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(Message started by: don on Oct 7^th, 2004, 11:07am)

Title: Hep C cured ?
Post by don on Oct 7^th, 2004, 11:07am

I had a bazillion blood tests done this week. One was for my Hep C viral load. All the tests have come back except that one.

Given the other test results and the lack of risk factors the last 10 years my Doc suspects that there will be no viral load. He suspects my liver has eradicated itself of the virus. An enormous spike in the viral load a couple of years ago may have been it's last ditch attempt to GET ME.

I'll post when I know.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by eddie on Oct 7^th, 2004, 11:11am

i wish you luck
PFDAN TO

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Rock_Lobster on Oct 7^th, 2004, 11:25am

Yow. Tell me that would not be sweet news.

Gotta watch what you put in your mouth at the bath-house from now on.

http://www.munich-cruising.de/Bilder-Lokale/schw%20men%20sauna.jpg

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by don on Oct 7^th, 2004, 11:36am

wise ass.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Rock_Lobster on Oct 7^th, 2004, 11:43am

Thx. I will be here all week. Try the veal.

We know who you caught it from...

http://www.genflor.com/topmodels/pamela-anderson/pamela_anderson_20-p.jpg

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by don on Oct 7^th, 2004, 11:51am

God. I wish you were right about that. LMAO

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Jeepgun on Oct 7^th, 2004, 3:27pm

Congrats, Don. Glad to hear that you are free of the virus now.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by vig on Oct 7^th, 2004, 3:45pm

Wouldn't THAT be cool?!
I mean being free of the disease, not being with the skank ho. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by don on Oct 7^th, 2004, 4:18pm

Quote:

not being with the skank ho.

I like skank ho's.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by thomas on Oct 7^th, 2004, 4:20pm

on 10/07/04 at 16:18:35, don wrote:

I like skank ho's.

Yeah! and they like him too! ;;D

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Jonny on Oct 7^th, 2004, 4:23pm

Lead singer for the Red hot chilli peppers was on Stern today, He says he cured his Hep C with ozone (WTF is that?) and herbal stuff.

Good for you Don my brother, no jokes from me on this one, man!!

..................................jonny

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by don on Oct 7^th, 2004, 5:09pm

Quote:

cured his Hep C with ozone (WTF is that?) and herbal stuff

Beats the fuck outta me. If mine is actually cured it was not so much by what I have done but by what I haven't done. No drugs, no alcohol, no risk factors. Keeping my fingers crossed on this one. Should know for sure by tommorow.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by thomas on Oct 7^th, 2004, 5:13pm

on 10/07/04 at 17:09:30, don wrote:

Should know for sure by tommorow.

Can't wait to hear good news tomorrow, bro. You will be in my thoughts this evening.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by alleyoop on Oct 7^th, 2004, 6:24pm

Pullin' for ya Don!

.................alley

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Tim_Z on Oct 7^th, 2004, 6:26pm

I'm with Vig on this one. I think she has gohnnasyphiherpalize.

Tim

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by kimh on Oct 7^th, 2004, 7:04pm

Hey Don,

Best of luck Mr. Big :) Thinkin of ya.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Sean_C on Oct 7^th, 2004, 7:56pm

Wishin you the best of Luck Don, I know this moment has probably been on your wish list for a while. I'm with you bud ((((((((((((vibes))))))))))))))))

Sean............... ;;D

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by K-9 on Oct 7^th, 2004, 8:51pm

Prayers for you. Hope tomorrows news confirms today's hopes!!!!!

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Leesa on Oct 7^th, 2004, 9:34pm

Vibes going that tom. brings good news for ya hun. Let us know!!!!
Love, Leesa :-*

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Kevin_M on Oct 7^th, 2004, 9:36pm

Good thoughts for you on this one Don.

I really hope, that's gonna be that.

8)

Kevin M

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Charlie on Oct 8^th, 2004, 1:19am

All us brain-damaged types on on your side Don.

Chins up

Charlie

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Big Dan on Oct 8^th, 2004, 2:46am

on 10/07/04 at 16:23:54, Jonny wrote:

He says he cured his Hep C with ozone
..................................jonny

Sure he did... Ozone is poisonous to humans. (btw, its the shit that has a hole in it... ya know.. makes up over 90% of our atmosphere)

And grat's don... fan-fuckin'-tastic news... ;;D

-Big Dan

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Giovanni on Oct 8^th, 2004, 6:55am

Best of luck to you Don.

My brother has been fighting that thing for years. He's lucky in being in one clinical trial after another and receiving the latest treatments. His has not been cured, but the damage rate has been very slow.

