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Title: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Superpain on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:31pm I went on vacation to Mexico this weekend with my wife and inlaws. Although the vacation was OK, conversation eventually turned to cluster headaches. When my motherinlaw first heard of my HA's she printed off a couple pages of the usual complete bullshit about why we have headaches...ie; food, etc... I in turn printed her out about 60 pages of material I'd gathered from this site. So I thought that was it. I'd educated her and she wouldn't come at me with her hippy dippy bullshit anymore. ::) Well... Now I know... Cluster headaches are caused by STRESS! :o I said "NO, THEY ARE NOT CAUSED BY STRESS..." And continued to cite reason upon reason to disprove their stress theory. Just a highlight... The reason we get hit after going to sleep is that "That's when the sub conscious takes over and we no longer have control over our thoughts, and whatever it is stressing us causes us to have a headache." AND Their answer to Goadsby's research about the hypothalamus, and why it can't be easily fixed because of the location of the hypothalamus... "Oh, well that can be fixed by "skull platelet realignment/adjustment""... Plus the whole basket full of bio feedback bullshit... What the fuck??? >:( God I fuckin hate hippies! Please God, give me the power to transfer a cluster to someone with a touch, and I promise I'll only use it on stupid people and hippies, and the occasional doctor who refuse to listen. It just befuckingfuddles me how some people are so closed minded and think that they have all the answers for something that they have never experienced and don't know shit about! And you CANNOT CHANGE THEIR MIND! They just don't listen.... [smiley=huh.gif] Die you homeopathic, no new trick, old dog, pot smokin, wheat and dairy free, organic tree huggin, non cluster having, know it all, full of shit, pain free hippy ass mutherfuckers!!!! >:( And on top of that... Their my INLAWS!!!! I swear, they better watch their fuckin mouths with that shit when I go back into cycle! [smiley=furious.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Superpain on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:34pm Note; Clusterhead hippies are excluded. At least you know what it's like, and you know it's not "stress"... And I don't have to eat your organic hippy food at Thanksgiving and Christmas. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by thomas on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:35pm You will find lots of those types of people buried in my back yard. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Jeepgun on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:36pm Right on, Supapain! I have a Japanese friend who insists on combing the Japanese CH sites and sending me stuff. "It's because you smoke and drink coffee." "It's stress." "It's because you crashed and got in fistfights and had parents that beat the shit out of you all the time -- it's trauma-related, man!" [smiley=mad.gif] [smiley=bigguns.gif] The Beatles were wrong: Happiness isn't a warm gun; it's a BELT-FED WEAPON!! |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by pubgirl on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:36pm Chris Laughed but felt sorry for you at the same time :( Beautifully put! I just cannt find the words when people do this as I get so angry. I can't explain or be reasonable. My mind just finds swear words! I just want to say "Fucking talk the talk when you've walked the walk" but relatives wouldn't like that Wendy |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Superpain on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:47pm I should've known when my "aunt in-law" said "I get cluster migraines too!"... ::) My mother in law get's migraines.... I said, "So you still get them?" She answered "yes"... [smiley=huh.gif] Is it just me or is that my case in point!? Well if you know sooo much about headaches with all of your hippy healing powers why the fuck do you still have migraines!!!? I wouldn't give my worst enemy a cluster, but I'd do anything short of selling my soul to give them about 10 minutes each. Just for the simple satisfaction asking them what they think about the subject now. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by IndianaJohn on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:48pm My God Chris, what you wrote is sooo fucking true! I don't talk to ANYBODY about this shit except my wife, all of you and my doc just for that reason. Even my own mother is so uneducatable about this. She just won't fucking listen. And then you get the condencending not a very nice person out there that say "oh, it's just a headache". ARGHHH! Let me put a screwdriver in your eye you fucking dumbass and tell me that's just a fucking headache. The attitude that people have about this, if they're even informed at all, is one of the most infuriating things about having CH.. Especially when you get that kind of bullshit from a so called "medical professional". OK, I'm done now, I think. thanks, that felt good, John |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by UN_SOLVED on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:53pm You'll meet people like this from time to time. It never fails. The best thing to do is to let it go in one ear and out the other. We already have enough to deal with ... don't let the uneducated (about CH) add to the problems and stress.' Unsolved |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Jeepgun on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:54pm MYARRRRRRRGH!!!!! FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK 'EM ALL!!!!! [smiley=bash.gif] [smiley=mad.gif] [smiley=argue.gif] [smiley=hewey.