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Title: Another Apology
Post by ClusterChuck on Jul 24th, 2004, 9:42am
It has been implied that my "display" at the pool game was a disgrace to O.U.C.H. and should not have been tolerated.

This was just meant as a joke, and I did not mean to hurt or demean ANY ONE or the organization.  I was not there, at that time, as an O.U.C.H. official, but as a fun loving guy.  With all the talk about previous "moons" I thought it would be acceptable.

I guess I was wrong.

If I offended anyone, I am sincerely sorry.

Chuck

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Luke63 on Jul 24th, 2004, 10:13am
Shit....I loved it!!! Didn't bother me......let's just consider it an ongoig evening of entertainment after the comedians...!

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by john_d on Jul 24th, 2004, 10:28am
are you kidding?  I hope someone did not actually make you feel that way.  It's called having fun.


Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by alleyoop on Jul 24th, 2004, 10:48am
Now I really am having doubts about belonging to this organization. Chuck, I can not believe someone actually got their panties in a wad over you showing yours! How far will this nonsense go? Of course you were not acting in any official capacity! Of course you were just having fun and cutting up! This was an adult gathering set in a bar. If it offended anyone, well there was a door- it swung both ways! Come on people- LIGHTEN UP!!!

Chuck, you should not have to apologize for anything. Someone should apologize for waiting until everyone has gone home and then surreptitiously suggesting that your behavior was not appropriate!


Just a WEE BIT PISSED....................................

.................................................................alley >:(

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Becky on Jul 24th, 2004, 10:51am
((( Chuck )))

Don't you dare apologize, you were having fun and it showed. We as a group love to see others have fun and join in on it. We understand that we all need to let go now and again, so we can forget the pain. As for myself I thought it was great and took alot of guts to do.
Thank you for making me laugh,
Hugs
Bec

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by CarrieBethRN on Jul 24th, 2004, 10:52am
Hi Chuck,

Been following up on the various opinions going on over on OUCH where this was brought up.  I'd have to say, I really didn't feel like you were representing OUCH at that point in time, either.  The meetings were over, the banquet was over, and at that point..we were all having fun.  The fun, social part of the convention is what draws most people to come in the first place, IMHO.  Now if you had stood up and done that in the middle of the meetings on Saturday, that would have been an entirely different story!!!

I think you just manage to set an example to everyone around you for what an incredible sense of humor you have despite what you go through with CH and other pain.  People need to see that!!  (Maybe not in the form of your ass in a thong, but you know... LMAO!!!)

Just my 2 cents!

Carrie/Lizzie2 :)

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Cathi04 on Jul 24th, 2004, 10:57am
LOL...this is me, biting my tongue...
There is noone in this world like you Chuck...noone who has the nerve you do....and noone who has the heart....

Perhaps it was appropriate we all sit and enjoy some off-color jokes at the banquet......

Chuck, please, dont ever attend a board meeting attired like that....in fact, dont go out in daylight...nono...dont go out....
ahh, well....EUUUWWWW!!!!

:PCathi

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Luciano on Jul 24th, 2004, 11:04am
Chuck... it was really funny and of course it was ment as a joke.... could it be serious? [smiley=laugh.gif]
You really made all of us laughing and that's a great thing! You are such a big man..... you get hit so many times, you can't take trexx and you've even been able to make all of us laughing out... WE HAVE TO THANK YOU TO BE LIKE THAT!
I want all OUCH officials like you!
I can't belive someone feels offended by that.... com'on guys... WTF is wrong with ya???

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Mark C on Jul 24th, 2004, 11:46am
I just missed you wearing the pink boa.....and I loved the shoes!

No Problem.......

