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(Message started by: Bob P on Apr 7th, 2004, 10:31am)

Title: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Bob P on Apr 7th, 2004, 10:31am
that some jerk saw fit to attack the OUCH-UK message board because of their stance on not allowing the shroom therapy to be advertised on the site.  Because of it, OUCH-UK is now moving their MB to a paid members only area for security reasons.

My way or the highway.  Someone didn't get it their way so now everyone else has to hit the highway!

The person who did it din't have the balls to use their own name.  They logged in as our past Pres. Don to make their posts, some personal attacks on MOB and his wife.

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by brain_cramps on Apr 7th, 2004, 10:33am
sheeesh....   unbelievable!!!   >:(

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by thomas on Apr 7th, 2004, 10:35am
Boy, that's just wonderful, NOT!  I guess some people will never learn. :(

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Melissa on Apr 7th, 2004, 10:48am
I feel so sad for the some of the clusterheads who need that site, but won't be able to have access because they don't have the money.  Whoever caused this to happen will find out that whatever deeds you do, good or bad, will all come back to you eventually.  

:( mel

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Margi on Apr 7th, 2004, 11:35am
You're right Bob - it is very unfortunate.  

OUCH UK has taken this move to protect their membership and, rightly so, I feel.  I hope everyone realizes that they have also enhanced their facilities for visitors and non-members, though!  They will now be offering a dedicated board where help and advice can be found for non-members.   Their trustees and officers will continually monitor the non-member area and assist their visitors.  Did you know that OUCH UK also has a "help line" (phone line) that sufferers can call and talk to fellow clusterhead volunteers?  They do good work at OUCH UK, folks.  

I think they're reacting to this attack in a very professional manor.  This is certainly not a money grab on their part, by any means.  This is a move to enhance the security for their membership.  

Also, I hope if MOB is reading this, that he knows that he and his wife have our full support and good wishes through this chaos.  

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by bobkip on Apr 7th, 2004, 12:07pm
Thanks for the update Bob.
Kip

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 7th, 2004, 12:29pm
Thanks for posting that Margi.

Mel and Vig, you've got it all wrong.
Margi is right, no cluster sufferer in the UK will have to pay to get advice or help, the same as it is now.
People will have the option of having full membership for £10 , but they will still be able to go onto the website, ask questions, have them answered rapidly by people who have in depth knowledge of their condition and also talk on the phone to those same knowledgeable people if they prefer that or are not online. They will ALL have access to the wealth of really great information there is there.


All we are doing is preventing people coming onto the site and onto the message board at random, pretending to be other people and posting obscene, vile and incredibly upsetting things about others and trying to take the site down at the same time.

It is one very sick clusterhead who tries to do that to other cluster sufferers, and I pity them.


Wendy

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Melissa on Apr 7th, 2004, 12:33pm
Ok Wendy, thanks for explaining it to me.  I thought they had to close everything off because they hacked the WHOLE site.  I didn't know it was just because of someone screwing with the message board.

mel

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by fubar on Apr 7th, 2004, 12:35pm
OUCH UK is doing what it has to do.  'Sad' is the correct word to use, as this kind of behavior by the rogue poster is completely stupid and unnecessary and has no potential to advance the issue of shroom therapy, right or wrong.


Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 7th, 2004, 12:59pm
Mel

The whole site was hacked, as was OUCH Canada's.
Theirs went down, MOB held ours up but at a horrible cost to him and his wife.
The obscene insults were and are being put on the message board.

And the people concerned haven't stopped yet, that's why the new security measures are being installed.
There is no choice.
But again, it must be stressed, no cluster sufferers will be prevented from getting help and advice if they haven't the money, never have been.

Wendy

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Margi on Apr 7th, 2004, 1:04pm
Just so the record is straight here.....OUCH Canada's message board was hacked and shut down the week prior to UK getting hit.  We didn't draw attention to it, because that usually just fans the flames.  Hints of the same modus operandi were there, but our attack was not as brutal as that aimed at UK.  MOB and I have compared notes, webmaster to webmaster, and although we were able to get IP numbers, it is impossible to point fingers because of the anonymity of the internet.  