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by synergy2120 on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:57pm MArcs the same - he wont bother trying to explain it to people now. His family try to understand but his sis (who does help us out a lot in other ways) is constantly going on about herbal teas and that chillin out will stop the headaches. My family were like this too (some still are) but at christmas marc was having a bad one when i was 8 months pregnant and i panicked and rang my dad. It was 6:30am and they drove all the way down here and witnessed it for themself. They have been very supportive ever since. Most people wont understand until either they experience themselfs or see it a full on attack - then they realise that its no fuckin' migrane! Im going to stop now cos i have a lot of anger on this part of CH and i would go on forever venting out how pissed off i am with non-understanding bastards. |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by floridian on Aug 10th, 2004, 3:01pm So, Wendy, what was your reaction to the Ab-Fab episode where they went to an Ashram?? Laughed til it hurt. |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by pubgirl on Aug 10th, 2004, 3:14pm Jonathan Totally embarassed to admit I haven't seen that episode, thought I had seen all of them! Particularly embarassing as I worked at the store in London that was often used as the filming location at the time and vaguely knew the person Edina is based on as she was at one time our PR person (God help us!, she was sacked) Do tell, what did Edina and Patsy do? Wendy |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by floridian on Aug 10th, 2004, 3:20pm I've only seen a few, but that one was hilarious. I think Eddie routinely snuck out of the commune for drinks and shopping. "A lonely Edina joins a new-age commune while Patsy is in New York and Saffy is at university. Mother stays at home and becomes addicted to a shopping channel (which Josie Lawrence presents). But Edina gets bored trying to find her inner self and hires a helicopter to track down Patsy, who is also fed up after losing out in a bid to win the wealthy but ailing publisher Mitchell (Max Brant). Also featured a frightening look forward to 25 years' time. " http://www.thecustard.tv/shows/absolutelyfabulous.html Season 3, episode 6. - It was supposed to be the final episode. |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by don on Aug 10th, 2004, 3:21pm Quote:
ROFLMMFAO ! Spike their tofu! |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by brain_cramps on Aug 10th, 2004, 3:31pm on 08/10/04 at 14:47:37, Superpain wrote:
LMMFAO!!! I like the way ya think! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Rock_Lobster on Aug 10th, 2004, 5:48pm Hippies smell bad. |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by k9n8 on Aug 10th, 2004, 5:57pm Ah that was funny. I told someone to slowly pull about an hours worth of string out of your eyeball, and then pick yourself up and go to work so you dont get fired. Then about halfway through work, in front of everyone, do it again. But dont leave work........wait until you get off, then do it again on the way home. Pullover, no fair driving, then go home, colapse, and do it all again the next day. Now, you were saying?! Thats what I thought. |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Jeepgun on Aug 10th, 2004, 6:05pm I use the hammer analogy. That usually gets the point across. (But not to the wife of one of my coworkers who has migraines, and insists that they are "cluster migraines." ) Ugh... It's like talking to a post. I just smile at her and nod, and when she walks away, I think, "Shut up, you idiot!" |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by psycofemale0403 on Aug 10th, 2004, 6:27pm I think as soon as you get married, and the in laws, can legally call you daughter/son in law, they IMMEDIATELY know everything about you. My mother in law PISSES me off so bad. She keeps telling me "oh, maybe your birth controll is giving you headaches, I bet you need to go to the chicropractor, don't eat aged meat, don't lift your children... blahblahfreakinblah. And everytime I tell her I have a "headache" she says " Oh yea, me too" GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Would it be wrong to just smack her ..... just once???!!!! I feel your pain, Superpain ~ Lisa |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by BruceD on Aug 10th, 2004, 6:38pm on 08/10/04 at 14:35:29, thomas wrote:
You must have a huge backyard there Thomas ... Willie Street is showing no signs of a population decline. I wish stupid people would just keep it to themselves ... and stop reproducing. Later BruceD |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Aug 10th, 2004, 7:32pm Lisa - it would be wrong on so many levels to smack her, but it sure would make you feel good! Aw,what the hell - go for it!!!! Take pictures though, okay? ;;D I think it's something we all deal with. I spent 4 days of my vacation listening to me sister-in-law tell me about how wrong my diet is, that I smoke too much, drink too much coffee, and on, and on. I can tune people like that right out - it's not hard to do if you've ever raised teenagers - kinda the same thing! |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by don on Aug 10th, 2004, 8:26pm Quote:
Or just let it seep out the hole from the Quote:
I keep reading that rant and laugh harder AND Harder every time. Is there a way to save it on my computer. Its the best I've heard yet and I've heard a lot of em. LMMFAO |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Charlie on Aug 10th, 2004, 8:31pm Quote:
