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(Message started by: Nathan on Oct 13th, 2004, 1:08pm)

Title: chs and child birth
Post by Nathan on Oct 13th, 2004, 1:08pm
hi folks,
this is for all the women with chs that have had at least 2 kids... which pain is worse, chs (a 10 on the kip scale) or child birth. my wife doesnt believe any pain can be worse than childbirth, im just trying to get a second opinion. thanks! ---Nathan

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by broomhilda on Oct 13th, 2004, 1:10pm

on 10/13/04 at 13:08:22, Nathan wrote:
hi folks,
this is for all the women with chs that have had at least 2 kids... which pain is worse, chs (a 10 on the kip scale) or child birth. my wife doesnt believe any pain can be worse than childbirth, im just trying to get a second opinion. thanks! ---Nathan

Hi Nathan I have only had one child, however that being said I would rather give birth out of any orrifice 6 to 8 times per day than have ch ;;D


edit, my smilies dont work, oh well....:(
The pain is much worse :-/

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Melissa on Oct 13th, 2004, 1:16pm
It's no contest.  CH's are worse. :(

I have a 15month old and a 10yr old.

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Jeepgun on Oct 13th, 2004, 1:45pm
I just gave birth to a ten-pound brown baby, and boy, was that little fucker ever GROUCHY! I had no choice but to pull the flush handle. (and use lots of deoderizing spray)  That little bastard was like having a 250 lb jailhouse dude named Norm, who isn't a gentle lover. Come to think of it, maybe I need more fiber in my diet....  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by echo on Oct 13th, 2004, 1:48pm

on 10/13/04 at 13:10:57, broomhilda wrote:
Hi Nathan I have only had one child, however that being said I would rather give birth out of any orrifice 6 to 8 times per day than have ch ;;D


:-/


Guess that pretty much sums it up.

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Tiannia on Oct 13th, 2004, 2:23pm

on 10/13/04 at 13:10:57, broomhilda wrote:
Hi Nathan I have only had one child, however that being said I would rather give birth out of any orrifice 6 to 8 times per day than have ch ;;D


edit, my smilies dont work, oh well....:(
The pain is much worse :-/



Have to agree.  Child birth was nothing, and that is saying a lot.  Have a 7 yr old who put me through 4 months of labor that they kept stopping with bed rest and then 20 hours of labor (a week after my due date) with 5 hours of hard labor.  Also have a 2 yr old.

Childbirth has an end to it that is worth what you go though. There is NO reward for having CH and there is no end in sight for some of us, especially those of us that are chronic.

-Tia

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Karla on Oct 13th, 2004, 2:51pm
i gave birth to twins 1 1/2 hours apart due to complications and was in hard labor the whole time.  I was in hard labor 14 hours straight.  It was hell but I would take it over a cluster headache any day.

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Valerie on Oct 13th, 2004, 3:26pm
I have a 4 year old and a 3 year old -  I would have 15 more if I could get rid of the headaches - there is absolutely no comparison.  Childbirth is something the body is supposed to do and there is a reward and an END to it.  CH's are extremely painful and not natural - I hate them.  It's not a pain that can be described to other people.

Valerie

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by ArCane on Oct 13th, 2004, 3:28pm

on 10/13/04 at 13:45:54, Jeepgun wrote:
I just gave birth to a ten-pound brown baby, and boy, was that little fucker ever GROUCHY! I had no choice but to pull the flush handle. (and use lots of deoderizing spray)  That little bastard was like having a 250 lb jailhouse dude named Norm, who isn't a gentle lover. Come to think of it, maybe I need more fiber in my diet....  [smiley=laugh.gif]

ROFL!!  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by nani on Oct 13th, 2004, 3:36pm
2 kids - 2 long (15 hr) labors.  CH is MUCH worse. The only plus is you don't have to change any smelly diapers, but you still can't sleep during the night... :(

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by BarbaraG on Oct 13th, 2004, 3:51pm
2 kids, 2 c-sections.   c-sections over ch 100 times.  don't know what I would do with all those kids though.  BarbG

Title: Re: chs and child birth or gettin yer arm jopped o
Post by vietvet2tours on Oct 13th, 2004, 4:11pm
yep ch is worse than gettin yer arm blown off.

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Oct 13th, 2004, 4:20pm
No contest!  What they all said!  Childbirth - a walk in the park compared to CH.

Carol

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Nathan on Oct 14th, 2004, 8:14am

on 10/13/04 at 14:23:26, Tiannia wrote:
Childbirth has an end to it that is worth what you go though. There is NO reward for having CH and there is no end in sight for some of us, especially those of us that are chronic.