I may be outta the loop here, but I hadn't heard that these attacks were shroom driven/related and I think folks are better off not assuming that that is the hidden agenda here.

Preying on people in pain is a sad thing to do and we've all had to take measures to tighten up security as a result.  

Let's not start things up all over again, ok?  Our webmasters for the various OUCH sites are at the helm here and keeping things under control.  Let's let them do their jobs, ok?

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 7th, 2004, 1:08pm
Hear Hear Margi


The people who did this have hidden in a cowardly fashion behind the log in names of others, and using the Clusterbusters name also so unless they declare themselves, it is unfair to point fingers.

Lets just agree that they are pathetic, sad little no-lifers who have so much time on their hands because of their lack of a real life that they can do this to cluster sufferers.


Wendy

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 7th, 2004, 1:47pm
Vig

No idea why you think innocent cluster sufferers will be stopped, stopped from what?


What WILL happen is that the site will become a safer place to be. I for one will be very happy to feel that I know who I am talking to and that they are who they say they are, and they are not going to abuse me or others.


W

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by john123 on Apr 7th, 2004, 2:21pm
I was listening to the creator of 'The Sims' computer game speak at a conference a few years back.  He said their web site was getting attacked 100 times a minute!  Hackers are looking for any targets on the web with vulnerabilities, nothing personal.  I seriously doubt there is a motive.

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 7th, 2004, 2:51pm


John

If you had read the posts, you would know this was personal


Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by john123 on Apr 7th, 2004, 3:08pm

I don't think people should be allowed to remove posts, it can put a whole message thread out of context.

I am reading the posts Wendy, and it is about as clear as mud.  You don't worry about trying to explain, I am ok with not knowing.  

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 7th, 2004, 3:10pm
YOU ARE NOT READING THE  POSTS JOHN, THEY WERE SO OBSCENE THEY HAD TO BE REMOVED AS FAST AS WE FOUND THEM.

IF YOU ARE READING THEM, YOU POSTED THEM


Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by john123 on Apr 7th, 2004, 3:14pm
what's with the caps and the weird accusation.  

I was talking about the posts in this thread, and I was also talking about people who remove their own messages, not moderators who remove malicious messages.

I am the same guy you talked to earlier about twin genetics, I am a friend.  

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 7th, 2004, 3:21pm
Sorry John

Upset and angry. Your post didn't read like that. It read that people shouldn't have removed the obscene posts from the UK.

Have people removed posts here, missed that?

W

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by john123 on Apr 7th, 2004, 3:25pm
it's ok, there were a few posts removed from this thread, that was all.  

I recognize you are upset, I hope you can soon return to a feeling of safety in these message boards.   :)


Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 7th, 2004, 3:34pm
Thanks John

Posts removed? I wonder why [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Mr.Happy on Apr 7th, 2004, 3:43pm
Edit Ban List
IP banning: (e.g. 192.168.12.213 or 128.0.*.*) - one entry per line

Email banning: (e.g. badguy@somewhere.com) - one entry per line

Username banning: (e.g. super_dude13) - one entry per line


YaBB has a util for ban controls....don't know what board setup UK and Canada are using. It ain't foolproof, and doesn't work worth squat for hackers flopping from one changing IP address to another (only a real nitwit would use a static IP.)

Good luck trying to stay one step ahead (or behind) this nit,
RJ

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Margi on Apr 7th, 2004, 4:04pm
we all use the YaBB format, Mr. Happy.  It's NOT foolproof and it does have security holes.  A webmaster could spend the rest of their lives banning IP's, emails, and usernames and still get nowhere.

It seems the US boards didn't get attacked.  I don't think Italy did either.  It's not a YaBB issue at all.

