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(Message started by: Carl_D on Nov 23rd, 2004, 8:00pm)
Title: Promise not to whine
Post by Carl_D on Nov 23rd, 2004, 8:00pm
But things are fucked up lately.
Bad fucked up.

The last 2 nights have entailed 4 attacks each, and today couldn't leave the house to make my runs and get the things done I needed to due to my lower half of my body being in extreme pain.

Also just found out one of my buddies was beat to death in Alton Saturday night after leaving work and being assaulted by two teens who beat him to death for a pack of cigarrettes. A PACK OF FUCKING CIG'S FOR A LIFE!
Words cannot describe what I feel right now so, if I'm not posting, it is because I don't want to keep posting on all of the bad shit over and over. I know, it gets old hearing it. It gets even older living it.

God save us all,
Carl D
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by Donna_D. on Nov 23rd, 2004, 8:14pm
Carl,

Sounds like you could use a hug right about now...

Hope things get better for you real quick like...

Hang in there.


DD
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by Charlie on Nov 23rd, 2004, 8:19pm
Tell you what Carl:

If anyone needs an outlet for a rant or two it's you.

Sorry about your friend. Horrible story.

Fire away though.

Charlie
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by cschick on Nov 23rd, 2004, 8:27pm
Carl - whine and bitch away - that is what we are here for.  So sorry to hear about your friend.  Makes me wonder what our world is coming to.  I saddened me beyond belief to read such a tragedy.  Hugs to you!

Karen
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by Carl_D on Nov 23rd, 2004, 10:09pm
Just found this..

Overwhelmed both with sadness and anger, and still thinking this is a bad fucking dream and I will wake up  with a CH soon enough.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=70526
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by BlueMeanie on Nov 23rd, 2004, 10:14pm
Damn.... that's some sad news Carl. Hang in there bro. Things gotta look up for ya soon. PFDAN
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by nani on Nov 23rd, 2004, 10:28pm
[[{Carl]]}


[smiley=hug.gif]
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by cootie on Nov 23rd, 2004, 11:14pm
Sorry Carl that is aweful about your friend. I HOPE they keep that punk in jail and throw the book at him and not let him out cuz he's a punk under age young deal. He did it on purpose....him and his buddy should PAY ! Sorry yer havein a bad time......whine away.....I know I do (sorry folks).....gotta do what ya gotta do Pam
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by Ree on Nov 24th, 2004, 12:03am
Sorry bout your friend Carl...  better days ahead... when your head clears up... (((((<CARL D>)))) Love ya Ree
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by echo on Nov 24th, 2004, 12:05am
Sorry to read about this Carl.  Other than that I'm at a loss for words.
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by Ronny on Nov 24th, 2004, 12:31am
I'm sorry to hear this Carl, it aint right, on both accounts.

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Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by Testy1 on Nov 24th, 2004, 3:10am
Carl
I'm new here but so sqaddened to hear about your friend. I hope they lock those two up for 25 - life or therabouts.

All the best

Jack
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by IHateSequelsNotH on Nov 24th, 2004, 4:32am
Yes as long as we get revenge on these bastards and let the hate pour out all should be well.  25 years! Hang 'em up Jeb. The problem with this mentallity is that it creates these situations. North Americans can really have trouble with the most basic elements of life. White man disease.  Cannot even question what the reason was this crime happened beyond it was for the cigarettes. It certainly wasn't for cigs or "kicks" any logical person can tell you that.  We like to hang 'em up and never hear the full story or try to come to some understanding. Society,media generation that can not sit back and pull back the emotions to really think. This is not good for society and solves nothing.  It does make sense however to stop these horrific events by finding out why. And what purpose does prison serve when they are clearly quite ill themselves. Hospital, help. It's like the mothers who get so outraged when they see a woman take their own kids lives. It's rarely questioned how can a woman do that? How much pain must she be in menatally to kill her own kids? A mother should be able to understand this better than anyone. But the masses use only emotion and very little mind. It's called mob mentallity for a reason. Beyond two lawyers playing a mental chess game the mind is not really looked at in any way. Both sides one straight agenda.  The problem is someone needlessly died again and it causes people pain, agree, not good. But it's not the end of the tragedy and we are to blind to look at it's dawn. Violence doesn't solve violence and thinking about two kids in the kind of violent atmosphere of a prison! Seems a bit sick, but nevermind opinions. It's tragedy and half of it isn't even being seen.
peace
Andrew
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by Gator on Nov 24th, 2004, 1:25pm
Carl, I'm sorry to hear of your continued problems and of your friend.  It was truly senseless and sad.  I hope the evil spawn that perpetrated this find themselves at the end of a needle.


