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(Message started by: don on Dec 30th, 2004, 5:02pm)
Title: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 30th, 2004, 5:02pm
When I get home I will be installing a DSL kit in my puter.

What am I in for?

How do I know if I have an ethernet card?

If I dont and I install the kit can I still get on line until I go get one?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by eddie on Dec 30th, 2004, 5:07pm
you are gonna buy it and get a disk with it
but you should know if you have one
you will be glad you have it
eddie
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 30th, 2004, 5:18pm
I already bought the kit.

The question is "How bad can I fuck this up"?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by eddie on Dec 30th, 2004, 5:24pm
you should be able to do it don, but dont make me
lie to ya it will be in control panel
good luck







your ISP provider can walk you thru it
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 30th, 2004, 5:27pm
I agree with Jonny... RTFM... A few things to consider though... Is it a USB DSL "modem"?  If it is... All you'll need is a USB port in your 'puter.  Is it a PCI DSL "modem"?  You'll need to open the 'puter case, and install it into a spare PCI slot, but you shouldn't need an ethernet card.  Either case, follow the instructions to install it, and you should be ok.

Now... For an external, ethernet DSL "modem"... Look at the back of your 'puter.  Look for a port that looks like a big phone line port (It'll be a slightly smaller than twice the size of a normal phone line port.)  If you don't have one, you'll have to install an ethernet adapter before you can install the DSL kit.  If the kit doesn't include one, you can purchase one at an office supply or computer supply store (Staples, Office Max, etc...) or even Wal-Mart maybe.  It shouldn't cost too much, although many stores sell them at overly inflated prices.  Just follow the instructions that come with the adapter.  Good luck!

PFDAN.................................... Drk^Angel
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sylvan on Dec 30th, 2004, 5:37pm

Quote:
When I get home I will be installing a DSL kit in my puter.


Welcome to the 21st century


Quote:
What am I in for?


Dunno - do you have any hair left? If yes - you may not soon. Strongly recommend you aqcuire a 12 year old to help.


Quote:
How do I know if I have an ethernet card?


Look at the back of your machine. If there is something that looks like a telephone jack - only larger (8 wires instead of 4) then you have one. If not - go to Radio Shack or Comp-USA or Staples and buy one. Another option is a USB adapter. If you have a USB port available you can convert it to accept an ethernet connection.


Quote:
If I dont and I install the kit can I still get on line until I go get one?


Not with the DSL. If you still have a dial up connection - you will be able to use that until you reconfigure your system to use the DSL.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by forgetfulnot on Dec 30th, 2004, 6:48pm
DSL sucks, trade it in for a cable connection, 4-5 times faster.

Lee
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 30th, 2004, 7:55pm
The kit looks simple enough. External modem.

But I dont have an ethernet adaptor so I assume I dont have an ethernet card either.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Bethany1 on Dec 30th, 2004, 7:57pm
ethernet, sounds like a medical term.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Dec 30th, 2004, 8:03pm

on 12/30/04 at 18:48:04, forgetfulnot wrote:
DSL sucks, trade it in for a cable connection, 4-5 times faster.

Lee


Really, Let me check,

They want $10,000 to run a cable line to my house,

Then they want to charge me $15 more a month than my DSL cost.

I think I will stick with my DSL, it maybe slow but I can still pull in a 700 MB ISO in a night.



Don,
  My Modem has both eithernet and USB, if you don't have eithernet, get it, and get a broad band router, then not only can all your computers go online, but you won't be getting hit with all those windows worms.

Opus/Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 30th, 2004, 8:06pm

Quote:
sounds like a medical term.


There could be a lot of terminology being used before I'm done here.


Quote:
and get a broad band router,


OK but I only have one puter. Get it anyway?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Jonny on Dec 30th, 2004, 8:10pm
Heres a stupid question

Do you have cable now?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by forgetfulnot on Dec 30th, 2004, 8:17pm

on 12/30/04 at 20:03:16, Opus wrote:
Really, Let me check,

They want $10,000 to run a cable line to my house,

Then they want to charge me $15 more a month than my DSL cost.

