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Title: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ruth on Nov 18th, 2004, 9:20am I was going to say it sucks, but that would be really bad. Ruth |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Jeepgun on Nov 18th, 2004, 9:21am Are cigars allowed? :-X |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ruth on Nov 18th, 2004, 9:23am Probably only big fat ones! |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Melissa on Nov 18th, 2004, 9:27am Honestly I think they should have waited until he was dead before building such a thing. :-/ |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by BobG on Nov 18th, 2004, 9:32am Is Bill going to share it with Hillary after she leaves the White House in 2016. Or will she get her own? |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Nov 18th, 2004, 10:36am Free knee pads given away at the door. 'I feel your breasts...er, I mean pain' That was my disgusting comment for the day. |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Jimmy_B on Nov 18th, 2004, 10:44am I thought all (recent anyway) ex-Presidents had a Library for their artifacts and documents during their tenure as President ? I haven't been there yet, as it hasn't opened. So I can't comment. Oh, I get it. It sucked ;;D ::) |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ruth on Nov 18th, 2004, 10:54am Don't take me wrong, I love the Library it is a wonderful place, I just think all that money would have been better spent on medical research. Maybe something on a smaller scale would have made more sense. However, not too many things make sense, when you really think about it. Ruth |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Kirk on Nov 18th, 2004, 11:10am I've always felt that money that was spent on presidential libraries is somehow wasted. |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by BarbaraD on Nov 18th, 2004, 11:33am I think they should put that damn blue dress of Monica's in it. I still can't believe her mother saved the dress instead of spaking her butt for being a very *friendly* person. Every other president has a library so Cousin Bill should have his also. My opinion. Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Jeepgun on Nov 18th, 2004, 11:35am So... Who's paying for this library? Who's voting for Hilary in 2008? [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Tom K on Nov 18th, 2004, 11:59am Heard the pix make it look like a double wide on stilts...kinda fitting for the 1st PWT Pres. T |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Nov 18th, 2004, 12:24pm on 11/18/04 at 11:35:28, Jeepgun wrote:
The day Hilary gets elected in the USA is the day I pack my bags for Australia. |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by jminmilwaukee on Nov 18th, 2004, 12:25pm I think it looks nicely balanced, kinda like the nations buget and debt back then. ;;D Oh yeah, don't even try to give me that trickle down BS and tell me its raining. Peace - jmin |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by BobG on Nov 18th, 2004, 12:34pm Aren't those places built with donated money? In the gift shop you can bid on a blue dress. They have a special brand of cigars. And for the right "donation" you can buy a Presidential pardon. |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by PittsburghJoe on Nov 18th, 2004, 1:42pm I wonder if there are any copies of "My Pet Goat" on the shelves... [smiley=laugh.gif] Joe |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Jonny on Nov 18th, 2004, 3:15pm Does it have a glory hole? |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Redneck on Nov 18th, 2004, 7:29pm If the Blue flag with the white tampon is flying, run, Hillary is there! (stolen from radio talk morning show) plagarism the highest form of flattery! |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Charlie on Nov 18th, 2004, 10:54pm Quote:
You're killin' me Jonny :D Donated money builds these things. It's the best thing that's happened to the economy of Little Rock in years. Charlie |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by pubgirl on Nov 19th, 2004, 2:25am Excuse me, but I don't get it, this "cult of Clinton". Can someone explain it to a foreigner? W |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by don on Nov 19th, 2004, 7:31am Throw some rusted out Chevys and some empty beer cans out front and call it home. |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by floridian on Nov 19th, 2004, 9:41am on 11/19/04 at 02:25:21, pubgirl wrote:
Every US president builds a library after they leave office. I have been to the Truman Library in western Missouri - it was an interesting look into that period of history. Presidents who are sympatico or charismatic are considered Great (Clinton, Reagan, JFK). Presidents that are more introverted (Carter, Ford, Nixon, Bush 41) are not. Television is a big factor. The US abolished the monarchy, but not the psychological tendencies that give rise to cults of personalities. We don't have a Princess Di, but we do have Oprah. Clinton can emotionally connect to a large group of Americans, allowing him to end welfare as we know it, trim the size of the federal government and balance the budget, and still be admired. If an introvert had done that, he would have been vilified as mean and uncaring. Large groups of Americans love that Bubba because they believe that he understands and loves them. |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by don on Nov 19th, 2004, 9:44am The alternative was an Adult Bookstore. |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by nani on Nov 19th, 2004, 9:52am Quote:
All ex presidents get a library, built with donated money. Personal issues aside (and they were personal, not political) he was a decent president. His charisma was apparently so great that a (male) comedian once said- "When I met him, he was so charming, so warm and fuzzy, hell- I wanted to blow him!" |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ruth on Nov 19th, 2004, 10:25am Thank you Nani and Floridian for helping me to understand. Somtimes I am just so ignorant. |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by pubgirl on Nov 19th, 2004, 10:29am Thanks, I think I understand. Mind you, I didn't "get" the Diana cult either, and I think the Royal family are an anachronism this country doesn't need, but as they are mostly powerless and harmless, they can stay if they carry on generating tourist revenue ;;D Your presidents on the other hand are FAR from powerless and harmless. In some cases brainless maybe..... Wendy |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ruth on Nov 19th, 2004, 10:34am Guess I am not much of a cult person either, and I will try to look beyond the bad to see the good in everyone. [smiley=twocents.gif] |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Kevin_M on Nov 19th, 2004, 10:56am Well, I'm sure it's a nice place to hold a big book in front of you, imagining the female librarians dressed differently. seventh grade next year! Kevin M |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by pubgirl on Nov 19th, 2004, 11:09am Funny thing is, Clinton was pretty well liked over here too. Mainly (I think) because he used to be photographed in our pubs drinking warm real ale. That always goes down well with us Wendy |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ruth on Nov 19th, 2004, 11:21am [smiley=wave.gif] |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by nani on Nov 19th, 2004, 4:44pm Quote:
My opinion on that is that the people of England were just so darn happy to get some good looking genes into the royal family. I could have nightmares about what the kids would have looked like if Charles had married Camilla. [smiley=eek.gif] |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ree on Nov 19th, 2004, 5:31pm "LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST OUT THE FIRST STONE" SORRY I LIKE THE GUY... None of you guys have EVER looked at another woman behind your wives backs...and tell me if that said woman offered you some "oral gratification" you would of course refuse right... ... WOW talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!! if you flame me over this one your name better have Saint in front of it... Ree |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by nani on Nov 19th, 2004, 6:47pm I liked him too, Ree. But frankly, on a personal level only, I would not have fallen for his smarmy (is that a word?) and smooth ways. I voted for him, would've been his friend, but definitley would not have blown him. ;;D |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Charlie on Nov 19th, 2004, 7:03pm I wouldn't call it a cult but Clinton is a guy that can speak off the cuff and make you listen. So could Reagan and JFK. Too bad Ike wasn't a good speaker...anyway, everybody on either side said Clinton was fun to talk to. These are men who knew how to use the camera and laugh at themselves. They didn't need scripts. Diana was just so different. Fergie is more fun for me. Charlie |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ruth on Nov 19th, 2004, 7:21pm I will try to say this without offending those who like President Clinton. It would have been nice if Bill would have had enough respect for himself, his wife and his country to have held his temptations in check. I found the whole notion of having his personal life spread all over the TV and Newspapers embarrassing, not just for me as a person but for the United States as a country. It was like WTF. I am not a saint and I respect everyones opions just wanted to let that off my chest. Ruth |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Charlie on Nov 19th, 2004, 8:17pm Nobody died and the country went right on ticking. Would that all other mistakes, coverups, goofs, etc. had such a benign effect. It was fun watching the TV preachers turn eight shades of purple too. 8) Charlie |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by pubgirl on Nov 19th, 2004, 8:34pm from what I've read, some of the TV preachers over there aren't so saintly either so they could hardly criticise! what was that gargoyle and her garden gnome husband's name, Baker?? Wendy |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Charlie on Nov 19th, 2004, 10:29pm LOL... Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker. She still pops up on Larry King interviews sporting her spatulas full of makeup. Jim Bakker got a job on the "Christian" network where they tell us that God needs money all the time and that they will be happy to see that he gets our contributions. Right. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/boot.gif Charlie |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by pubgirl on Nov 19th, 2004, 10:37pm Sadly Charlie that's the kind of news which makes it over here. We either get serious newsworthy events or ones which make Americans look bad, weird or worse. Had the most bizarre programme recently all about an American convention where everyone lived their lives as an animal. There were loads of them, lizardmen, tigers, rabbits etc. The weirdest was a catman who had had plastic surgery many, many times to look like a cat. He had a split top lip, special permanent holes for his whiskers, several total facial remodels. He even had an animatronic tail and said that he was planning surgery to have a real one! God knows how he got a plastic surgeon to do it all. Sorry, I'm rambling on but it was the strangest thing I've ever seen, and it gives the impression that America is full of total wackos. Wendy |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Charlie on Nov 20th, 2004, 4:40am Never heard of that one Wendy....surely not Animal Farm ::) I know Europeans get some godawful impressions. Svenn says the same. It's our own fault with the crap we run on TV. The Jesus types make lots of noise but are a distinct minority. You'd never know it though. I know no one that I grew up with that goes to church regularly or much at all. It sounds silly but it's true. It's all about abortion and gay marriage. No matter that the world is as dangerous as ever and that someday the rest of the world that holds a lot of our fragile "paper," may decide to call it in. The dollar isn't bulletproof.............not to worry though so long as that gay couple doesn't move next door and recruit your children to the fold. Maybe we can grow up some day. Charlie http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/red mad.gif |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by pubgirl on Nov 20th, 2004, 5:08am It