;)

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by brain_cramps on Jul 24th, 2004, 11:53am
I just wish there was some kind of disclaimer or warning on the link to the convention pics.      ;)

MY EYES!!!   :o   MY EYES!!!

grant        (blinded for life  8) )

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by suzy617 on Jul 24th, 2004, 12:20pm
Should not have been tolerated?  What kind of crap is that?  Next thing will be "no smoking or no drinking" allowed at the convention.  Shit, that really pisses me off.  If someone was offended, all they had to do was leave the room.
Chuck, you need not apologize for anything.  I thought it was hilarious and I have plenty of pics to remind me.  ;;D

Suzy
ps.  Dont dress like that too often though cause you make for one ugly woman.  ;;D

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by JDH on Jul 24th, 2004, 12:26pm
Chuck, a drag show was the perfect ending to a day that included among other things a wedding and a fire drill.
It was definitely one for the books  ;;D

Jim

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by kissmyglass on Jul 24th, 2004, 12:41pm
If you offended anybody...Fuck em

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Racer1_NC on Jul 24th, 2004, 1:00pm
The only thing I saw were people laughing so hard that tears formed in their eyes. I'd much rather see that than pained faces and tears from a CH any day.

No apology needed here Chuck, it was funny beyond words.........

Bill

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Jonny on Jul 24th, 2004, 1:30pm
Hey Chuck,

It was a chick right?.....Shes just a jealous bitch, wishing she had a body like yours....LMAO  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Dont sweat it bro, theres always one ass-hole that wants to ruin the fun.

.................................jonny

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Charlie on Jul 24th, 2004, 1:33pm
It was great Chuck and you gotta wonder if those upset about it may be a little be a little unsure of their sexual assignment.  

You're unique Chuck and don't apoligize for keeping us
on our polished toes.

Hilarious.

I'll be back as soon as I poke my eyes out.

Charlie


Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Luke63 on Jul 24th, 2004, 1:35pm

on 07/24/04 at 13:30:33, Jonny wrote:
...Shes just a jealous bitch,   
I know jonny...her nail polish never looked that good in her whole life [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Leesa on Jul 24th, 2004, 1:46pm
Chuck, my wonderful and dear friend you have NOTHING to apologize for hun. What you did was KICK ASS you made us laugh. I would much rather see tears of joy then I would see tears of pain any day!! For the person who said this to you..........FUCK THEM and the horse they rode in on!! >:( They can kiss my ass and Ill even mark the spot and give them direction too!!!! Now this kinda shit just makes me madder then hell!!  >:(To know that someone got all up tight once again over a good laugh!!
Chuck, you done good hun and dont take that shit to heart. We loved it even if we are blind. ;) I must say you looked DAMN good honey!!!  ;) Need a date?? HEHEHEHE  Hope whom ever said this gets what they deserve MY BAT upside the fucking head!!! Love ya bro!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
With much love, Leesa AKA: Bat Woman  ;;D

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Peppermint on Jul 24th, 2004, 2:02pm
CHUCK... I'd rather you apologize for putting up this godamned post.  What was this a Quaker gathering?? In a bar?

Don't pay attention to the '"bucco di culo" (was that plural) idea.  Haven't met too many that could carry off that 'tude and thong the way you did honey... and bOY did you.. LOL...

What Racer1 said was right on the money.  

Tolerated my ASS.  No pun intended.   ;;D

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Jeepgun on Jul 24th, 2004, 2:02pm
Man... Someone needs to SERIOUSLY get a life and grow a damn sense of humor. Chuck, I reject your apology and instead, I wish to thank you. Thank you for your humor, for your heart, for your fighting spirit in the face of all the pain and health problems that you've been dealing with. Thank you for showing that no matter what any of us deal with, there is a way to smile, to live, and to laugh. Love you, bro'.

Title: The Rest Of The Story, Part 1
Post by KingOfPain on Jul 24th, 2004, 2:32pm

The rest of the story.........
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on Jul 23rd, 2004, 1:23pm, BarbaraD wrote:Yeah Bob, I remember. You brought it to the board and everyone had their say and Ted had his say and it was voted on and that was that. I think there were two in opposition (it's been so long ago - my memory is not real good) and we were given the opportunity to say our say (on the board for everyone to see).  


Kind of hard to see when someone decided to remove all posts concerning this whole episode. Disgraceful!!!

Elaine, I understand why you are doing this, but it tears me up that you have been forced to this position.  Your viewpoint is needed, and it is disgusting that you are being forced out.

Chuck

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Quote: Disgraceful!!!  


Would that be anything like hanging your butt out at the OUCH convention?  
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PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.....

Let this please not turn into a thread of personal attacks.
 