I think I will stick with my DSL, it maybe slow but I can still pull in a 700 MB ISO in a night.



Don,
  My Modem has both eithernet and USB, if you don't have eithernet, get it, and get a broad band router, then not only can all your computers go online, but you won't be getting hit with all those windows worms.

Opus/Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]


As I understand it Don lives right in the middle of Boston, therefore your argument ($10,000) is moot. Cable is about 15.00 mo more but when downloading it makes DSL seem like 56K.

Lee
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Dec 30th, 2004, 8:17pm
Dear Don,

Despite that fact that you may not be computer savvy, you must have a ISP that's providing you with the kit.  Am I right?  After all, you can't have a DSL without the ISP.

This means that somewhere out there, there is a technical support team just waiting to help you.  Of course, they might not speak English, but they will apologize 1,000,000 times for not being able to answer your questions in a language you understand.

BTW - if you have a computer purchased within the last few years, it should have an ethernet card built in.

Kris
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 30th, 2004, 8:21pm
I have cable but its for the entire house and not in my name. Too much hassle.

Isp and kit provider is ATT.

If there is no ethernet adaptor I assume there is no card either.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Not4Hire on Dec 30th, 2004, 8:48pm
...ask Mr Happy.

..if you understand/get/ or have ever laughed at his twisted brand of humor, you will probably find some type of relief/happy ending/ or even terminal meltdown of your computer system.

on the other hand:

"Of course, they (RJ)  might not speak English, but they (he) will apologize 1,000,000 times for not being able to answer your questions in a language you understand. "

...and then he will insult your intelligence by telling you to "Re-boot, ya dumbass!!"

(don't ask me how bad I fucked up installing a wireless network....my neighbors now come over to complain about the "companionship sites" that appear when they are trying to access Texas Tractor Times.com and Bubba.net...)
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 30th, 2004, 8:55pm

Quote:
(he) will apologize 1,000,000 times


Dont say that about my pal Hap!

Randy just called.

He called pig face, fuck nuts, fuck head, ball bag, scum bucket, and an illiterate maroon.

Never apologized once.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Dec 30th, 2004, 8:59pm
And which of those terms of endearment did not apply? ;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by unsolved1 on Dec 30th, 2004, 9:06pm
Dumb Slow Line

BROADBAND ROCKS !!

http://cluster.home.insightbb.com/bbspeed.jpg


Unsolved
*'free' installation, 'free' modem, but at a heft $44.95 month fee
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Dec 30th, 2004, 9:09pm

on 12/30/04 at 20:17:16, forgetfulnot wrote:
As I understand it Don lives right in the middle of Boston, therefore your argument ($10,000) is moot. Cable is about 15.00 mo more but when downloading it makes DSL seem like 56K.

Lee




Lee,
 Lighten up it was a joke, but really most people forget that not everyone can get cable.

Opus/Paul
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Jonny on Dec 30th, 2004, 9:26pm

on 12/30/04 at 21:09:35, Opus wrote:
Lee,
 Lighten up it was a joke,


;;D <<<<<<<ussually means joke

Lack of means your serious....get it?

..............................................jonny
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by brain_cramps on Dec 30th, 2004, 9:36pm
Cable vs DSL

http://tinyurl.com/6jcln

So which service is faster, cable modem or DSL? No single answer will suffice for everyone. Cable's theoretical bandwidth limits are higher (but you'll never reach them), and because it's not dependent on distance from a central office, it's more consistent from user to user--unless your next-door neighbor is Blackbeard the MP3 pirate. With DSL, you'll generally get higher speeds the closer you live to the phone company's central office.

...

You thought Bush vs. Gore in 2000 was a squeaker? Cable vs. DSL is even closer.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

I have used both in more than one city and had varying results.  At one time I had both (working from home) and cable was faster at certain times of day.  As noted above, the performance can depend on your neighbors' usage.  

Other factors include how many users are using the same hub (DSL or cable) and how far you are from that hub. (DSL)

Currently, I have DSL because of the difference in price.  It is slightly slower when downloading but I don't have the typical slowdown between 5PM and 9PM that I did with cable when a lot more users on that hub were getting home from work or school.

