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(Message started by: Peppermint on Jan 17^th, 2005, 10:24pm)

Title: Asking for some real help.
Post by Peppermint on Jan 17^th, 2005, 10:24pm

I have been around more clusterheads than any non-cluster having, non-cluster-true-supporting-person that I know. I have read enough on this board to know what kinds of crisis happen, when people have had enough, and when to say fuck it I need to say something and I don't give a shit who likes it.

This is one of those times. I'm sorry if you don't like it but its not about me.

A fellow clusterhead of yours is in and has been in a real crisis for some time now. This probably applies to more than one person reading this, but this is about specifically one person.

If you are in Texas and want to help one of your sisters that is on the brink of a deep breakdown, vibes are not needed. Don't send flowers.

In the Dallas area, if you know of a women's service or know of someone that can help single woman in money and health crisis, a pantry that will put food on the table for her and her children, a counselor that will help to walk this person out of the depths of despair, please send me a pm.

She has tried family to no avail, and she is at the point where she honestly feels she cannot help herself, and that there is nowhere to turn. I cannot go there right now, I wish I could. But I will do the best I can by asking you all as fellow clusterheads of hers and women that may have been down the same road, for resources to access at this time. Anything that will help temporarily for relief until there is a plan of action, will help.

I'm looking for stuff online but if you know of anything, please, please either email or IM me as soon as you can. I am really worried here, and NO we're not related and I'm not making this shit up for attention.

Any info you can send this way is truly truly appreciated.

Pep

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by BarbaraG on Jan 17^th, 2005, 10:57pm

Peppermint, thanks for posting to let us know someone is in need of our help. Maybe we can send donations to her. Let me know how I can help. BarbG

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Peppermint on Jan 17^th, 2005, 11:04pm

Barb, that would be the quickest way to help with the situation at least temporarily, for sure. If people can do that, by all means.

If it comes to people wanting to do that, I can get her address, (I didn't realize i left her name off before, but you know Its Donna D. ) to organize that.

I asked for resources because Idon't know what people can do out there. Donna is getting hit pretty bad and has nothing to help her, she's out of medical insurance and her boss is shafting her again with bad checks. Talk about taking advantage of someone. >:(

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by broomhilda on Jan 17^th, 2005, 11:21pm

Bump for a friend....

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by BarbaraG on Jan 17^th, 2005, 11:28pm

Let her know help is on the way :) BarbG

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Racer1_NC on Jan 17^th, 2005, 11:52pm

Something going out tomorrow........

Bill

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Peppermint on Jan 18^th, 2005, 6:45am

******bump

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by hilbily on Jan 18^th, 2005, 7:19am

Could you contact a local church on her behalf? There are many people out there willing to help if they know of a need. Jim

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by catlind on Jan 18^th, 2005, 8:20am

Texas Dept of Human services, Dallas, Family Violence Shelters, The family place (214) 559-2170 hotline (214) 941-1991

Texas abuse resources:
http://www.brokenspirits.com/directory/index.cfm?loc=TX

Domestic Family Violence resources:
http://www.dallas-divorce-lawyer.com/family_violence_dallas_shelter.htm

Salvation army:
http://www.salvationarmysouth.org/TX.htm

Food bank:
North Texas Food Bank
4306 Shilling Way
Dallas, TX 75237
tel: (214)330-1396

These are all contacts that can help Donna to get things sorted out and protect herself.

When I first decided to leave my first husband, they had me go into an emergency shelter for mine and the kids safety. I elected to not go into the live in shelter, but they helped me get subsidized housing, food and clothing for the kids. They made sure I had all the right things in place to ensure the safest and best outcome for myself and my kids.

This was done in Canada and I know the US is different, but they are very good resources that can help.

Cat

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Jan 18^th, 2005, 8:26am

Pep - please check your PM's.

Thanks
Carol

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by nani on Jan 18^th, 2005, 8:50am

bump

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by kimh on Jan 18^th, 2005, 9:17am

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COS (Catholic Outreach Services) serves the needy of San Angelo...

Sponsored by the five Catholic parishes in San Angelo & working in concert with local churches of various denominations and city social service agencies. COS offers a place where needy citizens can get food, clothing and assistance with such things as rent & utility or medical bills. Food, clothing and funding comes almost exclusively from parish support and private donations. With the exception of a paid director, the store at 102 North Chadbourne depends entirely on dedicated volunteers to keep its doors open

Pep, I lost your # - call me when you get a chance. I'm home this evening***Donna can start with the numbers available above to find the closest place to her. Well wishes and best luck to Donna
Kim

PS: Outreach can also help people troubleshoot with job hunting!!!!