John

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by thomas on Oct 8^th, 2004, 10:48am

HEY!!!!!! What's up? Any news................. waiting patiently, yet hopefully. :)

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by don on Oct 8^th, 2004, 9:45pm

Test isn't back yet. Gotta wait till Tuesday now.

It's gonna be a long three day weekend..

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Sean_C on Oct 8^th, 2004, 9:48pm

Hopefully no news is good news ;;D Hang tough Don

Sean................

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Cathi04 on Oct 9^th, 2004, 10:26am

Bumping this for Nan..One-Eye-blind, so she can see some hope with Hep C...how did Reds visit go, Nan?

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by sailpappy on Oct 12^th, 2004, 12:39pm

;;D Praying for a good result Don!
I go for my next viral load test on the 15th and hoping for some good news myself, an by the way Ozone is what most of those over priced air cleaners produce, they are actually Ozone generators, thats why we never bought one! Even though my Aunt sells them!
Pappy

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by don on Oct 12^th, 2004, 2:44pm

It is now Tuesday and I'm still waiting for a call back.

He dont want me coming up there.

"Security to Doctor Morrells office"

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Leesa on Oct 12^th, 2004, 3:36pm

DAMN!! >:( they move slower then pond water. I was hoping you would have some good if not GREAT news for us. Keep us posted babe!!! Fingers crossed!!
Leesa :-*

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by OneEyeBlind on Oct 12^th, 2004, 5:05pm

Don, patience is a virtue. The PCR test (poly chain reaction) has to be incubated for a few days. The normal turn around time is 5 - 10 days. Just keep doing what you are doing .. (no drinking, no durgs) it's healthy for your liver.

As far as the Ozone, or giving up drinking and drugs ... well, it just don't get rid of the HepC (at least according to the medical sites). Neither does the old milk thistle or other homeophathic remedies. In fact, some of the homeopathics can kill ya with a bad liver. But being kind to your liver is always a good thing. Keep up the good work and Good luck !

Remember, it's your LFT's (which you should have already gotten a reading on ... and I think they came back good) that show how actively your liver is being destroyed. The Viral Load really doesn't mean crap in determining what liver disease is going on (as far as I have been able to read).

Again, good luck.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by floridian on Oct 12^th, 2004, 5:35pm

Milk thistle is not a homeopathic remedy (unless some homepaths have recently cooked up a dilution of it, which would probably make it worthless.) In Belgium, it is a prescription medicine in use by mainstream doctors, although it is also a traditional herbal treatment for liver problems. And from what we know, it is virtually non-toxic. It doesn't directly zap the viruses that cause liver disease, but it can sometimes protect against liver damage caused by hepatitis viruses, solvents like carbon tet and alcohol, and some poisonous mushrooms. People with liver problems are advised to read up on milk thistle.

Quote:

J Pharm Belg. 2003;58(1):28-31.

[St. Mary's Thistle: an overview]

[Article in French]

Laekeman G, De Coster S, De Meyer K.

K.U.Leuven.

St. Marys Thistle has been approved for registration as a regular medicine in Belgium. The hepatotropic properties of this plant are rather difficult to evaluate objectively. Mortality rate in case of life-threatening hepatic diseases is the most objective parameter. Legalon is the only drug registered in Belgium. It has a prescription only status. The plant Silybum marianum is a thistle and as a consequence belongs to the Compositae. There is a limited production of St.-Marys Thistle in Pajottenland, west of Brussels. The seeds are exported to Italy in order to extract silymarine, a mixture of flavonolignanes with antioxidant properties. Silymarine has been tested in living animals deliberately intoxicated with mushroom toxins, medicines, heavy metals or toxic organic solvents. Preventive as well as curative activity has been confirmed. Silymarine accumulates in the liver, which is also the target organ in therapy. Silymarine improves the prognosis after accidental ingestion of the toxic Amanita phalloides. Patients infected with hepatitis B and C might benefit from Silymarine, but more data have to be generated. Silymarine given to patients with liver damages by alcohol lowers the death toll. The drug has a general safety pattern comparable to placebo.

Good for pancreatitis, too.

Quote:

Life Sci. 2004 Sep 17;75(18):2167-80. Related Articles, Links

Silymarin induces recovery of pancreatic function after alloxan damage in rats.

Soto C, Mena R, Luna J, Cerbon M, Larrieta E, Vital P, Uria E, Sanchez M, Recoba R, Barron H, Favari L, Lara A.

