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Title: What the F.. do men want? Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 10th, 2004, 1:14pm O.K., Marlin i need to clarify. "besides that!" say for instance the sex is great. What else am I doing wrong here? What is it you men need? I am at a standstill trying to figure out the MALE mind set. I cook, I clean, I iron, yes, all of you teeny-boppers, there's an appliance out there called an iron. I have a sense of humor...,..just ask Cluster C \huck, Leesa and Jayne. when you lust after another woman...is it for real? Do you come home at night and TELL us your fantasies? Is your work really that important to you.? What is really the most important thing to you?? I have an answer to everything...but not this. I am hurting here. :'( Linda |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Redd715 on Dec 10th, 2004, 1:23pm I wish I had an answer for you Hun...and I won't even bother to read anything Marlin writes any how. Still looking for the answer to that meself Sis. Someday it'll all make sense. Till then, maybe we just have to focus on being happy with being "us". Dispite and in spite of "them"? |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Jeepgun on Dec 10th, 2004, 1:24pm ? Jeez... I have no idea. If he's managed to capture your heart and he's still not happy, he must be brain damaged, Linda. I just don't understand it. In any case, kick him to the curb. You don't need or deserve that shit. >:( [smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Donna_D. on Dec 10th, 2004, 1:27pm Sounds like HE is the one with the problem, Sis. YOU DESERVE TO BE LOVED! UNCONDITIONALLY!! DD |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 10th, 2004, 1:27pm yeah.... That's what I seem to notice in Marlin...He has only a one-track mind. No one else would be so bold as to post to this thread . Luinda :( |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by ArCane on Dec 10th, 2004, 1:27pm on 12/10/04 at 13:24:12, Jeepgun wrote:
Couldnt have said it better myself. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Bandette74 on Dec 10th, 2004, 1:30pm on 12/10/04 at 13:23:12, Redd715 wrote:
^ | | i think this is the best answer. the best relationships i've found have been two "whole" people coming together, complimenting and sharing their self-made happiness. i've never seen it work for long when one of the people in a relationship "needed" the other to be happy. sorry you're hurting... i know heartache can be rough |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by nani on Dec 10th, 2004, 1:44pm :-/ Sorry Linda...sometimes this "love" business sucks. There is a new book out now, called He's just Not Into You. I saw the author on Oprah the other day and he said women don't have high enough standards for themselves. When I think about that it's true in a way. Women often see themselves as the "catchers" and allow men to do most of the "pitching". We let them control the relationships by "waiting " for them to be ready. I had just broken up with my 2nd husband and had pretty much sworn men off completely. I was in no way, shape, or form, looking for a relationship. I befriended this guy at work, and though I thought we might have been good together, I never wanted it to go beyond friendship. You know what happened...He pursued me...I was very resistant, which I think probably made him more intrigued. Long story short...we have been married for 17 years. He's my best friend and we couldn't be happier. I found the love in my life, I think, because I was soooo not looking for it. Set a standrard for yourself...you are sooo worth more than what you've gotten. There is a Mr Right out there. (There are also a lot more Mr Wrongs- but fuck 'em...you don't have time for them)You probably don't see him as a romantic partner, yet. He will pursue you. And he will cherish you in the way you deserve to be cherished. P.S. If marlin posts to this in his "usual" way, let's kick his ass ;;D |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Cerberus on Dec 10th, 2004, 1:56pm Linda... I hate to say this but MOST men are pretty damn shallow, you can do damn near everything for 'em and you will get used/abused. I like to think that MOST of the men here are not that way, I can only speak for myself. This is my train of thinking...I am a simple man, I don't require much. Sure I have all the wants and desires of a man in general, we all do, however what I WANT and what I NEED are two different things and I have learned to focus more on the needs than the wants. Also being a man, I tend to not communicate all too well how I am feeling at any given time, unless it is really bothering me, and even still it usually manifests as anger from frustration of one sort or another. Know this though if you are not loved I will tell you so, otherwise look more to my actions than my words to let you know that I care. Now....since I am in the minority (JMO) as a male, I hope that at least brings you some comfort somehow. Who loves ya baby?! :-* ;) Ramon |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:00pm on 12/10/04 at 13:14:03, Linda_Howell wrote:
WHOOAAAAAAAA! I can't speak for every man. And I freely admit I don't understand women - you girls are a constant set of moving goalposts. But I'll answer a few questions -- strictly applies to me though. "when you lust after another woman...is it for real?" - Nope, not me. Eye candy, that's it. I have a lot invested in my marriage. Not about to fuck it up for a strange screw. I've had a lot in my time. That's why I got married and to the one I picked. "Do you come home at night and TELL us your fantasies?" Rarely. Could land up on the other side of a scowl that might last for weeks. Not worth it. "Is your work really that important to you.?" Nope. Work is what I do to make $$$$$ and to try and arrange for a hopeful eventual retirement. That's it. Of course having a job that's rewarding financially and emotionally usually requires a certain degree of focus and effort but that shouldn't be confused with "really important". "What is really the most important thing to you??" That's the hard one and I'll bet you couldn't answer it without doubt either. Being happy at home is the answer I'll offer. Coming home to a smiling face, no bitching or grimmaces. Common goals recreation, financial, emotional... (sounds corny but makes a difference). Some degree of admiration, intimacy and SEX. Believe me, doing shit around the house counts too. Sorry to hear you hit a snag in your life. 2 need to play the relationship game. I don't think I'm in the position to give any advice. Been married 19 years and lived with her a year leading in. Aside from this relationship the others were like a practice - didn't count for shit. If he's stumbled off the field more than once you may need to look for another player for your 2 person team. That's entirely up to you. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:11pm on 12/10/04 at 14:05:10, Linda_Howell wrote:
