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(Message started by: aceserve on Jan 10^th, 2005, 12:59pm)

Title: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by aceserve on Jan 10^th, 2005, 12:59pm

Have any of you cluster-headache sufferers used hallucinogens before getting the headaches? I used LSD and magic mushrooms when I was younger quite a bit, and the year after I quit using those drugs, in 1978, I had my first cycle of cluster headaches (of course, they were not diagnosed as such until many years later). Since a study will be done on whether mushrooms or acid can break up a CH cycle, there does seem to be a link between CHs and hallucinogens. I wonder if having used the drugs previously set some type of seratonin flow out of whack, bringing on the CH cycles (they occur every couple of years) once I quit using those strong drugs. Of course, many CH sufferers never used hallucinogens previously, but I'd be interested to know, of those who did, whether their experiences mirror mine at all. Rgds. Andrew

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by Jimmy_B on Jan 10^th, 2005, 1:06pm

Never used any illegal drug, stronger then "Pot" and I have clusters....so either I'm one of the few or it blows that theory out of the water. or someone slipped some "blotter" in my drink when I wasn't looking. ;;D

Also, I started my clusters when I was 14...about 2 to 3 years before I even tried "Pot".

Jimmy

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by vig on Jan 10^th, 2005, 1:19pm

perhaps your use at the time was keeping them away, and when you stopped, CH proceeded.

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by JJA on Jan 10^th, 2005, 1:24pm

My clusters started before my "experimental" years.

I doubt it there is a causative connection, otherwise you'd have seen a lot of oxygen tanks (instead of nitrous) at Grateful Dead shows.

Jesse

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by aceserve on Jan 10^th, 2005, 1:30pm

on 01/10/05 at 13:19:32, vig wrote:

perhaps your use at the time was keeping them away, and when you stopped, CH proceeded.

Good point!

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by ccbiggsoo7 on Jan 11^th, 2005, 1:11am

Well, now I don't have to ask that question anymore!

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by CC2004 on Jan 11^th, 2005, 7:12am

on 01/10/05 at 13:24:14, JJA wrote:

My clusters started before my "experimental" years.
...
Jesse

me too, by 5 years or so
CC

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by aceserve on Jan 11^th, 2005, 11:52am

on 01/11/05 at 07:12:45, CC2004 wrote:

me too, by 5 years or so
CC

And after you started experimenting, did that delay or eliminate cycles which you believe you may normally have experienced otherwise? Thanks.

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by EmpressJMB on Jan 11^th, 2005, 12:01pm

Hi Andrew! My CH started a year BEFORE I took hallucinogens. Janet

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by JJA on Jan 11^th, 2005, 12:13pm

on 01/11/05 at 11:52:32, aceserve wrote:

And after you started experimenting, did that delay or eliminate cycles which you believe you may normally have experienced otherwise? Thanks.

In retrospect, I'd have to guess yes.

Jesse

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by aceserve on Jan 11^th, 2005, 12:47pm

These personal histories on the use of hallucinogens and possible effects on CH cycles are interesting -- we're getting a jump on the Harvard study here! I apologize for raising the topic in two message boards, but thought it was being missed in the Harvard study board (where I first raised the topic) which hadn't been used in a while.

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by JJA on Jan 11^th, 2005, 1:06pm

Have you been to http://www.clusterbusters.com yet?

Jesse

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by Karla on Jan 11^th, 2005, 1:12pm

I used tons of acid before getting ch. I quit tripping and went off all drugs. About 4 years latter I got hit with cluster headaches for the first time and was chronic. I doubt if it is related.

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by aceserve on Jan 11^th, 2005, 3:14pm

on 01/11/05 at 13:12:54, Karla wrote:

I used tons of acid before getting ch. I quit tripping and went off all drugs. About 4 years latter I got hit with cluster headaches for the first time and was chronic. I doubt if it is related.

Hi, and thanks for responding.
I am curious to know whether there is a higher proportion of those who used hallucinogens among CH people than among the general population. No way to find out unless a serious study is done, of course. Regards.

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by CC2004 on Jan 11^th, 2005, 4:45pm

on 01/11/05 at 11:52:32, aceserve wrote:

And after you started experimenting, did that delay or eliminate cycles which you believe you may normally have experienced otherwise? Thanks.

cant remember ::)
there should be a "brain-fried" smilie ;;D

Title: Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
Post by Donna_D. on Jan 12^th, 2005, 4:47am

on 01/11/05 at 16:45:39, CC2004 wrote:

cant remember ::)
there should be a "brain-fried" smilie ;;D

http://tinypic.com/18g3m9

;;D

DD