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(Message started by: Callico_Kid on Jun 7^th, 2004, 12:14am)

Title: Mercury
Post by Callico_Kid on Jun 7^th, 2004, 12:14am

Today at church I was speaking with a lady who has had debilitating HAs for several years, not CH. She told me that her her new Dr had tested her for mercury contamination and found quite a bit in her system. He told her that it was affecting the pituitary gland and the hypothalmus, causing digestive problems and her HAs. She asked it there might be any connection to CH. Just did a quick search and didn't find anything. Anyone know anything about it?

Thanks,
jc

Title: Re: Mercury
Post by UN_SOLVED on Jun 7^th, 2004, 12:46am

Alot of things will also cause headaches. Eating an ice cream too fast, smelling strong fumes/odors, glaring lights, ... the list goes on and on.
As far as CH and Mercury contamintaion being connected...NAAA. Doctors would've been on this long ago. The information is out there about Mercury contamination. If you get this...you'll get a host of other symptoms too.
"Early signs of mercury contamination include decreased sense of touch, hearing, vision and taste, a metallic taste in the mouth, fatigue or lack of physical endurance and increased salivation. Symptoms also include anorexia, numbness, paresthesias, headaches, hypertension, irritability, excitability and immune suppression and immune dysregulation (possibly leading to autoimmune disorders). In severe situations, psychosis, anemia, tremors, incoordination, renal dysfunction and renal failure are noted."
SEE THIS PAGE (http://www.daleguyermd.com/pages/MercuryTesting.htm)

Unsolved

Title: Re: Mercury
Post by Callico_Kid on Jun 7^th, 2004, 1:58am

That was my initial thought on it also. Didn't remember seeing anything on it and thought I would ask. Thnaks.

jc

Title: Re: Mercury
Post by Charlie on Jun 7^th, 2004, 2:39am

It would be nice to find something so simple but alas, CH has done a good job evading such things. While I think it's good to keep track of contaminants, I think we tend to overdo it. Witness the closing of playgrounds because of minute arsenic traces in paint.

I've never seen a mercury connection either.

Charlie

Title: Re: Mercury
Post by Paigelle on Jun 7^th, 2004, 8:11am

My cousin's wife suffered from mercury poisoning. She suffered for almost 6 months before they found the problem, but no headaches with it.

Title: Re: Mercury
Post by floridian on Jun 7^th, 2004, 8:57am

No evidence that heavy metals are the cause of clusters. They are toxic and could aggravate - that hasn't been investigated in people, but the animal studies show that low levels of heavy metals screw up the hypothalamus and circadian cycles. Not something we need more of!!

Quote:

Folia Histochem Cytochem (Krakow). 1983;21(3-4):231-7.

The influence of mercury and lead compounds on the circadian rhythm of cytoplasmic RNA in hypothalamic neurons of mice.

Lach H, Srebro Z, Dziubek K, Krawczyk S, Szaroma W.

Cytophotometric determinations of cytoplasmic RNA were performed at various hours in normal mice and those given a single injection of mercuric citrate or lead citrate. A cosinor analysis of the results has revealed a marked reduction of the amplitude of the rhythm of RNA content a shift of the acrophase to earlier hours in the experimental animals. Moreover, administration of the tested compounds caused a general reduction of the RNA content in the hypothalami.

In cluster headaches, there is also a reduction in the amplitude of normal cycles - for some of these cycles, clusterheads are blunted year round. But importantly: for some hypothalamus activity, the cycles are disturbed only when the clusters are active - not in remission. This suggests that heavy metal poisoning is not the primary cause. It could be a secondary factor for some people.

Quote:

Toxicology. 1983 Nov;28(4):335-45.

Effect of methylmercury chloride on sleep-waking rhythms in rats.

Arito H, Hara N, Torii S.

Effects of methylmercury chloride (MMC) on circadian sleep-waking rhythms were examined in rats which had been chronically implanted with EEG and EMG electrodes. Bihourly distributions of wakefulness (W), slow wave sleep (SWS) and paradoxical sleep (PS) and 12-h amounts of W, SWS and PS during light and dark periods were measured before and after MMC administration for 2 successive days at 3 dose levels. A total dose of 10 mg MMC/kg body wt was found to be the threshold for inducing reversible changes in the sleep-waking patterns. A total dose of 30 mg MMC/kg produced an increase in both dark-phase SWS and PS as well as a decrease in light-phase PS at the expense of an increase in light-phase W and a delayed phase of the circadian PS rhythm. The delayed phase of the PS rhythm tended to persist after the increased SWS during the dark period returned to normal. Brain mercury concentrations were measured in order to find the dose-response relationship and the time dependence of the MMC-induced sleep disorder. The sleep-waking disorder was found to appear at lower levels of brain Hg and shorter latency than behavioral disorders of movement and postural maintenance previously reported

Not sure how these doses translate to humans - we live longer and accumulate more over time. The last sentence in the second abstract claims that mercury can affect sleep earlier (at lower doses) - before it causes other problems usually associated with mercury poisoning.

Selenium can reduce the effects of mercury somewhat in the body - it can convert free mercury to a less active microscopic 'amalgam' of sorts, but it takes time. Zinc and calcium bind other heavy metals like lead and cadmium. Selenium and zinc themselves can be toxic if overdone - don't just start gulping without doing some research.

Title: Re: Mercury
Post by Jeepgun on Jun 7^th, 2004, 4:39pm

So I should stop drinking out of thermometers? [smiley=huh.gif] Damn... ;;D

Title: Re: Mercury
Post by Gator on Jun 7^th, 2004, 5:09pm

on 06/07/04 at 16:39:57, Jeepgun wrote:

So I should stop drinking out of thermometers? [smiley=huh.gif] Damn... ;;D

You have to taper off the thermometers. Quitting cold turkey may put you into withdrawals. [smiley=laugh.gif]

In the guest book, several people wrote about using amonia and catshit. Maybe you could use that as a substitute. Maybe make a CS Transdermal Patch for CH.

Title: Re: Mercury
Post by echo on Jun 7^th, 2004, 5:12pm

on 06/07/04 at 17:09:29, Gator wrote:

In the guest book, several people wrote about using amonia and catshit. Maybe you could use that as a substitute.

Be careful! The mixture stated above may be explosive in nature. Nothing worst than someone flinging shit around.

Title: Re: Mercury
Post by Jeepgun on Jun 7^th, 2004, 5:27pm

Yes: The CS Transdermal patch may just be the ticket! ;;D

As for flinging shit around, if I stop, I am certain to experience withdrawals! ;;D

Your Resident Poo-Flinger Into Fans,
-Frank

P.S. Some advice: DUCK!! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Mercury
Post by floridian on Jun 7^th, 2004, 8:43pm

Quote:

So I should stop drinking out of thermometers? Damn...

Yes, no more "winged-feet" mixed drinks.
No more chewing on the window sill in your Georgetown flat.

I generally shoot at an outdoor range - better on the ears as well as less heavy metal to the lungs. I also take care when cleaning my firearms cause that is rich in lead.