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Not a personal attack Roxy.  I'm stating that if I were still Pres. I would be forced to question Chuck's behavior at an official OUCH function and seriously consider whether it is the type of behavior that the BoD should display.  Professional?

Much the same as when I questioned Ted's behavior when he threatened to "destroy" Elaine if she accepted a nomination to run for the BoD.  That censure and vote took place on a completely public board for all of the members to see.  It remained there for quite some time.

I still believe it was the appropriate thing for the leader of the organization to do at that time.

If I think people have ulterior motives, I question.  If I believe people have acted inappropriately, I challenge them.  If I think people are doing a good job, I praise and support them.  
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on Jul 23rd, 2004, 9:25pm, Bob_P wrote:Not a personal attack Roxy.  I'm stating that if I were still Pres. I would be forced to question Chuck's behavior at an official OUCH function and seriously consider whether it is the type of behavior that the BoD should display.  Professional?

Much the same as when I questioned Ted's behavior when he threatened to "destroy" Elaine if she accepted a nomination to run for the BoD.  That censure and vote took place on a completely public board for all of the members to see.  It remained there for quite some time.

I still believe it was the appropriate thing for the leader of the organization to do at that time.

If I think people have ulterior motives, I question.  If I believe people have acted inappropriately, I challenge them.  If I think people are doing a good job, I praise and support them.  


There is no way that Ted's actions and mine can be compared.  His involved official activities.  Mine involved fun times, yes at an O.U.C.H. convention, but at an UNOFFICIAL activity.  My act was not meant to insult, demean, or hurt ANYONE.  From what I saw, and have heard since, it was taken in just the way it was intended, PURE JOVIALITY!  Nothing more, nothing less.  If I offended anyone, I publicly apologize, here and now.

It was meant as a joke.  Lighten up.

Chuck  
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Title: The Rest Of The Story, Part 2
Post by KingOfPain on Jul 24th, 2004, 2:36pm

The rest of the story (cont.)..........
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 Re: I resign as BOD!
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As webmaster at the time, I used to download all of the posts.  I may have them on my hard drive or a backup but don't really want to spend the day looking for them.

What happened was that OUCH was accepting nominations for 3 BoD positions that were due to expire.  Elaine was nominated.  Ted, a sitting/continuing BoD member, contacted Elaine and told her that if she persued the nomination he would basically destroy her and make her regret it.  This communication was shared with me.  I took the issue of his behavior to the rest of the BoD.  I believe that while we were discussing what should be done, Ted posted an angry reply and resigned from the BoD.  End of story.

I certainly don't want to single out Chuck nor would I approach it the same as the Ted incident.  I think a simple reminder to all offcers/bod that they represent OCUH and a certain decorum is called for and would suffice.  I can't help thinking of the OUCH-UK people looking at the "convnetion pics" and what they think of them.  
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Re: I resign as BOD!

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on Jul 23rd, 2004, 9:25pm, Bob_P wrote:

Not a personal attack Roxy.  I'm stating that if I were still Pres. I would be forced to question Chuck's behavior at an official OUCH function and seriously consider whether it is the type of behavior that the BoD should display.  


From where I stand, it does appear to be personal since you are not the President and no more than a general member just as I am. If Chuck had appeared at the BOD meeting, the dinner, or at our guest's lectures dressed in this manner, you or anyone else for that matter would have a legitimate complaint. As a private citizen, own his own time, he has a right to conduct himself in a manner that HE sees fit. Was it in the best of taste? No. Was it funny? Absolutely.  

To address the resignation of Elaine.....from where I sit, if infact she was forced out, it is disgraceful. I can't imagine any qualified person that would want to subject themselves to the public abuse that the members of this BOD appear to receive from within, the general membership, and particularly from you Sir. The public floggings have to stop.

I can only hope that OUCH can pull itself out of the quagmire and move forward helping the sufferers of this hellish nightmare we call CH. I am committed to do all I can to help.

Bill

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This addition to this thread is not
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I am just sick & tired of one sided
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So be it.




Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Kevin_M on Jul 24th, 2004, 2:47pm
It seems attempts to toss morale overboard lately has been a priority over there.  Good thing you're here Chuck.  You represented many a fiiiiiine BOD positions.

Kevin M

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Charlie on Jul 24th, 2004, 2:58pm
Thanks but I still don't get this.

