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Title: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by writer on Sep 6th, 2004, 2:54pm I'm sure we all agree on one thing, if not on many others, and that is the absolute certainty that if we take an alcoholic drink of any kind, and we are in cycle, we will be attacked by the Beast fairly soon. Does anyone know the chemical/physiological action of alcohol on the body/brain? The exact part of the brain that is affected, and how? Why is it, do you think, that one drink of alcohol can set off such a reaction, when a sufferer is in cycle? I suspect there may be aan etiology clue or two here if we could understand the mechanism that operates--just asking. - Writer |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Redd715 on Sep 6th, 2004, 3:05pm Not ALL clusterheads have alcohol as a trigger. Many do yes, but not all. There-in lays the rub. If it was a 100% occurance then I'm sure there would be more reliable data on this. I'm sure floridian will be able to get you some information on this. However, since it's NOT a 100% thing, I'm not sure how reliable it is as a tool, even if the mechanism were known as to why it effects some CH'ers and not others. (edit for spelling) |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by kissmyglass on Sep 6th, 2004, 3:08pm aahhhh its good to be chronic |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Redd715 on Sep 6th, 2004, 3:17pm on 09/06/04 at 15:08:34, kissmyglass wrote:
You said it!!!! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Charlie on Sep 6th, 2004, 3:21pm I know this affects most of us but my real drinking days were back in the 70s and CH was never a result. Maybe it was the anti-seizure drugs or something. Damn CH never plays by the rules. >:( Charlie |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Redd715 on Sep 6th, 2004, 3:24pm on 09/06/04 at 15:21:10, Charlie wrote:
Who said their were rules....our beast makes the rules, and just when we think we've learned them all the fucker changes them on us.... |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by vig on Sep 6th, 2004, 3:28pm Look at nitroglycerine while you're at it. |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Jonny on Sep 6th, 2004, 3:57pm Nearly three decades chronic (Have no idea what I am now, episodic I guess) and alcohol has never caused a CH for me. Now that this bastard has flipped me from chronic to episodic he will probably revoke the alcohol thing on my ass......BASTARD!!!! ..................................jonny |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Redd715 on Sep 6th, 2004, 4:31pm on 09/06/04 at 15:57:39, Jonny wrote:
I can just hear that accent of yours Jonny! [smiley=laugh.gif] And it better not revolk it on ya. I hoped you'd come out this way sometime and you can tour the local Brewery with me. ;;D http://www.pointbeer.com/brews.php |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Svenn on Sep 6th, 2004, 4:41pm Nothing like a glass of cognac or chivas regal after a battle with the beast. "Just wondering why i never sobering up ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D" Svenn |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by floridian on Sep 6th, 2004, 9:30pm Vig is right - both nitroglycerin and alcohol increase the production of nitric oxide. Nitric is a powerful relaxor of the smooth muscle in the blood vessels - they relax and expand, possibly putting pressure on the trigeminal nerve. Nitric oxide also triggers release of CGRP - a small protein-like molecule that is involved in pain transmission. CGRP increases the effects of substance P, the neurotransmitter responsible for the burning sensation of hot pepper. Several researchers and pharmaceutical companies are looking into meds that block CGRP release - they seem to help with migraines and clusters. Nitric oxide, CGRP and substance P are essential, but we have too much of them at one time in one place. |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Jonny on Sep 6th, 2004, 9:59pm Dont think I ever said this before, but im sure glad your here Flo dude. Even if I dont know what the hell your talking about half the time ;;D ...............................................jonny |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Jeepgun on Sep 6th, 2004, 10:35pm Alcohol has never spawned a CH for me, ever. Even when in cycle. (Wine kicks my ass the next morning though, with MONSTER hangovers.... Ugh...) Glad I don't drink much anymore... [smiley=laugh.gif] -Frank |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by IndianaJohn on Sep 6th, 2004, 10:51pm One sip off of one beer (or any alcoholic beverage), when I'm in cycle will give me a kip 10 everytime. Makes my tolerance real low, so I'm a cheap drunk when I'm out of cycle[smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by cootie on Sep 6th, 2004, 11:23pm Alchohol kicks Brad's head in the ass HARDER FASTER.......he found that out last cycle. A beer to relax and go to bed and not get hit........yeah rite.....it was always a long nite when he tried that theory. Looser Booser wife Pam |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Mac on Sep 7th, 2004, 12:06am Never had alcohol trigger a Ch. Actually I've never found a trigger. |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by Giovanni on Sep 7th, 2004, 3:28am Alcohol has always been my test for determining if I'm out of cycle. Fix myself an absolute martini and if I make it through without the headache--I'm out of cycle. :P |
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Title: Re: Beverage Alcohol - a Clue? Post by floridian on Sep 7th, 2004, 10:34am on 09/06/04 at 21:59:04, Jonny wrote:
Good to hear - I just hope your not going soft on us ... Nah, nothing to worry about. PS - Happy Birthday, Jonny!! |
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