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(Message started by: justin on Oct 29th, 2004, 5:02pm)

Title: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by justin on Oct 29th, 2004, 5:02pm
Hi Gang!

Just wanted to post an update and say thanks again to all the people I've been talking to. I am currently editing the footage that I shot in Nashville. I hope to use that as a way to get some grant money to finish the film. I would like to come to visit some of you fine people and see how clusters affect your daily lives. So anyway, I'm making a DVD with Chuck's attack on it along with bytes from the interviews I was able to do with some of you in Nashville. I think it will be a really great collection of stories and information that will get our cause out there. If anyone has anything that they would like to share please email me anytime at justinott@mac.com. I'm always looking for good stories or clusterheads who are trying alternative methods or had success with medications, etc.

Hope all is well. Happy Halloween!

Justin

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by Mark C on Oct 29th, 2004, 6:45pm
Thanks for the update Justin.........you just might make us a famous!

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by maria9 on Oct 29th, 2004, 6:54pm
Justin,

Thanks so much for making this video.  We showed this video at the beginning of our meeting with the doctors/researchers in Boston who will be heading the LSD/psilocybin/ cluster headache research.  I can't even describe how the doctors were blindsided by the severity of the pain, they had no idea.  Even the director of Harvard Medical School was impressed and is very openly supporting this research study.  
We are still in need of another $100,000 to support this research, if anybody is interested in making a tax deductible donation to MAPS:

http://www.maps.org/support.html

Be sure to specify in the comments section that the funds are intended for the cluster headache research.

MAPS is just assisting with the donations and research and is not charging any overhead fees.  All the money donated will go directly to the clusterhead research.

Thanks again Justin for your work for the CH cause,

Believe me, it is appreciated,

Marsha

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by ClusterChuck on Oct 29th, 2004, 7:26pm
Thanks for the update, Justin.  Let me know if I can help you at all.  Keep up the good work!!

Chuck

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by maria9 on Oct 29th, 2004, 7:32pm
Thanks Chuck,

 For agreeing to be filmed while having a cluster headache,  can I vote you into the CH hall of fame?

Thanks again,

Marsha

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by Jonny on Oct 29th, 2004, 7:34pm

on 10/29/04 at 18:54:00, maria9 wrote:
 We showed this video at the beginning of our meeting with the doctors/researchers in Boston who will be heading the LSD/psilocybin/ cluster headache research.  


How about a few copies for us suffering bastards to watch and mail to another?

Im sure ALL of us would like to see it.....No?

..................................jonny

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by ClusterChuck on Oct 29th, 2004, 7:51pm
Let me speak up here.  I hope I am not out of line, Justin.

When I agreed to this filming, I gave all rights to it to Justin.  He owns it.  He is trying to make a film.  I am sure, he wants to get the information out, AND make some money.  There is NOTHING wrong with this.  Let him make the film, and earn his money.  After it is out, THEN I would feel better about letting so many people see it.  Let Justin get his portion FIRST.  He earned that right!  He deserves that.  It is his choice, to let it out before then or not, but I think he should hold onto it, until his film is done.  Let him finish his work.

Just my feelings on the requests of him letting it out too soon.

Chuck

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by BobG on Oct 29th, 2004, 7:59pm
I agree 100% with Chuck.

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by Jonny on Oct 29th, 2004, 8:01pm

on 10/29/04 at 19:51:29, ClusterChuck wrote:
AND make some money.    Let Justin get his portion FIRST.  


Hmmmmmm

..............................jonny

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by maria9 on Oct 29th, 2004, 8:50pm
Justin and Chuck,

Your work is so appreciated in the CH realm of things.  Just know that you have truly put forth the effort on behalf of all of us, all the rest of the clusterheads out there.

Thanks so much for your contribution,

Marsha

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by alleyoop on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:01pm

on 10/29/04 at 20:50:14, maria9 wrote:
Justin and Chuck,

Your work is so appreciated in the CH realm of things.  Just know that you have truly put forth the effort on behalf of all of us, all the rest of the clusterheads out there.

Thanks so much for your contribution,

Marsha

Couldn't have said it any better. Thank you guys!

................alley

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by vig on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:20pm
I must admit, I did NOT know this was a capitalist venture.  I wouldn't have signed the release.   :-/

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by Jonny on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:29pm

on 10/29/04 at 21:20:25, vig wrote:
I must admit, I did NOT know this was a capitalist venture.  I wouldn't have signed the release.   :-/


Thats why my ass aint on that shit!

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by ClusterChuck on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:33pm

on 10/29/04 at 21:20:25, vig wrote:
I must admit, I did NOT know this was a capitalist venture.  I wouldn't have signed the release.   :-/

Really?  Come on now!  Lets get real!  Of COURSE he is doing it to get the word out, but also, I think, to make some money at the same time.

What is the problem here?  How can ANYONE hold this against him?  He is doing us a HUGE favor.  I don't see how anyone can begrudge him making a few dollars at the same time.

I hope he makes a LOT of money from it!  The more he makes from it, the wider the distribution he/we get!  I, for one, am damn glad I was able to contribute to his endeavor.  Everyone of you should be too!  It is not like he is taking advantage of us.  Remember, he is one of us!

Chuck

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by vig on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:36pm
I respectfully disagree.
It was not made clear at the time that he was doing this for money.  I thought he was doing this like the CHATS teams was... for the cause, regardless of money.  Any money made from this should go to OuCH.

Just my disappointed opinion.

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by maria9 on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:40pm
Thanks again,  Justin and Chuck!