I'm kinda dumb though as sounds whoever this Ted is.

Charlie

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Elaine on Jul 24th, 2004, 2:59pm
I am keeping that picture in my pocket book. From now on when someone says the BOD doesn't have balls, I am going to pull that out and say look real close This one does LOL!

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by john_d on Jul 24th, 2004, 3:00pm
KOP after reading those messages, I can only say that they are very ugly, I hope we can count on professional behavior from the BOD when dealing with OUCH-related processes.  Professional means keeping the personal stuff out of it completely, don't even talk about personal things like night's out on the town or parties on board communication.   [smiley=twocents.gif] plus tips    

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Jonny on Jul 24th, 2004, 3:09pm
Me and my girl at one time held some kind of postion or another with OUCH, but I cant remember if it was at the same time as the Atlanta convention.....Cause we hung our asses out the seventh floor window in broad daylight for all to see and we laughed for a half hour.

Two moons over Atlanta ;;D

.....................................jonny

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Jayne on Jul 24th, 2004, 3:47pm
Yes Chuck, you bloody well need to apologize!!!!
You cost me a grudge match. I was catching up to Linda, and I was blinded by a cottage cheese moon. I for one will never forgive this outrage.
I do have to thank you for waxing before hand though. ;)

It seems to me that the person who got their thong in a twist about this  WASN"T EVEN THERE!!!!!!!!!

I am also a member of Ouch UK and I was not shocked. Upstaged, yes, but not shocked.

You keep on being you my dear because 99.99% of people here like you just the way you are.
Or do I need to get signatures to proove that to you ;;D

Ok, it's official it seems, clusterheads are no longer allowed to laugh or have fun. FTS.
(((((((((((((((((((CHUCK))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Jonny on Jul 24th, 2004, 3:53pm

on 07/24/04 at 15:47:02, Jayne wrote:
I am also a member of Ouch UK and I was not shocked. Upstaged, yes, but not shocked.


Oh yeah, I too am a member of OUCH/UK and a member of OUCH/Italia......Didnt bother me at all!  [smiley=guyflash.gif]

.........................................jonny

Edit:...For flash ;;D

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Big Dan on Jul 24th, 2004, 4:04pm

on 07/24/04 at 09:42:13, ClusterChuck wrote:
It has been implied that my "display" at the pool game was a disgrace to O.U.C.H. and should not have been tolerated.

Chuck





.... you have got to be fuckin' kidding me.


... I'm starting to get that 'Fuck OUCH conventions, let's have a Clusterheadache.com Convention instead' attitude...

For fucks sake, loosen you're got damned sphincters, people....





-Big Dan

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Linda_Howell on Jul 24th, 2004, 4:34pm

Quote:
You cost me a grudge match. I was catching up to Linda, and I was blinded by a cottage cheese moon. I for one will never forgive this outrage


uh Jaynie...I was there and saw the same thing you did Poppett.  Didn't seem to throw me off the game.  ;;D

Chuck,  I am going to speak as a member of the board as well as from a personal viewpoint.  Everyone at that convention knew when it was time to be professional, serious, and get down to work.....and when it was time to have fun and laugh.  I, too resent the implication that this was innappropriate.

 Folks, I know of NO-ONE    who more deserves to laugh, have fun and cut loose when he can, than Chuck.    And it seems by the concensus of this thread that we are in the majority in that opinion.    Linda    

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by BarbaraD on Jul 24th, 2004, 5:12pm
And besides... Chuck baby, you had the cutest ass at convention -- and TRUST ME -- I checked them ALL (welllll, Jayne made me the "official" bun tester)  - Oh please tell me you didn't mean the BREAD Jayne!!!!! :-[.

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Jeepgun on Jul 24th, 2004, 5:40pm
I dearly hope that all of this turmoil with OUCH and the BoD comes to an end pretty soon. After three days of this nonsense, I feel heartsick and fed up. There's just no way any progress in any direction is ever going to be made, at this rate. I'm just disgusted... My heart hurts...  
[smiley=huh.gif] >:( :'(

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Kevin_M on Jul 24th, 2004, 6:38pm
Well, if we look at it as pulling the boat in for some refurbishing and take off again soon with some holes patched and sails mended and rails polished (fence mending), we should be able to get on course again with a crew willing to paddle and the officers pointing the direction.  Hope it can be so.  