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Pinkfloyd on Apr 7th, 2004, 6:17pm

on 04/07/04 at 13:08:49, pubgirl wrote:
Hear Hear Margi

The people who did this have hidden in a cowardly fashion behind the log in names of others, and using the Clusterbusters name also so unless they declare themselves, it is unfair to point fingers.

Wendy


Thanks to both Margi and Wendy.

Let me state publicly then, that not only is Clusterbusters not involved but we also condemn such actions.
As far as I know, no member of Clusterbusters is involved in any way. So, if anyone has information that proves that incorrect, please let me know.

It appears that OUCH UK has taken steps that will make their site better than it was before. I hope that will be the case.

I can think of a half-dozen different intended victims in this. I can't diagnose the "cause" but the "effect" isn't appreciated by anyone.

PF
(note: A reputation is much harder to repair than a website)

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by jonny on Apr 7th, 2004, 7:53pm
Well, Kindly leave me out of this cluster fuck...I was told by someone from the UK that rumors were about that I crashed OUCH Canada or maybe even a friend of mine did.

I think anyone here that known me, knows that I put my name on everything I say and do and I never delete any of my posts.

LMMFAO ;;D....Whens the last time you saw a hacker needing a webmaster to maintain his website?.....ROTFF ;;D

..........................................jonny

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Kevin_M on Apr 7th, 2004, 8:28pm

on 04/07/04 at 19:53:19, jonny wrote:
I think anyone here that known me,
..........................................jonny


No worry jonny, countless know you.  

Anyone who thinks that also tries to measure the edge of a morning mist.    

Guess again.

Kevin M

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Margi on Apr 7th, 2004, 11:32pm
Jonny, that's my fault that you were told that - I apologize.  At the time we got hit, we had a lot of suspects and it was right around the time you said here that you would have your guru friend bring that guy's website down (the one criticizing chronic pain websites).  I know I should have asked you about it - I was wrong not to.  You and I don't always see eye to eye but ... family is family.  I know you better than that and I'm sorry that your post about your guru friend freaked me out a little bit.  There was just a message left on our site that was very "clusterheadish" and I took it the wrong way.
Again, my bad for mentioning your post to MOB.  I probably should have sent this to you in private, but I felt it was important to apologize to you publically.





Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 8th, 2004, 3:16am
Margi

Shame more people haven't got the guts like you have to admit publicly when they are wrong.


Wendy


Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Kirk on Apr 8th, 2004, 4:35am
Damn shame what some immature people will do to a web site that helps others in pain.

Atleast it wasn't a hacker. He would be running something like noiptune and you wouldn't see his IP address at all.

Be carefull out there. We're pulling for ya. [smiley=thumb.gif]

TTFN

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 8th, 2004, 5:20am
It was a hacker Kirk!

Fancy giving a few more lessons in how to do it >:(

Wendy

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Charlie on Apr 8th, 2004, 5:24am
http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/BRING ON WMDS.png

All I can say definitely about this hacker is that he she or it is........alone. I'm hoping a visit from the beast is in the offing. No need for them not to experience all the nuances of this horror.   >:(

Charlie

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by pubgirl on Apr 8th, 2004, 5:28am
I have a preference for Yam removal with no anaesthetic

W

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by sandie99 on Apr 8th, 2004, 6:52am
That is sad!  >:(
Well, they do say in a song: some fools never learn...

PFDs,
sandie99

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by jonny on Apr 8th, 2004, 2:24pm

on 04/07/04 at 23:32:34, Margi wrote:
Jonny, that's my fault that you were told that - I apologize.


Dont sweat it, Margoo ;;D

I actually had a good laugh when I was told that....LOL ;;D

................................jonny

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by 9erfan on Apr 8th, 2004, 3:35pm
Jonny can't even figure out his OWN computer...let alone hack into someone else's!!  ;;D

Love you Jonny  ;)

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Margi on Apr 8th, 2004, 3:59pm

on 04/08/04 at 15:35:24, 9erfan wrote:
Jonny can't even figure out his OWN computer...let alone hack into someone else's!!  ;;D



um...yeah, that was sorta MOB's response too, right after he told me I was being an idiot.   ::)

thanks, Jonny.