YMMV

grant  
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 30th, 2004, 9:40pm
So in a general sense.

How much faster can I expect the DSL to be over the 56K Dial up?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by brain_cramps on Dec 30th, 2004, 9:41pm

on 12/30/04 at 21:40:47, don wrote:
So in a general sense.

How much faster can I expect the DSL to be over the 56K Dial up?



like night and day!
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Dec 30th, 2004, 10:11pm
Its faster, just not fast like cable. If you have the extra 15 bucks a month its better than DSL. But hell you'll love DSL just the same because your going from dial up and haven't experienced cable yet. The best part about DSL is that you can still use your telephone to talk to jonny, and be zinging him online at the same time ;;D. <<<<<<<<<<that was a joke ;;D

Sean...................................
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Mr. Happy on Dec 30th, 2004, 11:11pm

on 12/30/04 at 22:11:55, Sean_C wrote:
Its faster, just not fast like cable.

Damnit, Sean, you nitwit..........he can barely compare apples with oranges, let alone kiwi's and figs. Either you plug and play it, or you plug it and it don't play.

Quote:
How much faster can I expect the DSL to be over the 56K Dial up?

You'll be able to download virus's in nano-seconds.

We're talking Don here,
RJ
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Bob P on Dec 31st, 2004, 7:02am
Don,
The modem comes with an eithernet cord.  If you have a jack on the back of your pooter that it fits in, you're in business.  If not, you can buy an eithernet card for $10-$20 at any electronics place.

To install the card you need to have an empty PCI slot (look at the back of the pooter and see if there are any 1/2" x 4" blank metal dealies were the rest of your jacks are.  You just unplug your pooter, take the side off the case, remove the blank cover and plug the card into the mother board.  You now have eithernet.

A router is added protection for your pooter.  They run advanced firewalls.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 31st, 2004, 11:20am
Alrighty then. Just picked up the ethernet card.

Will be viewing........"classical movies".......soon. LOL
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Jonny on Dec 31st, 2004, 11:29am

on 12/31/04 at 11:20:04, don wrote:
Will be viewing........"classical movies".......soon. LOL


Yeah, and im sure the sound track will be full of show tunes ;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Dec 31st, 2004, 12:22pm

on 12/31/04 at 11:20:04, don wrote:
Will be viewing........"Rock Hudson classical movies".......soon. LOL


::)

Sean......................... ;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 31st, 2004, 4:00pm
Everything is installed and hooked up.

The computer isn't recognizing the Ethernet card.

Ehternet software disk says the driver installed successfully?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Dec 31st, 2004, 4:06pm

on 12/31/04 at 16:00:46, don wrote:
Everything is installed and hooked up.

The computer isn't recognizing the Ethernet card.

Ehternet software disk says the driver installed successfully?


I am feeling generous.  Wanna call me?  PM me if so, newb.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Dec 31st, 2004, 4:18pm
Don is this you?

http://www.laughinglynx.com/movie2.php?id=58

Sean..................... ;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 31st, 2004, 4:20pm
I'm going to re install the card in another slot.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Dec 31st, 2004, 4:21pm

on 12/31/04 at 16:20:11, don wrote:
I'm going to re install the card in another slot.


You gettin sexual with that thing LMMFAO

Sean....................... [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Dec 31st, 2004, 4:30pm

on 12/31/04 at 16:00:46, don wrote:
Everything is installed and hooked up.

The computer isn't recognizing the Ethernet card.

Ehternet software disk says the driver installed successfully?


Don, it might be your phone line dude, call me I went through it too.

Sean....................
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 31st, 2004, 5:20pm
The problem is the puter not recognizing the card.

Think this is the problem?

Existing Ndis Driver

NDIS.VXD Device Loader Could Not Load the Driver

(Found that in the device manager)
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Dec 31st, 2004, 5:24pm
Are all your lights on, on the modem?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 31st, 2004, 5:27pm
Yup. Modem is fine.

