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(Message started by: Carl_D on Jul 30th, 2004, 6:35am)

Title: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Carl_D on Jul 30th, 2004, 6:35am
Some of you may know that I am writing a book which is a fictional account of a cluster sufferer. It has been on the backburner for quite awhile, due to some aggravating writers block (this will undoubtedly be the hardest book I ever write.)
The working title thus far has been "Snapped."

I left NashCon with a new thirst to get this book DONE! So, I have been writing and editing again (whew!) The book was almost done when an evil ex roomie sabotaged me and I lost 3/4s of my work. It made me want to give up and take a "Fukidol" geltab.

I was talking with my sis in law last night about the title. I'm not sure if it should be called "Snapped" or what. The other idea I threw at her was "In My Head" and she still liked Snapped better. However, in my throes of renting the sheets for the last few hours TRYING LIKE BLOODY HELL to accomplish just a few Zzz's, another title hit me in the noggin that has a deeper meaning, I think, to those of us who know the beast firsthand. So, I am taking a vote. What title do you like better?

"Snapped"

"In My Head"

or my other brainstorm,

"Beyond The Shadows"

Let me know.
Peace,
Carl D

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Magman on Jul 30th, 2004, 6:44am
IMHO....Depending on the cover artwork and/or typical 'back of the book' synopsis.....I think "Beyond The Shadows" would peak ones interest.

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Mark C on Jul 30th, 2004, 6:53am
Brother Carl...I must agree with Brother Dan.....again.. ;;D "Beyond the Shadows" sound kinda Steven Kingish.....and adds to the "evil" nature of the beast.

Good Luck Carl....lets us know how it goes,

PFDAN's
Mark

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Jeepgun on Jul 30th, 2004, 8:34am
I like, "Beyond The Shadows," too. Best wishes with it, Carl. You are so talented... I know you can get past this writer's block. "Wild Mind," and "Writing Down The Bones," by Natalie Goldberg, are the very best books I've ever read on the art and craft of writing. Good luck!

  Frank
[O|||||O]
   JEEP

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Big Dan on Jul 30th, 2004, 9:00am
"Awaking to the Nightmare"







-Big Freddy

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by jhammer on Jul 30th, 2004, 9:23am
"Beyond the Shadows" would be my pick.

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Jul 30th, 2004, 9:24am
How about "My Other Brainstorm" ???

I know it wasn't one of the actual choices in your post but it sure hit home with me when I read it.

Pat

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Jayne on Jul 30th, 2004, 10:14am
my vote would be for
"Beyond the shadows"   me likey

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by thomas on Jul 30th, 2004, 10:20am
Throw me in with the rest of the crazies.  "Beyond the Shadows"

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Jeepgun on Jul 30th, 2004, 10:23am
"Concertina Head."  ;;D 8)

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by charvey on Jul 30th, 2004, 10:30am
I like "Beyond the Shadows" as the title also, but somebody else has used that title for a book on alcoholism.  

Being only a reader and not a writer/publiser I wasn't sure if the title had to be unique.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0842355588/103-8907522-8478240?v=glance

I like the shadow refrence and here are a few ideas I offer up.
"From Shadows"
"It began with a Shadow"

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Carl_D on Jul 30th, 2004, 10:53am

on 07/30/04 at 10:30:14, charvey wrote:
I like "Beyond the Shadows" as the title also, but somebody else has used that title for a book on alcoholism.  

Being only a reader and not a writer/publiser I wasn't sure if the title had to be unique.


Ahhh. Easily remedied. There are many stories with similar names, so as not to confuse, I can use that title and just drop the S.

"Beyond The Shadow"

The reason I thought of it is, we all know what "shadowing" is, and we all know what that eventually leads to, and the beast that comes from it. I guess that's why it was kind of my fave, but wanted someone elses opinion on it.

Oh - this is me not SLEEPING!!! STILL!!!!!
ARRRRRRRGGGGHHHH
Insomnia sucks!

Peace,
Carl D

*edited to add - In my experience with copyrights, if a name is similar, there has to be a difference in consonants.

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Gator on Jul 30th, 2004, 11:01am
I like "Beyond the Shadows."  

I don't know about the name of the book thing, but I'd be willing to bet there are different books out there with the same titles.

You could just drop the s on shadows or I suppose if it came down to it, you could call it "The Beast Beyond the Shadows" or something like that.

Gator


Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Turts on Jul 30th, 2004, 11:02am
Throw down another strike on the "beyond the shadows" vote on my behalf!!

How about  "ohmygodthisshitfuckinhurtsmakeitstop"


Turts

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by farmboy on Jul 30th, 2004, 11:05am
Now dan i think has the right title.


"awakening to a nightmare"

Because i will always remember the horror of being awakened with a   ch.

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Gator on Jul 30th, 2004, 11:09am
Hey Carl!   Looks like you thought of the same thing I did or vice versa.

"Great minds think alike!"  

Either that or "Dirty minds run in the same ruts."

Either way, good luck Carl.  

Gator

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Carl_D on Jul 30th, 2004, 11:10am
Hmmm.

Things that make you go Hmmm.

That might be a good idea for the chapter of Wyatt's first full blown hit. The chapters aren't really titled yet (loosely.)

Whaddaya say Dan, can I use it?

Peace,
Carl D

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Samantha_Smith on Jul 30th, 2004, 11:12am
My pick is "In My Head" ...either that or "Cluster F@#k."