Kevin M

Barb, you kill me.  ;;D


Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Luciano on Jul 24th, 2004, 7:06pm
ALL OUCH-Italia members laughed at those pics and they loved the humour you had.... no one shocked here too!!! ;)

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Rock_Lobster on Jul 24th, 2004, 9:47pm
Funniest pictures of the lot, Chuck.  

It is the lot of some to 'object'.  It is the lot of the rest of us to tell them to fuck themselves.    

You owe us an apology for apologizing.  

Jasus edwarsii

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Ree on Jul 24th, 2004, 11:36pm
whats the big deal... he isnt the first member of ouch to show his body parts............ LOL... all the power to ya chuck........... sorry you feel bad honey... remember ya can't go back so... you said your appology... so let's move on.

Love ya buddy Ree

Title: shocked and dismayed
Post by rumplestiltskin on Jul 25th, 2004, 5:53am
Repent! You generation of vipers! Fall down on yer knees and beg God and Bob's forgiveness! Desolation shall be thy reward!

deep in yer hearts...you know that it's true. I've heard various reports of the incident. It was a day of shame and disgust for OUCH. The low point. ya got trouble my friend....with a capitol P that ryhmes with T...that stands for POOL!!!

2 hussies gamblin on a game...one in a skirt even...men learing at her thighs as she stretched for shots! Ya got trouble! Ya let those 6 pocket devil's tables into a town and all morally goes out the window. What's next? dime novels? Kids sayin "soes yer old lady"? ....Ya got trouble!

someone please post a link to a good photo of the shameful incident. root out the devil brothers and sisters.

good grief
den


Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by stevegeebe on Jul 25th, 2004, 8:19am
O.U.C.H., ouch!

Steve G

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by john_d on Jul 25th, 2004, 9:29am
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Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by don on Jul 25th, 2004, 11:29am

Quote:
The press even found a photo of Rice sitting in Hart's lap -- taken in the Bahamas aboard a boat named (appropriately) "Monkey Business."

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by don on Jul 25th, 2004, 11:48am

Quote:
let's have a Clusterheadache.com Convention instead' attitude...


Theres your solution. Thats the place to wear lampshades, get drunk, and show your ass.


Quote:
'Fuck OUCH conventions


That is not the solution. This is where to present a professional, lets get it done, publc image.

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Cathi04 on Jul 25th, 2004, 11:56am
Heyyy....why not 2 events...
THe Clusterhead family reunion(where seldom is hearrrrd, a discouraging wordddd)........and a 3pc suited, very together, crisp...AND CORDIAL meeting focused on the dissemination of facts and progress...

Conventions have always been a place where inappropriate behavior runs rampant.. NOT just in Clusterville..it seems to be an opportunity for hooking up", setting up outrageous pranks, and accomplishing something positive in the bargain..
Personally, I would LOVE to keep Chucks keester out of this, but I sure dont want to change him one iota.

Let's stick a fork in this, could we?

Cathi :P

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by john_d on Jul 25th, 2004, 12:12pm
Hardly anyone will go to the OUCH convention, and the current group of people will become a clusterheadaches.com group instead.  I have not been to a convention so my 2 cents is worth about 1 cent, but I hope you ask yourself if this what you really want?




Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by don on Jul 25th, 2004, 12:14pm
Keep hearing OUCH should be run like a business. A professional organization.


Quote:
Conventions have always been a place where inappropriate behavior runs rampant..


So which is it?

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by john_d on Jul 25th, 2004, 12:19pm

on 07/25/04 at 12:14:58, don wrote:
Keep hearing OUCH should be run like a business. A professional organization.


So which is it?


well, From what I have read of your posts it sounds like you know more about these orgs than I do, but I think that OUCH should be run professionally like a business but things outside of the business process should not even enter into OUCH at all.  I have been to business conventions and people always party, the difference is that the pictures are not posted.  But this is not an OUCH website.  Hmmm, it is confusing I admit.

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by don on Jul 25th, 2004, 12:25pm

Quote:
Hardly anyone will go to the OUCH convention


Then where is the dedication to the mission?