When I go to the registration software it says no adaptor for a connection could be found.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by john_d on Dec 31st, 2004, 5:28pm
It's a tough one to advice over a message board.  You should take rock up on his offer, I bet he could help.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Dec 31st, 2004, 5:29pm
Thats because your phone line isn't sending the info to the puter

edit:How many wires are hooked to your phone jack that are working? You need four on verizon?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Dec 31st, 2004, 5:34pm
Nitwit,
What OS are you running?  XP?  98?  ME?

Love,
Lobster
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 31st, 2004, 5:49pm
98
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by forgetfulnot on Dec 31st, 2004, 6:29pm
By BC

Quote:
So which service is faster, cable modem or DSL? No single answer will suffice for everyone. Cable's theoretical bandwidth limits are higher (but you'll never reach them), and because it's not dependent on distance from a central office, it's more consistent from user to user--unless your next-door neighbor is Blackbeard the MP3 pirate. With DSL, you'll generally get higher speeds the closer you live to the phone company's central office.
best answer yet.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 31st, 2004, 7:15pm
The Linksys support Hindu just walked me through the same process I've been doing for 4 hours. Didn't work any better this time. So Habeeb contacts microsoft who say I need to get an updated bios from the puter Mfg. in order for the driver to load properly. Make sense? I dont know.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by john_d on Dec 31st, 2004, 7:39pm
Yes it does, you should be able to get it from the company website.  Just make sure you have a paper copy of the installation instructions and follow em to the letter.  Flashing the bios is different than most things.

Happy New Year
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Dec 31st, 2004, 8:13pm
You're getting good advice here, Don.  

However, if you ever thought you'd like to visit Michigan in January, just email me for directions.

Kris
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Racer1_NC on Dec 31st, 2004, 8:19pm
Don flashes Bios......Don's PC go poof!  ;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Dec 31st, 2004, 8:19pm
LOL,
 M$ always says to flash the Bios, that way when you waste your motherboard you will probably buy a new computer and pay the M$Windows tax. If the flash goes well, they will say you have to upgrade to the newest M$Windows, it's a win/win situation for them and you lose either way  ;;D(for jonny)

Opus/Paul
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Dec 31st, 2004, 8:23pm
You really do need to upgrade to XP, Don.

Kris
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kirk on Dec 31st, 2004, 8:25pm
Don, don't listen to Habeeb or M$. Take Rock up on his offer ya fucking N()()B.
Yer killing me here. If I laugh anymore I'll rupture something.

TTFN
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by unsolved1 on Dec 31st, 2004, 8:39pm
I thought Windows 98 was outlawed   [smiley=huh.gif]

j/k

;;D

UNsolved
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by john_d on Dec 31st, 2004, 8:59pm

on 12/31/04 at 20:19:31, Opus wrote:
LOL,
 M$ always says to flash the Bios, that way when you waste your motherboard you will probably buy a new computer and pay the M$Windows tax. If the flash goes well, they will say you have to upgrade to the newest M$Windows, it's a win/win situation for them and you lose either way  ;;D(for jonny)

Opus/Paul


lol, I wanna say your paranoid but you know, i'm almost afraid MS will prove me wrong.   ::)
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Dec 31st, 2004, 9:04pm

on 12/31/04 at 20:39:40, unsolved1 wrote:
I thought Windows 98 was outlawed   [smiley=huh.gif]


M$ threatened to stop support but they continued when they realized that many admins won't upgrade becouse M$ hasn't made anything better.

Don, stick with 98, you just may need a clean reinstall.

Opus/Paul
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by john_d on Dec 31st, 2004, 9:14pm
But 98 sux bro, it was not until Windows 2000 that they moved the home computer edition of Windows to the posix kernel of NT.  I am no big MS fan, but Win XP plug and play finds every device I have ever thrown at it, including motion tracking devices, directional trackers, and multiple DOF input devices, not your everyday off-the-shelf hardware.  

       
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Dec 31st, 2004, 9:20pm
John, to each his own,

After spending a few weeks in XP I actually came close to throwing the laptop, at least in 98 I could understand what was going on, and could make it very stable. XP just seems to always fight me. I guess I will stick to Linux where things are simpler, if it doesn't work try something else, not reinstall drivers 3 times and poof it works for no reason.

