good news soon.   ;;D

Langa  

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by john_d on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:51am


Thanks for pointing that out Margi,  congrats Shawn!  :)

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by fubar on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:56am

on 02/03/05 at 10:37:10, Margi wrote:
sorry to interrupt here but I just have to comment on Fubar's post.

Congratulations, Shawn!!!  I'm so happy you've found some love in your life finally.  I know you've had a bumpy ride these last few years and I'm so happy that you're on a good path now.  Best of luck, too, with the baby quest!!  Keep us posted!!


Thanks Margi.  I've been pretty quiet about it, probably since I still find it hard to believe that this is all really happening.  The doctors are giving us about a 20% chance at making a baby, so the odds are not in our favor.  The idea of raising a child (or children) with a partner who actually wants to be a mom... wow, what a difference.  In any case, I am happy as hell.  Think good thoughts about the babies.  Yes, babies.  I have a good feeling we are going to be blessed with twins.  20% chance, my ass.

-Shawn

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Melissa on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:59am

on 02/03/05 at 10:56:22, fubar wrote:
 The doctors are giving us about a 20% chance at making a baby, so the odds are not in our favor.  The idea of raising a child (or children) with a partner who actually wants to be a mom... wow, what a difference.  In any case, I am happy as hell.  Think good thoughts about the babies.  Yes, babies.  I have a good feeling we are going to be blessed with twins.  20% chance, my ass.

-Shawn


Babies are wonderful, glad you want to have some.  Hope it all works out for you and your S/O.

:)mel

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Tiannia on Feb 3rd, 2005, 11:01am

on 02/03/05 at 02:36:00, Linda_Howell wrote:
Tina I have a feeling that you are feeling unappreciated right now.  Let Ramon read what Cathi has said here.

And Ramon??????   Hon you don't have to spend $$$ on her...just let her know you love her in little ways like leaving a note on her pillow or in her lunch.   One rose is much more special than a dozen.


Most romantic thing my husband did was for my 30th birthday go and get me one Sunflower.  He is deathly allergic to any and all flowers, but the fact that we spent half the day trying to find a store in September that had sunflower and I came from from work to find it in a vase on the table was amazing.  

It is the little things.  Tina I know how much you missed ramon when he was in AZ with Ken.  So just remember that part of your heart that felt like it was missing when he was gone.  

Romance is tough with kids.  Hell just having grow-up time is hard to get.  You never know when you will have any time "uninterupted".  But make the best of what you got.  

It is easy to forget and feel unloved, but you are never really unloved. It is unappreciated like Linda said.  It is easy to get causth up in the everyday shit and forget the really important stuff.

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by maureen on Feb 3rd, 2005, 11:29am
I kinda like my story of how my husband and I got together. We were really good friends met at age 12 I was head over heels for him but remained friends at 14 I moved away from our little town. At 21 I went back to visit everyone I had never forgotten him and wanted to see him again. We had a great visit together but he at that time was seeing someone. Two weeks later he phoned me for a date, he broke it off with the girl. We went out on a date when I got home I said to my mother I am going to marry that man. Which was strange for me because I didn't even want a relationship at the time. Well  3 months later we were engaged and 3 months after that married. I ended up leaving college, family, friends and moved away I have never regretted it or looked back. that was 13 yrs ago. When we are out and I see him across the room I still feel like the school girl in love except now I get to take him home  ;)

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by AlienSpaceBabe on Feb 3rd, 2005, 5:27pm

on 02/03/05 at 05:36:39, Woobie wrote:
I was just wondering if people really did the things they do in movies..........

:-*


I wouldn't know....
but I do think that most of the love stuff in movies is unrealistic....

more than the two characters who say the perfect thing at the perfect moment in the perfect setting, real-life love is messy and complicated... and fun...

it's forgiving someone for a stupid mistake.... enjoying his/her beauty right at dawn.... all that stuff.. the little stuff....

not that i'm an expert... i actually have no clue what to do....




on 02/03/05 at 05:36:39, Woobie wrote:
I know what REAL love is........ and I have it.  Ramon is good to me.  There may not be "romance" per say (like in the movies)- but the things he does to show me he loves me are not un-noticed...


:-*


That's fantastic, Tina!




Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by LeLimey on Feb 3rd, 2005, 5:41pm
I'm VERY cynical about romance. my ex used to buy huge enormous bunches of flowers for me that everyone else could see and they were more to show what a "wonderful" person he was than to make me feel loved.
If someone pulled the stunts on me like they have in films I have to admit I'd be thinking "whose benefit is this for?"
My husband does the things that matter, and really lovely things that are for me and me alone, like running me a bath and filling the bathroom with candles... and then keeping the kids out while I have five minutes to myself!
The single most romantic thing he ever did was when we were dating. We lived 200 miles apart so we spent alot of the time on the phone. one night I mentioned in passing i love white wine gums (sweets) and he went out and bought about forty packets of them to fill a box for me with just white ones.  :)
Another time I mentioned a song I liked alot and he bought a Cd and played it when I next got in the car.
HE LISTENS.. to (almost) everything I say.. and considering what a load of twaddle I talk I think I can safely say greater love hath no man!! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Woobie on Feb 3rd, 2005, 6:49pm

on 02/03/05 at 08:25:09, catlind wrote:
Watch the movie "What Dreams May Come".
Cat



I absolutely LOVE that movie... I own it.  I watch it all the time...........


Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by myfreaknhead on Feb 3rd, 2005, 7:37pm

on 02/03/05 at 09:57:32, Langa wrote:
Someone told me the other day that this isn't true...that some people were meant to be alone... :-/

I don't agree, but then i'm hopeful to meet that someone to love me in that special way.   :D  

Langa



I believe it's true, only I don't think we'll necessarily even meet the other half, let alone be blessed enough to spend our lives with them.

I've had my chance already...intense and explosive and very hurtful in the end.  But I learned much...I live smarter and love better, and my guess is that's the whole point.

And I think the word "love" is totally overrated anyway...you either love someone, or you don't.  The twin-soul connection makes love look like a silly little word, IMO.  Sounds like some of you know exactly what I mean.  Lucky.  :P

And I hate chick-flicks.

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by ClusterChuck on Feb 4th, 2005, 12:52am
I thought long and hard on this, as to whether to post or not.  Decided to go ahead with it.

My wife ex-wife (boy that is hard to get used to saying) is a diabetic.  I used to give her her shots, and many nights jump up and get her some sugar item as she was in insulin shock.  

Once, after serious surgery, I had to changed her napkins and cleaned her up after using the bedpan, as she was too weak to do it on her own.  But that is not the hardest thing I ever did for her, out of love.

The hardest and most painful thing was leaving her, after 28 years of marriage, when she told me she wanted me out.  I never saw it coming.  And then after 30 years, 2 months, and 17 days, the divorce was finalized.  I thought I was all cried out about this, until those papers came in the mail.  It is like a tumbstone: "Chuck and Carole - - October 27, 1974 to January 13, 2005"  I think I will always consider myself married to her, regardless of what the judge and paperwork says.

She was not happy, I had to let her go.  She has now found someone who makes her somewhat happy, I have to accept him and encourage her to continue on with him. (Woe be if he EVER mistreats her!!!)

It is said that when one door closes, another one opens up.  I don't see that happening.  Hell, I can't even SEE another door, never mind it opening.  The only door I see is the one that is closed, behind me.  That is probably the only door I will ever see.

But, for my love of her, I WILL do anything that she needs.

Oh, well, let me put my clown face back on, and paint that smile there again.  SEE!!!  I am smiling!  I am happy!  I am fine ...

Chuckles the Clown ...

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by sandie99 on Feb 4th, 2005, 1:27am
Well, I think the "ideal" love is the kind we see in the movies. Real love is rarely like that.
That said, I do think that few of my friends do seem to think that if their partner doesn't behave just like in the movies, it's time to go the splitsville... I'm more realistic than that. But I do enjoy my romcoms every now and then.... ;;D

What comes to the things I have done for love, well, I like to spoil the people I love... But truly, what I appreciate the most are the little everyday things.

Best wishes,
Sandie

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by AlienSpaceBabe on Feb 4th, 2005, 1:33am

on 02/04/05 at 01:27:40, sandie99 wrote:
What comes to the things I have done for love, well, I like to spoil the people I love... But truly, what I appreciate the most are the little everyday things.

Best wishes,
Sandie


Well said, Sandie!

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Woobie on Feb 4th, 2005, 2:13am

on 02/02/05 at 23:39:29, AlienSpaceBabe wrote:
.

What would I do? Probably anything....
If it's real, then things aren't sacrifices....
I'd live in a thatched hut with no running water....  
I'd move across the country...



Really????  You'd live like that??  
I'm sorry - but MY man has to have some electricity ;;D... I don't think I could love that much to live like that....  
LMAO!

And moving across country -  holy bats......




Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Langa on Feb 4th, 2005, 9:08am

on 02/04/05 at 00:52:20, ClusterChuck wrote:
I thought long and hard on this, as to whether to post or not.  Decided to go ahead with it.

My wife ex-wife (boy that is hard to get used to saying) is a diabetic.  I used to give her her shots, and many nights jump up and get her some sugar item as she was in insulin shock.  

Once, after serious surgery, I had to changed her napkins and cleaned her up after using the bedpan, as she was too weak to do it on her own.  But that is not the hardest thing I ever did for her, out of love.

The hardest and most painful thing was leaving her, after 28 years of marriage, when she told me she wanted me out.  I never saw it coming.  And then after 30 years, 2 months, and 17 days, the divorce was finalized.  I thought I was all cried out about this, until those papers came in the mail.  It is like a tumbstone: "Chuck and Carole - - October 27, 1974 to January 13, 2005"  I think I will always consider myself married to her, regardless of what the judge and paperwork says.