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by john_d on Jul 25th, 2004, 12:32pm

on 07/25/04 at 12:25:31, don wrote:
Then where is the dedication to the mission?


I really can't defend that position, it is just conjecture on my part.  But it still rings true to me.

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what about just making a much clearer distinction and boundary at the conventions between social and OUCH business activities?  Just a thought.

FYI, this same conversation is going on at the OUCH new business board, I am going to continue this there.

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by alleyoop on Jul 25th, 2004, 1:27pm

on 07/24/04 at 15:09:05, Jonny wrote:
Me and my girl at one time held some kind of postion or another with OUCH, but I cant remember if it was at the same time as the Atlanta convention.....Cause we hung our asses out the seventh floor window in broad daylight for all to see and we laughed for a half hour.

Two moons over Atlanta ;;D

.....................................jonny


Hey, wasn't that about the time someone wrote a song that went something like, "That's the night the lights went out in Georgia."
' [smiley=laugh.gif]

.............................................................alley

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Bob P on Jul 25th, 2004, 2:24pm

on 07/25/04 at 11:56:59, Cathi04 wrote:
Heyyy....why not 2 events...
THe Clusterhead family reunion(where seldom is hearrrrd, a discouraging wordddd)........and a 3pc suited, very together, crisp...AND CORDIAL meeting focused on the dissemination of facts and progress...

Conventions have always been a place where inappropriate behavior runs rampant.. NOT just in Clusterville..it seems to be an opportunity for hooking up", setting up outrageous pranks, and accomplishing something positive in the bargain..
Personally, I would LOVE to keep Chucks keester out of this, but I sure dont want to change him one iota.

Let's stick a fork in this, could we?

Cathi :P

Taking the lead from Big Dan's post, exactly what I suggested on the OUCH board.

A little story here:  At the first OUCH convnetion in Las Vegas, I tried to facilitate the business meeting on Saturday.  It quickly became appearant, since this was the first gathering of many clusterheads, that each response was coupled with the sufferers clusterhead story.  It was obviously more important for everyone there to talk and share and join with other sufferers then to try to organize OUCH.  The business of OUCH was out the window and I really think that is what the situation called for.

4 more conventions have taken place since that first one.  There is still a need for socializing.  There are new attendees who are experiencing what that other group did 5 years ago.  There is also a faction for whom the socializing isn't the main focus anymore.  Some who would like to get more work done for the clusterhead cause, not just socialize.  They would undoubted still socialize and have some fun but the main focus would be clsuters and OUCH work.

Heck, maybe even have one convention with two tracks.  One for the 'Iwant to socialize and attend a cluster basics course' bunch and one for the 'let's get down work' group.

Don's posts farther up this thread, regarding the structure of the organization, bear some serious consideration also.  Maybe it's time for OUCH to take that leap to professional.  Draw the line in the sand between this mb and OUCH just a little deeper so it's easier to see.  They both have their purpose and both are good but they have different agendas.

There is an opportunity for progess in all of this after all.

Title: Re:
Post by ZAIRA on Jul 25th, 2004, 4:01pm

Quote:
Another Apology


:-* Why? PLS don't apologize, old fossil!! Oooooh and if someone feels offended, ah don't mind.... I think you made us laugh.... (I loved your underpants ;;D ;;D)

Ciao  :-*

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Ree on Jul 25th, 2004, 8:29pm
the guy said sorry.........

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by cootie on Jul 25th, 2004, 8:37pm
WTF.......I didn't realize the convention was some sort of personality contest.........you win I loose Pam

PS: yeah.....jus what we all wanna do at a convention like this......all go to meet each other and sit thru stuffy meetings and be strictly business for days on end. How bout wearin polyester and sew quilts at break. Get "too" serious and you'll see a big group get very very small. This crap is antisocial behavior !

You were a HOOT Chuck and don't let anyone tell you diferently........I'm sorry we missed the show !!!!!!!!! We really enjoyed meeting you bein you !

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Jayne on Jul 25th, 2004, 8:38pm

on 07/25/04 at 20:29:24, Ree wrote:
the guy said sorry.........


Ree my love, he didn't even need to say he was sorry. It was just one man (see my other thread) who made him feel bad for making us laugh.