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Margi on Jan 18^th, 2005, 9:43am

**bump for Donna

You're a good girl, Patty. Thanks for always being on the job. :-*

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Peppermint on Jan 18^th, 2005, 10:06am

ok i'm at work so i am going to do this quick - if I don't respond right away its because i can't.

thanks for all the pm's .
if you want to send her paypal for those who are asking where to send some cash, she has a card where she can access her paypal fund right away.
the NEW paypal address is :

smileyone1968@yahoo.com

For western union I wouldn't post her address but if you want her address specifically to send anything at all, I can email you, please email me directly at

peppermint2867@yahoo.com,
its not wise for me to spend a lot of time on here while I'm at work, however I am allowed to go to the yahoo site. ::) stupid rules.

I think any type of care package you want to send is welcome, Donna was really distraught, and those who jumped at this last night, I just want to tell you she went right out to get groceries. not having a sitter is tough.

I fielded a lot of folks messages last night so thank you ladies who came up with the links and info for her - she has a job but her paychecks are bogus so I say its time to move on, this has become mUCH bigger than her problems with her EX if you can fathom that. He's the least of her worries now.

Gotta jump boss is getting back, send email.

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by john_d on Jan 18^th, 2005, 10:28am

DD check your smileyone1968@yahoo.com email. John D

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by nani on Jan 18^th, 2005, 11:12am

It's also possible to send money via Western Union. Although there is a charge for it. PayPal may be cheaper. If you want to Western Union PM me for her full name.
All help is much appreciated. :)

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by AlienSpaceBabe on Jan 18^th, 2005, 11:24am

Regarding the bad pay/compensation checks your employer wrote, Donna:

SPECIAL KINDS OF CHECKS
Payroll Checks

You may present a bounced payroll check for prosecution of issuance of a bad check. A payroll check is not prosecutable as theft by check. You can also contact that Texas Workforce Commission at 1-800-832-0243 to determine what recourse is available to you through that agency.

http://www.co.lubbock.tx.us/CDA/hot_checks.htm

Texas has, since its inception as a nation in 1836 and its later incorporation into the United States, been a jurisdiction that is kind to debtors. This is in contrast to the practices of other states that are much more pro-creditor.

Many of the Americans who came to Texas during the initial Anglo settlement of the area came to start a new life and left behind their old life, including their debts. The letters "GTT" left scrawled on one's door in Kentucky amounted to a form of de facto bankruptcy making it clear to any creditors left behind that their extension of credit was an unwise one.

The nature of the founders of Texas has much to do with its liberal laws in favor of debtors. Considerable protection for debtors is contained in the Texas Constitution. Considerable property is exempt from seizure to pay judgments, for example. The majority of people in Texas are, in fact, judgment proof, meaning that all of the property they own is exempt from seizure to pay debts nor can wages be garnished form payment of most debts.

Our criminal laws are drafted in a way that acknowledges and expands the pro-debtor bias of the constitution. For example, the definitions regarding theft explicitly state that deception for purposes of the theft statute does not include mere failure to perform on one's contracts. Another example is a provision in the probation laws of this state (now called community supervision) which prohibit a judge from revoking probation of a defendant (and imprisoning him) if he/she fails to pay restitution if that defendant can show that he/she is unable to pay restitution.

The law of Issuance of a Bad Check makes it a crime to write a bad check, even if the check is for payment of a pre-exiting debt, but (with the narrow exception of checks written for child support) it carries no imprisonment as punishment. The maximum punishment, in fact, is a fine of $500.00.

With the foregoing historical background, it is easy to understand that Texas does not criminalize the owing of a debt. If a bad check is given to pay a debt, the issuance of that check, while it may be a criminal offense, is not a theft. Instead, it is the non-imprisonment offense of Issuance of a Bad Check.

Phrased another way, a bad check is a lie. If the person who wrote the check led you to believe it was a good check, yet knew it was not good, he or she lied to you. The lie is punished as Issuance of a Bad Check. On the other hand, if a person lies to you in order to get you to give them property or services and you give them the property or services because you believed the lie, the person committed a theft.

Lying with checks and stealing with checks are two separate offenses. Lying about whether a check is good (and introducing it into commerce) is Issuance of a Bad Check . Using a bad check to deceive another out of his/her property is theft. The other check offense involves signing another person's name on a check. That crime is Forgery if done with intent to defraud.