Opus/Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by john_d on Dec 31st, 2004, 9:25pm
Good choice. Linux rocks, no doubt.  :)
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Dec 31st, 2004, 9:26pm
I forgot,

 I finally was able to shrink the partition, install SUSE, and now I know the hardware is good, HP says after two weeks XP needs a clean install. For me I have far less problems with the Linux seeing hardware, than XP, even Win Modems are a snap in Linux, XP has good wifi drivers, but only after you force XP to keep it's nose out of control of the device.

Opus/Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 31st, 2004, 9:32pm
Clean re install. I agree. I am willing to dump right now but I dont have system discs.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Dec 31st, 2004, 9:51pm
Don,
  I could send you a Bootleg 98SE, but if I do I will also send Xandros  which you will have to promise to install too.

Opus/Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by purpleydog on Dec 31st, 2004, 10:08pm
Don, I have a brand new never been used win98 disc that I will never use. You want it? Send me your address, it's yours.  But, take Opus up on the Xandros, you'll like it.  ;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Dec 31st, 2004, 10:09pm
The caveman has some diskies on the way.  

But we should be able to straighten him out before then.  Been some time since most of us have used 98.

Let's laugh at him anyway.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by purpleydog on Dec 31st, 2004, 10:12pm
Now Wrokk, be nice...   ;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Dec 31st, 2004, 10:13pm

on 12/31/04 at 22:09:21, Rock_Lobster wrote:
Been some time since most of us have used 98.


Speak for yourself wrokk, I still use M$ finest when I need some added stress LOL. Actually, I am becoming fond on win95, simple, no frills and firefox runs on it.

Opus/Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 31st, 2004, 10:14pm
I feel so small.

So insignificant.

Youse guyz suck.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by purpleydog on Dec 31st, 2004, 10:17pm
Why thank you don!   ;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Not4Hire on Dec 31st, 2004, 10:33pm
...ok then, my Texas neighbors (Bubba.net/Tractor.com) just came over and tole me that some Yankee in Messachewsits just hacked their spankin' new Winders 3.0 computer they got fer Christmas... and some spam from a bathhouse keeps popping up on the screen.... and if I got anything to do with it, they're gonna kick my a$$.....

...don, please go back to dial-up..... yer causin' problems all over the place.....


Quote:
I already bought the kit.

The question is "How bad can I fuck this up"?


;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Dec 31st, 2004, 10:46pm

Quote:
The question is "How bad can I fuck this up"?


Guess I answered that question right quick and easy.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by purpleydog on Dec 31st, 2004, 11:27pm
BTW... XP sucks.

http://www.squatty.com/gallery/albums/UNIX/aao.jpg
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Dec 31st, 2004, 11:28pm

on 12/31/04 at 22:14:22, don wrote:
I feel so small.

So insignificant.

Youse guyz suck.



This is quoted from the Users Guide book, isn't it.

Opus/Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Racer1_NC on Jan 1st, 2005, 12:13pm
Now how did I know the Penguin Posse would jump on this thread???  ;;D

Bill
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kirk on Jan 1st, 2005, 1:52pm
Well I may as well degrade this thread some more then Racer.
http://mavnet.dynip.com/mavlistweb/att-0345/01-Linux-Tatoo.jpg
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 2nd, 2005, 9:44am
Do you think a USB adaptor would make a differance?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kirk on Jan 2nd, 2005, 11:41am
Both Ethernet and USB are faster than a DSL or Cable connection.

Niether is as fast as my 23.5 Ghz microwave connection.

TTFN
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 2nd, 2005, 11:47am
Now ya got me fucked up.

I thought usb and ethernet adaptors were for DSL.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kirk on Jan 2nd, 2005, 12:10pm
Use them for whatever floats yer boat. You can use either of them for DSL or cable.
Or a bunch of other things. Printers, cameras etc.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Jan 2nd, 2005, 12:15pm

on 01/02/05 at 11:47:31, don wrote:
Now ya got me fucked up.

I thought usb and ethernet adaptors were for DSL.


Heh heh heh.

You speak of a USB Ethernet Adapter.

Know that...