Yup. Copy that. Deliver us from alternative "medicine," homeopathy, and newager bullshit. Not gonna waste my time rearranging my furniture either or painting myself blue, beating trees with palm fronds while playing a recorder. Oh and Bruce and Thomas: My suggestion is to do what I do: Bury them standing up. Not praying to Gaia Charlie |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by don on Aug 10th, 2004, 8:41pm Quote:
There is still a little room in my secret storage freezer. Just gotta move the "wonder magnet" people a little back towards the "vibrating glasses" guy. |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by IndianaJohn on Aug 10th, 2004, 9:09pm I wish that I has a sign that said the followin:http://thm-br1r2.search.vip.scd.yahoo.com/image/171226393 |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Ueli on Aug 10th, 2004, 9:19pm These homeopathic, no new trick, old dog, pot smokin, wheat and dairy free, organic tree huggin, non cluster having, know it all, full of shit, pain free hippy ass mutherfuckers are so twisted, there is no need to bury them. You can just be screw them into the ground. ;;D Ueli [smiley=smokin.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by IndianaJohn on Aug 10th, 2004, 9:22pm I keep reading this thread over and over again, and I keep LMFAO! |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Superpain on Aug 10th, 2004, 9:37pm I just checked back in, and it is getting pretty good. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by purpleydog on Aug 10th, 2004, 9:46pm on 08/10/04 at 14:31:28, Superpain wrote:
FUCKENEH dude!! Quote:
FUCKENEH Ueli, ain't that the truth! Stupid fuckers! purpleydog |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by don on Aug 10th, 2004, 9:49pm Why bury em? Stick their bodies in the tomatoe plants. Organic compost. They'd like that. I'll pass on the salad thanks. |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Robert_C. on Aug 10th, 2004, 10:43pm Quote:
Just like the one at the office who said "Oh yeah, I had cluster headaches once, last year, it lasted for 5 weeks. But then I went to my Dentist and he fixed my teeth and my headaches were gone. [smiley=JAW_DROP.gif] Did you call your Dentist, Robert? [smiley=JAW_DROP.gif] I think you should go see your dentist!" [smiley=JAW_DROP.gif][smiley=JAW_DROP.gif][smiley=JAW_DROP.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb.gif] [smiley=bulb2.gif] [smiley=hammer.gif] I never told anybody else after that. [smiley=oops.gif] Robert |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Ree on Aug 10th, 2004, 11:32pm LOLOL Go easy on the Hippies... For WE know not what WE do..........LOL Ree an old hippy from the 70's |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Tim_Z on Aug 11th, 2004, 12:40am These people are everywhere and I seem to find more of them all the time. My wife's Avon lady was telling us one night how horrible her migraine headaches where and how it's the worst pain in the world. I tried to tell her about clusters and how they were way worse, the most painful headache known to man. She told me that it is impossible to have worse pain than a migraine, I just gave up. When I get hit at work ( they are very good to me I can go hide or run home for a little bit or whatever ) my boss will ask if I'm having a headache. Usually I answer yes. Then he'll say a bad one? I hate that word headache. I hate trying to explain to people what is gonig on with me and they just give you that blank look. Only if they knew. There have been many times when I wish I had super headache powers and could give them a taste of what we get. You guys know exactly what I'm talking about though. That is why this place is so great. Just a little vent, thanks for being here. Tim |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by lionsound on Aug 11th, 2004, 12:53am Slowly, painfully learning my lesson about people that just will never get it ...and think they do: parents, siblings, inlaws, the last doc I saw that didn't believe me. My inlaws moved into my neighborhood, less than a mile away, to be closer to us!!!!!! OOOOOOH aren't we lucky? I once told my mother-in-law off during a K10. Good thing my brain was frying or it never would have happened. That week did end quite fantastically with an ER demerol shot in the ass (for me, darn it) |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Callico_Kid on Aug 11th, 2004, 1:05am Just quote Bill Lingvold and say, "Here's YOUR sign!" (It is a sign that identifies stupid people for those of you who are uninitiated to his humor. I recommend him highly.) Fortunatly, I hve been blessed with my inlaws. They have only seen me get hit once, and that was a mild one of about K5. They have been very supportive since. Rather than try to tell me what to do about them they will occasionally find some REAL info on CH and pass it along to me. (It has usually been on here first, but I appreciate their concern and am grateful that they are looking for real answers.) |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Racer1_NC on Aug 11th, 2004, 1:30am Guess I am lucky.....I discuss nothing with my mother in law other than the weather and her income taxes. (I prepare them for her) Most friends and co-workers know I have "headaches" but only a precious few know what they really are and do to me. I sent one of my very good friends here to read about CH.....she told me the next day that she didn't see how I lived through it. For someone that has never had one, or seen me have one, she understands really well. Now for the dumb ones that make the "take a Motrin" comments..... [smiley=bigguns.gif] Bill |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Pinkfloyd on Aug 11th, 2004, 1:30am on 08/10/04 at 14:47:37, Superpain wrote:
Actually, this would only make matters worse. If you're going to infect someone with clusters to prove a point, might as well give them chronic clusters. If you only give them 10 minutes worth, it will prove their point that they can get rid of them easily and so can you. As for the platelet realignment, there used to be a guy (called himself a doctor) in the Pacific Northwest teaching a method of inserting latex balloons into the sinus cavity, inflating them with air to expand the skull to crack and properly align the platlets and cure clusters & migraines. This was probably 7 or 8 years ago and at that point he had only one patient that had died. And as for the term "cluster migraines", you really can't blame the people suffering from "them" for their diagnosis. There are still many doctors that use this term. So every time you educate one, the medical community will replace them 10 times over. Many people get migraines in a pattern where they get several in a row and then some time off. A cluster of migraines if you will. You'll never educate the general public without first educating the medical community first. Not that it isn't irritating and not that I haven't said all the same things you've all have said. I just gave up on relatives after about 20 years. Saves me a lot of stress which allowed me to cut down on my drinking which cut down my clusters..LOL PF |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Superpain on Aug 11th, 2004, 3:02am on 08/11/04 at 01:30:44, Pinkfloyd wrote:
Well, I did too at one point, but after finding this place I feel responsible to educate and inform people of this malady. I went 18 yrs with all the comments from "It's stress" to "food" to being "psychosomatic" (that one still comes from my Dad)... 18 yrs without treatment or ever knowing that there was anyone else that understands. I feel now that I have attained an expert knowledge level on cluster's and migraines, and if there's ever anything I don't know about it, I can find out quickly with the resources I've accumulated here. " like talking to a fence post" sums it up.... Fuck em. Like pinhead said "How dare you mention the word pain in my presence!"! |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Jeepgun on Aug 11th, 2004, 12:07pm Family: Can't live with 'em and it's illegal to run over them. :P |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by don on Aug 11th, 2004, 12:37pm Quote:
No but you may need to call yours shortly. |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by floridian on Aug 11th, 2004, 1:04pm on 08/11/04 at 01:30:44, Pinkfloyd wrote:
The osteopaths do have something like this called the endonasal technique - a balloon in the nose is supposed to realign the cartilage if someone has a deviated septum. It might be less traumatic than the standard procedure that my doc wanted to do to me (break the nose and reset it in the socket - a friend had the standard operation done, and he had two big shiners, and the whites of his eyes were bright red for a week.) Never heard of it as a cure for migraines, not sure what the endonasal technique does to the platelets. ;) |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by don on Aug 11th, 2004, 5:33pm Quote:
Unfortunately for him it was his only patient period! That would give him a mortality rate of 100%. The Kevorkian cure for clusterheadache. |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Superpain on Aug 11th, 2004, 5:39pm [smiley=laugh.gif] I hope Kevorkian doesn't read this... He might become the clusterhead doctor equivalent of an ambulance chasing lawyer! Got a K10!? I can help! :D "OK Doc! Just do it!" |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by don on Aug 11th, 2004, 5:43pm Last time I stuck a balloon up my nose I was up for 5 days! (I still crack up scrolling through and seeing the title of this thread LMAO) |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Cerberus on Aug 12th, 2004, 12:23am Disclaimer: This is a CH patient, misinformation, dismissal, failure to validate or other ignorant comments may result in and the patient is not responsible for: Bleeding, shortness of breath, distorted vision, sudden loss of hearing, nausea, vomiting, spastic colon, incontinance, erectile dysfunction, vaginal discharge, hair loss, loss of appetite, difficulty urinating due to enlargement of the prostate gland, genital swelling or irritation, lethargy, malaise, agitation, rash, renal failure, heart problems, loss of motor skills, memory loss, sore muscles and joints, tooth loss, soreness of the mouth and gums, hives, tremors, anxiety, sweating, and sudden instantaneous death... As with any treatment, if you are pregnant, nursing a baby or expect to become pregnant, talk to your physician, it is not known if this treatment is excreted in breast milk. Before driving or operating heavy machinery be sure how this treatment effects you. Idiocy is not for everyone and those who are hypersensitive to similar treatments should consult their physician and listen for the "pop" which is the normal sound made when someone pulls their head out of their ass for the first time. ;;D Ramon |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Superpain on Aug 12th, 2004, 3:24am [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Hippy idiots found the cause of CH!!! Post by Robert_C. on Aug 12th, 2004, 6:27am I just printed this thread, rolled it and smoked it.[smiley=smokin.gif] Best buzz I ever had. Nothing like a good 'Humor Joint'. [smiley=laugh.gif] Robert [smiley=biggrin.gif]Maybe I could sell this on e-bay. |
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