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Big Dan on Apr 9th, 2004, 10:37pm
F that douche-bag...

... getting in the way of people finding releif is bullshit...

... some people are just too self-righteous for their own damn good....

May he go bald forever...



-Big Dan  

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Mr.Happy on Apr 9th, 2004, 11:04pm

on 04/09/04 at 22:37:50, Big Dan wrote:
F that douche-bag...


You sure have a way with words. Wimmen too. And a few good men......

Give `em hell, Dan
RJ

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by M.R. on Apr 10th, 2004, 12:45am
Hey

 

   Kindly be considerate of the bald forever thing. Still battling with Norton on getting my virus upgrades and firewall. You can't be late on your updates. This crap will kill ya.

Mike

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 10th, 2004, 8:44am
Hi!
Try pointing a finger at Jim. He comes across as an obsessive law abiding citizen and x prison warden.

Is it just coincidence that this all happenened round about the time that I in all sincere innocence offered 2 send somebody some shrooms one's he's cleared it with the "officials" meaning cops. Cause I no it's illegal 2 send shrooms.
Should the cops have o.kd. it I most certainly would have send it. without charging him a cent.

I dont have a problem bing open about my use of shrooms as a recreational drug. and I mentioned my xperience in taking shrooms 2 try and stopped the pain.

This all was the reasons why I got so evilly slandered.
2 the point I struck back wich I now regret.
Cause I blieve very much in Bob Marley's philosophy in life ''dont let them rip U off by giving U a gun"


Well I took the gun and fired back. Regretfully.
J

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 10th, 2004, 9:11am
There's strange things happening on this board.
I was busy typing when my message when it just got posted. I swear 2 the heavenly Father above.

I might / might not have send it off.
Well  it's done. I quess now I can look forward 2 some lovely peace mail.

On that note I think people should really take it easy with the insults.

I have concluded that some people use this site as a comfort zone whilst under attack. And others use it 2 accomodate their boredom / 2 boost their deflated ego's. Insulting and bing nasty 2 others 2 make yourself look and feel good, has been floating around 4 centuries.

However. we are all here 2 support and uplift each other. And yes sometimes we might not agree with what somebody says / does. Blieve me there are ways of setting the person straight peacefully.

Well what more can I say. I am not sending any mushrooms.
People have been busted.
Hopefully we will b left alone.
There are some real demon possesed people, and I dont just mean the 1 side of their heads / brains but by both.

Tlc4all

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by john123 on Apr 10th, 2004, 9:23am

Quote:
There are some real demon possesed people, and I dont just mean the 1 side of their heads / brains but by both.


Relax...

ADDED AFTER READING BOTH POSTS:
You believe that kind of stuff and you take hallucinigenics!  Can I recommend u stop one or the other?  I would definitely not mix them!
 

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 10th, 2004, 12:00pm
This is precisely what I mean.

At least I can b honest about what I got high on at one stage in my life. Can U do the same.
If U had read my post U would have known that I said I use 2 take shrooms.

And I can think of a million and 1 things 2 say back 2 U and anybody that wish 2 insult me. But I am not going 2. I steeped 2 your level one's that's enough.


Tlc4all

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by john123 on Apr 10th, 2004, 12:38pm

hmmmm....not sure what to say, good luck!




 


Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by jonny on Apr 10th, 2004, 12:41pm
::)

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Pinkfloyd on Apr 10th, 2004, 1:18pm

on 04/10/04 at 12:41:29, jonny wrote:
::)



Well, it's taken many long years but it finally happened.

I actually laughed out loud at one of jonny's posts! [smiley=crackup.gif]

Have a happy Easter everyone!

BobW

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Kevin_M on Apr 10th, 2004, 1:28pm

on 04/10/04 at 09:11:10, tlc4all wrote:
Blieve me there are ways of setting the person straight peacefully.

There are some real demon possesed people, and I dont just mean the 1 side of their heads / brains but by both.