There is USB1.0, 1.1 & 2.0.  Your piece of shit, er, I mean, system likely only supports USB1.0.  So make sure whatever USB ethernet adapter you pick up supports USB1.0... and that the drivers for it do not specifically exclude win98.  

Or you could tell me the problem with your current ethernet card in a little bit more detail.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 2nd, 2005, 12:20pm
Simple.

I tried every available slot for the card. The system doesn't recognize an adaptor being present.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Jan 2nd, 2005, 12:32pm
Don,
 If this is a new card, make sure it doesn't say for PCI 2.1, if it does, it may not work with your machine, the best thing to do is go to your local computer shop and by a used 10/100 PCI eithernet adapter, or if you have USB. and the Modem takes it, then use that, you will need a install disk for the USB.

I will burn, and have your Disks in the mail tommorow.

Opus/Paul
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 2nd, 2005, 12:39pm
BINGO! I think.

Ethernet 10/100 requirements are a 2.2 compliant PCI slot.

From what I'm hearing here I am only good for 1.0 ?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Jan 2nd, 2005, 12:56pm

on 01/02/05 at 12:39:48, don wrote:
BINGO! I think.

Ethernet 10/100 requirements are a 2.2 compliant PCI slot.

From what I'm hearing here I am only good for 1.0 ?



Yes PCI 2.2 won't work, you will need a PCI 2.0 card, a used one is probaby the best.

Opus/Paul
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Jan 2nd, 2005, 1:50pm
Paul is right.

But do not confuse what I was saying about USB1.0/1.1/2.0 and what Paul is saying about PCI2.0/2.2.  Same kinda issue, but a different issue.

I have an ancient Ethernet card sitting in front of me right now that I can send out.  But as Paul indicated, at any PC-building shop they probably have an old one they will let you have for $5.  Let me know.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Jan 2nd, 2005, 1:52pm

on 01/02/05 at 12:20:15, don wrote:
Simple.

I tried every available slot for the card. The system doesn't recognize an adaptor being present.


I feel like where talking about my marital sex life ;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by purpleydog on Jan 2nd, 2005, 2:26pm

on 01/02/05 at 13:52:00, Sean_C wrote:
I feel like where talking about my marital sex life ;;D


Your marital sex life? You have another?
Wait, I don't really need to know that...    ;)
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Drk^Angel on Jan 2nd, 2005, 5:12pm
Hey... No fair... My wife told me that there's no such thing as a marital sex life...

PFDAN................................. Drk^Angel
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Jonny on Jan 2nd, 2005, 6:58pm
WTF!!!!

84 replies and this stupid prick still dont have it right?

Your fired!!!! ;;D
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 2nd, 2005, 7:14pm
Rock. Overnight mail that fucker COD. I'll pick up the frieght on this end.

OR

Should I just swap this one for a 2.0 USB adaptor?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Jan 2nd, 2005, 8:20pm
It is ovenighted, as of tomorrow AM.

Go download drivers for an ancient 3Com EtherLink III PCI... circa 1995...

Go here bitch...
http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/searchbyproduct.jsp?path=download&search=3c590

Then click on Drivers under the 2nd one down...
this one...
3C590-TPO

Then I personally would try the one marked...
3C59XN.EXE

In exchange for this, I need you to send me pictures of you sucking my dick.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Jan 2nd, 2005, 8:26pm

on 01/02/05 at 17:12:34, Drk^Angel wrote:
Hey... No fair... My wife told me that there's no such thing as a marital sex life...


Exactly my point, there all sisters bro [smiley=laugh.gif]

Don't say it maa :-*

PFDAN back at ya ;;D

Sean................................
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 2nd, 2005, 8:27pm

Quote:
Go here bitch...



LMAO. What I go through for a little help.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jan 2nd, 2005, 8:38pm
Dear Don,

After 4 pages and tons of advice, maybe it would be worth your while to visit the local Office Depot or Best Buy and get a puter for about $300 (less the rebate).  It will most likely have everything built in that you need.  The non-english speaking tech support people will thank you!

