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Title: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 14th, 2004, 8:42pm I have gone 15 days PF, I think because of Topamax. Can I go out and get me a stiffy (I mean a drink, not some perversive idea)? I mean I will have my Imitrex shot on hand. I think I am going to go for it. This will be my official, "am I out of my episodic CH cycle test?" Sorry for the chronics. Do any of you chronics just say fuck it and drink anyways? I am a Friday night lounge-lizard drinker. -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Redd715 on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:00pm I don't seem to be plagued with the alcohol trigger at all....I will have a glass of wine with dinner or something and the occasional beer...in fact the night I had more than just A beer the monster took a two hour deture before hitting....so I don't know. Maybe a fluke? |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:06pm I just distinctly remember me sitting there at a wedding reception in '99 having a few cocktails and the people introducing the bride and groom, and I was sitting at a nice round table and an F'en 9 hit me. My eye teared. My nose ran. I was crying too. The pain was at its worst. At this point I hadn't been diagnosed, I was f'en scared out of my gorde. But for sure alcohol triggerred this attack. It had all summer. During this episode (my second), I was getting up to 6/day. It was the summer of me being a guinea pig of medications. Being a 5th year grad student trying to prepare for leaving school and looking for a job, it wasnt a good time. Alcohol was/has always been a trigger. Sure thing, you bet'cha. When in remission, there is no problem in the occasional having a few drinks. My remission is 1.5-3 yrs. Interesting that any cluster heads can drink, but statistics and testimonials say some can. -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by jonny on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:06pm Some people are lucky to have no triggers, in my case I believe its payback for thirty years of hell. ....................................jonny |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by nancyc on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:10pm Scott, they say not to drink on topamax...BUTT, I love my blendas especially at clusterhead gatherings...so all I can say, is if you are Game...Go fer it...butt, have the imitrex close by...this is coming from a former party animal, not a nurse LOL... :)nancyc |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:23pm Nancy, At clusterhead gatherings, do people drink? Because I would imagine there would be people running to the nearest oxygen tanks. In college I remember a game at the bar called penny to you pee. A group of guys sat at the bar and drank beers for a penny until someone had to pee. So in this clusterheadache game, maybe a group could drink until someone needs oxygen? Seriosuly, if you are chronic, which I imagine a lot clusterheadache convention-goers are, how do you guys do it? (drinking that is) -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by stevegeebe on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:23pm Scott. I did the same last July under similar conditions. It came back just like the sneeky bastard that it is. At least your selection seems to be a safe choice. I don't know about it if you're still on meds. Be careful and don't drink any beer till August. Steve G |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:25pm Hey Steve, I think I'll risk it. I will have to bear 5 min of agony til the Trex kicks in worse-case scenario. I am on Topamax and 4 other medications. I should be careful in any event. Thanks for the advice. -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by BobG on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:35pm on 04/14/04 at 21:23:43, HypnoticFreddy wrote:
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:36pm Well. I guess then I don't need to ask if you roll in the kegs? -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Melissa on Apr 14th, 2004, 9:49pm Scott, Some chronics do drink anyway because they're gonna get hit either way or because alcohol is not a trigger for them. There are episodics who come to the convention who are not in cycle so obviously it won't affect them (except for the occasional nasty hangover ;)) and I've seen some who do not drink because either it is a trigger for them or they just don't drink to begin with. Anyhow, the convention is WAY more than just drinking while socializing, it is a place where clusterheads can feel like they belong, know that they're not alone in this hell and become more educated in their condition and what is being/or will be done to help them. :)mel |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 