Although in most cases a check given for a pre-existing debt does not meet the requirements for a theft charge, a very narrow exception exists. IF the check writer obtained possession of additional merchandise or secured the performance of further service because he/she paid a pre-existing debt, then the check writer may have stolen the additional merchandise or the further service if he/she would not have been able to obtain the merchandise or service without paying the existing debt. If you think your check may qualify as a theft even though its purpose was for payment of a pre-existing debt because the check writer secured further merchandise or services by writing the check, you may contact us

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by LeLimey on Jan 18^th, 2005, 12:40pm

We all love Donna.. lets show it

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by byoung111 on Jan 18^th, 2005, 3:07pm

Our thoughts and donations go out to you. Thank you Peppermint for letting us know.

Brian

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by nani on Jan 18^th, 2005, 4:12pm

*bump*

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by broomhilda on Jan 18^th, 2005, 6:21pm

big bump....

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by nani on Jan 18^th, 2005, 7:06pm

bumpin' again

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by BlueMeanie on Jan 18^th, 2005, 8:02pm

I have a couple of ideas floating around for the meet & greet. Hopefully we can help the little Clusterhead girl from Texas. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Peppermint on Jan 18^th, 2005, 9:19pm

on 01/18/05 at 20:02:23, BlueMeanie wrote:

I have a couple of ideas floating around for the meet & greet. Hopefully we can help the little Clusterhead girl from Texas. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Um, not sure what you mean. [smiley=huh.gif]

On behalf of Donna, thanks to all of you for the way you have been so supportive, and for being generous with your pockets as well. I will let her thank you in depth on her own, she just asked me to mention how overwhelmed and grateful she was.

I'm really struck by the responses personally....

I think its really important that the information here is put to good use. I am just getting home to look here, and all those women's services posted by you Kimh and Catlind.... those things are PRICELESS. You know it and I know it. Anyone else that can post short term resources leading to long term solutions, that is invaluable, please do.

It's a scratch and claw world sometimes.... time to get to the scratching post D.

Love you guys, (lo and behold a warm and fuzzy, what the fuck)

Pep

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Jayne on Jan 18^th, 2005, 9:42pm

keep those donations coming for our cluster sister!
She has worked sooooooo hard for us with Ouch and helped many on the phone and through email, now it's her turn to receive.

DONNA FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by BarbaraG on Jan 18^th, 2005, 11:44pm

bumpity bumpity bumpity ;;D ;;D ;;D

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Peppermint on Jan 19^th, 2005, 1:59pm

bump for DD.

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by broomhilda on Jan 19^th, 2005, 4:38pm

I found a couple more links to look into the first one is interesting as it has child development programs ie preschool and after school care and other resources, the second for child care services in the area, many seems to offer subsidies?

http://www.familyplace.org/aboutus.html

http://phonebook.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Child+Care+Services/S-TX/T-Dallas/

Thinking about you Donna :-*

edit to add one more listing, lists many agencies in the area

http://www.familycaregiversonline.com/nonprofits_dallas.html

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Tiannia on Jan 19^th, 2005, 6:17pm

Food Banks in texas
http://www.austinfoodbank.org/
http://www.ntxfoodbank.org/
http://www.etexfoodbank.org/
http://www.tafb.org/
http://www.myweb.cableone.net/WTFB/
http://www.dhs.state.tx.us/programs/snp/texcap_csfp/

Domestic Violence State Resources Texas
http://www.angelfire.com/ar/LRfuzz1/shelters/dvsrtx.html

Texas Selters
http://www.dhs.state.tx.us/programs/familyviolence/shelters.html

I am sorry until I know for sure that I am starting my new job I dont have any extra money. I know that when I worked for the Suicide and Rape Hotline in Reno, that we had resource numbers for all over the country to assist people to get back home and get back on their feet. You might want to look into things in that area. It is normally an 800 number of some sort in the phone book. They are not only there to help with suicide, but to also help get you the help and resourses that you need.

DD You have always ben there to help everyone, take some time to get the help that you need.

-Tia

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by nani on Jan 19^th, 2005, 7:53pm

***BUMP*** :)

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by nani on Jan 20^th, 2005, 6:30am

bump

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by nani on Jan 20^th, 2005, 2:57pm

BUMP

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Renee on Jan 20^th, 2005, 10:46pm

I live 25 minutes from DD but never saw this thread. :-[

Next time....someone call me, please!!!

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Peppermint on Jan 20^th, 2005, 10:49pm

Sorry Renee... i should've asked.. and I didn't have your number... but I ass-u-med you'd have seen it.....
[smiley=bag.gif]

Title: Re: Asking for some real help.
Post by Renee on Jan 20^th, 2005, 10:56pm

check your pm's....you and nani both have my number now. DD should have had it as well. I'll give her a ring.

I was a bit under the weather (head in toilet) for the first couple of days this week thus wasn't checking the boards as often.