Tlc4all



And this is a fine example.  *edit*  ::)

Kevin M




Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Kevin_M on Apr 10th, 2004, 1:40pm

on 04/10/04 at 13:18:07, Pinkfloyd wrote:
I actually laughed out loud at one of jonny's posts! [smiley=crackup.gif]

Have a happy Easter everyone!

BobW


I can't name all of jonny's posts that I have laughed out loud with, but haven't been looking for the opportunity to laugh at.  You know, kinda don't want to throw stones and all with it not being that humorous to do
so. :)

Kevin M

Easter greetings.


Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 10th, 2004, 3:26pm
I like johnny.

He is King!







Tlc4all

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by jonny on Apr 10th, 2004, 3:39pm

on 04/10/04 at 13:18:07, Pinkfloyd wrote:
I actually laughed out loud at one of jonny's posts!


Dude,
If you suck any harder the garden hose will collapse and we will lose the golf ball ;;D

TLC4All,

Learn how to spell!!

.........................................jonny

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by john123 on Apr 10th, 2004, 3:42pm
jonny, u really could use an h in there.  John

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by jonny on Apr 10th, 2004, 3:49pm

on 04/10/04 at 15:42:07, john123 wrote:
jonny, u really could use an h in there.  John


"H"?............Nah, Its just one extra letter I dont have to deal with.

........................................jonny

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 10th, 2004, 3:49pm
O.k!  Jonny.

Are U really a  witty,  funny, sweet,  kind, peaceful 97yr.old man.






Tlc4all

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by jonny on Apr 10th, 2004, 3:53pm
No

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 10th, 2004, 4:01pm
I left a full stop instead of a question mark.

Please dont crucify me.
Apart from the occasional shit flying my way. I really love life.





Tlc4all

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 10th, 2004, 4:17pm
Sorry?
Shit IWell, then U somethings / somebody else.

Unlike anything / anybody I have been able 2 pinpoint.

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by cathy on Apr 10th, 2004, 4:31pm
TLC are you okay.

Happy Easter all .....Jonny I love you more  ;;D

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Kevin_M on Apr 10th, 2004, 4:39pm

on 04/10/04 at 16:01:55, tlc4all wrote:
I really love life.
Tlc4all


Welcome aboard!


Kevin M

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 10th, 2004, 4:46pm
Sorry I just keep getting it wrong. And blieve me I am
not tripping on anything!

Mayb coffee.

Where was I.

'Jonny'  That I got right. Right?
However, all the rest according 2 U, about U, I was wrong. Right?

What can I say I am human after all.
Apparently we are born into sin and with an inbred ability 2 make mistakes.

Well I quess every now and then I end up bing guilty of 1 / the other.

Tlc4all

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by john123 on Apr 10th, 2004, 5:21pm


Quote:
Apparently we are born into sin and with an inbred ability 2 make mistakes.


This is not an attack but more observation.   I am a buddhist so you probably think I am going to demon-possessed and going to hell  but welcome aboard.   Please try to respect my right to believe differently if not my desire not to hear things like the above.


 

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 10th, 2004, 5:48pm
No,I dont think U are demon possesed.I dont no U well enough 2 conclude that.

And I totally respect your right 2 b / blieve differently from me.

I'm all about that.

And if I may correct U: U are not hearing things but reading them.

I'ts my blieve that there is a slight difference.

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 10th, 2004, 5:55pm
Thanx Cathy!

I'll always b O.k

I can sense U 2, b'cos U'r Sweet.






Tlc2U.

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Rock_Lobster on Apr 10th, 2004, 7:19pm
4t f1R5t 1 7h0ugH7 1t w4z 50m3 |k!nd4 l4m3rz l337 5p34|<.  but it's not.

Rock

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Charlie on Apr 10th, 2004, 8:03pm
Kill me now.  

2 old 4 this. Bleaugh  ::)

Charlie

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by AlienSpaceGuy on Apr 10th, 2004, 10:15pm
Has the policy of this board changed since I last visited?