14th, 2004, 10:11pm Mel, Jonny once said it me, "have you ever met another clusterheadache sufferrer?" No, not that I was aware of. I wish like a small group could convene in cities like NYC or Boston (I live in CT). I really can't attend this convention in Nashville. I have seen some postings about small gatherings, and if someone ever is going to try to get one going in any northeast cities, please let me know. I now have a real deep desire to hang out with cluster heads. Not just write messages. I would like to meet some of you and just chat a bit. -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by nancyc on Apr 14th, 2004, 10:19pm Yeah, bro, clusterheads do drink at conventions but like Mel said, that is not all we do....we enjoy being together ...it is like one big happy family....Wish you could make it to Nashville to have the experience of your life....Good luck, bro...stay pf and keep us posted on how you are doing.... ;;Dnancyc PS topamax is one of the meds I am on. |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by MarkV2 on Apr 14th, 2004, 10:22pm Scott, I feel your pain :) I'm chronic and get flare-ups at different times of the year when I can't drink beer :-[ I'm not a liquor person (except for gin&tonics or vodka/tonics), but sometimes need alcohol to unwind. I found that tequila is the only drink that I can get down without an immediate stab to the skull during those CH flareups. Tried vodka, gin, moonshine, brandy, wine, burbon, etc. Tequila (or other agave derivatives) was the only one I could down. MarkV |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 14th, 2004, 10:31pm That's intriguing. Do other cluster heads have certain types of alcoholic beverages that are or aren't triggers? -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Rock_Lobster on Apr 14th, 2004, 11:09pm Have at it Scott. You have the Trex. One way to find out. The 24th is my day. Hard afternoon of hockey, followed by an evening with a massive Hold'Em Poker/Hockey Playoff party. Having a buddy pick me up, so I will be doing my best to wear out a mug. Liver has had three months of R&R, Rock |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by cootie on Apr 14th, 2004, 11:12pm When Brad's last cycle hit he 'swore' it was sinus or stress.....didn't wanna believe anuther cycle was on it's way. He found out 'the hard way' tho many nites in a row that comein home from work and chillin with a few beers was gonna keep his head cool. He'd have a few beers and go to bed and WHAM0-BAMO I could here the pitter patter of his fist in the pillow and increaseingly whimperings begin. Beer's the only booze he drinks cuz he gets too mean with the stiffy stuff (it's the hillbilly in him) Yer gonna miss an aweful good time not makein Nashville....it's a big ass social learning and bonding party ya don't have to drink at ta have fun........Save yer beer tabs fer jonny Pam |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Charlie on Apr 14th, 2004, 11:14pm Quote:
http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/PASS OUT SURPRISE.gif Drank more beer at the last one than in five years. Had fun fun fun Charlie |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 14th, 2004, 11:20pm Rock, Cool man. Not a heavy drinker. Just that Friday night, "Hey baby...what's yer sign?" business. I am going to have a drink with no reservations, because if I pass, I know I am out of the cycle. if I fail, my "so what is your sign baby?" turns into, a "Oh My God in heaven no, please don't make me go to the bathroom to inject me, make me feel like one of Rockies victims, etc." Usually, even a single CH just knocks me out. I am done. I can't go back to partying, even if after 5-10 min, the CH is aborted. I feel exhausted, but strangely euphoric. I think this has been discussed here. I think the pain is so intense that the body produces as much pain endorphins possible that by the end of the CH, you have a sort of buzz (non-alcohol or drug) induced. Do any of you guys/gals get this? -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Turts on Apr 15th, 2004, 8:04am Alciiiiholllllis not a trigger fa meeeeeeeee Usually kicks the beastttssssssssss asrseeeee or pisses immmm off. Eiffaaa a KIP none or 10. Tutrssss (dont know why alcohol makes my typing slurr) ;;D ;;D |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Luke63 on Apr 15th, 2004, 8:58am I've been off the booze for a while...not sure if it triggers or not...cuz even when I didn't drink I got 'em. But now I think Im closin in on the end of this cycle(knock on wood)..so ive really been steering away from it...but boy oh boy...cant wait for that big'ole gin n tonic or one of my own famous in my head margarita's!!!! |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 15th, 2004, 12:12pm Quote:
Alcohol is not a trigger for chronics. Like Jonny said, it's one of the few perks for the daily hell we endure. LindaH |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 15th, 2004, 12:43pm Come Friday, I am going to get Shit-faced. Enough of this, "I can't drink cuz of the CH BS" It'll be me, a bottle of Stolleys, some Sushi, and my 'Trex (hopefully some nice drunk happy hour leftovers). That is what my life is. I go to this nice oyster bar at 9:00 PM to listen to jazz and sit at the bar and end up conversing with these really loud obnoxious drunken married ladies who have been there since their lunch breaks. Hehe. I am crazy. -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 15th, 2004, 1:18pm Who said anything about getting shit faced? Have a couple. Don't want to piss the beast off, ya know. LindaH |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by ZAIRA on Apr 15th, 2004, 2:22pm ;;D Good afternoon, Scott! It was my test also ;;D! Now I know for sure that if I drink beer the beast wakes up... what a unlike :-/! It’s like to say to an Italian not to eat spaghetti... [smiley=ohjez.gif] I’m happy for your PF time... yeah!!! All the best, Zaira [smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by stuey on Apr 15th, 2004, 5:04pm I would go for it if you've been pain free this long. Hopefully, nothing will happen and you'll have your good time. It's definitely a trigger with me but when they're over I drink like any normal person. Good luck to you. Have one or two for me. |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Charlie on Apr 15th, 2004, 5:15pm Guzzle away. It would take me a LOT of liquor to eat sushi. Bleaugh. Good luck and don't be looking for the beast. Hopefully he needs a century long rest. Charlie |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by cootie on Apr 15th, 2004, 7:31pm Gosh Scott if ya lived in our area we'd invite ya to our hangouts and you would be totally and absoultely entertained by us married and single obnoxious loud chicks and guys. When in a bar drink like the drunks Pam Actually we don't get drunk and routy unless we have a hotel in the bar or driver.......it's a low roar otherwise but still fun ! |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by MarkV2 on Apr 15th, 2004, 7:45pm Quote:
I must be the beer cans that triggers my CHs then??? MarkV |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by jonny on Apr 15th, 2004, 7:56pm What I said................... on 04/14/04 at 21:06:38, jonny wrote:
If you read the thread you would know this.....im sure your not just a skip and jump ass-hole |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 15th, 2004, 11:31pm sorry. I was not quoting Jonny...I just was inferring my own opinions on what I thought Jonny was also saying that I was also saying and others like me were also saying in that alcohol was not a trigger for chronics. THERE! Kim-speak enough for everyone? sheesh. lmao...LindaH P.S.Mark, Watch out for them beer cans. They're dangerous. |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 15th, 2004, 11:47pm I will be sure to report back to you with my drinking experience. And Zaira, quite honestly, I wish YOU could join me for a drink. Please don't be offended if you are married or have a boyfriend. I just think you are the prettiest cluster head (next to Jonny). ::) I guess I should also take into account the cocktail of meds which i won't list here because the post would be obscenly long. I have never had problems in past with having drinks on my meds. As Linda said, and I am not a heavy drinker 3-4 tops. No need to put on the lamp shade. -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by jonny on Apr 16th, 2004, 12:07am on 04/15/04 at 23:47:59, HypnoticFreddy wrote:
Yes, Im very pretty, butt unless you want your ass reamed more than it has been you will think twice, Scott We all know you have this ream thing going. .....................................jonny |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 16th, 2004, 12:22am Oy vey Jonny, If we do ever meet, yer gonna kick my ass. I'll bring my boxing gloves. And some Ted Nugent tapes. -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by jonny on Apr 16th, 2004, 12:31am on 04/16/04 at 00:22:24, HypnoticFreddy wrote:
You dont know how right you are ;;D ...................................................jonny |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by ZAIRA on Apr 16th, 2004, 3:33pm on 04/15/04 at 23:47:59, HypnoticFreddy wrote:
1- Only if you sing "Eye in the Sky"... ;) ;) ;) ;;D ! on 04/15/04 at 23:47:59, HypnoticFreddy wrote:
2- Oh God ;;D........... put on your glasses and then we will discuss again! ;;D OK? |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Mac on Apr 16th, 2004, 5:06pm I thank my lucky stars alcohol doesn't trigger Ch's in me. I play the taverns every weekend . It's hard enough quitting smoking in that atmosphere let alone having to give up the Drink. Rock on Scott! http://pic6.picturetrail.com/VOL168/1702168/3557055/48371750.jpg |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 16th, 2004, 6:05pm Zaira, Maybe I will go to the package store (thats what they call liquor stores here in New England) and get some booze, come home, write a song for you, and after I get can-tankered I'll turn the Moog up real loud and write a song for CH sufferrers. The Moog makes really funky sounds. I am a dork. P.S. Eye in the Sky is a cover song of a tune by the Alan Parsons Project circa 1982. Most of the other tunes are originals. -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Melissa on Apr 16th, 2004, 10:37pm on 04/16/04 at 15:33:15, ZAIRA wrote:
Zazi, I gotta agree with the dork here, you are VERY beautiful!!! Like an elegant Goddess statue. ;;D (((hugs))) :)mel |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by ZAIRA on Apr 17th, 2004, 3:47pm Did I inspire you, Scott? ;;D ;;D ;;D on 04/16/04 at 22:37:38, Melissa wrote:
LOL Beautiful women know beautiful women.... ;) ;;D Hugs Mel! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 17th, 2004, 6:14pm Zazi, Yes, you totally inspired me. Although, I am making it more than "just some song about a girl I don't know". It takes into account the pain and sufferring of cluster headaches as well as the dreams of a beautiful Italian woman (who has been through agony). I will email you you later. I am at my bro's visiting my beautiful twin nieces right now! www.freezingcold.com/twins -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Luciano on Apr 19th, 2004, 1:20pm I see that Zazi here gets a lot of allurements... :P ...well is true, she is a beautiful, intelligent and lovely girl... BUTTTT: ...please always remember that she got married with a temendously gelous sicilian-like guy... who asked me to look after his wife during the Convention. :o now... I'm too young to die... so, if you care about me (too), PLEASE remember what said above.... ;;D Thanks! LOL |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Massimo on Apr 19th, 2004, 2:20pm LOL Luciano, but sorry, he is right to be jealous: Zazi has a wonderful spirit ;;D, she is beautiful in and out..... sorry Fabio, my friend: how could anyone resist your wife?? ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by ZAIRA on Apr 19th, 2004, 4:09pm on 04/19/04 at 13:20:11, Luciano wrote:
LOL ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D If I were you I wouldn't worry.... I hope you remember that my husband is a very nice and gentle guy ;;D..... and he will never hurt you ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D.... you'll survive! :-* ;) |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by Cerberus on Apr 19th, 2004, 7:01pm Hey Hypmofred! I see ya snaked out on the booze n sushi...probably a good idea. Ya wanna see a bunch of clusterheads get reaaaaal shitty....go to convention. freakin lushes had em runnin to that store fer beer n such on five minute patrols at the Davcon meet ;;D...can only imagine how convention is gonna go.....can't wait! Get yer ticket now cause seating is limited....literally. ;) Ramon |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 19th, 2004, 7:52pm Hi everybody, I have enjoyed reading all your posts, mainly in defense of Zazi who I have enjoyed some nice emails with. I think I have opted for focusing on writing a nice, emotional song, and a song that I can put a picture too. This vs. drinking. I really am not much of a drinker. Also a tough, sad story. Good songs are always about strong emotions Pain is an emotion, in a way, and why not let it out in a song? Personally for me this has been cool because it has been a good outlet for my hyper energy. But I enjoy how many of you stick up for Zazi. Who by all means should be stuck up for. I won't say anymore. It is a breach of trust. I hope to have this song out soon. There will be some Italian lyrics, and I fear I will butcher them. I got the words from Zazi, but I need to learn how to pronounce them correctly. Either way, I want to continue my Coldplay-esque sounding tune. My fav rock band. -Scott |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by And on Apr 20th, 2004, 5:42am Zazi's husband apart ;;D, Scott, I think she is very happy if you're writing a song for her......... :P :P LMAO Luciano, I can't believe ;;D, I know Fabio very well, he is a very pleasant and a quite (like a pony ;;D) and gentle (and lucky ;;D) man. So, don't worry........ ;;D |
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Title: Re: When I get to try a Vodka/Tonic? Post by ZAIRA on Apr 20th, 2004, 9:38am on 04/20/04 at 05:42:17, And wrote:
Of course! Thanks Scott! I wish I could meet you..... ;) ;) ;;D |
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