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(Message started by: ArCane on Nov 10th, 2004, 1:12pm)
Title: Migraine commercial
Post by ArCane on Nov 10th, 2004, 1:12pm
The commercial was an ad for some sort of migraine medication.  It said that migraine suffers get 1 to 2 headaches a month and they called this a "disturbance to one's life."  Give me a fucking break.  Any of us would kill, and I mean literally kill, for 1 to 2 headaches a month.  It makes me mad because these people have it easy (comparatively speaking) and they seem to be the ones with all the new drugs and commercials.  I know there are alot more migraine suffers out there than clusterheads but I would think that the pain we go through out ways everything.  As far as the health system is concerned, money is the goal, not the health and happiness of the individual.  Thanks for listening to my rant  ;;D.
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by LeLimey on Nov 10th, 2004, 1:23pm
Couldn't agree more with you!  [smiley=thumb.gif]
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by BobG on Nov 10th, 2004, 1:39pm

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As far as the health system is concerned, money is the goal, not the health and happiness of the individual.


Of course it is. Welcome to capitalist America.

Why is there a shortage of flu vaccines..............

very little profit.
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by vig on Nov 10th, 2004, 1:57pm
capitalism and medicine don't work very well together.
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Charlie on Nov 10th, 2004, 2:29pm

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As far as the health system is concerned, money is the goal, not the health and happiness of the individual.


Capitalist drug companies anyway. You'd think that they would all get together and work on some more vaccine.

What am I saying? No money in that. Boner pills advertised on the evening news, no cheaper CH drugs nor flu shots. Yes, I know it was made in England but funny there isn't a shortage north of the border.............

We have a great system. Had some tests the other day, and the first thing said to me when I walked in the office: "May we see your insurance card?" Too bad if I were too sick to reply. It's badly fucked up. I'm moving in with Svenn and Bente.   :o

Charlie
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by vig on Nov 10th, 2004, 2:58pm
They were being made in England...
By an AMERICAN company...
Chiron of Emeryville, California
http://www.chiron.com/products/index.html
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Pegase on Nov 10th, 2004, 3:12pm
2 days, one night and and flu vaccine in Montreal for 220 $... It's a new kind of tourism that had started this week here... They'are invading us... They came by bus fron N-Y and leave with a smile ;;D

Phil
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by sandie99 on Nov 10th, 2004, 3:15pm
I get migraines, too, but they are pretty much walk in the park in comparison with CH. Too bad my mum still thinks that they are the same thing. Oh well...


PFdays,
sandie99
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Ree on Nov 10th, 2004, 3:30pm
DO YOU PEOPLE FORGET THAT I AM OUT HERE??? YES YOUR FRIEND THE ONE THAT SUPPORTS YOU... THE MIGRAINE SUFFERER... NOT ALL MIGRAINE are 2 a month. I am a chronic sufferer... there are months that I get MIGRAINE  3 weeks out of the month and I have a weeks break.  So before you pretend you know what its about... talk to me.  Also  try having pain that dibilitates you for 9 hours at a time because if I dont take the abortives at the right time nothing aborts it.  With Migraine YOU HAVE to lie down I know you guys pace and that you cannot lie down... Well try living with a condition that will get better if you lie down and a job that doesnt let you lie down... Try having pain in your head for 9-10 hours and watching 5 toddlers... I never ever compare pain... I realize that your pain is worse... and according to you Migraine is a walk in the park... I am walking "no where" when my Migraines flare.......I am on a preventative, suplements and the same abortives as you... Remember if they didnt make Migraine meds you guys would be up the creek without a paddle..........Why are you so hostile towards Migraine sufferers? Its like someone saying their cancer isnt as serious as another persons. My husband suffers with CH and he at least has remission from pain... I dont..........sometimes I think you guys forget about me and I have never forgotten ANY of you... ree
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by pubgirl on Nov 10th, 2004, 3:35pm
and the latest evidence from the CH experts suggests that migraine and Ch are more closely related than Ch sufferers would like think.
It looks very possible that our next potentially useful abortive will come from migraine research yet again