Next year I am going to show everyone my arse too and join the moon club.  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Jeepgun on Jul 25th, 2004, 8:49pm
Ditto. You think the planets lining up is a big deal? Just wait until you see the many moons of Uranus all wiggling and jammin' to the music.  ;;D

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by cootie on Jul 25th, 2004, 8:52pm
Brad's in too......it's a ritual around here. Moon-shine state of Ohio Pam

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Ree on Jul 25th, 2004, 9:00pm
I agree Jayne... but he did say sorry so it should be dropped by the fuddy duddies that thought it inappropriate.........and if you did it...Jayne no one would say anything..........only certain people can shine their moons... this IS fast becoming a clicky group I am finding.  
I am happy that I didnt go to the convention at this point!!! Too many INJUNS in the TeePee ~~ I think...

ree (one happy INJUN) ((who will only moon the snobby moms in my daughters school)) [smiley=moonwiggle.gif]

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by brain_cramps on Jul 25th, 2004, 9:11pm

on 07/25/04 at 20:38:38, Jayne wrote:
Next year I am going to show everyone my arse too and join the moon club.  [smiley=laugh.gif]


I think I'm gonna have to run the border for that show!    

grant      :D

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Jul 25th, 2004, 9:24pm
Grant - I'll pick you up on the way through!  We can dress you up like an old lady and smuggle you across - no problem!

I hope they all have interesting tatts to show - if they're going to bare all - it might as well be decorated.

I think it took balls (no pun intended, well maybe  ;;D) to do what Chuck did - too bad someone found it offensive.  I'm sure there was no evil intent there - just some good old fashioned hi-jinks!

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by cootie on Jul 25th, 2004, 9:55pm
Ree......yeah.....too many injuns in the tee-pee and the chief tossed a hot coal inside ! Where there's smoke there's fire Pam  8)


Actually I have no idea what I am talking about.....ha-ha......beat ya to the punch !!!!

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Charlie on Jul 25th, 2004, 10:35pm
We do like to make things difficult.

Charlie

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Big Dan on Jul 25th, 2004, 11:45pm
Yeah... so anyway


.... lets get back to what Jayne said.




on 07/25/04 at 20:38:38, Jayne wrote:
Next year I am going to show everyone my arse too and join the moon club.  [smiley=laugh.gif]



;;D


-Big Dan




Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by DJ on Jul 26th, 2004, 12:54am
Would it make everyone feel better if I changed the title of the picture page on this site from:

"5th Annual OUCH Convention"

to

"5th Annual Clusterhead Convention"????

OK, it's done.

After all, the pictures are on this site (ch.com) and not on the "official OUCH site".

I will ensure that only the dignified, "business type" pictures make it up on the picture page at the OUCH site for the annual convention as to not confuse the business with the fun...

Everyone feel better now????  Jesus...

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Big Dan on Jul 26th, 2004, 1:13am

on 07/26/04 at 00:54:20, DJ wrote:
I will ensure that only the dignified, "business type" pictures make it up on the picture page at the OUCH site for the annual convention as to not confuse the business with the fun...



There must be truckloads of those pics floating around...


.. anywho.. thanks Deej... Lord of the Dispute Enders..

;;D

By the way... you need put a Bic on that grape of yours, my lips got whisker burn.



-Big Dan

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Kevin_M on Jul 26th, 2004, 1:29am

on 07/25/04 at 20:38:38, Jayne wrote:
Next year I am going to show everyone my arse too and join the moon club.  [smiley=laugh.gif]


Oh no, look where Chuck's behavior has led us to now, Jayne has gone and gotten provertly corrupted.  

Chuck, have I told you I love you.  

disclaimer:  no smiling muscles were restrained or restricted from use in the creation of this post,  quote copied not intended for prolonged hoping, waiting and thinking about beyond one year.

Kevin M



Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Kevin_M on Jul 26th, 2004, 1:53am

on 07/26/04 at 00:54:20, DJ wrote:
OK, it's done.


Just when you think the peace pipe didn't have another hit in it....

The controlling interest takes a hand at it.