-Tia


i am chronic, have been for over 4 years now and my longest break in that whole time has been one month when i was on heavy narcotics(codine). so i can totally relate...except for the child birthing part.
   vet brought up another topic i was gonna post but i thought it might be to insensitive... how does chs compare to losing a limb in an accident once you figure in shock, trauma, loss of blood, ect... im just trying to figure out if my complaining about the pain is justified... or if im just a big baby. LOL! ----Nathan
   ps, hey kara, remember me? its been awhile, nice to see you again!

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by E-Double on Oct 14th, 2004, 12:26pm

on 10/14/04 at 08:14:53, Nathan wrote:
im just trying to figure out if my complaining about the pain is justified... or if im just a big baby. LOL! ----Nathan

You're a big baby!!
Out of the 4660 people listed on the board you are absolutely the first to complain about the pain.
Suck it up!..........Just kidding.

I am actually very surprised by the responses from the female CH contingent. I have always heard that it is the most pain (giving birth) that one would be glad to do over and over because of the gift that is given yet to hear that CH is even more painful (not because of the outcome or lack there of but just intensity) blows me away.

I give some extra support for those blessed with a uterus and a screwed up hypothingy   :)

Cool thread.

E.

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Nathan on Oct 17th, 2004, 10:12am
i didnt mean i thought i was bieng a big baby among everyone here, i know everyone here can relate to my pain, otherwise you wouldnt be here! i was refering to my wife and other people around me that think a cluster is just a headache (partly my fault cause i refuse to call them migranes) and say it cant be that bad, nothing is as bad as childbirth, ect. ive always been under the assumption that women had a higher pain threshold because they are the bearer of children so to hear so many of them here say they would rather give birth daily than have an attack daily just verifies for me that i was right. chs does seem to be the worst possible pain out there, no matter what part of the body the pain is comming from.
     now if you dont mind, can all of you come over to my house and get this fact through my wifes stubborn head? i appreceate it, thanks. LOL!

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Redd715 on Oct 17th, 2004, 11:21am
Two children here.  First was born after 32 hours hard back labor and the damn OBGYN "forgot" to break the water till he crowned.  (over 175 stiches and bruises to my knees).  Second, induced labor. (I don't recommend this if at all avoidable).  

I'd have a dozen more kids to be rid of the beast.  And that includes all the pukeing, back aches, etc for the nine months before it too.


Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Nathan on Oct 17th, 2004, 12:14pm
hi again folks
i should probably start this on a new thread but it all kind of ties in together.... now that we have pretty much covered the child birth thing.... can ANYONE give me an example of pain worse than chs? im wondering exctally how much pain were actually dealing with and how strong we must be to go through this pain and not off ourselves (believe me, the thought has crossed my mind more than once). any pain, any part of the body, thats worse than chs. thats what im looking for. thanks again guys. ----nathan---chronic for 4 years running with only one break in a every other day cycle

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Opus on Oct 17th, 2004, 1:45pm
I have had none so far,

Maybe someone has had their head blown off,

I think that would be worse.......


Oh Wait!


Opus/Paul

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by cschick on Oct 17th, 2004, 2:18pm
the pain of CH is way worse than childbirth!  10x worse.  20x worse - Geez, I don't think it even compares.  With childbirth the pain slowly builds so you are able to breathe through each contraction and prepare for the next one.  With CH there is no building up it is just WHAM and I forget how to breathe, the pain is that intense.  All I know is that I would have to agree with the other ladies here.  I would go thru 1000 labors if it meant I would never had another CH!  So tell your wife to put that in her pipe and smoke it.  

Karen

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Bec on Oct 17th, 2004, 3:51pm
Two kids here, both natural. Childbirth is a diff. kind of pain and you get a great gift at the end of it.  I would have to agree with everyone here, I would rather go thru labor and the  birth  again anyday, if it meant I would never get hit again.

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Renee on Oct 17th, 2004, 3:54pm
I have found one thing more painful than CH.  It is a very rare and last ditch effort to avoid a craniotomy but having a lumbar drain inserted into my spinal column and having the cerebral spinal fluid drained, 15cc every 4 hours for a week, had me asking God to let me die.  Take all the fluids from around your brain and spine away and no amount of morphine or anything else will help with that constant pain that was continuous for over a week.