Love from Wendy who also gets migraines
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Tom K on Nov 10th, 2004, 3:44pm
[smiley=bigcry.gif]  Give me a freakin' break.  Migraine drugs, boner drugs (as Charlie would put it) and other drugs fund the research into drugs for us.  Get over it.  If GSK didn't get the money from somewhere, why would they make a drug for 1% of the population?  I've said it before and I'll say it again...would your company make a product for 1% of the population?  And when it is expensive, would you be suprised when they bitch about the costs?  Face it, we got lucky with Trex...it might not have worked at all.  Be thankfull that you have that much, and quit bitching about the price.  If it's too expensive, don't buy it and suffer.  I'm sick and tired of everyone bitching to hear the sound of their own voice.  I've paid full price for trex in the past and will do it again, if I have to.  I'd rather pay then suffer.  I would pay $200 per single shot if I had to.  If you wouldn't, then you aren't in that much pain.


T
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Pegase on Nov 10th, 2004, 3:48pm
I agree Ree... Migraine is migraine and CH is something else we should not compare... I think we only feel a bit of frustration cause we dont have the same exposure... Also... we love to say that our pain is stronger... I think it's helping some of us with our self confidence... ;)

Hugs to you :)

Phil
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by floridian on Nov 10th, 2004, 4:00pm

on 11/10/04 at 15:44:27, Tom K wrote:
[smiley=bigcry.gif]   Migraine drugs, boner drugs (as Charlie would put it) and other drugs fund the research into drugs for us.  Get over it.  If GSK didn't get the money from somewhere, why would they make a drug for 1% of the population?  
T


Actually, the taxpayer funds a good deal of the research, and companies like GSK pocket the profits.

 

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.  I've paid full price for trex in the past and will do it again, if I have to.  I'd rather pay then suffer.  I would pay $200 per single shot if I had to.  If you wouldn't, then you aren't in that much pain.


Sure, there are people that will drain their bank accounts and then mug little old ladies to get trex. The pain is that bad.  That doesn't mean that price is irrelevant, or that high prices are good.  Economists on both sides of the political aisle agree that we have multiple market failures in our health system.   Competition - good (lower prices, more choice) Monopolies & Oligopolies - bad.  As a group, the drug companies are an oligopoly, and they have monopolies on a number of treatments.
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Charlie on Nov 10th, 2004, 4:49pm

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Give me a freakin' break.  Migraine drugs, boner drugs (as Charlie would put it) and other drugs fund the research into drugs for us.  Get over it.  If GSK didn't get the money from somewhere, why would they make a drug for 1% of the population?  I've said it before and I'll say it again...would your company make a product for 1% of the population?
 Utter bullshit. Somewhere, a bunch of drug company CEOs sit around a table and note that unbelievably, there still are some people dumb enough to buy our R&D scam. Right on the CH Message Board. By the way, how is that new golf course you're building in your back yard cominig along Fred?

From a recent soon to be published book: "Yes, prescription drugs are expensive, but that shows how valuable they are. Besides, our research and development costs are enormous, and we need to cover them somehow. As 'research-based' companies, we turn out a steady stream of innovative medicines that lengthen life, enhance its quality, and avert more expensive medical care. You are the beneficiaries of this ongoing achievement of the American free enterprise system, so be grateful, quit whining, and pay up." More prosaically, what the industry is saying is that you get what you pay for.  
"But while the rhetoric is stirring, it has very little to do with reality. First, research and development (R&D) is a relatively small part of the budgets of the big drug companies—dwarfed by their vast expenditures on marketing and administration, and smaller even than profits. In fact, year after year, for over two decades, this industry has been far and away the most profitable in the United States. (In 2003, for the first time, the industry lost its first-place position, coming in third, behind "mining, crude oil production," and "commercial banks.") The prices drug companies charge have little relationship to the costs of making the drugs and could be cut dramatically without coming anywhere close to threatening R&D."

This, and that of the top ten drug companies, half are European and sell their products there for a fraction of what they get here....why? Because they can get away with it here.  Most of this "R&D" is used to slightly vary the formula of drugs running out of patent so they can tell us of new drugs that aren't so new.

The bottom line is the thing.  Go ahead, shoot yourself in the foot again and again and again.

Charlie
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by BobG on Nov 10th, 2004, 5:05pm

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Most of this "R&D" is used to slightly vary the formula of drugs running out of patent so they can tell us of new drugs that aren't so new.  