Marsha

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by ClusterChuck on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:45pm

on 10/29/04 at 21:36:36, vig wrote:
I respectfully disagree.
It was not made clear at the time that he was doing this for money.  I thought he was doing this like the CHATS teams was... for the cause, regardless of money.  Any money made from this should go to OuCH.

Just my disappointed opinion.


I hate to disillusion you, but from my understanding, CHATS is also hoping to make money.  But where is the problem with this?  Why can't these people work hard for us, and make some money for themselves at the same time?  It is not like they are taking the money from us!

Remember, these people are  HELPING us!!!

Chuck

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by M.R. on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:56pm
  At the risk of seeming ignorant here, who is maria9/Marsha? Was just curious.


Mike

Edited to say Thank you Justin

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by alleyoop on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:00pm

on 10/29/04 at 21:45:21, ClusterChuck wrote:
I hate to disillusion you, but from my understanding, CHATS is also hoping to make money.  But where is the problem with this?  Why can't these people work hard for us, and make some money for themselves at the same time?  It is not like they are taking the money from us!

Remember, these people are  HELPING us!!!

Chuck


http://forums.catholic.com/images/smilies/signs/amen.png

.........................alley ::)

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by vig on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:22pm
I thought the CHATS money was to be funnelled to OuCH... I could be wrong.  I'm not saying I'm against it.  I AM saying this is the first I've heard of it.

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by BobG on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:27pm
Help me out here folks. I'm confused. I read and re-read Justin's message and the only "money" thing I see is he is hoping for a grant to continue the work.

How did this get to be a "capitalist venture"? When and/or where did Justin say he was going to be making any money from his project?

Just asking.

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by Jayne on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:31pm
Hey Justin
I don't give a bugger if you make money from this .....I just want to THANK YOU for what you are doing.

With much gratitude
Jayne  (who wants the world to know how her head hurts)

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by unsolved1 on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:33pm
Hey Justin...does this mean I have to pay to watch a film i'm in ?
J/K

Seems to me ... if he was going to make $$ from doing this ..... the more  $$ her makes, the more exposure that we'd get.

Unsolved

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by vig on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:35pm

on 10/29/04 at 19:51:29, ClusterChuck wrote:
I am sure, he wants to get the information out, AND make some money.  There is NOTHING wrong with this.  Let him make the film, and earn his money.  ... Let Justin get his portion FIRST.  He earned that right!  He deserves that.  
Chuck

I don't think Justin ever mentioned it.  I got the idea from CHuck's post.  Maybe I'm all wrong.  Good point

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by Jonny on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:41pm
Alls I know is he didnt have enough money to get me on tape.....he even insulted me and hes still alive........I was in a good mood that day...........PUNK!


Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by john_d on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:42pm
this thread is overfilled with misunderstandings.   ;)  But after reading the whole all the posts, I have concluded noone actually did anything wrong.   8)

edit
Just saw your post jonny,  that I would call that wrong- but I don't have information to really figure out.  If I was doing the video, I would have gotten you on tape- you could count on it, what a missed opportunity.

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by Jonny on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:54pm

on 10/29/04 at 22:42:42, john_d wrote:
Just saw your post jonny,  .


Insulting me will get your ass reamed.....it was an OUCH convention.

How could I do that?.....LOL

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by justin on Oct 29th, 2004, 11:32pm
LOL! you guys are great. I love my clusterhead family.

There is little intention of making money on this film. There really is no market for independent documentaries. That's why I'm trying to raise money through grants. The main objective is to get the word out. It's something that everyone one of us will have acces to when it's done. I'll set up a website and you all can purchase it on dvd at the cost of a blank dvd :) - then you can hand it to your dr., your friends, familiy, etc. BUT, I am a filmmaker. And I only want to use my abilities to do some good for us. I want to get it into some festivals and see what happens. It's just more exposure. For clusterheads and myself as a filmmaker. If it does sell or make any money then I would like to donate a good portion of that to OUCH , it's always been my intention. I'm not defending myself, but I just wanted to make it clear incase I hadn't already :)

you all are so great. as i head into my fall cycle i can watch the footage from nashville and draw strength from it knowing that you all got my back! :)

thanks again!
justin


Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by unsolved1 on Oct 30th, 2004, 4:11am

on 10/29/04 at 23:32:20, justin wrote:
as i head into my fall cycle


That sux ! Hope ya skip it or it is a short one ! Either way, be prepared !

PF Wishes,
Unsolved

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by Svenn on Oct 30th, 2004, 4:22am

on 10/29/04 at 19:59:53, BobG wrote:
I agree 100% with Chuck.


DAMN

hate to admit it but so do i

Svenn

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by Svenn on Oct 30th, 2004, 5:15am

on 10/29/04 at 19:32:07, maria9 wrote:
Thanks Chuck,

 For agreeing to be filmed while having a cluster headache,  can I vote you into the CH hall of fame?

Thanks again,

Marsha



Ditto on that too

What Chuck did was a major contribution on get clusterheadache known to the people.

From my standpoint and experience with the film its just priceless for us

And a MAJOR thanx to Justin for doing this magnificent work.

Svenn

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by kimmiedawn81 on Oct 30th, 2004, 2:10pm
I think it's awesome what you are doing Justin.  I really commend you and Chuck.
By the way, I'm a struggling student....wanna send me some of that money?  J/K

Good luck with everything!

Title: Re: Clusterheads Documentary
Post by unsolved1 on Oct 30th, 2004, 6:08pm

on 10/29/04 at 23:32:20, justin wrote:
It's something that everyone one of us will have acces to when it's done. I'll set up a website and you all can purchase it on dvd at the cost of a blank dvd :) -


Have any idea of when that'll be ready ??

Unsolved



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