She was not happy, I had to let her go.  She has now found someone who makes her somewhat happy, I have to accept him and encourage her to continue on with him. (Woe be if he EVER mistreats her!!!)

It is said that when one door closes, another one opens up.  I don't see that happening.  Hell, I can't even SEE another door, never mind it opening.  The only door I see is the one that is closed, behind me.  That is probably the only door I will ever see.

But, for my love of her, I WILL do anything that she needs.

Oh, well, let me put my clown face back on, and paint that smile there again.  SEE!!!  I am smiling!  I am happy!  I am fine ...

Chuckles the Clown ...


My sweet Chuck...I think you're beautiful...inside and out...and I do believe that when one door closes, another one opens...and you can be happy again.

Love ya,
Langa


Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by john_d on Feb 4th, 2005, 10:42am

on 02/04/05 at 00:52:20, ClusterChuck wrote:
I thought long and hard on this, as to whether to post or not.  Decided to go ahead with it.

My wife ex-wife (boy that is hard to get used to saying) is a diabetic.  I used to give her her shots, and many nights jump up and get her some sugar item as she was in insulin shock.  

Once, after serious surgery, I had to changed her napkins and cleaned her up after using the bedpan, as she was too weak to do it on her own.  But that is not the hardest thing I ever did for her, out of love.

The hardest and most painful thing was leaving her, after 28 years of marriage, when she told me she wanted me out.  I never saw it coming.  And then after 30 years, 2 months, and 17 days, the divorce was finalized.  I thought I was all cried out about this, until those papers came in the mail.  It is like a tumbstone: "Chuck and Carole - - October 27, 1974 to January 13, 2005"  I think I will always consider myself married to her, regardless of what the judge and paperwork says.

She was not happy, I had to let her go.  She has now found someone who makes her somewhat happy, I have to accept him and encourage her to continue on with him. (Woe be if he EVER mistreats her!!!)

It is said that when one door closes, another one opens up.  I don't see that happening.  Hell, I can't even SEE another door, never mind it opening.  The only door I see is the one that is closed, behind me.  That is probably the only door I will ever see.

But, for my love of her, I WILL do anything that she needs.

Oh, well, let me put my clown face back on, and paint that smile there again.  SEE!!!  I am smiling!  I am happy!  I am fine ...

Chuckles the Clown ...


damn I like this guy

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by cat14 on Feb 4th, 2005, 10:47am

on 02/04/05 at 10:42:09, john_d wrote:
damn I like this guy




WOW! :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by guesst on Feb 4th, 2005, 10:48am
Chuck I love you brother.  :'(  (seriously, not joking around you are a wonderful man, hoping time will heal your wounded heart.)

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by Woobie on Feb 4th, 2005, 11:03am
Hey Chuck - i dont know HOW i missed your post.........

:-*  I love you man~!

She's a fool to let you go!


Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by AlienSpaceBabe on Feb 4th, 2005, 11:29am

on 02/04/05 at 00:52:20, ClusterChuck wrote:
She was not happy, I had to let her go.  She has now found someone who makes her somewhat happy, I have to accept him and encourage her to continue on with him. (Woe be if he EVER mistreats her!!!)


It takes a very strong man to let someone go....


on 02/04/05 at 00:52:20, ClusterChuck wrote:
It is said that when one door closes, another one opens up.  I don't see that happening.  Hell, I can't even SEE another door, never mind it opening.  The only door I see is the one that is closed, behind me.  That is probably the only door I will ever see.


Sometimes you don't see it, Chuck....
I do believe that it's there....
It will find you... show you... when it's time and you're ready....


on 02/04/05 at 00:52:20, ClusterChuck wrote:
Oh, well, let me put my clown face back on, and paint that smile there again.  SEE!!!  I am smiling!  I am happy!  I am fine ...

Chuckles the Clown ...


Chuck: to deal, you have to feel....
It hurts to feel it....
and rejection always hurts...

Go ahead and feel it... let it sink in... then you can deal with it and eventually move on.... (JMHO)

Be yourself. We're here for you. Thank you for sharing!

[smiley=hug.gif]   Lizzie

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by catlind on Feb 4th, 2005, 12:45pm

on 02/04/05 at 02:13:04, Woobie wrote:
And moving across country -  holy bats......


How about moving to a whole NEW country?  That's what I did.

Cat

Title: Re: "Real Love"
Post by ClusterChuck on Feb 4th, 2005, 1:11pm

on 02/04/05 at 11:03:25, Woobie wrote:
She's a fool to let you go!


Not if I didn't make her happy.  

She is a good woman, and deserves to be happy.  If I don't do it, then she should find someone who does.

I always thought I did make her happy, but guess I was walking around with my head up my ass.

How true is the statement: "Hindsight is 20/20 ..."

So many "If only .. .. .. 's"

Chuck



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