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(Message started by: chrisconey69 on Nov 30^th, 2004, 11:21am)

Title: Botox
Post by chrisconey69 on Nov 30^th, 2004, 11:21am

Hey Guys, I have not been here in about 8 months after recieving I.V. intervention and botox injections in Houston,but mine started again 2 nights ago,I have been a chronic sufferer for 12 years till this treatment,thankfully i go back tomorrow to start over, I was just curious if anyone else has tried and had any success with this procedure. Chris

Title: Re: Botox
Post by nani on Nov 30^th, 2004, 11:33am

Hi Chris- I haven't tried Botox, but my sister did. It didn't work for her. :( Good luck...

Title: Re: Botox
Post by sandie99 on Nov 30^th, 2004, 1:13pm

Hi Chris,

I haven't had botox myself, it's not used as CH cure here in Finland - yet.

But my neuro told me that many patients have found it a useful cure.

Hope it helps you, though! :)

Best wishes & PFdays,
sandie99

Title: Re: Botox
Post by pubgirl on Nov 30^th, 2004, 1:32pm

on 11/30/04 at 13:13:37, sandie99 wrote:

Hi Chris,

I haven't had botox myself, it's not used as CH cure here in Finland - yet.

But my neuro told me that many patients have found it a useful cure.

Hope it helps you, though! :)

but meanwhile, I wish anyone luck

Best wishes & PFdays,
sandie99

If Botox is a cure for CH, then I'm the Pope's personal "handmaiden" again!

Great for freezing wrinkles, but no-one has any idea what injecting a poison into your system will do in the long term (we haven't even had one part of a generation yet using it) and it has shown no real benefit to Ch'ers whatsoever so I have no idea what the neuro's in Finland are basing this "cure" theory on.

It MIGHT help some migrainers. There is also some ongoing research into an ingested version of botox that MAY at some point come to fruition for Ch'ers.

Meanwhile IMHO, a waste of money for CH

Wendy

Title: Re: Botox
Post by nani on Nov 30^th, 2004, 2:28pm

Methinks someone's knickers are in a twist again ;;D...can we agree that so far there is no cure?

Title: Re: Botox
Post by don on Nov 30^th, 2004, 3:10pm

Botox.

Inefective for CH but you'll look great while being attacked.

Title: Re: Botox
Post by floridian on Nov 30^th, 2004, 3:38pm

Botox injection inquiry widens as four S. Floridians cling to life
http://www.floridian.notlong.com

Straight out of an episode of Nip/Tuck.

Title: Re: Botox
Post by Tom K on Nov 30^th, 2004, 3:40pm

www.headachedrugs.com
They are using it, it is 40% effective. For those it works for, they have remission for 4-6 months. I went through trigger point injections and was ready to do the botox but my cycle stopped dead after 2 trigger points.

T

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Cluster Headache Pathophysiology:
In order to explain the pathogenesis of cluster headache, one must take into account three crucial features of this disorder. These include the trigeminal distribution of the pain, ipsilateral autonomic features, and the tendency for the attacks to cluster with striking circadian and circannual consistency.12 As in migraine, the ophthalmic branch of the trigeminal nerve relays the pain signal, leading to release of SP and CGRP. Vasodilation of dural blood vessels and neurogenic inflammation occurs. There exists a connection between the trigeminal nucleus and the superior salivatory nucleus, where first-order parasympathetic neurons originate. These fibers travel with the seventh cranial nerve and synapse in the pterygopalatine ganglion. The postganglionic efferents innvervate the secretory glands of the nasal mucosa and the lacrimal glands. This explains the ipsilateral autonomic symptoms with cluster.13,14 The carotid sympathetic plexus is also involved, leading to Horner’s syndrome during attacks. The rhythmicity of the attacks appears to be related to hypothalmic activation or dysfunction

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A limited number of studies have been performed regarding botulinum toxin in patients with cluster headache. One study with 2 patients yielded excellent results, where both patients had no further clusters after 1 week of treatment. The effects lasted 10-12 weeks.34 The results of a recent study35 on botulinum toxin for cluster headache (by Robbins) are as follows:
Ten chronic cluster headache patients received botulinum toxin for refractory clusters.

The injections were done with low dose botulinum toxin; either 24 units of BTA per patient, or the equivalent BTB (1200 units). These were patients who had been refractory to the usual preventive and abortive medications for cluster headache. Side effects were minimal in this study. For the 7 chronic cluster patients, the injections were moderately effective in 3/7, and extremely effective for one. The botulinum toxin was not effective for 3 of the chronic cluster sufferers. Of the 3 episodic cluster sufferers, 1 obtained complete relief and 1 had moderate relief. The 3rd achieved complete relief with the first set of injections, but only moderate improvement after a further set of injections one year later. One other cluster study found that 2 of 4 patients improved, with doses ranging widely from 24 to 150 U.36 Therefore, while the results in cluster patients have not been very encouraging, certain patients do benefit from the injections.

Title: Re: Botox
Post by Jonny on Nov 30^th, 2004, 4:19pm

Becareful!!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/30/health/main658305.shtml

Title: Re: Botox
Post by don on Nov 30^th, 2004, 4:33pm

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Botox.

Inefective for CH but you'll look great while being attacked

I 'm sticking by it. Waste of time. Good for meeeegrainers.

Title: Re: Botox
Post by LeLimey on Nov 30^th, 2004, 6:49pm

on 11/30/04 at 15:10:08, don wrote:

Botox.

Inefective for CH but you'll look great while being attacked.

Don you nut! You always make me laugh! [smiley=laugh.gif]