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Karla on Oct 17th, 2004, 4:10pm
My right felopian tube twisted 3x.  I was having severe constant abdominal pain.  I went to the er and was given a shot of demerol and sent home.  They said they thought it was a cycst and to followup with my dr in the morning if it still hurt.  Well the shot didn't do nothing and I called my dr first thing asap. in am.  By the time I saw my dr it was 9am.  I was on the floor collapsed, crying, and in severe pain.  My dr picked me up, carried me to the ER and addmitted me.  Ran tests and found out what was up.  He did emergency surgery and removed my right overy.  He said "How long has this pain been going on?"  I said 3 days.  He asked why I didn't come in sooner.  I said because the pain never got as bad as my ha until now.  He was floored.  He said most women would have been in in 12 hours or less.  He became the best dr in the world when it came to advocating for my ha.  Finally someone who could comprehend what I was talking about for pain and relate it.  I cried when I lost that dr.  

Gallbladder attach was as misserable as a migraine to me on the comparison scale. 

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by alleyoop on Oct 17th, 2004, 4:53pm
Well.....
http://thumb6.webshots.com/s/thumb3/5/6/96/201750696SAJZyQ_th.jpg
...in a couple more weeks, I'll let you know which is worse.

....................alley ;;D

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by E-Double on Oct 17th, 2004, 9:24pm

on 10/17/04 at 16:53:55, alleyoop wrote:
Well.....
http://thumb6.webshots.com/s/thumb3/5/6/96/201750696SAJZyQ_th.jpg
...in a couple more weeks, I'll let you know which is worse.

....................alley ;;D

It's a bouncing baby
Bacon Double cheeseburger Deluxe!  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by vig on Oct 17th, 2004, 11:02pm
"can ANYONE give me an example of pain worse than chs? "
my ex   [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Nathan on Oct 26th, 2004, 7:55pm
you know, untill you said "my ex", that thought hadnt even occured to me!! dealing with my ex WOULD be a worse pain!! i have had all my teeth pulled under simple novocaine all at once and that was a walk in the park compared to my chs, but my ex.... worse pain but at least if necessary i can kill her!!

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by mawmaw on Oct 26th, 2004, 8:15pm
My husband has had a below thw knee amputation and I know for a fact that he would give up his other leg to get rid of CH. He had horrible fathom pain for 2 years after amputation, but he would go through it all again to get rid of these awful headaches.


Mawmaw Cindy

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by john_d on Oct 26th, 2004, 8:31pm
Hello Cindy.  fathom pain?  I can only imagine what that must be like.   CH's are terrible,  I am always suprised by the amount of pain- it is a level of pain that I have never been able to accurately remember.   I have been out of cycle for a while now, don't want to see them again ever, ever, ever. I hope it stays that way!  

/John D

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Nathan on Oct 27th, 2004, 12:52am
good luck john!! go out and do every thing you ever wanted to just in case they do come back. (not tryin to jinx ya) you basicaly have your life back, go use it!! btw, ive always wanted to jump out of a perfectly good airplane.... think you can squeeze that in for me? stay pain free and reclaim your life. ya lucky bastard!! LOL!!!---N

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by taraann on Oct 27th, 2004, 12:04pm
I have two kids (3 and 4 yrs old) my first put me through 1.5 hrs pushing alone.  They upped my pitocin too fast and at one point during my labor my contractions would peak then go down about half way then peak again without any break for about an hour.  My second I went through early labor for a month with trying to stop my labor till her lungs where mature enough.  

All that said I still have to say I would much rather give birth any ol day compared to CH.  Plus at the end of a birht you have a wonderful gift.......what gift does a CH give???

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Hirvimaki on Oct 27th, 2004, 12:33pm
Being male, I have no way to compare it, although I have always told my wife that a lot of women with CH claim the pain is much worse than childbirth. Now that she had our first child, she tells me CH better be worse. She had such an easy labor (under two hours, no drugs, no tearing) that she is now no longer impressed with the comparison. :)

I can say that CH is much worse than being shot at close range through the chest and arm. True, it was not a large caliber, but the bullet shattered while passing through and left quite a mess on exit. I'd take that again over a BAD (upper KIP) CH attack any day.

Hirvimaki-Isi

Title: Re: chs and child birth
Post by Tiannia on Oct 27th, 2004, 12:56pm

on 10/26/04 at 20:15:23, mawmaw wrote:
He had horrible fathom pain for 2 years after amputation, but he would go through it all again to get rid of these awful headaches.


Mawmaw Cindy


not to get off the subject but I always thought the term was phantom pain.



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