Most of the time they don't even change the formula. They just change the package and call it new.
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by vig on Nov 10th, 2004, 5:15pm

on 11/10/04 at 17:05:51, BobG wrote:
Most of the time they don't even change the formula. They just change the package and call it new.

Like Excedrin Migraine,
oooooooh, they added Caffeine!  oooooooh
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Tom K on Nov 10th, 2004, 6:09pm
So, you are really bashing the company for making a profit.  Is that it?  OOOO, can't have a company make a profit.  The drug companies can only make drugs for the people with CH.  Right?  Isn't that what you are driving at?  Fuck any other ailments, no matter how big or small they are.  So what, Viagra is a big seller.  If you couldn't get it up and wanted to, you would buy it, too.  Maybe that is the underlying problem.  Why don't you ask your doctor about Viagra.  Maybe it would change your outlook on a lot of things ;;D  Who the hell cares if they sell it for more here?  I don't.  If you could sell your product at twice the cost of production in another country, you would do it in a heart beat.  It's called capitalism.  What, do you want to go pay for your trex with a couple of chickens?  The world doesn't work that way.  The company I work for is out to make a profit, yours is too.  Get over it.  If companies don't make profits, then they go under.  


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Utter bullshit. Somewhere, a bunch of drug company CEOs sit around a table and note that unbelievably, there still are some people dumb enough to buy our R&D scam. Right on the CH Message Board. By the way, how is that new golf course you're building in your back yard cominig along Fred?

What's sad is that you actually believe this.  Are you in the Illuminati runs the world crowd, too?  Black helicopters and tin foil hats?  Major League Baseball is scanning your minds with satellites.  They set up the BoSox win because they needed ratings...more ratings, more mind control.  Planes flying overhead leave mind control drugs in the contrails....sheeshhh

T

PS...I may be an not a very nice person but I still love ya, Charlie!
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Pegase on Nov 10th, 2004, 6:17pm
It's always fun to read your harsh comments T... You surely love trash radio... I still love you though ;)

Phil
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by ArCane on Nov 10th, 2004, 6:41pm
Didn't mean to start a fight, lol.
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by eyes_afire on Nov 10th, 2004, 6:44pm

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I would pay $200 per single shot if I had to.  If you wouldn't, then you aren't in that much pain.


Ouch.  Some people can't pay that much.  Maybe I don't have CH afterall.   ::)

--- PillPopper
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Magick on Nov 10th, 2004, 7:48pm
Ree I could not agree with you more. How can we clusterheads expect any compassion when we have none for anyone other then ourselves? I’m new to this condition. But one thing I made up my mind about after coming here for the first time and reading posts and talking in the chatroom was that I would NOT endorse this attitude of. “My pain is worse then yours” attitude. Pain is pain!

SOME of us are willing to do anything needed to help the cluster community in getting the word out there and helping our fellow clusterheads get the information and support needed WITHOUT slamming other people’s medical conditions. If you are NOT one of those people we don’t need you.
>:(
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Nov 10th, 2004, 8:01pm
I hear ya Ree - and God bless you for being a supporter and a sufferer as well.  It's a tough job to walk in both worlds.

Hugs - Carol
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Kevin_M on Nov 10th, 2004, 9:05pm

on 11/10/04 at 15:35:40, pubgirl wrote:
It looks very possible that our next potentially useful abortive will come from migraine research yet again


I've heard that the more extensive research and money applied toward migraines may have unintentionally helped by genetic findings from Milan, as one example.  


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DO YOU PEOPLE FORGET THAT I AM OUT HERE???
      ree

UNFORGETTABLE REE???   No way queen of turtles!


Per the commercial though, the reaction from a cluster board regarding one or two migraines a month getting tv attention, research adequate to formulate drugs for, and getting the public distinction as " a disturbance to life", can be a frustrating message to swallow as a clusterhead.  The range of "disturbance to life" from migraines can be more extensive than the ad's example gave.  An ad about clusters would simply have the viewing public going, "what are they talking about?"  The commercial is reaching to those who may suffer once or twice a month,or more extensively perhaps, gaining awareness for it's remedy and additional demand.


