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(Message started by: Jeepgun on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:19am)

Title: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Jeepgun on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:19am
I was doing some work around the house last night, and had an odd experience: I got hit with what felt like the beginnings of a CH, but it wasn't heavy enough to even qualify as a shadow. It was just the familiar pressure and ache in my right eye... Just a touch, though. I'm not due for a cycle until February, as far as I can tell, so this was rather mystifying.... Fortunately, it was only one incident, remained mild, and was gone after about half an hour. This is the second one I've had in the past two months. What the hell IS this??  [smiley=nono.gif]

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by nani on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:20am
Your body telling you to start the prevents NOW? [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Jeepgun on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:30am
Well, this next cycle, I'm going to try it without any medication, if I can. I think my last cycle was prolonged and intensified by the medications.

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Redd715 on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:32am
I agree with nani to a point here Frank darlin....Maybe the beast is giving you a head start, that or it's a sign that he's gonna mix it up some on you?  Please know you are in my thoughts dear...not sure what your battle plan is this time round, but may be time to get the fortress ready?

Luv ya Bro! :-*

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by stevegeebe on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:35am
Had a bout of that last Spring.  Never went full blown.  Skipped me this year.

Hope you are as lucky Frank.

Went many years in the beginning without meds.  Cycles were never as long as when I did meds.  Who Knows?

Steve G

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:35am
Frank,

I've just recently started the cycle that I thought missed me. I'm having a lot of shadows right now and a lot of them are exactly what you just described.

They hit real fast and stay for just a couple of minutes. They don't have anywhere near the pain as a full blown CH but they feel familiar enough to know what they are.

I think it's time to get ready to rumble with the beast for a while.

Sorry to hear that it's starting early for you. Hopefully, it will also end early.

Pat

BTW: It's on the wrong side this time. Usually on the right side. Most of the hits are now on the left side. Go figure......

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Jeepgun on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:36am
Thanks, Dear. [smiley=hug.gif]

At this point, the only thing I really have to prepare is possibly an ice pack, and to gear myself up mentally/spiritually for combat.

*buckling myself in...*

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by marlin on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:50am
You know Frank, I thought the very same thing about meds dragging out the cycles. In fact I used to try to battle at least 1 or 2 CHs solo - OUCH.  For whatever reason I think my cycles ended shortly after those hard fights. It's just hard to know how the cycle might have unfolded without the meds.  So, I wouldn't start any meds until the cycle hits either.

But that wouldn't prevent me from stocking up on the trex.  Stick it in your desk at work, your car your overnight bag everywhere you can think of.  Get the O2 charged up too.  If your hits are anything like mine the willpower to fight the beast totally anarmed will give way to reason - FAST.  At least you won't be dancing and wildly swinging at doors and walls damaging your house pissing off your family members.

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by JDH on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:54am

on 12/03/04 at 10:30:17, Jeepgun wrote:
Well, this next cycle, I'm going to try it without any medication, if I can. I think my last cycle was prolonged and intensified by the medications.


It's gonna be a real bitch to do it but I believe you're right Frank.
I basically went med-free for the first 12 years or so and my cycles never lasted as long as they have since I started using Imitrex in '98. It seems like they went from weeks to months.
Nowdays I'm using the alternative therapy and I haven't been hit or used any 'trex in almost 22 months.
life has been pretty darned good without the beast.

Jim


Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by lionsound on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:07am
[smiley=hug.gif]PF vibes for my Jeepster friend

Perhaps it was a warning shot across the bow. Perhaps it was totally random.

I'm not going to lecture about meds vs. not, that's your path to choose.In either case remain balanced and do what you need to do to be prepared for yourself. Then see what each day brings.

I know you're brave enough and strong enough to do battle if you need to.

-R

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:09am
Damn dude!!!

The subject line scared me at first.

I thought you got ran into by a semi truck full of weirdos.

LOL

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by stevegeebe on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:12am
TFH?  Is that a med?

Might not go completely naked?

Good luck.

Steve G




Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by thomas on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:14am
It means it's time to "dose".

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by nani on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:14am
LOL Pat...I was thinking something like that, too.  Frank...I guess you know yourself better than anyone, but, no meds? At all? Hope you're at least going to use oxygen. I'm not brave enough to even think about no meds, no less try to do it. I'm a chicken shit when it comes to pain... :-/
I hope it all works out for you, dude. I'm sending vibes and hugs and prayers... :-*

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by echo on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:24am
I wish you the best with the no med route.  I've been off any preventative for several years.  For me the meds seemed to quit working anyway.

Hopefully you'll have some abortives on hand for the really bad battles.

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Jeepgun on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:26am
Thanks, everyone. I've pretty much weaned myself off of the headbanging. If it gets bad enough for that, I can usually just softly, rhythmically "pat" my eye/forehead with the fleshy part of my palm and it seems to diffuse the pain somewhat. I also make myself relax inwardly, and surrender, rather than fighting against it and getting all tensed up. This seems to help a lot.

Last cycle, I only used Imitrex twice, and one of those was just to see what it would do. The 'trex hangover isn't worth it, though. The next day, I was shadowing like crazy, and prior to using 'trex, I'd never experienced a shadow.