Uh, what about moi? I offered a humble thoughful response you probably weren't expecting, the leaset you could do is kneel down and kiss my feet. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:15pm Quote:
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Racer1_NC on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:25pm on 12/10/04 at 13:14:03, Linda_Howell wrote:
With that out of the way..... Quote:
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Depends on the person, situation, and a 100 other variables. Quote:
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by john_d on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:29pm This is kinda pragmatic, but.... First you have to play the attraction game. To start, you have to be attract a man to chase you, but don't worry, men are attracted to many, many things. Personal appearance, but also neediness- as in a woman who really needs him. Second, men get more attracted the more they have to chase. Hard game to play because you have to be evasive just enough to make them chase but not enough to actually get away. I am sure you aware of the above, but I want to spell it out and make sure you realize it is seperate from below part of a relationship. Outside of the attraction game, there is what people really want and need, rather than just what a man wants. Here is the 'Maslow Heirarchy of needs' http://chiron.valdosta.edu/whuitt/col/regsys/maslow.html Interesting stuff. But besides all that, men are just imperfect human beings. They are not the answer to lifes problems and if they are expected to be they may feel inadequate and dart. Vibes to you Linda. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Donna_D. on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:30pm on 12/10/04 at 14:00:04, marlin wrote:
OK.. Who are you and what have you done with Marlin's body ;) on 12/10/04 at 14:11:31, marlin wrote:
Oh THERE you are! DD |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Racer1_NC on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:30pm on 12/10/04 at 14:29:13, john_d wrote:
Speak only for yourself. Bill |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by john_d on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:31pm on 12/10/04 at 14:23:18, Linda_Howell wrote:
Men physically lust often...very often, it's part of the make-up. The key is not acting on it, if he does not have the self-discipline and personal boundaries to not act on those feelings. He will cheat on you. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by john_d on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:33pm on 12/10/04 at 14:30:54, Racer1_NC wrote:
pretty standard wiring really, but i'll take your word for it. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:40pm on 12/10/04 at 14:30:03, Donna_D. wrote:
Hey, I still like SEX and rarely get enough of it. The one I want to have sex with happens to be my wife. Not because she's the only attractive woman on the planet, but because I still find her attractive and she puts up with all my shit which makes her even more attractive. I'm lucky most of the time. So... same marlin, only with a mildly softer side. :) |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Jeepgun on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:41pm Yeah... If someone plays hard to get, I walk. I have no patience for games. Personally, all I want is a warm bed, a kind word, and unlimited power. 8) And if I can't have all three, I'll settle for unlimited power. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by nani on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:46pm Quote:
I don't think it's about games or hard to get. It's about not being the pursuer. I think it's more of a game when men feign interest just to get sex. If a man is interested for the right reasons, he will pursue a relationship. And marlin...who knew you had a soft, marshmallow filling! ;;D |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Kevin_M on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:46pm on 12/10/04 at 13:14:03, Linda_Howell wrote:
Personally, just to like and want the person I'm with, today, tomorrow, the next day and next, and that she's happy with me. Otherwise... Quote:
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by john_d on Dec 10th, 2004, 2:51pm well Frank, it's a little more complicated than one paragraph can describe. But I think you would be suprised how at least a little bit of 'hard to get' can get you going. But the main point I wanted to get across is this, their is a real physical process behind attraction and sexuality, and that it helps to have that *seperate* in your mind from the more rewarding process of building a human bond with a mate. 2 cents. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:02pm on 12/10/04 at 14:51:28, john_d wrote:
Look john, since Frank's been married for 10+ years (I think) I figure his response cariies a little more weight. I know plenty of guys that married women they had to pursue and pursue and pursue. That pursuit required a lot of effort, gifts, promises... The problem is these women all seem to think that was going to last forever. Guys eventually get tired of continuing to pursue. Produces a princess. An unhappy one that either bitches continually or finds another sucker to pursue her. They are all on their second or third marriage and fucked up their lives IMO. Getting along, physical attraction, common goals and regular sex are keys to staying together and being reasonaby "happy". |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Biker on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:06pm I think Jeff Foxworthy summed the question up right well. "Men are thinking, "I want a beer, and I wanna see somebody naked."" That is pretty true of most males. I have been told I dont appreciate all the cooking and cleaning, laundry, house hold chores,ect. not to mention keeping track of the appointments,ect.ect.ect. and the list goes on forever. And she is right---I have never really thought about it. Theres so many things to think about--fixing this, fixing that, the "honey do list", and trying to listen--well, I have failed miserably in relationships. As far as sharing fantisyies, hell no. I like sleeping indoors too ya know. I miss having a signigicant other around, but I have learned that (another quote) its better to be alone, than wish I was alone. Nagging just makes me wanna jump on the scoot. Relationships are tough. At first, everything is swell. After awhile, things are not so swell anymore. Its hard work to keep a relationship going without getting on your partners nerves from time to time. I once saw a T.shirt that stated "It use to be Wine Women and Song, now, its beer, the ole lady, and T.V. The newness wears off. Things become hum-drum. Its hard to keep the excitement going. Ya gotta think of new things all the time to entertain the both of you and keep the relationship vibrant. Being a victim of CH doesnt help much either. Getting edgy, depressed, anticipating the next hit, the drugs we take, and the grouchyness, is not good for a relationship. I myself become right anti social during a cycle. That in itself makes for hard feelings when Im out of cycle, and things (relationships especially) go down the drain. I doubt I have helped your delemia, and I sure hope I have not made it worse. I wish you the best of luck. Its probally a good thing I live WAY out in the sticks----otherwise, I would probally jump on the scooter, ride to the bar, but a beer, and hope to see somebody neked. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by nani on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:07pm Quote:
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Kevin_M on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:07pm on 12/10/04 at 15:02:45, marlin wrote:
Then again, there are the guys in which the pursuit is the real challenge; getting what you want, then losing interest Guilty Kevin M |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:08pm on 12/10/04 at 14:46:28, nani wrote:
nan honey, you like the obnoxious player marlin better? He's been out of commission for 20 years now. The present day, slightly greying marlin still gets the occasional unsolicited interested woman pawing his leg but has the common sense to kindly walk away. Sorry to disappoint you. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by john_d on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:11pm on 12/10/04 at 15:02:45, marlin wrote:
Not going there bud, I happen to respect Frank's opinion because of his past posts so you are needlessly defending him. But I respect my opinion as well, but I do take it with a grain of salt. Why don't you go umpire a mud-wrestling contest somewhere if you want to break up a non-existent fight? Frankly, what you said and what I said are apples and oranges. I was talking about initial attraction. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by vig on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:12pm "men get more attracted the more they have to chase. Speak only for yourself. Bill " I'm with Bill and Frank on this one, as soon as I sense there some of that going on... bye bye It's dangerous and stupid. anyway what the f do we want? Harmony, affection, simplicity, synergy, understanding, tolerance, space... you know, not much. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:17pm Finally an answer: Thank you Paul.. Quote:
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Jeepgun on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:17pm LOL.... I have no patience for princesses, either. It might be "Battle Of The Sexes," and the "attraction game," but after the relationship has begun, then all of that crap goes out the window in favor of, "Us, We, Together, Team, Family." Being in love is like having a baby: Both the mother and father compromise a little, sacrifice a little, and learn how to bend a little so that the baby will survive and thrive and grow. When one or both parties decide that the compromise, effort, and sacrifice isn't worth it, then that baby begins to die. Linda, I don't know your exact situation, but like I said, you don't have to put up with that crap. Very best wishes to you. Never sell yourself short. There's nothing wrong with you, Dear. [smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by john_d on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:31pm i'm really sorry you are having rough-time Linda, I wish the best for you. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:33pm All I want is for my wife to love me and trust me. I don't expect her to understand me. I don't even understand me. I don't want her to think that I understand her. She's even more complicated than I am. Quote:
Hell no!! It's just the typical thing that happens to most men 99% of the time they are awake. Physical attraction is all it is. I think some of the girls in the picture of the day for the guys thread are awesome. I wouldn't touch them though if they walked up and sat in my lap. Someone else said it good. 'Eye Candy'. Quote:
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I think an Adam Sadler song song says it best. I wish I remembered all of the lyrics. I actually learned it before and serenaded my wife with it. It's at the end of 'The Wedding Singer'. It's called 'I Wanna Grow Old With You.'. All I want to do is grow old with the ONE woman that I fell in love with and watch my little one grow up. Later on, we retire and live in an RV in camp grounds around America untill we finally go to our permanent rest. ;;D Added after the fact: I would also like for my wife to understand that if I don't feel like it (you know what) or I'm to tired to do it, It doesn't mean that I don't love her or that I had someone else earlier today. It simply means that I don't really feel like it or I'm to tired. This does actually happen some times girls. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:34pm S orry. Thank you all for your responses. Not that I have an idea of what the F...you want in a woman... But your entries have reall y started me thinking. I need to leave this area. soon!!!!!!!! Love all you a lot. Linda |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by vig on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:39pm What the F.. do men want? one more attempt... To become one half of a two person organism... yes, I spelled it right. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by john_d on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:40pm on 12/10/04 at 15:34:53, Linda_Howell wrote:
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:43pm on 12/10/04 at 15:26:44, Linda_Howell wrote:
So, when did you start to swear? Was it recent? I doubt it so it sounds unreasonable for him to expect a different woman than the one he committed to out the gate. Probably something else. Caution - If he says he doesn't like you I'm afraid there's little hope of putting humpty dumpty together. But.... One reason I rarely take sides in a relationship dispute is there are always 2 sides. He may have a legit gripe?? Can you think of one? Are you real tough on him with unrealistic expectations? Anything you can think of? Of course as I said earlier, more than 2X off the field and, well... you need to look for scouting reports to revamp your 2 person team. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:46pm Hey, Exploding eyeball.......... This is exactly what I was hoping for when I posted this. Quote:
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Jeepgun on Dec 10th, 2004, 3:50pm [smiley=hug.gif] :'( |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Dec 10th, 2004, 4:23pm Hang in there Linda. Let's hope the agony is only a temporary thing. We go through the 'You don't love me... Yes I do, whether you like it or not!!!' phase at least once a year. I hate fighting but it happens some times and it always hurts and makes me feel like I'm the problem. There are so many other things I'd like to tell you but when I try to type it out the words just don't look right. Juist be tough and hang in there if you can. Pat |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 10th, 2004, 4:23pm Quote:
He he he he ! Yeah right! Thanks to all of you. Really. You made my day a little brighter. Linda |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Dec 10th, 2004, 4:40pm Here's how Adam Sandler said it. This is what I want. ;;D -------------------------------------------- I wanna make you smile, whenever you're sad. Carry you around when your arthritis is bad. Oh, all i wanna do, is grow old with you. I'll get your medicine when your tummy aches, Build you a fire if the furnace breaks. Oh, it could be so nice, growin' old with you. I'll miss you, kiss you, Give you my coat when you are cold, need you, feed you. I'll even let you hold the remote control. So let me do the dishes in our kitchen sink, put you to bed when you've had too much to drink. Oh I could be the man who grows old with you. I wanna grow old with you... |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Dec 10th, 2004, 5:01pm on 12/10/04 at 16:55:59, Linda_Howell wrote:
Damn. I wish I knew the answer to those questions. I know that when we start having problems, I try to step back and take a look at myself and usually see that I'm acting like a big self centered baby. On that note... Have a nice weekend. It's time for me to go home so I can go Christmas shopping with my wife. Pat |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Mac_Muz on Dec 10th, 2004, 5:17pm man is like this .... 1 Woman is more like this as i see it.. 001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100001101100 Does this help? Now at least IF I am really lucky you might have a smile?? mac |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 10th, 2004, 5:36pm hmmm. So what you're saying is that women are really complicated? O.K. Got ya. That must be my problem. I speak in tongues. Makes me fel so much better now that I understand it all. Linda |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Dec 10th, 2004, 5:39pm Read your PM's kiddo. Carol |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by cschick on Dec 10th, 2004, 5:39pm wow. I don't know what to say to all of this. I am kind of in the same boat. Taking precautionary steps right now. I need to make sure my child will grow from a good little boy to a great man and I don't think this will happen if I stay in the situation I am in now. I understand completely what you are saying. I have been watching this thread all day and I am still trying to figure out what to say - just know you are not alone in this struggle. Hugs to you! Karen |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by BobG on Dec 10th, 2004, 5:50pm I have no idea what started this string or what it is all about. So I'll just say, Hey Linda [smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Mac_Muz on Dec 10th, 2004, 6:16pm Yeah I think women are complicated.. If it was just guy's, we'ld still be livin in caves wearin grass skirts, or maybe a hide of some sort with no stitching. When it rained we would smear on grease, and thats about it. But oh noooo.. Woman comes twitching along, and thats sorta interestin' Guys watch that walk, but we pray to never get caught out right, and thats even if we are single! Now me I got lucky some how the 2nd time around and it seems I can't do anything wrong.. She don't go shoppin much and when she does it is practical stuff we really can use.. I maintain every thing we own, and much comes from the dump.. I prefer Queen Anne furnishings to what i find at walley world and in the NH dump you can get Queen Anne clones of the 1920's or so, and Hitchcock chairs and the like. Oh sure they need a new coat of milk paint and or varnish, but I can do that stuff. My 81 Yammi motor bike came from the bone yard, right off the pile of cars.. I asked her about getting it and she said "Do it!" with a smile knowing full well I would restore it to better than new... What she didn't know was i would do lots of that right in the kitchen sink, and after a few years of riding on it with her, restore the paint to what it is today in our shower... I do have 2 minor problems with her however. I like hunting and target shooting, and as of late had a few extra bucks to get a few guns, and if I let her try them out she tends to claim them. Women are known for not sharing so well, and I am not about to push the issue with a armed woman! So I have to get another gun if I want to shoot what ever type I wanted.. I find this gets expensive ... The 2nd problem is I also do Buck Skinning as a hobby life style and added to that French and Indian War battle re-enactments.. Both of these hobbies require a tomahawk, and that is a axe like camp tool.. We throw them at blocks for points in competition. So this tool needs a tight handle to use it. Well water swells wood and so I discovered that being forced to leave the "lid up" that this makes a dandy swelling tank.. Now I bet you can see where we come into conflict if I forget that hawk is soaking.. I sure hope so as i don't think this Yankee lad can explain it here... Mac |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Ree on Dec 10th, 2004, 6:30pm on 12/10/04 at 14:29:13, john_d wrote:
I agree with ya here John D... guys DO like the chase... and why do we wait around and chase them around cuz we like the chase too... Only problem is that WOMEN like to get caught... guys don't like getting chased........make sense? There is a new book out there it was on Oprah the other day... by Greg Bedrendt called He's Just Not That Into You. I think all single women should read this... and the show was great. He said alot of things I wish I had listened to in my first, marriage........ Buy the book Linda honey you deserve so much this life has to give to ya... Love ya lots and lots reehttp://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200409/tows_past_20040922.jhtml |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 10th, 2004, 6:32pm Doesn't spend money? Does she clean the fish you catch too? If the answer to that is yes and she looks like one of those pics jonny or rock posts you may want to lie a little bit about how good you've got it. Sounds too good to be true. Most men would kill to get one of those lol. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Donna_D. on Dec 10th, 2004, 6:35pm Linda, I think the question you should be asking is what do YOU want? Hang in there, Sis. Always here if you need me! BTDT, DD |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by cschick on Dec 10th, 2004, 6:45pm on 12/10/04 at 18:35:32, Donna_D. wrote:
oh, oh, BRAVO, BRAVO!!!!!! That is the best answer yet! DD you are sooo wise! [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Donna_D. on Dec 10th, 2004, 6:46pm on 12/10/04 at 18:45:21, cschick wrote:
Shhh don't blow my cover...they think I am just a "Ditz with tits!" ;) DD |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by cschick on Dec 10th, 2004, 6:51pm *whispering* oh ok, I will keep on the downlow! *shouting* DD you ding dong - what are you on? |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by thomas on Dec 10th, 2004, 7:01pm on 12/10/04 at 18:35:32, Donna_D. wrote:
I think somebody just hit the nail on the head. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Mac_Muz on Dec 10th, 2004, 7:08pm Now marlin, Why Yes she can butcher deer, and fish is easy.. She tips the scales at near 140 and is near 6 feet tall.... Since she hit 21 x 2 , well she ain't no spring chick, but I am 53 so some say I robbed the cradle. I am about 150, and near to 6 feet too... I wish I knew how with no better than a Yahoo album to show her pic here, but I can't seem to even get a avatar to load from my system.. I am not computer literate... There are some things I don't seem to do very well. I can't even get the "More Smiles" to work well. As the extra's load and I move the mouse to them they go away... Anyway she is mine and I am hers, and we both work at staying happy.. At vouse it is said madam knows how to keep her man home... I must admitt that appears true to me over the last 14 years... Mac [smiley=inlove.gif] |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 10th, 2004, 7:10pm on 12/10/04 at 19:01:51, thomas wrote:
Probably right. See, there's an expectation game that has the potential of being set to unrealistic levels by Cosmo Magazine, The View, Oprah...and many others All the arch enemy of the married man. Men: If you find one of those articles anywhere within reach, destroy it immediately or live with it AT YOUR PERIL!!! |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Charlie on Dec 10th, 2004, 7:33pm I agree: Do what's good for Linda. You're on the right track kid. Coming here was a big step in the right direction. I'm here for you too. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/happytosee.gif I know that it seems like it's true that we were given enough blood to run our brain and our penis but not both at the same time. We aren't so bad, just not good at asking for advice. Love you Linda. Charliehttp://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/flowers.gif |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Carl_D on Dec 10th, 2004, 7:39pm LINDA [smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Biker on Dec 10th, 2004, 8:39pm Life is your choice. Its all your decision. I would like you to ask your children, ask your husband, and finially ask yourself. I think you already know what you have decided. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by sailpappy on Dec 10th, 2004, 11:35pm Linda my sister, You and I go back a way and from the e-mail I got from you a few days ago, well I am dumbfounded by the fact that such a worrier like you would submit, just to get help with the meds. I would endure all the clusters God can send my way, standing tall and knowing I am with a person that LOVES me enough to sacrafice her own sleep and no matter what, stick things out Holding my hand and asking what she could do to help, Your a wonderful Friend and person and you dont deserve anything but the exact same thing in return. we all have to compromise at some points in life to make our mate comfortable. Are you there for the right reason, Love? or is it out of being scared and in need? I love you Linda and it tears me apart knowing your situation. and by the way, I am still beaming from the last line in your e-mail! If anything ever happened to Terri and I you would be one of the first people I would contact sweety! You were alone before and fighting the good fight, is bing with someone that already makes you question the relationship worth giving up what you fought so hard to acheive before you hooked up with him? now your in a position to reap some rewards from this relationship should it end, Spousal support and maybe medical insurance??? I am very worried about you my friend!!!!! very worried indeed! write me sweety!!! pappy |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Cynlee on Dec 11th, 2004, 1:32am Linda Sorry to hear you are hurting, and torn. From your posts and the posts of those who know you or know the situation it sounds like you need to re-evaluate your needs, and what you expect from him. Remember just because you want to change or figure out what he wants he probably will not be as willing to comprimise or put you before himself. The feeling I am also getting from this relationship is that it is abusive? Or might be? Sorry if I am over stepping my bounds but NEVER put your own personal safety (mentally, emotionally, physically) before anyone elses. GET OUT! A person (man or woman) who truly loves another would not intentionally inflict any pain on their partner. (physical or otherwise) I know it is scary to leave if you are questioning it now, get out before it gets much worse! It wont get better and "great sex" unfortunatly is a large part of the relationship but not the most important. There must be a mutual respect for eachothers welfare, needs, dreams, and desires. A couple should compliment eachother. I have to remind myself of these things daily so that I myself will not fall back into that pit of despair. Never settle! Best wishes in your decision, there are resources available to help with transitions souch as these. Please if you are in any danger take care of yourself! If you need someone to lean on, any of you ladies in bad situations. Feel free to PM or email me. Love and Light Cynthia |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by nancyc on Dec 11th, 2004, 2:04am SIS, dont know if i can help you at all but I can tell you this.....I really dont give a shit rite now in my life what a man needs...IT IS ALL ABOUT WHAT I NEED....LOL...all kidding aside, my last love, DOC...yep, my Doctor..that i had an affair with for two years, died about three months ago...I learned alot from this man...He taught me that NO one should control you like he tried to do with me...that you alone control your happiness...that is along with the God of your understanding..BUtt, I allowed him to do this to me...God bless him for helping me understand that I need to protect myself from mentally abusive people...He did give me so much that I can carry on in my life.....my prayer for you is that you find peace with YOURSELF...noone but you..then you can let someone else in your life...at this point in my life, I am still searching for self peace, so I am alone and that is ok rite now..I am enjoying it..I do still grieve for Doc though for he never knew true happiness...God bless, smiles,nancyc |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Racer1_NC on Dec 11th, 2004, 11:46am on 12/10/04 at 15:07:53, Kevin_M wrote:
Then yet again, there are they guys that hate the pursuit, do it anyway, and then find out the individual they were pursuing was not what they believed them to be and lose interest. Works a million different ways. The most important thing concerning this thread is that Linda resolve her situation and find the happiness she deserves. Bill |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by E-Double on Dec 11th, 2004, 5:32pm on 12/10/04 at 16:40:49, ExplodingEyeBall wrote:
the band played this @ my wedding! Sums it up for me....... I was a player for many years.... all I really wanted was someone to be with and to TRULY share all of me with and that would do the same. When I found that person there were no games what so ever. Just reality and that reality was completion... My wife completes me! That's what I want from a woman. Good luck finding that other part of you...and don't settle for less. Best, Eric |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 11th, 2004, 9:52pm OK OK...ya ya ya. But don't forget... men still can't go without a good ole' high quality high octane romp for god's sake!!!! |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by nani on Dec 12th, 2004, 1:53am Quote:
OK ladies...time to kick his ass! ;;D |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by WhoIsTedNow on Dec 12th, 2004, 2:23am Linda, if I have taught you nothing in life, cough medicine and vodka are your friends! |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Jonny on Dec 12th, 2004, 3:05am on 12/12/04 at 02:23:06, WhoIsTedNow wrote:
And what are your friends, Ted?........BURP!! |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by sailpappy on Dec 12th, 2004, 2:56pm ,;;D That comment about a high octane romp is about a selfish a statement I have ever read!, maybe its time to reaquaint yourself with mr. right hand! then you can add all the Octane you want! In the face of real true love you will do wha ever it takes to make your partner feel better,safer,securer,and that your priorities are about the two of you and not just yourself. To protect my wonderful Terri, I moved into my own bed, away from any possibility of bleeding on her while asleep, and even though I have a +10 sex drive, I turned it off, 4 years of almost no contact, not to be selfish for myself, but to generous for her. Love is placing everything for your mate ahead of your own needs to protect not only their health, but their mental security. Pappy Sweet Ms. Linda----You deserve peace of mind and Happiness, stop waiting for it to find you and state you demands, it is something you should be getting without having to ask! Love Ya! |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by survivor13 on Dec 12th, 2004, 3:20pm Don't give up Linda! their are alot of us men out there, who want the same thing you do! thats why i never re-married after 15 years of being divorced (46 now).my last girl said (why don't you just turn your head), not me, i'd rather be alone than live a lie. who knows maybe i'll meet a CLUSTER-HEAD-QUEEN! :) |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 12th, 2004, 5:18pm on 12/12/04 at 14:56:39, sailpappy wrote:
pappy, That +10 sounds a little overstated sir. I like the show of martyrdom though. Makes guys like me live a living hell, that is, if the women really believe it. My own sense of it, well, I think it's mostly in your head - the one on your shoulders. Believ whatever you like. If your parter prefers that you sleep across on the other side of the house and you're happy with that, enjoy. I'll take the high octane romp, thank you. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by BobG on Dec 12th, 2004, 5:45pm Mmmmmmm......marlin I don't think you know sailpappy's history and the reason he may not share a bed with his wife. Believe me, it has nothing to do with "preferring" that arrangemnt. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Redd715 on Dec 12th, 2004, 5:50pm on 12/12/04 at 17:45:03, BobG wrote:
Just goes to show who is thinking with the little head, and who lives by the heart Bob.... Sad really, no wonder women like me would prefer to remain single than have to put up with the likes of neanderthol man here. Marlin just club her over the head and drag her off to the cave. On second thought, club yourself in the head might knock some sense into ya. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by john_d on Dec 12th, 2004, 5:52pm Quote:
Let me get this straight- you moved out of the bedroom and did not get any sex for 4 years to protect your wife. I don't know your complete circumstances but that sux. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by survivor13 on Dec 12th, 2004, 6:01pm on 12/12/04 at 17:52:04, john_d wrote:
I GAVE IT UP FOR FOUR YEARS TOO (DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANSES) HAD A MAJOR HIT (LEVEL8 OR 9) DURING. SHE TOLD EVERYONE ABOUT ME DANCEING AROUND THE ROOM HOLDING MY HEAD. AFTER 50 MINS. OF PAIN ALL I COULD DO WAS HAVE A SMOKE AND GO TO SLEEP! :-[ |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by john_d on Dec 12th, 2004, 6:11pm [quote author=survivor13 link=board=general;num=1102702083;start=75#80 date=12/12/04 at 18:01:58] I GAVE IT UP FOR FOUR YEARS TOO (DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANSES) HAD A MAJOR HIT (LEVEL8 OR 9) DURING. SHE TOLD EVERYONE ABOUT ME DANCEING AROUND THE ROOM HOLDING MY HEAD. AFTER 50 MINS. OF PAIN ALL I COULD DO WAS HAVE A SMOKE AND GO TO SLEEP! :-[/quote] I don't understand, are you talking about your wife? Who did she tell this to? |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Charlie on Dec 12th, 2004, 7:36pm http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/drugs.png Charlie |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by survivor13 on Dec 12th, 2004, 7:38pm on 12/12/04 at 18:11:45, john_d wrote:
no, lady i spent two months gettin to know! before that big day! left the damn imitex at home! needless to say first and last time! felt like the elephant man for awhile after that! |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Sean_C on Dec 12th, 2004, 7:44pm ;;D |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 12th, 2004, 10:11pm on 12/12/04 at 17:50:06, Redd715 wrote:
red sweetheart, just curious... is it your expectation to be romantically swept off your feet onto cloud9 each time you engage in a bout of love making - ya know - like in romance novels, music, silly Cosmo articles and movies?? And are you disappointed when you discover that doesn't happen each and every time? Or do you just immediately make the connection that your prince-charming turned into a neanderthal overnight and then proptly look around for another price charming? You may find one... or then again, you may end up like my grandmother who had the same expectations. Good luck to you. I think you need some. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Redd715 on Dec 12th, 2004, 10:26pm on 12/12/04 at 22:11:30, marlin wrote:
It goes a little like this frat boy... Seduce my body I may yours for a night. Seduce my mind and heart and soul and I'll be yours forever. Try it sometime... Guys these days are just intimidated by a woman who doesn't NEED a man, what they fail to understand is that it is THEY who need women....best to get it right.... |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by nani on Dec 12th, 2004, 11:16pm Quote:
Dude...you really are thick, aren't you? You know it can be like that. It depends on the two people involved. It can even be like that after many years. It can also be the other side of the spectrum, as well. I suggest that you start a thread called What the f... do women want and then follow the advice. Your wife might give in after all. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Charlie on Dec 13th, 2004, 3:39am Yikes Charlie http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/CRINGE SMILEY.gif |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Redd715 on Dec 13th, 2004, 6:34am nani you are sooo right!! Marlin, the moral to this story is that if you treat your spouse no better than a blow up doll, thats what you'll be needing in the long run. Nani I do believe he's to thick to "get it". No wonder he doesn't "get" it. [smiley=crackup.gif] |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by karma on Dec 13th, 2004, 8:34am The question was What the F.. do men want? Men have answered. If you like the answer take it. If you don't like the answer leave it. But learn from them. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by becky8 on Dec 13th, 2004, 9:40am Not to quote Dr. Phil, but I do believe this and have been where you are at...... You need to take back your power!!!! Noone should have that much power for you, and if hes a cheater? Which I don't know, he will ALWAYS be a cheater(been married to one in the past) and he has been married now 3 different times since we were married. You are beautiful and smart so just take back your power and really LOOK at him and what do you see?I know its really hard but you will see him totally different once he can't control how you feel anymore when he does shit. People that fool around have a low self worth so they're always trying to prove something to them selfs! Good Luck, Hon Thats just what I believe anyway! |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Edna on Dec 13th, 2004, 9:59am Linda, sad to know I'm lost here way on the fourth page........but.......go check your mail honey, I got something for you there. I'm thinking of you and waiting to hear from you. OH and sailpappy......... :-*.......you're genuine!!! EDNA |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by TomM on Dec 13th, 2004, 10:01am Marlin is a cave man. He showed his true colors when Frank and I said we adore our wives. Let the putz be putz.... My not so humble opinion. >:( TomM EDIT--Linda...keep the faith. I think that all women should be adored and put on a pedestal. Am I saying that to get into some one pants, here? NO! |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 13th, 2004, 10:27am on 12/13/04 at 08:34:20, karma wrote:
so red honey, are YOU "happy" right now? Happy as measured by how you feel about today and the likely prospects that you will achieve what you want tomorrow next day next day... How many times have you been married? Do you even want to be married? What is it you want and do you really think you'll ever get it and make it last? And what the fuck makes you think I don't treat my wife like she's my favorite person on earth. The fact is I do, she knows it and that makes her happy. Everyone has different sexual body alarm clocks. Mine goes off alot more than most ;;D |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Slammy on Dec 13th, 2004, 11:14am Talk about role reversal! [smiley=laugh.gif] Our wiring is much simpler than women... while men have different tastes and desires, we are not that difficult to figure out... not much complexity :D Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 13th, 2004, 11:51am Before my next hit and while I still have whatever is l;eft of wits about me...let me apologize for starting this thread. I never expected it to get to 4 pages and I certainly did not want to start a war. Many of you here are my friends and know me and my situation and that is why I came here with my personal problems. But there are lots of newcomers who don't, so I should have just left this alone & if I wasn't here in OUTER MONGOLIA, Washington totally alone ..I would have. I appreciate with all my heart the support I have recieved from all of you. Ted? Thanks for the laugh hon. Before I married this man last May...I was a strong, independant, fairly happy person with a sense of humor and like someone here said...I have given him my power and if my head will give me a break for a while so I can think straight, I will find a way to get it back. Right now I don't even recognize me and who I've become, so it's going to be a long road. Thank you all. Now Marlin? climb back into your cave like a good boy and stop fighting with my friend Redd. ;) Linda |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by TomM on Dec 13th, 2004, 12:09pm on 12/13/04 at 11:51:43, Linda_Howell wrote:
Hey Linda---You STILL are the independant, happy, strong woman you always were. You just need to realize it....and I think you now have. Hugs, TomM |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 13th, 2004, 12:22pm on 12/13/04 at 11:51:43, Linda_Howell wrote:
NO!!! In fact I am on my way out of the cave right this minute to go to the mailbox. I am expecting my favorite mail article to arrive any day now and can't wait -- The Victoria Secret's mailer. Then I'll go back in my cave a happy cave man. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by BobG on Dec 13th, 2004, 12:56pm marlin, Quote:
That's a stupid question. Of course she does! Maybe it doesn't happen every time but it sure makes it better when both people try for it. I won't say how long I've been married but it is long enough that my oldest grandchild is 17 years old. You do the math. My wife and I still go on "dates". Movies, dinner at top-of-the-line resturants. A couple times a year we stay at a Hotel in Vegas for a weekend. We've had romance in our marriage since day one and it is still as rich and powerful as it was on our honeymoon. The attitude "Hey women, I'm in heat. Service me. Now!" is going to make you a very lonely man someday. And since your 'favorite mail article' is a catalog I think maybe your someday has arrived. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 13th, 2004, 1:08pm on 12/13/04 at 12:56:49, BobG wrote:
I can do the math. I'm guessing that I'm a whole lot better at math than you are at reading. What I hacked out on this keyboard was "EACH AND EVERY TIME". I didn't type that out by accident. Got that gramps? If EACH AND EVERY TIME is the measuring stick then I doubt red could ever be happy. I have a sister-in-law like that and my brother doesn't know if he should kill her or himself or which will come first. I guess I sound like a simple guy and perhaps I am but I also have a daughter. I hope that she finds happiness one day too when and if she decides to get married What I hope she brings to her marriage is a lot more common sense than princess attitude. That would be a start. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by firebrix on Dec 13th, 2004, 3:28pm Linda About power: "The power others possess is the power I give them. If I have endowed another with power they do not possess, Then I face my own power Do I not?" Lots of love and happier days to you. firebrix |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Redd715 on Dec 13th, 2004, 4:19pm Quote:
I don't see where there is an EACH AND EVERY here. is only MY eyes? Sorry I just don't read that at all.. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by vig on Dec 13th, 2004, 4:25pm watch it... He's a Redd-baiter.... and he's a master! |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 13th, 2004, 4:48pm on 12/13/04 at 16:19:10, Redd715 wrote:
OH MY! You got me. Well, that WAS my intention. Would have been pointless otherwise - right? My excuse -- Got a little sloppy, ya know, the Victoria's Secret Catalog's late this season and I'm kinda disturbed about it. Please forgive me. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Jonny on Dec 13th, 2004, 4:56pm Me thinks we should all try to get along before I feed someone to the lions, got it? ;) |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 13th, 2004, 5:19pm Gettin along fine jonny. In case you haven't noticed, I'm just playin hard-ta-git and Redd's a little annoyed. Hey, did you get your Victoria Secret's catalog. I think my mailman hogged all the copies on his route. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by BobG on Dec 13th, 2004, 5:55pm on 12/13/04 at 11:51:43, Linda_Howell wrote:
Linda, you have nothing to apologize for. You have done nothing wrong. Hope you're feeling better. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Leesa on Dec 13th, 2004, 9:07pm Linda, dont be sorry. You have done nuttin wrong gal. Im sorry your heart is hurting and you feel so bad. Now, you CAN and WILL get strong! If you dont like what you see in the mirror in the mornings then CHANGE it. No one eles can do this for you. Its ALL up to you hun. What YOU want in your life is MOST important. SOME men have no clue who to treat a woman. I know I was married to 2 of the biggest butts in the world! But when I stopped looking for "Mr Right" I found him. I found someone that holds my dreams close to his heart and LISTENS to my fears. He loves me for ME. Hes never tryed to change who I am or where I came from. Hes my best friend!! We talk ALOT about everything. We each have our own dreams and hobbies but we each give the other the space to be our own person. Any realationship is work. If both parties are WILLING to work at it fine, if not its time to bail. Marriage is no different. Men are not as complex as SOME woman make them out to be. Most men want the VERY same things that woman do. UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, trust, respect, and someone who is willing to give of them selves. ONLY YOU can decided what you want in your life. Take the time to find out what you want, not what someone eles wants from you or wants you to be. In order to make you happy you have to be happy with YOU first and foremost. You WILL that one person whom is the other half of your heart! It took me 34 years to find him but I did!!!! Have faith girl friend it WILL happen!!! Call when you can hun!!! Love, Leesa PS: Pappy, your Grade A!!! |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Apple on Dec 15th, 2004, 3:37pm I haven't been here for a little while and didn't see this until now. I hope things are a little better for you at this time. Please make sure you take into consideration compromise builds good relationships, but us women have a slight tendency to be overly concerned with the needs of our male partners. And if our male partners take advantage of that...well, we'll get run right over. I hope that's not your case. You deserve the best and don't you ever forget that. Feel well. Hugs, A. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Ree on Dec 15th, 2004, 3:53pm on 12/11/04 at 21:52:51, marlin wrote:
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Gator on Dec 15th, 2004, 4:20pm on 12/13/04 at 21:07:12, Leesa wrote:
All the other caveman vs sensitivity bs aside, I think Leesa pretty much summed it up. Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of men (or women for that matter) actually know what they want. They are still searching themselves and they hurt themselves and others in their trial and error method of answering those questions. I think in the end, it does come right back to what Leesa said. For me, first and foremost, my wife is my best friend in the world. We can and do talk about everything. I treat my wife the way I want to be treated. I take care of her needs and try to fulfill her fantasies and along the way in me taking care of her, she takes care of me, too. 14 years later her mother says we are still like a couple of newly weds. We must be doing something right. I hope you get it figured out. You deserve the best. Good luck. Gator |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Jonny on Dec 15th, 2004, 4:29pm Men want lesbians and lots of them, lipstick...not that butch shit!!! You asked! ;;D |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by stevegeebe on Dec 15th, 2004, 6:51pm I want a southern women with Grace. ..yea...my wife and Grace. I like to watch. Steve G |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by don on Dec 15th, 2004, 7:57pm Now that all the drama is spewed out I'll tell ya what men really want. Its simple, just a little S & S Sex and a sandmoooch. |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by thebbz on Dec 15th, 2004, 8:41pm I would say beer and boobs but I'm not 20 anymore. [smiley=laugh.gif] lusting after other women is a sin, but we are human. What is in ones heart counts. I look at other women, but I lust after my wife. Do I tell her my fantasies...no, why would I jump in the fire? She is my fantasy, and so much more. Yes my work is that important to me, until she tells me otherwise. The most important thing to me is her happiness. If she's not happy then I'm not happy. I hope the best for you and all I can say is don't fight the inevitable...If he isn't making you happy Dump the loser. Lots of fish in the ocean. ;) BB BTW: What male mindset? LOL |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by marlin on Dec 15th, 2004, 8:53pm Sex once a week is unacceptable. Once a month, well, IMPOSSIBLE!!!! If a lady-friend doesn't spend you into financial ruin, knows how to cook and cleans your fish -- that's pure gravy. ;;D |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by Charlie on Dec 16th, 2004, 12:03am Awful truth....Deaf mute ac/dc amputees with money. Charlie :o |
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Title: Re: What the F.. do men want? Post by WhoIsTedNow on Dec 16th, 2004, 12:34am on 12/12/04 at 03:05:33, Jonny wrote:
Not wannabes. BURP |
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