on 11/24/04 at 04:32:18, IHateSequelsNotH wrote:
Yes as long as we get revenge on these bastards and let the hate pour out all should be well.  25 years! Hang 'em up Jeb. The problem with this mentallity is that it creates these situations. North Americans can really have trouble with the most basic elements of life. White man disease.  Cannot even question what the reason was this crime happened beyond it was for the cigarettes. It certainly wasn't for cigs or "kicks" any logical person can tell you that.  We like to hang 'em up and never hear the full story or try to come to some understanding. Society,media generation that can not sit back and pull back the emotions to really think. This is not good for society and solves nothing.  It does make sense however to stop these horrific events by finding out why. And what purpose does prison serve when they are clearly quite ill themselves. Hospital, help. It's like the mothers who get so outraged when they see a woman take their own kids lives. It's rarely questioned how can a woman do that? How much pain must she be in menatally to kill her own kids? A mother should be able to understand this better than anyone. But the masses use only emotion and very little mind. It's called mob mentallity for a reason. Beyond two lawyers playing a mental chess game the mind is not really looked at in any way. Both sides one straight agenda.  The problem is someone needlessly died again and it causes people pain, agree, not good. But it's not the end of the tragedy and we are to blind to look at it's dawn. Violence doesn't solve violence and thinking about two kids in the kind of violent atmosphere of a prison! Seems a bit sick, but nevermind opinions. It's tragedy and half of it isn't even being seen.
peace
Andrew


As for you, Andrew, you seriously need a reality check.  As a culture, we make excuses for everything.  An otherwise healthy person picks up a bottle and drinks himself into oblivion and we call him sick with alcoholism.  A person picks up a pack of cigarettes, reads the warning that it may kill them then gets to sue the manufacturer when they get cancer. Some dumb-ass buys a cup of coffee and spills it on themselves and they get to sue because the coffee was hot.  Someone injures or kills another person and s/he is let off because the poor soul was abused as a child.  There is no personal responibility anymore.  There is always a "reason" or excuse for a person's bad behavior.  Everyone is a victim of their environment or upbringing.  This weak-willed pandering to "underlying causes" is part of what is causing things to get out of hand.  Parents are afraid to discipline for fear of being charged with child abuse.   Courts send kids the message that it's okay to act out because they fail to impose any meaningful punishment for first and repeat offenders.  People turn their heads because they don't want to get involved or they are afraid the punks will come back and hurt them because some judge let the kid off.
 
Instead of more sensitivity, we need to bring back personal responsibility and consequences for behavior.  I'm tired of all this political correctness and excusing those who choose not to conform to our society's expectations.  There is nothing in a teenagers life that would give him or her a good reason to kick the life from a person they didn't even know, except maybe extreme mental illness.

Gator
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by Carl_D on Nov 24th, 2004, 2:45pm

on 11/24/04 at 13:25:29, Gator wrote:
 There is nothing in a teenagers life that would give him or her a good reason to kick the life from a person they didn't even know, except maybe extreme mental illness.


Or maybe the fact they have been so doped up on meth for so long their reasoning of consequence is gone and they just don't give a fuck about anything except fufilling their own needs. We live in a society where a 15 year old kid will beat you over the head with something if he thinks he can trade your watch for a rock or something. Think I'm kidding? Then you're still living in a Walton's state of mentality. Sadly, in time it will only get worse. Or do we need another Columbine to teach us that?

Grrrr,
Carl D
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by Gator on Nov 24th, 2004, 4:32pm
True Carl.  Either way, it's nothing society should excuse.  
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by LeLimey on Nov 24th, 2004, 4:54pm
Carl  [smiley=hug.gif] What can I say that will help with that?
Thinking of you
Helen
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by alleyoop on Nov 24th, 2004, 9:11pm

on 11/24/04 at 16:32:21, Gator wrote:
True Carl.  Either way, it's nothing society should excuse.  

"I'd like to spit Beechnut in that dude's eye...
Shoot him with my ole 45.
And a country boy will survive!"

.................alley >:(
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by thebbz on Nov 24th, 2004, 9:33pm
Carl,
Sad for ya man. Hope they catchum and hold them responsible for their actions. They made their choice they should pay. All the best  ;) BB
Andrew,
Sometimes it is better for one to keep their opinions to themselves. I would love to see you walk through Oakland at 1:00am and see what happens to your opinions. You should have ,if you had good intentions, supported the man who posted this instead of going on with your personal tirade. good luck with the tude dude. I hate it for ya. :(
BB
BTW: Somebody give don this guy's address.
Title: Re: Promise not to whine
Post by ShariRae on Nov 25th, 2004, 2:45pm
Carl,
I am so sorry about the death of your friend....I too can only hope they go to trial as adults & get the maximum sentence the bastards deserve...
Andrew....
What color is the sky in your freekin world? Get a clue..this is the reality of the world we live in..like it or not...they made the decision to do what they did..and now should pay the price for those actions..
Loving Huggs to you Carl
Shari


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