I fought these things for eight years with no medications and the cycles were intense and excrutiating, but the worst thing was not knowing what was going on, why I was having this pain, and not having any idea of what to do about it. I wasted a lot of money on sinus medications and other worthless crap.

Now that I know what I'm dealing with, the only question is what to do about the pain and how to handle it, and I think I've developed a system of relaxing, breathing, and surrendering, that seems to work well for me.

Hopefully, this is/was just an anomaly. Time will tell. I may yet decide to go back on Verapamil. I don't know.

Thanks again.

-Frank

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Redd715 on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:32am
If for no other reason than to keep the 10's away Frank, Verap may be an option.  I always say anyone touch my verap and they will pull back a bloody stub.  If I can keep the 10's at bay thats a success in my book.  (the 8's and 9's are still hell though)

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by stevegeebe on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:39am
Knowing makes a big difference.

Steve G

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by becky8 on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:41am
Sounds TOTALLY CRAZY to me, but then again I also went 20 years without meds. OD'd on sinus meds though. But I also know the pain got worst over the last 2 years and I now am chronic. Well, if you go without meds you're a better man than me, OH wait I'm not a man!!!Thats probably why!! Best of luck!

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Jeepgun on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:47am

on 12/03/04 at 11:41:39, becky8 wrote:
Sounds TOTALLY CRAZY to me, but then again I also went 20 years without meds. OD'd on sinus meds though. But I also know the pain got worst over the last 2 years and I now am chronic. Well, if you go without meds you're a better man than me, OH wait I'm not a man!!!Thats probably why!! Best of luck!



LMAO! I may break down and go see my doctor, or try the alternate therapy, but first I just want to see how this plays out. Thanks again, everyone.

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Redd715 on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:52am
You know I'm just concerned for you my dear... :-*, just as everyone else is...

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by IHateSequelsNotH on Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:58am
I like this plan though b/c it shows where your mind is and that you are prepared. I would get all the needed from anykindmeds, abortives ect. B/c I don't really see you breaking  of loss of discipline so you might as well be armed.
I did this my last cycle but backwards. Started on many drugs and all it did was add to the problems and not stop the headaches. It seems like there really is something to just standing up to them. And you have the military training and discipline of mind, a nice advantage. Have you tried dragging your head to a weight machine and pumping serious weight? I swear this broke my last cycle but like anythingwith chs. could be fluke, nothing ot only worked for me and once.
As for the shadows, I would suit up and arm myself then do your best to forget it dude. Not worry about it other than whats needed, planning in the event of and making sure u are ready. After that I wouldn't even think about the fuckers b/c I find that only adds to the hell.
either way, good luck man
Andrew

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Jeepgun on Dec 3rd, 2004, 12:07pm
Thanks. I've never tried lifting weights or running in the middle of a CH, but that might be something to try. I also have an inversion table and I tried that one time. BIG BIG MISTAKE!!  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Thanks again.

-Frank

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by stevegeebe on Dec 3rd, 2004, 12:14pm
You need to take the bolts out Frank.

Steve G

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by john_d on Dec 3rd, 2004, 12:30pm

on 12/03/04 at 12:07:43, Jeepgun wrote:
I also have an inversion table and I tried that one time. BIG BIG MISTAKE!!  [smiley=laugh.gif]


lol, yep that sounds like a bad idea  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Jeepgun on Dec 3rd, 2004, 12:44pm
LOL, Steve!

-Frankenstein

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by stevek on Dec 3rd, 2004, 12:51pm
Before imitrex my cycle was always 6 weeks in the winter.  Now I can have cycles several months long.  I also get the random mild type pressure in that special spot behind my right eye.  The random pressure hits happen any time of the year for me, but do not necessarily mean a cycle is coming on.  They do not hurt but do scare me.


Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Jeepgun on Dec 3rd, 2004, 12:53pm
That's what this was like, Steve. I don't know that it would even rate a number on the Kip scale, but it had all the signs and symptoms that we've all grown familiar with.  >:(

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by BobG on Dec 3rd, 2004, 8:55pm
Sounds like a shadow to me. There's no rule about the Kip being in whole numbers. Could have been a Kip .3


on 12/03/04 at 12:07:43, Jeepgun wrote:
I also have an inversion table and I tried that one time. BIG BIG MISTAKE!!

That sounds like a tag line.
"Never place your head lower than your butt"

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by BlueMeanie on Dec 3rd, 2004, 10:08pm
Hey Jeep,

I understand wanting to go without meds. I stopped prevents years ago. It does seam to make the cycle last longer. I would suggest having at least a little Trex (or abort of your choice) around though.

Last cycle I tried going without Trex like the old days. WRONG. The first KIP 9 about killed me without my Trex. I'll never do that again.

Hope it was just a shadow and no cycle for you. PFDAN  

Title: Re: Weird semi-hit?
Post by Jeepgun on Dec 6th, 2004, 12:03pm
Thanks. I dearly hope that I won't have a cycle, but I'm not going to hold my breath... If/when it does happen, I'll see how long I can ride it out and how bad it gets.

The worst CH I've ever had, came on the heels of taking Depakote for three days and being pain-free. On the fourth night, I got hit so bad, I thought I was literally going to go insane from the pain. It was honestly the worst pain I've ever felt in my entire life, and it lasted for approx. 40 minutes. When it was over, I was a wrung-out mess...  :(



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