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Title: Debates Post by alleyoop on Sep 30th, 2004, 7:58pm are tonight. (thought that'd get your attention) ;;D |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Jonny on Sep 30th, 2004, 8:32pm Me debating you Bob. jonny: Shut the fuck up or ill kill you Bob: Ok End of debate ;;D Im just riding you, Bro......dont get overheated ;;D ....................................jonny |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Kevin_M on Sep 30th, 2004, 9:36pm I think I've heard enough already. I've made my mind up, for sure. I see a clear....... [smiley=looser.gif] Kevin M |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by nani on Sep 30th, 2004, 9:42pm I'm listening to them now - talk about a LOSER [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by vig on Sep 30th, 2004, 9:49pm a little hard to watch, isn't it? Did he just say 'nucular' again? You'd think he'd practice that one.... [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by nani on Sep 30th, 2004, 9:52pm yes - it is. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Jayne on Sep 30th, 2004, 10:31pm I almost peed myself when Bush said. " My apponent is sending maxed missiges" (Mixed messages) [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by jhammer on Sep 30th, 2004, 10:32pm on 09/30/04 at 22:31:40, Jayne wrote:
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Sep 30th, 2004, 10:45pm I liked the way Bush put his Texas accent on Putin's name- Valadimr. Score: Kerry 1 Bush 0 IMHO...................alley :( edit: Jonny, me get overheated? http://www.decalzone.com/images/decals/flames/flm093z.png |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Charlie on Sep 30th, 2004, 10:53pm Not exciting. Won't change many minds. Hope you enjoy the endless recaps... Yawn. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by don on Sep 30th, 2004, 11:05pm Its like attacking Mexico because of Pearl Harbor. ROFLMMFAO. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Sean_C on Sep 30th, 2004, 11:14pm Thought I'd throw a funny in here ;;D http://www.jibjab.com/thisland.html Sean........................ |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by nani on Sep 30th, 2004, 11:32pm "China has a bigger influence on North Korea than even America does." You think? :o |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by BarbaraD on Oct 1st, 2004, 6:09am on 09/30/04 at 23:05:16, don wrote:
That was definitely one of my favorites.... Kerry =2 Bush = 0 But who's keeping score? Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Svenn on Oct 1st, 2004, 7:47am Just did see it here 1-0 to Kerry the way i see it Svenn |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Jeepgun on Oct 1st, 2004, 8:15am If they put on boxing gloves and went at it for twelve rounds in the ring, I'd watch. Otherwise, uh... I think I'll go buff my toenails or something.... [smiley=jammin.gif] [smiley=sleep.gif] |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Rock_Lobster on Oct 1st, 2004, 8:29am No lie Jeep. New debate rule: At the final debate, if, at the 5-minutes remaining mark, one candidate was not declared a decisive debate winner by 75%+ of those polled, each candidate is handed a random Dewalt power tool. 'Lurch draws a chop-saw! Oooo!' 'And Dubya gets... an angle grinder! Ahhhh!' 'Come out fighting!' |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Rock_Lobster on Oct 1st, 2004, 8:34am on 09/30/04 at 20:32:57, Jonny wrote:
Moderator Lobstah: Foul! No direct threats! Bob gets to teabag jonny. jonny (being manhandled to the floor by debate bouncers): hey! what the...! get offa me, bitch! Bob: Hold his teeth open. There you go. He likes that shit. Don: Can I go next? You wont have to hold me down. /dont wanna work today |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Jeepgun on Oct 1st, 2004, 8:54am on 10/01/04 at 08:29:33, Rock_Lobster wrote:
LOL! Yeah, I could get into that! Or, "Dub/Lurch Ultimate Fighting!" [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by don on Oct 1st, 2004, 10:55am Quote:
Are the debate bouncers trashy looking women? If so then I WANT to be held down. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by StueyStu on Oct 1st, 2004, 10:58am I am glad that Kerry chose to point out that it wasn't Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 as it has already been determined by the 9/11 commission. Al Queda and Bin Laden are in Afghanistan and Pakistan, not Iraq. More and more young people are dying for the wrong reasons. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Cathi04 on Oct 1st, 2004, 11:00am For THAT, they pre-empted Wiill and Grace????? AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!! Vote gang.. please? Cathi :-* |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by StueyStu on Oct 1st, 2004, 11:04am I plan to be the first on line in my district even if my hair looks scary and teeth aint brushed. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by don on Oct 1st, 2004, 11:05am Meanwhile back in Brittania............... "Tony Blair was admitted to the ER today for repeatedly hitting himself in the nuts with a ball peen hammer while muttering "Bushwhacker, Bushwkacker, Bushwacker". |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by nani on Oct 1st, 2004, 11:07am Quote:
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Melissa on Oct 1st, 2004, 11:14am oh great, here we go again... ::) |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Jeepgun on Oct 1st, 2004, 11:25am *yawwwwwwwwwwwn....* [smiley=sleep.gif] <------in hibernation until mid-November.... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz... |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by don on Oct 1st, 2004, 11:29am Quote:
It's still early. Wait for the next two rounds. Dubya is bound to get flusstered and start tripping over his lips. Thats when the Conan and Leno material starts to flow. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by ArCane on Oct 1st, 2004, 11:41am I'm a Republican through and through. But I must say Kerry won that last night. He even impressed me which is hard for a Democrat to do. I bet the Kerry camp had a party after this one. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by BobG on Oct 1st, 2004, 12:03pm Hey Jonny. When you said Bob, you were referring to Bob-the-Boob, right? Did you notice he hasn't responded to this string. Hey Boob. your guy lost! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Melissa on Oct 1st, 2004, 12:06pm BobG, Jonny was referring to Alleyoop (another Bob). :)mel btw, I know what you're trying to do!! You can't fool me!! hahaha ;) |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Oct 1st, 2004, 12:34pm Dubya was enept to say the least and I thought SK left some great openings that seemed to go right over Bush's head. What is the "global test" that Kerry says we need to pass unless he's referring to getting the UN's permission. Flip flop SK says Dubya should have had more nations involved before invading Iraq, but wants to handle N Korea bilaterally. And Kerry spoke of all the HV's in Iraq with no armor, when he voted against the $80billion+ to fund the war. Kerry won this one but only because Bush handed it to him. ............................alley >:( |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Melissa on Oct 1st, 2004, 12:50pm Ok, I'm gonna give comments about each candidate. #1. I was upset with Pres. Bush that he didn't speak more indepth about why it is Iraq is in so much chaos right now at this time. I also did not think he faired well due to all of his pausing. He acted like he was clueless or felt like it was not worth discussing certain issues. #2. I was upset that Senator Kerry did not elaborate on HOW he was going to "fix" things, but instead kept saying how he "has a plan". Plans are fine and dandy but I like to know how they will be executed. Fancy words do not impress me, but a persons past judgement does. I look forward to the next debate. :)mel |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by TomM on Oct 1st, 2004, 12:54pm I watched the whole dam thing. Should have washed the tires on the lawn mower, like I planned. :P TomM |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by don on Oct 1st, 2004, 1:02pm Quote:
Because he doesn't know it. Quote:
Because it is very fluid plan. Could change at any moment. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by floridian on Oct 1st, 2004, 1:05pm on 10/01/04 at 12:34:34, alleyoop wrote:
You fail the global test is when you try to lead the world to invade a country for 1) possessing WMDs and 2) supporting Al Qaeda's attack on America when A) there are no weapons of mass destruction and B) the only world leader today that thinks that Saddam helped Al Qaeda is Dick Cheney. Quote:
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Title: Re: Debates Post by don on Oct 1st, 2004, 1:09pm Poland is our ally. Shit....if we can now recruit France we can take over the world. We're fucked. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by ArCane on Oct 1st, 2004, 1:11pm on 10/01/04 at 13:09:45, don wrote:
ROFLMAO!! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by floridian on Oct 1st, 2004, 1:23pm on 10/01/04 at 13:09:45, don wrote:
Costa Rica just asked to have their name taken off the list of the coalition of the willing; they have no armed forces, never agreed to be part of it, and never provided any other resources. http://tinyurl.com/46ll8 There are also concerns that Tuvalu and Rota Rua may pull out of the coalition. The president dispatched an emergency diplomatic mission to the two Pacific atolls in a bid to hold the coalition together. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by don on Oct 1st, 2004, 1:25pm Quote:
Just fucking great. Now who will provide the Polynisian desserts for post Iraqi War festivities. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by floridian on Oct 1st, 2004, 1:27pm on 10/01/04 at 13:25:19, don wrote:
Let's see ... coconuts? Check. Sweet Poi? Uh-oh! |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by don on Oct 1st, 2004, 1:30pm Maybe Kerry can run something up here on a swift boat. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Charlie on Oct 1st, 2004, 1:54pm You know, I'm glad I "saw" it while in chat. Easier on the glims. One of the "rules" should have been no TV. Even his supporters know Kerry is a gargoyle. ::) Good thing for us that there was no TV in 1860. Leno should be good tonight. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by notseinfeld on Oct 1st, 2004, 2:01pm If you pull the string on the Ann Coulter action figure one of the lines says " What's wrong with going to war for oil. We need oil. How do those Hollywood liberals think their jets get fueled and cocaine delivered to them? " The less the international community approves of our actions the better off we are. Actually, you can use the Euroweenie approval like a barometer: if they're in agreement we're likely on the wrong track. The UN is DECIDEDLY an anti-american institution and even the most labotomized of liberals can see this manifested in votes and global wealth distribution proposals by these communists. Neither old party, Republican or Democrat, have a clue about what's right or wrong: only how to attain and maintain power. In the words of young girls far smarter than me: It's like, uh, soooooo time for a change. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Charlie on Oct 1st, 2004, 2:08pm I'm still gonna try folks. I really am. :o Sweetness and light Charlie. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Jeepgun on Oct 1st, 2004, 2:28pm I agree. Why, oh why can't there be a solid Libertarian candidate? Or at least Nader or Perot? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by don on Oct 1st, 2004, 2:30pm Quote:
ROFLMMFAO We dont need their approval. Just the manpower and Euros. How many Euros would it take to buy an Abrams Tank? |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by BarbaraD on Oct 1st, 2004, 2:44pm Good grief!!!! I wonder if Nixon and Kennedy even had a clue what they were starting when they started those debates back in 1960 (ok so I'm OLD enough to remember THEM!) Loved John's accent and Tricky Dick's beady eyes..... some things just don't change much...... Guess that's why kids should study history.... Some things just repeat themselves. Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by floridian on Oct 1st, 2004, 3:09pm on 10/01/04 at 14:30:39, don wrote:
Amazingly, I agree with Don. We don't need their approval, but we might need their help. We are close to the limit of what we can do without a draft, runaway debt, and inflation. There may not be any nation stronger than the US, but that doesn't mean the US is omnipotent. Even with Johnny. Morgan Stanley agrees - the American currency is stretched mighty thin, and the Chinese and Japanese are the only ones keeping us afloat. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Ree on Oct 1st, 2004, 3:50pm All Bush has on Kerry is his flip floping... and that is it... today it was the rage on all the talk shows... He said it 5 times last night. Well with all of the other things going on in the world...changing ones mind on a the matter of war... especially as a Viet Nam vet, isn't at all what PreS BuSh tried to express... (5 timesLOL) He is all hat and no horse............. Mr Kerry showed how smart he is heck he was talkin stuff I didnt even know was going on... then over to President Bush... "I just dont think that a guy that says wrong war wrong time can serve our country", over and over like there was a skip in his record... I was undecided before... Now Im more sure but still hate Politics.............I think Kerry will get us the allies we need to be successful in Iraq... just my thoughts~~~ Ree who doesnt usually talk politics... and is thinking MR Kerry is very smart.......... |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Charlie on Oct 1st, 2004, 4:29pm Yup. Debates changed my vote: Charlie |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by don on Oct 1st, 2004, 6:08pm To bad martha is doing time. We could elect her and she could Feng Shua (sp) Iraq and annoy the terrorists into leaving. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Oct 1st, 2004, 6:12pm on 10/01/04 at 13:54:05, Charlie wrote:
uh..........make that a Frankenstein........ http://img23.exs.cx/img23/2751/johnkerry.gif ..........................alley ;;D |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by stevegeebe on Oct 1st, 2004, 6:37pm Must...resist...temptation...to...post...to...this...thread.... Steve G |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Oct 1st, 2004, 6:51pm on 10/01/04 at 18:37:54, stevegeebe wrote:
I know what you mean. It's like you can't eat just one potato chip........... ................which reminds me........What did the battery say to the potato chip? I'm Eveready if you're Fri-to-lay!............ok, ok, I'm sorry........(ducking now).............. ....................alley ;;D |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by thomas on Oct 1st, 2004, 7:08pm on 10/01/04 at 18:37:54, stevegeebe wrote:
I'll do it for ya, Steve. It doesn't matter who you vote for. If you vote for one of these two clowns, you're gonna get more of the same shit. That is an ever increasing size of the coporpate-political machine they are calling government these days. All it is good for is to take my hard earned money and give half to the democrat voters in the guise of social programs and half to the corporate repbulican voters in the form of tax exemptions. While the great unwashed mass of "undecideds" sit and actually try to make sense of the rhetoric that is being spewed by the media and the candidates. Actually thinking that one of these creeps cares about you is pathetic. Like lambs to the slaughter the voting masses will head out in November to insure that the great ONE PARTY system we have remains in tact. Just my 2cents. Feel free to flame me, but you'd better think about what I said first. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Jonny on Oct 1st, 2004, 7:24pm Great post, Thomas! ..................................jonny |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Charlie on Oct 1st, 2004, 7:26pm Comedian Lewis Black does some funny stuff about everything in his HBO show. One of them, roughly, is that our government tells us that all will be well if we have duct tape on hand for chemical attack. From the top down, the voters should take the whole bunch out for an afternoon of electroshock just to get them back on track. Good idea but do it regularly Charlie |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Tiannia on Oct 1st, 2004, 7:27pm It was just sad to watch Bush stare aimlessly while Kerry was talking and look more and more like Opie each time he spoke. And with all the stumbling over his words and all, I felt like I was watching Howdie Doodie come back to life. Very true Thomas, I hate politics with a passions and truely believe that politics and religion are the two taboo subjects at work, but I have a boss that is a RUSH finatic (sp?) and that is all I listen too all day. This man has a 30 inch colored pic of Reagan in his office. But all he would say is that Kerry won last night because his hair looked good. Fairly sad. -Tia |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Simon on Oct 1st, 2004, 7:54pm God how frightening, and how dull in equal measure... Saw about 40 minutes and gave up. I was always told that American politics was about passion (even if it was feigned). From where I sat neither participant managed eough passion to stir a rice pudding. Perhaps they should have got our friend Osama in on a satellite link to liven things up. Thinking about it al-Qaeda needn't bother with any more attacks - all they need to do is stand for election against these two and they could take over legally. A sound bite is fine, but when all you say is sound bites (most of which were sound-swallows in GWB's case) it gets mind-bogglingly dull. My conclusions from this evening are that Kerry doesn't really like Bush, and that Bush doesn't think much of logic or oratory. Please, please, please take Blair and have him, he needs a holiday to recuperate. A bemused sheep, Dolly |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Jonny on Oct 1st, 2004, 8:04pm http://www.joanandstevesjubilantukjournal.co.uk/images/labourposter4a.jpg LMAO......................................jonny |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Melissa on Oct 1st, 2004, 8:08pm on 10/01/04 at 19:54:20, Simon wrote:
OK! ;;D He'd be a breath of fresh air compared to the dupas (for all that don't know Polish, that means butts) we have running right now. ::) :P p.s. LMAO Jonny! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by floridian on Oct 1st, 2004, 8:19pm on 10/01/04 at 18:51:09, alleyoop wrote:
Was it you that made disparaging comments about my bartending dog/roof joke? Bah! |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Oct 1st, 2004, 8:30pm on 10/01/04 at 20:19:26, floridian wrote:
What string was that? Probably was Floridian! Damn if I can remember.........which reminds me........... Two fish swimming along together run into a concrete wall. One fish turns to the other and says, "DAM!" .......................alley ;;D |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by john_d on Oct 1st, 2004, 8:38pm the debate bored me to tears *yawn*....they could not possibly say anything but what we want to hear and they can't possibly do anything like they say. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Sean_C on Oct 1st, 2004, 8:56pm The unfortunate part of all of this is that they are the wolves and we are the lambs. Trusting one could prove fatal ;;D Nice post Thomas Sean..................... |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by PittsburghJoe on Oct 1st, 2004, 9:27pm Definitely a nice post, Thomas, and I do agree. What I really wanted to see was Kerry pointing out ole Georgie's flip-flops: He was against the 9/11 Commission before he was for it (and why did we spend more money investigating the Lewinsky scandal than investigating 9/11?). He was against creating the Homeland Security Department (how Orwellian THAT sounds!) before he was for it. He was against steel tariffs before he was for them, but then he was against them again. I could go on, but I don't wanna get off on a rant here, since you guys pretty much know where I stand. To me, it's ALL about the Supreme Court appointments that are upcoming, and this country can't afford any more Scalia's. Joe |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Oct 1st, 2004, 9:36pm Good post Thomas! You got one liberal to stay liberal, one undecided to stay undecided and Jonny to stay Jonny! Vote Libertarian..................... .....................................alley ;;D |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Charlie on Oct 1st, 2004, 9:36pm I know how you feel Simon. We feel the same. The only thing people get passionate here is distracting domestic issues that Washington has no business in legislating. They use this crap to win elections. American politics is all about winning; little else. Howard Dean and John McCain would have made a more interesting debate. Passion anyway. Ah me.. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by PittsburghJoe on Oct 2nd, 2004, 3:25am Wow, when I saw Georgie writing stuff down during the debates last night, I wondered what it was. Apprently somebody found his notes: http://www.thetalentshow.org/images/bush_rules_1.jpg ;;D Joe |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Oct 2nd, 2004, 4:38am LMAO!!! Good one Joe!!!!! [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] ..............................alley [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: MasterDebaters Post by rumplestiltskin on Oct 2nd, 2004, 6:42am They will buy anyone that can help them and kill anyone that gets in their way. As will their bosses...thats why they sweat. Wage Peace den |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Bob P on Oct 2nd, 2004, 8:32am Hey Bob. Was at my little brothers wedding yesterday or I would have shared my wisdom with you sooner. Kerry looked and sounded better than Dubya. Dubya needs to drop the flip flop thing, we all know how Kerry is and it's getting old hearing it. Dubya should have answered the questions rather than answering Kerry. Nuclear is an accepted pronunciation in the dictionary now. Choked when Kerry said he would honor the troops. He has a track record that states differently. Glad Kerry let the insurgents know that if he is elected he will draw down the troops in 6 months. He should tell them what time and flight the guys will be leaving on. Who won? They both had very little to say. Did it change my vote? Nope! I have a very personal axe to grind with Kerry. In my book he is a traitor and always will be. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by kimh on Oct 2nd, 2004, 9:02am Debates were predictable. Did it change my vote? Nope. Lewis Black HBO = HILARIOUS ;;D If you guys get a chance, check it out ;;D ;;D ;;D |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by eddie on Oct 2nd, 2004, 10:11am Bin ladden was too at one point {FRIEND} saddam was too at one point {FRIEND} muslem want all of us dead{ thats thier religous belief} the radical muslem 3000 people remember 9/11/01 and all politicians are like lawers they suck but who do you trust to keep our asses safe. Iraq is an ant bed kick it see the ants run out. who knows i know i dont? im just thankful for living in USA |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Oct 2nd, 2004, 2:23pm I believe that ever since The League of Women Voters pulled its sponsorship, the presidetial debates have been little more than a glorified bipartisan press conference. The current sponsor of the debates is The Commission on Presidetial Debates. According to George Farah, "The Commission on Presidential Debates, although it claims to be a nonpartisan organization, was created by the Republican and Democratic parties for the Republican and Democratic parties. By design, it was established to submit and conceal the wishes and demands of the Democratic/Republican nominees." The commision is in fact a private corporation, founded by the then chairmen of the Republican and Democratic national parties. They're still running the show. See: http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/printer_13901.shtml The Commission on Presidential Debates has written up "secret contracts" negotiated between the candidates. These contracts dictate every conceivable detail from the height of the podiums to who will participate, including veto power over any third party candidates participation (sorry Rock_Lobster, this means Jeff Costa of the Crustacean Liberation Party too). ;;D To me, it's a complete OUTRAGE they even call these excanges debates! "They get a question from a moderator that they selected and they can predict...they've memorized the response to. They issue a memorized sound bite which fits a very nice perfect 90-second response slot that has been stipulated in the contract." Their opponent can't challenge their answer because they're prohibited by contract. The moderator can't challenge because he can't ask follow-up questions. And don't think this next week's town hall debate will be any different. Says Farah about a previous one, "They had every member in the town hall audience write their questions on index cards and give them to Jim Lehrer. He would point to the individual and have him ask the question. The consequence, of course, was no matter how good a person Jim Lehrer is, he's still asking all the questions. The audience members are just there as props. He's still picking the ones to be asked. So it shows the sanitization of the town hall format, showed the evolution of how the candidates are increasingly controlling whatever they can control to avoid mistakes." DEBATE: Webster defined it as a contentious exchange between two parties. How in hell can you have a contentious exchange when the candidates can't even respond to each other? With the huge viewing audiences these debates draw, there's good argument that they are a decisive factor in these elections. If you're still straddling the fence this election and looking to the debates to make up your mind, what you'll really be looking for is who does their homework best and can best memorize their lines. OK, I know it's coming, so flame away! ..............................alley |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by BobG on Oct 2nd, 2004, 4:04pm You'll get no flames from me. I think you're a hundred percent correct. These are not debates, they're nothing more than hour long political commericals. We'll get to see more next Friday (?). I'm sure Bush's handlers will get him to look a little more presidential. Better make up, stand up straight, smile a little and act like he's got a set. Just have to wait and see. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by john_d on Oct 2nd, 2004, 5:46pm on the money, alley! I could not agree more. |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Charlie on Oct 2nd, 2004, 8:26pm Our debates are not debates. All they do here is reinforce our choice of which candidate do we dislike or hate the most and which batch of greedy bastards get contracts to make weapons. Wonderful. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Sean_C on Oct 2nd, 2004, 8:37pm That was cute Joe ;;D kinda scares me though [smiley=laugh.gif] Sean................... |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by notseinfeld on Oct 6th, 2004, 8:31pm AlleyOop on the money with regard to the stifling and snuffing out of the Libertarian (and all other 3rd) party in the, ahem, national debates. Doesn't anyone wonder WHY these folks are excluded? Seems pretty clear that some people do want the American public to hear what they have to say. I'd also like to add that the Libertarian party does not take 'matching funds' even though they're qualified from the treasury because it's taxpayer money. The problem with being 'The Party of Principle' is that you actually have principles and clearly there's no place for that in