Kevin M
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Charlie on Nov 10th, 2004, 9:25pm

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So, you are really bashing the company for making a profit. Is that it? OOOO, can't have a company make a profit. The drug companies can only make drugs for the people with CH. Right? Isn't that what you are driving at?

Not in the least. I would never ask them to do that. It's ridiculous. It applies to too many illnesses.

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Who the hell cares if they sell it for more here?  I don't.
I do so long as they they are in bed with every legislator and HMO they can find to make profits trump service in ways that are incomprehensible. It's obscene at the moment. Profits are fine so long as they bear some semblance to reality.  

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If you could sell your product at twice the cost of production in another country, you would do it in a heart beat.  It's called capitalism.  What, do you want to go pay for your trex with a couple of chickens?  The world doesn't work that way.  The company I work for is out to make a profit, yours is too.  Get over it.  If companies don't make profits, then they go under.    
Unfortunatley, drugs are not most products or imports. Bad ones can be deadly or be priced out of  reach for those who need them to survive but can't afford them. An iota of compassion wouldn't kill them. Yeah. I'm a capitalist too but when drugs were unregulated nearly 100 years ago, a lot of drug company "cures" were variations of spiced alcohol and narcotics. Drug companies made tons of money while changing labels. Not everything government does is bad.

This isn't one of those countless conspiracy theories. God, I love 'em. There's too much scholarship and evidence on this issue from serious people who know what they're doing.

MOC  8)
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by thebbz on Nov 10th, 2004, 10:25pm
Get migraines with CH. I wouldn't blame a company for making profits, but Billions? All the while taking subsidies for R&D from the feds. In the meantime other R&d being blocked because a substance is considered illegal? Makes alot of sense. Think I'll scream now. ::)
Plenty of money for boner ads though. Migraines hurt too. :o
BB
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by vig on Nov 10th, 2004, 10:32pm
If Ree hurts from a migraine, then so do I.
:'(
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by nancyc on Nov 10th, 2004, 11:06pm
I can relate to the pain of migraines after this year...never had to deal with them before this time ...My heart goes out to you Ree and everyone else that suffers with them...I hate chs and migraines...I wish I could get a head transplant....smiles,nancyc
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Tom K on Nov 10th, 2004, 11:23pm
[smiley=wave.gif]  Man, I love to stir the shit pot!


T
Out spoken to a T
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by cootie on Nov 10th, 2004, 11:34pm
Yup.....pain IS pain.....and it all hurts "US" ! A friend in need is a friend in deed Pam
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Melissa on Nov 11th, 2004, 9:07am
Ya know, my mom had severe migraines, and I remember when she'd get them, I could not disturb her AT ALL.  Even if I'd say "hi mom" to her, she'd open her eyes to a slit with her brow furrowed and hiss at me that she had a migraine.  I lost a LOT of time with my mom because of them and watched her in pain a lot.  She'd try and sleep throughout the day sometimes, only getting up for ice packs, a temple and neck rub from my dad and to use the ladies room.  She also smoked 3 packs a day and found it hard to even do THAT.  I don't know how the hell she held down a job, but she did, even though she'd suffer through the pain throughout whole work days.  

I hate head pain, no matter what type it is. >:(  
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by BlueMeanie on Nov 11th, 2004, 1:40pm

on 11/10/04 at 16:00:25, floridian wrote:
Actually, the taxpayer funds a good deal of the research, and companies like GSK pocket the profits.

 

Sure, there are people that will drain their bank accounts and then mug little old ladies to get trex. The pain is that bad.  That doesn't mean that price is irrelevant, or that high prices are good.  Economists on both sides of the political aisle agree that we have multiple market failures in our health system.   Competition - good (lower prices, more choice) Monopolies & Oligopolies - bad.  As a group, the drug companies are an oligopoly, and they have monopolies on a number of treatments.


If taxpayers and government assist in R&D than there should also be a clause to lower profits. The assistance they receive is to help sick people. It's NOT like a regular product that people can just boycot & stop buying. I feel they have no right to take advantage of a product that people MUST have to survive.

If you want to pay 100x profit for sports shoes that's fine. If you don't buy them there's no pain.