Thanks DJ

Kevin M

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Bob P on Jul 26th, 2004, 10:01am

on 07/26/04 at 00:54:20, DJ wrote:
Would it make everyone feel better if I changed the title of the picture page on this site from:

"5th Annual OUCH Convention"

to

"5th Annual Clusterhead Convention"????

OK, it's done.

After all, the pictures are on this site (ch.com) and not on the "official OUCH site".

I will ensure that only the dignified, "business type" pictures make it up on the picture page at the OUCH site for the annual convention as to not confuse the business with the fun...

Everyone feel better now????  Jesus...

To answer your last question DeeJ, no.  It is/was the 5th Annual OUCH Convnetion no matter what web site the pictures are on.  Changing the title of the thread or page doesn't change that.  I'd prefer that you leave it titled what it was, the OUCH Convnetion.

It's been entertaining, to say the least, to watch the feeding frenzy.  How one person's questioning if a persons behavior is appropriate for a member of the BoD grows into "someone was offended" and nobody should have fun at the convention is an amazing evolution.  I would guess that it's the same way the convention "petition" was developed.  BTW - no apology was ever asked for from Chuck.

Cootie and Jayne, ya can run down the street naked and swinging dead chickens over your head at the next convention and it wouldn't bother me a bit.  You all probably have a long way to go to catch up with me on the number of BA's hung in a lifetime (double hogback growler).

I still think Big Dan's and Don's comments in this thread are worthy of discussion.  I think they are suggestions with merit and should at least be considered.

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by cootie on Jul 26th, 2004, 10:31am
quote: Cootie and Jayne, ya can run down the street naked and swinging dead chickens over your head at the next convention and it wouldn't bother me a bit.

No thanks BobP.......I have NO intentions of bein shark bait at the next convention. Just stickin up for my own Pam  

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Big Dan on Jul 26th, 2004, 11:10am

on 07/26/04 at 10:01:19, Bob P wrote:
I still think Big Dan's and Don's comments in this thread are worthy of discussion.  I think they are suggestions with merit and should at least be considered.



... That's what I'm trying to say, but no-one is listening...


So, again... are you really gunna show your bum next year, Jayne?...


;;D



-Big Dan

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by echo on Jul 26th, 2004, 12:01pm

on 07/26/04 at 11:10:50, Big Dan wrote:
... That's what I'm trying to say, but no-one is listening...


So, again... are you really gunna show your bum next year, Jayne?...


;;D



-Big Dan

How about starting a new thread and voice it again for debate purposes?

I'm listening buddy big butt.  (FTR - I'd would rather see Jayne's butt)


Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Carl_D on Jul 26th, 2004, 10:28pm
Good fucking grief! I can't believe anyone would make an issue of this. I thought what Chuck did was hilarious. Chuck is a good guy who was just having fun. But I guess some people are Persimmon suckers and think we should always be miserable, even when not in an attack.
I am offended that someone else was offended by this. Some people just don't have enough to bitch about. Before anyone flames Chuck, just remember that HE had the balls to let himself be filmed while in a CH attack.

Chuck, your apology should have been "I am sorry you are so narrow minded."

::)
Peace,
Carl D

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Jimi on Jul 26th, 2004, 11:11pm
  Hey Carl, glad you are doing ok. The only one offended wasn't even there, so it is much ado about nothing as far as I am concerned.  Chuck's flash , as it were, happened so quick that I grabbed my camera and was too late. But enough about that.
   I really enjoyed your cd. Are you doing the vocals? If so, you got a great voice.
   Peace,
   Jimi

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by Carl_D on Jul 26th, 2004, 11:23pm

on 07/26/04 at 23:11:33, Jimi wrote:
 
   I really enjoyed your cd. Are you doing the vocals? If so, you got a great voice.


Yep, that's me singing. LOL. Actually, I always thought my vocals were my weakest talent, while the guitar is my strong point. But yeah, I did everything on those discs. Glad you liked it.

Peace,
Carl D

Title: Re: Another Apology
Post by UN_SOLVED on Jul 26th, 2004, 11:55pm
I missed the whole damn show. I was feeling good in downtown Nashville, checking out the bands and the babes.
So, Jaynes bearing it all next year ?   lol

Unsolved
I think some are being a bit harsh to Chuck. He was just having a good time. Do we really need a 'code of conduct' that extends after hours in the bar ?



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