Kris
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Jan 2nd, 2005, 8:41pm

on 01/02/05 at 20:38:30, Kris_in_SJ wrote:
Dear Don,

After 4 pages and tons of advice, maybe it would be worth your while to visit the local Office Depot or Best Buy and get a puter for about $300 (less the rebate).  It will most likely have everything built in that you need.  The non-english speaking tech support people will thank you!

Kris


Don speaks multiple languages. Computers just not one of them [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 2nd, 2005, 8:41pm

on 01/02/05 at 20:27:24, don wrote:
LMAO. What I go through for a little help.



Don, you know if was a question about a Glade plug-in and went 89 posts, I'd have stepped in and lent a hand.

I'd have overnighted you the French, German, Japanese English instruction version too.  

next time bro...  ;)  


Kevin M
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Jan 2nd, 2005, 8:41pm
'Kris' == 'No fucking fun' in FORTRAN
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 2nd, 2005, 8:42pm

Quote:
After 4 pages and tons of advice, maybe it would be worth your while to visit the local Office Depot or Best Buy and get a puter for about $300


No fuckin way. I dont give up that easy.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by purpleydog on Jan 2nd, 2005, 9:17pm

on 01/02/05 at 20:20:52, Rock_Lobster wrote:
In exchange for this, I need you to send me pictures of you sucking my dick.



Wrokk, does that qualify?   ;)
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jan 2nd, 2005, 9:20pm
I absolutely agree!

"Kris == no fucking fun in FORTRAN."  And I have absolutely no fuckling idea what FORTRAN is!

In addition, I have absolutely no desire to learn!  However, I do bow deeply to those of you who know.  I think my brain works from the other side.

Thank You!

Kris
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Jan 2nd, 2005, 9:36pm
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~hodes/Pics/old-fortran.jpg

First non-English language I learned, at the tender age of 1100.  Which is why I am now the lone mainframe-wolf in the CH geek-pack.  
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Drk^Angel on Jan 3rd, 2005, 3:06pm
What the Hell made ya wanna learn that horrid language at that age?  I was 10010 when they tried to make me learn it, and it drove me halfway crazy.  Of course... It prolly wouldn't have been so bad if the school would've had any decent compilers.  Of course, I learned BASIC when I was 1000, for all the good it did me... LOL

PFDAN............................................... Drk^Angel
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kirk on Jan 3rd, 2005, 3:18pm
FORTRAN is too messy.
Goto with COBOL. [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 3rd, 2005, 3:20pm
Fortran......Cobol.........................Now your talking my language!

What did you say DSL stands for again?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Jonny on Jan 3rd, 2005, 3:22pm

on 01/03/05 at 15:20:02, don wrote:
What did you say DSL stands for again?
 

Don Sucks Loudly

(Lance told me ;;D)
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Jan 3rd, 2005, 3:24pm
LOL Drk & Kirk!

Fortran @ 1100, Assembler & COBOL @ 1101.  I had a sweet sweet education.

Playing around in COBOL with DB2 in CICS/TS with some JAVA invokes right now Kirk.  Performance tuning for a client.  Easy peasy!

Heh heh... Don... setting himself up...
D is for Don, S is for...

Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kirk on Jan 3rd, 2005, 3:35pm

on 01/02/05 at 21:36:44, Rock_Lobster wrote:
 Which is why I am now the lone mainframe-wolf in the CH geek-pack.  


Bite my RS\6000.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Jan 3rd, 2005, 3:46pm

on 01/03/05 at 15:35:43, Kirk wrote:
Bite my RS\6000.


RS6000s rox.

Got lots of AIX clients.  Most are jumping on the P670 / P690 wagon.
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by brain_cramps on Jan 3rd, 2005, 4:22pm
Geeze --- the Master of Mis-Information is at it again.  These are a collection of some of the most retarded little steaming nuggets of SH!T that he's ever come up with.


on 12/31/04 at 20:19:31, Opus wrote:
...M$ always says to flash the Bios, that way when you waste your motherboard you will probably buy a new computer and pay the M$Windows tax. If the flash goes well, they will say you have to upgrade to the newest M$Windows, it's a win/win situation for them and you lose either way...

::)




on 12/31/04 at 21:04:03, Opus wrote:
...M$ threatened to stop support but they continued when they realized that many admins won't upgrade becouse M$ hasn't made anything better...