I too have paid full price more times than I can count. I think it's total bullshit.

ps. Migraines suck too.
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Ree on Nov 11th, 2004, 7:45pm
Sooooooooooooooo... I was on my way to the nice Veterans night they planned for my town... and the dinner I have been looking so forward to this week.  The "Munger Boys" so proudly displayed on the screen with pictures of Scott in his helicopter and Sean donning his desert camo last year in Mosul... the back of my eye started to twinge and I said.......... oh oh Im on the verge... I'm just returning after sitting through 2 hours of Veterans talks etc... the town turning out for our brave guys... thanks to the firedept here.  Ive had this Migraine now for going on 3 hours............. I'll probably see you in about 3 days.......... as I type my teeth face and eye are blasting with pain... I know its not a CH... but it ruined my night just the same and if I dont break this it will ruin my weekend.................ree
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Pegase on Nov 11th, 2004, 8:23pm
Ree...

[smiley=hug.gif]
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by john_d on Nov 11th, 2004, 8:29pm
That just sux  :(, hopinh you are pain free soon Ree  :)  

John
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Lizzie2 on Nov 12th, 2004, 11:21am
I'd have to agree with Ree on this one.  Yeah some people get migraines once or twice a month.  But then if you check out some of the migraine sites (not that I would recommend this in any way unless you are feeling suicidal and want to be pushed over the edge of insanity), you will see that it isn't that way for a lot of people and that migraine has truly killed the quality of life for many people.  It is a neurological disease, and nobody has the right to compare one pain to another because you aren't inside that person's head.

For those of you that forget <g>, on January 17, 2001 at 9:00am, I got a migraine on the top right side of my head, which I STILL have.  I have had a migraine going on 4 years now.  I have spent weeks of my life in the hospital trying to break it.  I have gone on medication holidays to see if the meds were making it worse.  I rarely ever take any form of pain medication unless I am on the verge of losing it.  I have tried well over 50 different meds to try to treat it, but it turns out that my particular type of chronic migraine tends to be treatment resistant.

What causes me to miss entire days of school the most?  Migraine.  Yes...the CH tortures me to no end. I have many sleepless nights, and that pain (to ME) is more extreme than the migraine pain, but the CH will end...  And even though it may come back 6 more times that night, it still ENDS.  My chronic migraine has not given me even 5 pain free seconds since I got it almost 4 years ago now.  Basically the damn thing has ruled my life despite how hard I have fought against it.

Last Saturday, I got my navel pierced (I know it sounds unrelated but it is..trust me).  Yeah it hurt, but no biggie.  My mom hates it...she said she doesn't care that I have it, but she doesn't want to look at it.  I told her that lots of girls my age have it done.  And she said the following very profound statement:  "And as I was talking about it with dad, we agreed that you have missed out on so many of the things that girls your age get to do, so if this is one thing you can do despite your illnesses, then I'm glad."

It sounds so stupid, but my life entirely changed almost 4 years ago when I got the chronic migraine.  I lost most of my friends in person (eh...not worth it if they dumped me because of that), and I still fight on a daily basis to hide my pain with other NURSING students because they don't accept me because I have headaches and sometimes talk about them.  Rediculous.  I have provisions in my school file saying that if I miss a day of clinical, I do not have to pay the $250 fine, and that I am allowed to miss more than the allotted 2 days without getting booted out of the program.  Well...I have not even missed ONE day.  I've gone to clinical after throwing up all morning.  I've gone and been practically useless because I can't even think with the throbbing headaches.

One of the reasons I am choosing to work in neonatal is because of the conditions.  They are very good for someone with my multiple health problems, and I am determined to keep on working and not go on disability.  I refuse to give up...that's how I've always been.  I absolutely love neonatal, and one of my professors said that sometimes yes you have to pick your area based on what is good for your health, too.

So that's what I've done.  I have changed my entire life in major part due to the chronic migraine, although I have had to make further changes since the onset of the CH in November of 2003.  I gave up on going to med school, but I'm perfectly happy with nursing.

No regrets...ever.

So yeah, before you flip off the handle over a migraine commercial or say that migraines are nothing compared to CH....think a little.  You're right...to me, my CH's go above and beyond the pain of my chronic migraine.  However, my chronic migraine has changed my life much moreso than I ever would have wanted.  It just never ends.  I hope to goodness that someday it does!!