Department of Biological Systems, Metropolitan Autonomous University, Mexico. casoto@correo.xoc.uam.mx

Alloxan has been widely used to produce experimental diabetes mellitus syndrome. This compound causes necrosis of pancreatic beta-cells and, as is well known, induces oxidant free radicals which play a relevant role in the etiology and pathogenesis of both experimental and human diabetes mellitus. Previously we have reported hypoglycemic and antilipoperoxidative actions of silymarin in serum and pancreatic tissue respectively. The aim of this study was to test whether silymarin could reduce the hyperglycemia and revert the pancreatic damage in alloxan treated rats, tested with silymarin in two protocols: using both compounds simultaneously for four or eight doses, or using the compound 20 days after alloxan administration for 9 weeks. Serum glucose and insulin were determined, and pancreatic fragments were used for histology and insulin immunohistochemistry. Pancreatic islets were isolated to assess insulin and Pdx1 mRNA expression by RT-PCR. Our results showed that 72 hours after alloxan administration, serum glucose increased and serum insulin decreased significantly, whereas pancreatic tissue presented morphological abnormalities such as islet shrinkage, necrotic areas, loss of cell organization, widespread lipoid deposits throughout the exocrine tissue, and loss of beta cells, but insulin and glucagon immunoreactivity was scattered if any. In contrast the pancreatic tissue and both insulin and glucose serum levels of rats treated with silymarin were similar to those of control animals. In addition, insulin and glucagon immunoreactive cells patterns in Langerhans islets were also normal, and normal insulin and Pdx1 mRNA expression patterns were detected during pancreatic recovery in Langerhans islets. The overall results suggest that silymarin induces pancreatic function recovery demonstrated by insulin and glucagon expression protein and normoglycemia after alloxan pancreatic damage in rats.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by don on Oct 12^th, 2004, 7:17pm

No problem anyway.

I'm homeopathphobic. 8)

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Donna_D. on Oct 12^th, 2004, 9:26pm

on 10/12/04 at 19:17:06, don wrote:

No problem anyway.

I'm homeopathphobic. 8)

Jonny always said you were a homo...

Now we know what he REALLY means.

;)

Hope you get good news, Don.

DD

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Donna_D. on Oct 13^th, 2004, 11:20pm

Hey Don!!!

You going to leave us in suspense or has that doc STILL not called you back?

DD

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by kimh on Oct 14^th, 2004, 5:06pm

Yeah don. I know yer prolly all depressed and shit cuz of the Yankee thing (lol), but try an pull yaself out of it and check in cuz we are thinkin of ya - even though your team sux and you are a poop head.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by don on Oct 14^th, 2004, 6:39pm

OK. Virus is still there but at such low counts that neither treatment nor even a biopsi is neccesary. All liver fuctions normal and no obvious inflammation.

So I'll just keep on keepin on.

Sort of like the Red Sox (who will trounce the living shit outta the Yankees at Fenway)

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by broomhilda on Oct 14^th, 2004, 6:45pm

Good to hear, great news Don!!!!

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Jackie on Oct 14^th, 2004, 7:12pm

YES!!!!!

and that's all I gotta say on the subject.....

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Jonny on Oct 14^th, 2004, 8:12pm

on 10/14/04 at 18:39:52, don wrote:

OK. Virus is still there but at such low counts that neither treatment nor even a biopsi is neccesary. All liver fuctions normal and no obvious inflammation.

Does that mean im safe? :o

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by OneEyeBlind on Oct 14^th, 2004, 8:35pm

No Jonny, you are such a honk that Don is still gonna want ya !

Congrats on the viral load being low Don. Keep up the LFT tests though, cause like I said, the viral load doesn't indicate liver problems, but the LFT's normally do.

Great news though. Who wants a viral load when ya got Jonny ???????????? He's load enough.

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Leesa on Oct 14^th, 2004, 9:08pm

Glad to hear it Don. Keep doing what youve been doin babe. Now bring me a coke damnit! LOL ;)
Love, Leesa :-*

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Giovanni on Oct 14^th, 2004, 9:14pm

Hey Don,

That's just about the same results my brother gets. They figure he'll go another 40 years at that rate, but he'll die before the liver goes of old age. ;;D

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by kimh on Oct 14^th, 2004, 9:30pm

hey don, FUCKIN A!!!!..............poop head

about the yankee thing....keep dreamin poop head

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by forgetfulnot on Oct 15^th, 2004, 1:07am

Truth, you can not rid your body of HCV, Maybe for a while but it's always there. Good luck.

Lee

Title: Re: Hep C cured ?
Post by Charlie on Oct 15^th, 2004, 2:39pm

http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/woot.gifYeah, this one of those effen things where the bug never goes; it just lays there and farts, I think. Fortunately, if you're mean enough....or in your case just silly enough, the thing doesn't have much more than a toehold. 8)

Nice going Don. Very nice to hear.

Charilie