(Do you REALLY think that is the reason many haven't upgraded?)



on 12/31/04 at 21:20:51, Opus wrote:
...After spending a few weeks in XP I actually came close to throwing the laptop, at least in 98 I could understand what was going on, and could make it very stable...

XP-Pro is MILES ahead of 98.  You can't even compare them.  (Never used XP-Home)



on 12/31/04 at 21:20:51, Opus wrote:
...XP just seems to always fight me...

Somehow that's not hard to believe.  Maybe Bill had a couple of little "features" added in just for you, Paul.   ::)



on 12/31/04 at 21:20:51, Opus wrote:
...not reinstall drivers 3 times and poof it works for no reason...

sheeesh!



on 12/31/04 at 21:26:15, Opus wrote:
...HP says after two weeks XP needs a clean install...

My favorite!    :o



on 12/31/04 at 21:26:15, Opus wrote:
...XP has good wifi drivers, but only after you force XP to keep it's nose out of control of the device...

[smiley=laugh.gif]



on 12/31/04 at 22:13:50, Opus wrote:
..Speak for yourself wrokk, I still use M$ finest when I need some added stress LOL. Actually, I am becoming fond on win95, simple, no frills and firefox runs on it...

Do you drive an Edsel too?     [smiley=laugh.gif]



Do you dream these up or were you drinking a little early on Friday?   ::)  

If you have no idea what you are talking about, DON'T TALK!
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 3rd, 2005, 4:39pm
Would you computer geeks mind kicking the shit out of each other AFTER I have my DSL hooked up?

That way when you start speking hyrojaenesearabese I can download something else real quick.

Be honest. How many of youse guyz have pocket protectors?
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Rock_Lobster on Jan 3rd, 2005, 4:56pm

on 01/03/05 at 16:39:48, don wrote:
Be honest. How many of youse guyz have pocket protectors?


Pocket protectors?  Heh heh... so '80s.  We traded those in for 7-figure brokerage accounts, brother.  [smiley=smartass2.gif]
 
Title: ockRe: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 3rd, 2005, 5:00pm
Touche Rock!  8)
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Opus on Jan 3rd, 2005, 7:03pm

on 01/03/05 at 16:22:29, brain_cramps wrote:
Geeze --- the Master of Mis-Information is at it again.  These are a collection of some of the most retarded little steaming nuggets of SH!T that he's ever come up with.
::)
(Do you REALLY think that is the reason many haven't upgraded?)
XP-Pro is MILES ahead of 98.  You can't even compare them.  (Never used XP-Home)
Somehow that's not hard to believe.  Maybe Bill had a couple of little "features" added in just for you, Paul.   ::)
sheeesh!
My favorite!    :o
[smiley=laugh.gif]
Do you drive an Edsel too?     [smiley=laugh.gif]
Do you dream these up or were you drinking a little early on Friday?   ::)  
If you have no idea what you are talking about, DON'T TALK!



BAhahahahaha,

This day was going bad until I read all this. Thanks Grant for another good Laugh.

I sent Linux to Don today, are you going to send him XP?, whoops I forgot you would have to send him a whole new computer. I can't wait until Longhorn is released (hopefully before the end of the Decade) so I get to see what the NEW definition of Bloatware is.

Opus/Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Drk^Angel on Jan 3rd, 2005, 7:45pm
Opus... Why wait until a day after forever to find that out... Download the latest alpha, and see how bloated they've made the existing NT/XP code.  I can just imagine the fun when they actually announce a name for the new version, and claim it's all new code...

PFDAN............................ Drk^Angel
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Sean_C on Jan 3rd, 2005, 8:13pm
Almost 1100 readings ;;D

Sean.......................
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by don on Jan 3rd, 2005, 9:11pm

Quote:
Almost 1100 readings  


And I'm STILL Dialin up!
Title: Re: DSL installation question
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 3rd, 2005, 10:02pm

on 01/03/05 at 21:11:29, don wrote:
And I'm STILL Dialin up!

What did you say DSL stands for again?



Don's Still Learning    ;;D


Kevin M


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