OK I'm off my soapbox now.  I'm sure that someone will want to rip this apart for being so pro-migraine. ;) ;)  But oh well...this is just the story of my life.  Migraine and CH...they are both true hell but in different ways.

I do, however, think they need to change the imitrex commercial to state that it is used not just for migraine, but also for CH...by using the words "vascular headaches" or something along those lines.  That I will agree with!!!

OK...rant over. ;)

Hugz to all,
Lizzie :)
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Jeepgun on Nov 12th, 2004, 11:37am
Ree....  :'( [smiley=hug.gif]
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Kevin_M on Nov 12th, 2004, 11:45am

on 11/12/04 at 11:21:05, Lizzie2 wrote:
I'd have to agree with Ree on this one.

I knew and was waiting for a couple  :-*  of words from you were forthcoming Lizzie.  Nice post.


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you have missed out on so many of the things that girls your age get to do, so if this is one thing you can do...

Glad to see life is picking up. ;;D


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I absolutely love neonatal,...

and picking up.


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No regrets...ever.

luvya Lizzie


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OK I'm off my soapbox now.
  [smiley=sleep.gif]             ;;D      good stuff Lizzie


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I do, however, think...

Don't worry, the soapbox has your initials carved in it.   ;;D


Kevin M
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by lionsound on Nov 12th, 2004, 12:23pm
Lizzie, may I borrow the soap box for a minute? :)Thank you.
I’m right there with you Lizzie and Ree.

I get migraines and clusters. And you know what? Sometimes there’s no point comparing the pain or dissecting symptoms because then I’ll just get more depressed.

The fact of the matter is that not a single day went by in October when my head wasn’t hurting with one headache or another and yet every day I got up and tried to function and take care of my boys. The days that I lose are the worst. Spent in bed or spent rocking at the computer screen with ice on my head talking to my ch buddies(well, that’s the only ok part). I miss my husband and I miss my children and I’m tired of my time being stolen from me with out warning and with out my permission. And in addition I have PTSD which when it rears it’s ugly head would scare the sh*t out of most of you let lone the HA’s.

I know that being here on this site has allowed me to walk in many a sufferer’s shoes and be compassionate and understanding about lots of things in addition to CH. I also know that I saw that compassion in all of you because I have been on the receiving end of it many times.

(Oh ,I agree that migraine commercial is awful because I would give most anything for only two days of pain.)


Soap box is free again now :)
-lionsound
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by ArCane on Nov 12th, 2004, 12:54pm
Im sorry if I offended anyone with my post.  It wasnt supposed to be a migraine bashing post.  I was only angry at the fact that migraine suffers get all the attention and us clusterheads seem to be left in the shadows.  I feel for anyone that goes through any amount of pain.  Please forgive me.
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Lizzie2 on Nov 12th, 2004, 12:57pm

on 11/12/04 at 12:54:03, ArCane wrote:
Im sorry if I offended anyone with my post.  It wasnt supposed to be a migraine bashing post.  I was only angry at the fact that migraine suffers get all the attention and us clusterheads seem to be left in the shadows.  I feel for anyone that goes through any amount of pain.  Please forgive me.


hey...no offense taken.  believe me I get pissy as a host of another headache board when people just whine and whine about how bad their migraines are and how they have to go on disability and how they've given up on life.  Now, I know migraines are bad, but COME ON..you have to at least TRY.  Maybe I'm just the exception er sumthin...so yeah, I understand!

No worries!   ;;D

Lizzie :)
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by Jeepgun on Nov 12th, 2004, 12:58pm
Who loves ya', baby?  [smiley=hug.gif] Nothing to forgive. I think most of us share your frustration, ArCane.
Title: Re: Migraine commercial
Post by lionsound on Nov 12th, 2004, 2:16pm

on 11/12/04 at 12:54:03, ArCane wrote:
 I feel for anyone that goes through any amount of pain.  Please forgive me.


Of course you do![smiley=hug.gif]
All is good. No need to apologize for your opinion. It's a completely valid one.:)
Like you I just get frustrated, I guess.

-lionsound


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