The posts used to be written in English, but now I see a lot of posts that, although they contain some English words, are littered with numerals and single letters that make no sense.  :-(

Maybe the writer should ask BabelFish (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr) and translate her gibberish to English before posting.

http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s23/smilies-27601.png

ASG

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Kevin_M on Apr 10th, 2004, 11:12pm

on 04/10/04 at 19:19:21, Rock_Lobster wrote:
4t f1R5t 1 7h0ugH7 1t w4z 50m3 |k!nd4 l4m3rz l337 5p34|<.  but it's not.

Rock


About as legible as my boss' memos, but more creative.

Kevin M



Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by jonny on Apr 10th, 2004, 11:13pm

on 04/10/04 at 19:19:21, Rock_Lobster wrote:
4t f1R5t 1 7h0ugH7 1t w4z 50m3 |k!nd4 l4m3rz l337 5p34|<.  but it's not.

Rock


LMMFAO.....LOL ;;D

..........................jonny

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 11th, 2004, 12:02pm



   tlc4all....Do you know Kim?



LindaH

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by brain_cramps on Apr 11th, 2004, 1:08pm

on 04/10/04 at 19:19:21, Rock_Lobster wrote:
4t f1R5t 1 7h0ugH7 1t w4z 50m3 |k!nd4 l4m3rz l337 5p34|<.  but it's not.

Rock

Yikes!   :o     Damn - now my head hurts!




on 04/11/04 at 12:02:57, Linda_Howell wrote:
   tlc4all....Do you know Kim?

LindaH

LMMFAO!     Kimmie! We need some help here!    ;;D

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Charlie on Apr 11th, 2004, 6:16pm
http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/PLZ DIE SIGN.gif

Charlie  ;;D

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 11th, 2004, 7:37pm
Why?

Is she also known 2 have tripped on shrooms in her past?

Answer is no.




Tlc2U

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Cerberus on Apr 11th, 2004, 9:19pm
ya know?
Y'all don't razz Zaira's english this bad. Nor Kimspeak, or anyone else for that matter....WTF? Am I missing something? [smiley=huh.gif]

 Notice that tlc4all's location is south africa and most tribal languages (unless European born) are gutteral in nature and not phonetic like english. So maybe this person is doing the best they can trying to decipher what is typically one of the most difficult languages to learn. :-/ if not, then I'll STFU.
JMHO....Ramon

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 11th, 2004, 10:18pm
I'm proudly South African.

And a hell of a lot better looking than U.

My bet is that U cant even speak properly,
not 2 mention type.
I also bet U suffer from sds. small dick syndrome.
So 2 make yourself feel all macho U go around insulting women.

I strongly suggest U dont get trashed on cheap alcohol whilst interacting with people on this forum.

Right now its 2am in my country I cant sleep bcause I'm
in so much pain.

I log on hoping 2 xperience some kindness.
And what do I  encounter: probably a drunk not a very nice person.

Who-ever U are, blieve me when I say I dont  enjoy saying these things 2 U. I also no that they wont effect U in anyway. U are 2 far gone.  

Your mother must b so ashamed of U. She probably wish 2 God everyday that she aborted U.

Another bit of advice: what U give out, u get back and often double.

One last thing, this is where me having 2 deal with U ends. 4 ever.

So enjoy your bottle and continue mouthing off.
My door is locked 2U.

Just 2 mention 1 other advantage I have over U. I'm very happily married 2 the kind of man that U will never ever b.

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Cerberus on Apr 11th, 2004, 10:35pm
Gee,

I suppose maybe I was wrong for trying to defend you tlc4all.....I had not insulted your speech. This is the thanks I get for standing up for someone I do not know.

 So.....I don't give a rats ASS where you are from or who you are married to, I don't drink and these people are my family ALL of them I will stand up for, they have been there for me at my worst times.

If you are such an ingrate that you take my defense of your typing as an insult ....well then in typical American fashion.....KISS MY ROYAL RED ASS! and leave my family alone.