surprises me that the USA has more of an issue with abortion than we do as we are notoriously conservative here, can only assume that it is because despite having a "Church of England" we are a pretty irreligious society, generally speaking. It is very, very easy to get an abortion here, to the point where we have had "abortion tourists" (horrible phrase) for many years, and have even had people mooring hospital ships just offshore in our waters so that abortions can be done legally aboard. Gay marriage hasn't really become too much of an issue yet. Might be wrong though as some sections of the Church who are still living in a previous century in their minds are still fighting women and gay vicars! W |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Charlie on Nov 20th, 2004, 11:49pm The religious types have been taken for a ride. They need to stop and take a look. Nothing such as gay marriage ban, abortion, school prayer, ten commandments stuff, have come to pass with the elections of these politicians. It works to get them elected though. Sadly, it's the homosexuals that made such a big deal over gay marriage that probably won the election for George Bush. I have no problem with it but it's not high on my list of things worry about. All they did was give these evangelicals and Pat Robertson followers a way to defeat candidates that they almost certainly voted for. Real dumb. Silly fearmongers are what we want here. :-/ Charlie |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by nani on Nov 21st, 2004, 11:17am Quote:
It goes on and on. I don't think it's an American thing- its a worldwide decline of civilization. :-/ |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ruth on Nov 21st, 2004, 12:26pm And Morals :( |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Testy1 on Nov 21st, 2004, 1:36pm I always felt more sorry for Monica's dad than anyone else. It would be really tough having your daughter publicly known for being the BJ queen of the White House. Of course, if the old boy worked in MY office he'd probably have come to work some fine morning and found a box of cigars on his desk. Jack |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Jeepgun on Nov 21st, 2004, 5:06pm When I lived in Japan, the only news that made it on the Japanese newscasts were the things that made America look like a bunch of gun-toting, trigger happy rednecks. After a few years of this, I began to feel fearful of America too. Human beings are some strange and funny creatures, and one thing is for certain, no one has a monopoly on whackos. LOL I've even heard of this one weird segment of the population that has these odd headaches... 8) |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Melissa on Nov 21st, 2004, 6:21pm Ya know, I am very sure there are just as crazy nuts in the UK as there are here in America. And to echo nani, same goes for every single country out there. Whatever you see about other countries all depends on what the media broadcasts and we ALL know how unbiased the media is...;) |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Jeepgun on Nov 21st, 2004, 6:50pm I saw it on television. It MUST be true! |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ruth on Nov 21st, 2004, 7:04pm [smiley=crackup.gif] |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by pubgirl on Nov 21st, 2004, 7:37pm on 11/21/04 at 18:21:23, Melissa wrote:
Melissa and Nani I'm sure there are as many nuts too (proportionally of course) if you read my posts I never said there were more nuts there than here, so there is no necessity to defend your country, it's just that what gets imported on the TV is a very skewed picture of a nation and its people. If all you read was tabloids, and all you saw was TV you'd have a very odd idea of what an American is like. Wendy |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by nani on Nov 21st, 2004, 8:25pm Quote:
I didn't feel like I had to defend my country, Wendy. My purpose was to point out that this is not a geographic issue, it is a human issue. The fact that these tabloids sell, these TV shows are watched, makes a sad statement about people everywhere. What scares me is how many people believe it all... |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by pubgirl on Nov 21st, 2004, 8:33pm nani the same people probably all think that over here we all wear tweed, shout "Tally Ho" all the time and go riding about the country murdering foxes ;;D W |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Melissa on Nov 21st, 2004, 9:02pm on 11/21/04 at 20:25:35, nani wrote:
Exactly!! It really is sad, isn't it? |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Charlie on Nov 21st, 2004, 9:09pm The Brits couldn't stand the Puritans so they shoved them over here. We're still stuck with the remnants. God save us. Charlie |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Ruth on Nov 21st, 2004, 9:18pm Amen to that brothers and sisters. |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by BobG on Nov 23rd, 2004, 1:53pm on 11/21/04 at 20:33:14, pubgirl wrote:
You mean you don't? I think the downward spiral of morals started with that Benny Hill guy. ;;D |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Tom K on Nov 23rd, 2004, 2:18pm on 11/21/04 at 20:33:14, pubgirl wrote:
CRAP! That was the whole reason for wanting to go over there. I really wanted to do a fox hunt! Seriously. T |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by pubgirl on Nov 23rd, 2004, 6:32pm Bob It was you Americans who kept that weirdy perv in business long after he wasn't acceptable over here any more ;;D Wendy Tom You'd better get over here quickly, we're banning it soon! |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Bob P on Nov 23rd, 2004, 6:38pm There's a room dedicated just to Monica, the human humidore!!! |
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Title: Re: What do you think of Clinton's Library? Post by Charlie on Nov 23rd, 2004, 8:38pm Yeah. It's Jonny's glory hole. Oh. and take heart kids; you can see Benny Hill all the time on BBC America.....can't get rid of him. They run The Avengers, The Persuaders and The Saint a couple times a week too. They just finished with The Prisoner for awhile. Mrs. Peel was so cool. Charlie |
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