modern politics. I'm am heartened to see that there are other clusterheads here who do value individual responsibility and Constitutionally limited government as I'm usually alone fighting 20 or 30 years of statist indoctrination with the mush-mind public. For anyone interested, there is an actual platform, with actual ideas posted here: www.lp.org/issues I don't expect anyone will agree with all of them but I challenge you to find any other itemized political platform with which you agree more. Next time I'll post with <kip2---sorry if I seem curt. nots |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by eyes_afire on Oct 6th, 2004, 9:28pm Here's an assist: http://www.lp.org/ Also: http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm And, of course, here are the candidates: http://www.politics1.com/p2004.htm ---Steve |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Oct 6th, 2004, 9:55pm Thanks nots and Steve. I couldn't agree more. Vote Libertarian! ...........................alley |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Melissa on Oct 6th, 2004, 10:09pm Well, I took their little quiz to see where I stand in the political spectrum, and it said I am a Centrist. Well that helps alot.... [smiley=laugh.gif] ;) |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Charlie on Oct 6th, 2004, 11:34pm The Libertarians are appealing in so many ways. It looks in many ways like the Republicans of old. I'm interested in universal health care though. The Libertarians would never go for it. It's a throw out the baby with the bathwater thing. It's a little old fashioned is all and too arbitrary. That they stay out of our bedrooms and religion is nice. The biggest problem is that a vote for them is a vote for that horror: Bush Charlie |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Oct 7th, 2004, 11:37am on 10/06/04 at 23:34:20, Charlie wrote:
I don't have any polls to fall back on but I would think it would be the other way around Charlie. I would think the Libertarian party would draw more conservatives than liberals. FWIW........................ ..........................alley |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by thomas on Oct 7th, 2004, 11:39am on 10/07/04 at 11:37:15, alleyoop wrote:
Yes you are right, Charlie, in his heart is pretty damn conservative, he is just having a hard time accepting it. ;) |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Jeepgun on Oct 7th, 2004, 3:29pm <---Conservative Centrist? LOL |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by JJA on Oct 7th, 2004, 4:01pm on 10/06/04 at 23:34:20, Charlie wrote:
Not neccesarily Charlie. I'm a registered Libertarian voting for Kerry. Unlike a lot of Libertarians I fell off the liberal left instead of the conservative right. I want to have social freedom and don't want to pay taxes to ban gay marriage, attack Iraq, stop someone from smoking a joint or support the prison industry... Very un-Bush-like. Jesse |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by alleyoop on Oct 8th, 2004, 11:39pm I'd have to call it a draw at this point, the debates that is, not the vote. If the election were held this coming Tuesday, I'd have to give it to Bush by a slight margin. [smiley=twocents.gif]...............alley |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Charlie on Oct 9th, 2004, 1:29am I confess that I have to catch up with the debate last night. I saw only a few minutes on CSPAN awhile ago. The debates don't affect Bush haters like me though. We'd vote for Martha Stewart to dump Bush. :o Charlie |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Jimmy_B on Oct 9th, 2004, 12:23pm on 10/02/04 at 14:23:36, alleyoop wrote:
No flames from here, either. It even looks like one of the candidates couldn't even remember his lines. According to www.electoral-vote.com " www.salon.com reports that George Bush had a radio receiver taped to his back during the first debate so he could receive messages via a tiny hearing-aid-like device in his ear. They back this up with a photo." (below) ..."the Commission on Presidential Debates has verified that one of the rules of engagement the Bush campaign insisted on was no camera shots of the candidates from behind (which one of the pool cameras did anyway). " http://www.electoral-vote2.com/images/bulge.jpg |
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Title: Re: Debates Post by Charlie on Oct 9th, 2004, 1:23pm Makes one think twice but I have my doubts. I really don't think they'd take that kind of chance. There's just too much at stake and too many chances for smart media guys and internet geeks to nail the idiot. I can dream though....... ::) Charlie |
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