Damn, I tried to be nice to ya!

Ramon

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Rock_Lobster on Apr 11th, 2004, 10:45pm
'Yes, mother, I did meet her at the tractor pull.  How could you have guessed that?'

Rock

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by bobkip on Apr 11th, 2004, 10:58pm
Oh. She was one of the tractors? Seriously, tic-4all does need an attitude adjustment. So much venom.
Kip

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by 9erfan on Apr 11th, 2004, 11:31pm

on 04/11/04 at 22:18:04, tlc4all wrote:
I'm proudly South African.

And a hell of a lot better looking than U.

My bet is that U cant even speak properly,
not 2 mention type.
I also bet U suffer from sds. small dick syndrome.
So 2 make yourself feel all macho U go around insulting women.

I strongly suggest U dont get trashed on cheap alcohol whilst interacting with people on this forum.

Right now its 2am in my country I cant sleep bcause I'm
in so much pain.

I log on hoping 2 xperience some kindness.
And what do I  encounter: probably a drunk not a very nice person.

Who-ever U are, blieve me when I say I dont  enjoy saying these things 2 U. I also no that they wont effect U in anyway. U are 2 far gone.  

Your mother must b so ashamed of U. She probably wish 2 God everyday that she aborted U.

Another bit of advice: what U give out, u get back and often double.

One last thing, this is where me having 2 deal with U ends. 4 ever.

So enjoy your bottle and continue mouthing off.
My door is locked 2U.

Just 2 mention 1 other advantage I have over U. I'm very happily married 2 the kind of man that U will never ever b.


Hey TLC,

You are a complete moron!!  Everything I have read from you has been totally idiotic!  First you post on the meds board that you will send shrooms to anyone if the "officials" agree to it and now this insulting, classless post!  First of all, what "officials" did you think were going to let you ship shrooms to the U.S?  Are you that stupid?
Then, Ramon tries to stick up for you because everyone else was getting DAMN SICK of you typing with your 2's and your U's like a 10-year-old!  And how do you respond?  Unbelievable!  Sounds to me like you are still doing some heavy-duty drugs for recreational purposes.  You might want to get off those & seek some therapy.
People who insult members of this family (especially someone as caring as Ramon/Cerebus) need to find another board to post on.
I rarely go off on anyone here, but you (spelled y-o-u) are a sick individual who has no business posting this kind of crap here.

Virginia


Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Mark C on Apr 11th, 2004, 11:41pm
Don't feed theTrolls (http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm)

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by bobkip on Apr 12th, 2004, 12:00am
Thanks Mark. And do trolls also take a meaningful thread and completely subvert it to the point that you have absolutely no clue as to what the original was?
Kip

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Charlie on Apr 12th, 2004, 12:10am
http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/HEY SIGN.png

Everybody calm down dammit. Don't overdo it. It's supposed to be fun. No room for paranoia here. That's all mine. I know you're all against me.

Charlie

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Kevin_M on Apr 12th, 2004, 12:28am
tlc4all,

Cerberus did not have intentions of insulting you.  Your interpretation of his post neglected to see he attempted to welcome and integrate you as a cluster sufferer, showing acceptance.  Your assumed perception and thoughts of him are not in line with reality.  In your mind you have painted him in a light which we know is incorrect and below what he deserves.  Your's is a rather harsh judgement which is not true or fair to him.  

Consider that the universal disagreement with your word are not unfounded.

It would be best to reconsider your comments, or lose the attempted understanding patience with which he
was extending toward you.

That would be appreciated.  Your attack was not in any way acceptably received, as will be ABUNDANTLY be made known.  Undeniably.

Kevin M


 

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 12th, 2004, 1:26am
First of all, I don't really care what U / anybody think of
me.
The part about bing a moron.
Girlfriend, I'm a lot smarter than U in so many different ways. Blieve that.

As 4 my "heavy duty" drug use i'ts all in your mind.
What's your dark secrets?