Congrats on your book!  Good luck!  Samantha

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by ozzy on Jul 30th, 2004, 12:52pm
Just a thought, I like the Shadows title, but...

Outside this community, CHrs never heard the term shadow.

Outside this community, Drs don't know what a shadow is.

just a thought


Ozzy

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Carl_D on Jul 30th, 2004, 1:01pm

on 07/30/04 at 12:52:30, ozzy wrote:
Just a thought, I like the Shadows title, but...

Outside this community, CHrs never heard the term shadow.

Outside this community, Drs don't know what a shadow is.

just a thought


Ozzy


How right you are my friend. That is why when Wyatt finds the CH community (which he finds online and learns quickly by befriending a longtime CH'er named Jakob) all of these things will be explained to him.
I'm writing this book for many purposes: hopefully to launch my authorship, entertain, AND educate the unknowing public. That has been my intent from the birth of the idea. I already asked DJ long ago if I can put "Clusterheadaches.com" in the book, though all names and posts will be fictional. I thought that would be a bonus if readers decided to look and see if there really is a website called that, and stumble upon us.
As Jonny said, if somebody picks up the book and decides to do a movie on it, it'll blow the doors open to the understanding of CH by the common public.
One can only hope that day will come.

Peace,
Carl D

I have to add: Before finding CH.com - I had been a ch sufferer for many years, but didn't know why they weren't going away this time. It wasn't until a friend did an online search and found this site for me that I learned what 'episodic' and 'chronic' was, or shadows. I could finally put a name to what was happening to me after 12 years of feeling like a freek all alone. This site educated me in ways that my Dr at the time couldn't. It also let me know - I am not alone.

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by kimh on Jul 30th, 2004, 1:01pm
How bowt Beyond the Shadows, Awakening to A Nightmare"  - why not both? :)

Good luck to ya***

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Little Deb on Jul 30th, 2004, 1:20pm
What Lies Within the Shadows

The Shadow of Hell

In the Shadows of Death

The Shadow Lurks...The Beast Devours

The Beast in My Head

Kill the Beast, Kill Myself

I like Beyond the Shadow


Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Charlie on Jul 30th, 2004, 5:08pm
I'm not going to suggest actual titles but I think it would be good to use "cluster (s)" in some form....not to define the content but as a hook.

Just an idea.

You cannot copyright a title the last I heard so not to worry.

Charlie

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Jonny on Jul 30th, 2004, 5:32pm
If its about a clusterheads life...."Why me"

Im sure we have all said/begged an answer for that.

.....................................jonny

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Melissa on Jul 30th, 2004, 5:46pm
Carl, I have always like the title "Snapped".  Here's a couple suggestoins...

Poker in the Eye (haha, would also make a good "adult" book title)
Scathing Nights
Lost in Nightmareland
The Beast Behind Closed Doors
Scared Sleepless
For Whom the Beast Stole
Claws of Demons
Clusters of Dread
Fear Taken Over



:)mel

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Carl_D on Jul 30th, 2004, 7:02pm

on 07/30/04 at 17:46:37, Melissa wrote:
For Whom the Beast Stole


Thanks Mel. Now I'm gonna be walking around singing Metallica "For whom the bell tolls" replacing it with "For Whom The Beast Stole."
Hmm, maybe I'll just rewrite the words to the whole song and cover it. Why not? We have "Beatallica" now.

Hugs,
Carl D

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Melissa on Jul 30th, 2004, 7:47pm

on 07/30/04 at 19:02:55, Carl_D wrote:
Thanks Mel. Now I'm gonna be walking around singing Metallica "For whom the bell tolls" replacing it with "For Whom The Beast Stole."
Hmm, maybe I'll just rewrite the words to the whole song and cover it. Why not? We have "Beatallica" now.

Hugs,
Carl D


Hey, I thought it was a pretty cool title. ;;D

:)mel

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Sean_C on Jul 30th, 2004, 8:11pm
I don't care what you call it, I'm buying it dude, so stop scratchin' your as$ and make it happen  [smiley=laugh.gif]

However I would like to see my favorite pic in there somewhere

http://www.achenet.org/museum/art/35.jpg

Sean.....................

I had to modify that because I just read your other post ( I love my pain pills );;D

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Jonny on Jul 30th, 2004, 8:20pm
"I need input"

Kinda gay ;;D

...................................jonny

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Carl_D on Jul 31st, 2004, 12:36am
LMMFAO Jonny!!!!
Why oh why didn't I word it "Taking a vote" instead of something that could be taken, um, er uh....

:-X

This is me shutting up before I further endanger my arse!!!  ;;D

Thanks guys! When that title came to me this morning (wait, what day IS it?) I knew that was it, just wanted some inpu...er, advice. Y'all rock, and gave me some good ideas on a couple of chapter titles. I think the chapter of Wyatt's first full-blown hit will be "Awakening to a nightmare." Thanks Big Dan

Peace,
Carl D

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Charlie on Jul 31st, 2004, 1:02am
You want people to pick up the book right?

One sure way:

"Captive Cheerleaders of Hitler's SS Death Squads."

Never fails.

Charlie

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by cootie on Jul 31st, 2004, 1:49am
Screw'd beyond the shadow......why me............snapped in my head..........my other brainstorm. Awakeining to a nitemare Pam  8)

Title: Re: I NEED INPUT!
Post by Sean_C on Jul 31st, 2004, 6:45pm
My wife says if you want her to at least pick it up and read the back cover it should be " LIVING WITH HIM and/or the BEAST WITHIN"

Sean



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