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Title: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jonny on Nov 5th, 2004, 5:36pm Ok, you all know I dont share my pain (you bunch are a pain in my ass as it is) and probably never will, but, I thought I would throw this out there cause it has never happened to me in the 30 years Ive been battling. I crashed last night and was up with an 8 in 90 mins flat, I crawled (Sciatica) up the stairs to my office and started huffing the 02. With the mask in one hand and an ice pack in the other, I had my eye on the Zomig NS sitting in front of me.....WTF?.....in 5 mins the fuckin thing was completely gone, vamoose, sianara :o ....just with 02! Three hours later here we go again, only this time it was a ragging 10....flew up the stairs like I never heard the word sciatica. Fuck the 02...gimme that Zomig....while leaning over to grab my ice pack out of the fridge I was pushing the plunger on the Zomig, half of it went in and half went in my eye (It was closed)....before I could wipe it out of my eye the CH was completely gone. As soon as the spray went in the CH drained away within seconds. I dont post much about my head because you all have your own head to worry about......I just thought this was weird enough shit to post seeing that CH has never been that easy to kill....could be that all the boots ive broken off in his ass are telling him that enough is enough.....LMMFAO ;;D .........................jonny |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by don on Nov 5th, 2004, 5:52pm Are you still defining as episodic? Quick kill might be a good sign for you. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by BobG on Nov 5th, 2004, 5:53pm Don't know how or why it was killed so quick but just glad it was. :D |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by john_d on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:01pm quick death to CH weirdness = good weirdness ;;D |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:06pm Quote:
Don said this. Doesn't Don live near you? I'd say this was reason enough to kill wouldn't you? Don it was nice to know ya bro. lmao, Linda |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Kevin_M on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:07pm You're right jonny, when they get going like that it's like trying to stop a locomotive. See what continues to happen. Fast escalation and fast shut down. Don't know. I've woken up with it going good and coming on fast before, but it was the full bitch, going too much to back it down quickly. Glad they disappeared so fast. Kevin M |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jonny on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:15pm Thanks folks Don, what does it matter chronic/episodic in this case? If you really need to know and dont have the balls to call and ask....its 29 1/2 years chronic and then about five months PF (with shadows) and right back to chronic. Your welcome to come for dinner Sunday....im laying a new concrete slab in the back yard and need some filler ;) |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by BobG on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:17pm on 11/05/04 at 18:15:03, Jonny wrote:
Watch out don. Last guy he invited to dinner was Jimmy Hoffa. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by don on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:18pm Quote:
Might matter a lot. If your whole situation is changing then your treatment options might change with it. What may not have touched a CH when you were chronic might be effective for you now. You may have more amunition now than you've had in the past. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:20pm Quote:
Uh, I take back what I just said. . I want no part of this. Don? Don who? L |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Bob P on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:21pm Maybe the eye is a faster route of delivery than the snorter is. Zomig eye drops? |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by don on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:29pm Quote:
I can handle a little concrete. The important question is "Whats for dinner"? |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jonny on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:30pm on 11/05/04 at 18:21:01, Bob P wrote:
Hmmmmm! |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Kevin_M on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:45pm on 11/05/04 at 18:21:01, Bob P wrote:
I can't remember ::) but I believe acid(lsd) could be dropped that way... a long time ago. Kevin M |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jonny on Nov 5th, 2004, 6:49pm It was 2:30 am and my eye was closed but when I realised it was shooting everywhere I did open my eye and got some in there......Im not saying thats what it was......Im just saying that the NS never worked that fast...."Seconds" |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by athos on Nov 5th, 2004, 7:23pm Maybe the beast thought you were toooooo much of a pain the ass to mess around... ;) |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Kevin_M on Nov 5th, 2004, 7:29pm on 11/05/04 at 18:49:15, Jonny wrote:
No, I agree. Impossible that enough could get in the eye to do any good. I think absorbsion through the eye is faster though. Safety though is a different thing. Still a mystery bro... ??? I know for as long as you've been hit, to have something so unusual happen is a surprise. It could have happened once to me, but I certainly would never have remembered, probably just went back to sleep and forgot. See how it goes, twice in a row is... unusual. Kevin M |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Ree on Nov 5th, 2004, 8:05pm you havent said hmmmmmmmmmmmm in a long time... hmmmmmmmmmmmm ree |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jonny on Nov 5th, 2004, 8:19pm on 11/05/04 at 19:29:58, Kevin_M wrote:
DUH!! on 11/05/04 at 19:29:58, Kevin_M wrote:
You could wake up with a 10 and not remember it? on 11/05/04 at 19:29:58, Kevin_M wrote:
Thats probably the reason I posted this! ....................................jonny |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by alleyoop on Nov 5th, 2004, 8:25pm on 11/05/04 at 18:45:13, Kevin_M wrote:
Hey Jonny, if your tats start doing battle, don't try to break them up! [smiley=laugh.gif] .....................alley ;;D |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Svenn on Nov 5th, 2004, 8:36pm on 11/05/04 at 17:36:37, Jonny wrote:
Seems i missunderstood you buddie.Thought you was the weird part Jonny ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D Svenn |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Kevin_M on Nov 5th, 2004, 8:44pm on 11/05/04 at 20:19:59, Jonny wrote:
Sorry jonny, meant that there have been times I've woken up during the night a couple times everynight and come morning not remember getting up. If one of them went away quickly, I may have probably fell asleep and didn't remember it, unusual as it would have been. I have had one or two quickly subside for no reason while awake, but only up to a 6. Just saying it might have happened to me. I agree it's unusual and I'd be the last to have an answer. Kevin M I should know better than to think I could speak coherently. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Pegase on Nov 5th, 2004, 8:52pm Maybe adrenaline did the job... [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Sean_C on Nov 5th, 2004, 9:00pm Thats kinda freaky and cool at the same time Jonny. I wonder if your on to something there. Just curious if your gonna attempt an eyebort again? What a break through that would be if it worked twice. Dude I would give my left nut if one of my wake up 10's disappeared in seconds. Let me know how you make out. By the way, what do I have to do, join the bath house to get an invite you ass. ;;D PFDAN to you Sean............................. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by mynm156 on Nov 5th, 2004, 9:04pm Ah Jonny boy you can bitch and complain all you want we really dont care.. hahahahaha Just kidding. QUICK KILLS?! Good For you man! I hope that it continues for as long as you keep dancing with the Beast. Good Vibes Baby! MYNM156 |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by john_d on Nov 5th, 2004, 9:05pm on 11/05/04 at 21:00:14, Sean_C wrote:
I think you just invented an awesome new word, can we put that in the cluster headache dictionary? ;;D |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Margi on Nov 5th, 2004, 9:08pm maybe Don's onto something here, Jonny. Maybe you're morphing into an episodic. Attacks can end suddenly like that for Mike near the end of a cycle, too. Happened once, just by brushing his teeth - *poof* gone. I hope this is happening for you and you've got PF times ahead again. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Nov 5th, 2004, 10:15pm Margi - from your mouth to God's ear! Carol |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by cschick on Nov 5th, 2004, 10:31pm Don't really have any advice or anything here but have to I am glad to hear that you were able to abort with the o2. I am keeping my fingers and toes and legs and arms and everything else crossed for you that you are able to continue aborting so quickly! ;;D PFDAN to you! p.s. maybe the beast is taking the hint that you are the KING! long live the iron boot! |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Gator on Nov 5th, 2004, 10:58pm Quote:
I wonder if this isn't too far from it. You were already in great pain with the ch plus the pain of the sciatica crawling/running up the stairs. Maybe the pain rapidly depleted your Substance P levels and that combined with the exertion may have killed it for you. Maybe it's signalling the end of an era or maybe the beast is just screwing with your head. Time will tell. I hope that your journey with the beast is coming to an end. 30 years is too damn long. Gator |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by sandie99 on Nov 6th, 2004, 3:51am Thanks for sharing that with us, Jonny! :) Wishing loads of PFdays, sandie99 |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by karma on Nov 6th, 2004, 6:13am I'm with Pegase and Gator,Maybe its adrenaline and the hassle of getting up the stairs. Its not Likely the Zomig had anything to do with it What ever it is I hope it keeps happening. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by E-Double on Nov 6th, 2004, 8:09am Just glad relief came quick brother!!!! Do whatcha gotta do. E |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by thomas on Nov 6th, 2004, 11:01am Dude, it happens to me all the fucking time, that's why I have to wait so long to abort, because I am afraid I will waste a very expensive abortive. Gena gets them too, where they ramp up real fast and then, POOF .......... gone, whitout a whimper. I am surprised more people haven't had this....... I thought it was just a normal part of ch. Ask Blake, but I think he gets the same stuff too, he calls them "jolts". They are a PITA but beat the hell out of the hour plus grinders. PF wishes. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Redd715 on Nov 6th, 2004, 11:32am I've had that happen but I just considered them twinges of sorts because they didn't last very long at all....hell sometimes they were gone before I could get through the mess of the alcohol swab and getting the cap off the syringe. I never concidered them full on attacks but this happening to others is making me stop and rethink this.... |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by thomas on Nov 6th, 2004, 12:17pm on 11/06/04 at 11:32:59, Redd715 wrote:
Me either, although the pain level is the same, just the duration is much shorter. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Redd715 on Nov 6th, 2004, 12:26pm I never wrote them into the HA diary either...thinking now I prolly should have... Damn it just crossed my mind that this could scew the whole CHATS purpose, because the duation of these don't fit the diagnostic criteria... |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jonny on Nov 6th, 2004, 12:35pm on 11/06/04 at 11:32:59, Redd715 wrote:
Reread my post......I woke with a full blown 10.....it was not something that I felt coming. Thats why I posted....in 30 years a CH has never went away that fast after waking full blown. Edit.....Sorry, my post does not say that I went back to sleep after the first HA...My fault |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Redd715 on Nov 6th, 2004, 12:48pm That is what I'm refering to Hun...the damn thing ramps up and nearly drops me to my knees... and before I can even get the the cap off the syringe it's gone...poof... Happened at work yesterday as a matter of fact...I'm walking back from the fax machine, and my face begins to melt and my eye is watering and I freeze in my tracks and Brenda walks up to me and says ..."Hun there is no need to cry...." In seconds the damn thing passed and I felt like such a whoos. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by BobG on Nov 6th, 2004, 1:22pm on 11/06/04 at 12:48:35, Redd715 wrote:
Did you have a strong urge to slug her? Maybe its the adrenaline thing? |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Redd715 on Nov 6th, 2004, 1:32pm on 11/06/04 at 13:22:47, BobG wrote:
It was the first urge I had I'll admit it.... |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by BobG on Nov 6th, 2004, 1:41pm Quote:
on 11/06/04 at 13:32:51, Redd715 wrote:
LOL......When I read your message I wanted to slug her too. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by eddie on Nov 6th, 2004, 1:41pm germs can get in the eye and bam your are sick with a flu bug why not abortive too? and jimi hendrix rumor, put blotter acid in his eyelids who knows did it burn your eye jonny PFDAN TO ALL |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Redd715 on Nov 6th, 2004, 1:49pm on 11/06/04 at 13:41:47, BobG wrote:
One the other side of the coin Bob, Brenda is the staunchest supporter I have at work... She's the one who has kept reminding the management that no matter how bad my head is, no matter how many times I've had to run to the store room to give myself a shot...I've not once called in sick due to my CH. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by BobG on Nov 6th, 2004, 1:54pm on 11/06/04 at 13:49:15, Redd715 wrote:
Now I want to kiss her! [smiley=hewey.gif] I am so confused. [smiley=confused2.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Redd715 on Nov 6th, 2004, 1:59pm I don't think it crossed her mind at the moment she uttered those words what was happening...as soon as I said that my head was killing me, she said just let her know when I was ok to discuss a certain account. Thats when it went poof...as I was headed to my desk to dig out the syringe I keep in there..(a few more in my purse...never know when you need more than one in a 10 hour shift...) :-/ |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by john_d on Nov 6th, 2004, 2:02pm When I joined the Navy I had to get a waiver for some stuff I got in trouble for. In the office of the lady interviewing me for the waiver I got a fricken CH, I thought 'man, could it be worse timing'. But the result was she thought I was crying, crying over the bad things I had done :'(, after that the waiver went through very fast. It was the only time in my life a CH worked out to be a good thing. ;) |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jonny on Nov 6th, 2004, 2:05pm on 11/06/04 at 13:41:51, eddie wrote:
It did slightly...nothing like getting lacquer thinner in your eye..that shit really hurts, I know....LOL BTW...I was not even thinking of the eye/Zomig thing when I posted....I was thinking about the small amount I got in my nose and how fast it worked. Who knows...I just may try the eye thing next time.....LMAO ;;D |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Woobie on Nov 7th, 2004, 10:06am ok - im just wondering - isn't that what CPH is?? the CH attack pain - but only lasting minutes? maybe ya'll got BOTH. just wondering |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Mr. Happy on Nov 7th, 2004, 11:22am on 11/07/04 at 10:06:04, Woobie wrote:
From the mouths of Babes........... With any luck, the pattern will continue long and steady enough for you to give Indo a test run (like you Need another notch on the belt......) ECH, CCH, CPH. http://mushys.com/pix/eccph.jpg There's got to be a new Tat in there somewhere, RJ |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Redd715 on Nov 7th, 2004, 11:32am on 11/07/04 at 10:06:04, Woobie wrote:
I think you would have a very good point if these short lived attacks we more frequent. They seem to be more sporatic in nature...at least from my experience...I think you'd have to get more than one or two of these sort a day to qualify as CPH? I could be wrong.... |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jonny on Nov 7th, 2004, 1:47pm on 11/07/04 at 10:06:04, Woobie wrote:
Too funny 30 years CH and now woobs diagnosis me.....LMMFAO ;;D |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by vig on Nov 7th, 2004, 2:54pm I'm surprised there hasn't been more developed in the line of eye drops for this... The most direct route to the trigeminal. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Gena on Nov 7th, 2004, 4:17pm on 11/07/04 at 14:54:48, vig wrote:
Hard to do eye drops while your eye is closed and watering....... |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by don on Nov 7th, 2004, 4:33pm Quote:
Told you not to run with a pencil. |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Woobie on Nov 7th, 2004, 6:17pm on 11/07/04 at 13:47:23, Jonny wrote:
HEY! >:( i said i was just wonderin! [smiley=moonwiggle.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jeepgun on Nov 8th, 2004, 11:32am on 11/05/04 at 18:49:15, Jonny wrote:
Zomig bukkake? [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Gator on Nov 8th, 2004, 1:29pm on 11/08/04 at 11:32:21, Jeepgun wrote:
[smiley=spit.gif] ROFLMAO!!! [smiley=crackup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jonny on Nov 8th, 2004, 6:10pm on 11/08/04 at 11:32:21, Jeepgun wrote:
Thats a Japan thing aint it Frank? ;;D |
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Title: Re: Hmmmmmm!.... Post by Jeepgun on Nov 9th, 2004, 9:44am ROFLMAO!! Watch out for those Zomig "money shots," dude. [smiley=laugh.gif] Seriously, I hope you go pain-free and STAY that way. |
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