And as far as everybody getting ticked off with my 2s & 4s & Us 2 the point that they keep insulting me.

About me sending shrooms, maybe that was naive.
Shoot me!

If U read all my post like U claim U did.
U clearly would have noticed that I begged people 2 not insult each other / me.

Instead I just kept getting bombarded with insults.
The time earlier was 5am and not 2am.

It's now 6:28am in my country.
I have not closed my eye's. I am now recovering from my 3rd. attack 2day.

So earlier when I logged on I was looking 4 comfort.
Not 2 read all that crap about me and my country.
I strongly suggest U go back and read what he wrote.
He definately was not my knight in shining armour.

It is very interresting what happens when somebody actually decides that they tired of bing the punching bag.
And strike back.

Yes I can b nasty 2.
I spend my life trying 2 not b though.
And I can honestly say up till now,I dont remember when last I had 2 b.

U of course wont blieve that, course after all I'm just a drug addict? Right?  Well U wrong!

U no, I feel like introducing the real me. This person.
I could not b bothered though. Particularly since it wont make a difference.

Well, I wont stand 4 anybody insulting me.
And I'll probably get piss off again and insult him right back.

And my bet is that the clan will all unite and come 2 poor what's his name? defence, and blow me right out of the water.

Just like U busy doing.

DJ please delete all my personal information.

I am a chronic and I will hope and pray that one day I when I "visit" this sight, somebody would have come up with a cure. That would b so amaging.
The hope of discovering that was the motivation bhind tapping in2 this site.

2 all the people that were kind 2 me: God bless U all.
2 those that were not: U guys have a task ahead of U.
2 find another kicking bag.

Sorry about those horrible things I said. It took a lot out of me 2 c it through. Blieve it or not.

Tlc4all

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by tlc4all on Apr 12th, 2004, 1:42am
Kevin U'r a kind man.

I posted my post b4 reading your's.
I'ts all O.k. Really.

In my country winter has just started.
I'm an artist and need 2 start stocking up work 2 sell in Summer.

So I'll b spending my nights painting instead of causing trouble / receiving it.

I will not login again.

tlc4all

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by KingOfPain on Apr 12th, 2004, 2:58am


on 04/10/04 at 08:44:52, tlc4all wrote:
This all was the reasons why I got so evilly slandered.
2 the point I struck back wich I now regret.
Cause I blieve very much in Bob Marley's philosophy in life ''dont let them rip U off by giving U a gun"



Hey, tlc4all,

1st off,
If you're going to quote Robert Nesta........
please try to quote him right.

2nd,
From what I've seen you have no clue as to the meaning of reggae,
or Marley's "philosophy in life" (as you put it).......
I can tell that by your comments & opinions
throughout this thread.

3rd,
Good riddance! With comments like these:
(& I quote you tlc4all)

" I also bet U suffer from sds. small dick syndrome. "

" Your mother must b so ashamed of U. She probably wish 2 God everyday that she aborted U. "


I don't want or need you around Clusterville.

I can't & won't speak for the rest, but I can
have an (above) opinion..... God Bless America!


**Sorry folks, I normally don't do this negative public comment thing........but this person forced my hand.

Don't mess with Bob or my Clusterville family.


>:(



Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by bobkip on Apr 12th, 2004, 3:50am
Uhh... Does anyone else get the feeling we are dealing with a child here?
Kip

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by KingOfPain on Apr 12th, 2004, 7:39am


on 04/12/04 at 01:26:25, tlc4all wrote:
The part about bing a moron.
Girlfriend, I'm a lot smarter than U in so many different ways. Blieve that.


Tlc4all



 [smiley=huh.gif]

 
 ::)




Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Pegase on Apr 12th, 2004, 8:59am
What a weird thread... :(

It looks like there's some people who like to be spanked... :o And even ask for more...

Funny how people react under an attack...

Peace and chill out

Pegase


Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by brain_cramps on Apr 12th, 2004, 9:00am

on 04/12/04 at 02:58:47, KingOfPain wrote:
1st off,
If you're going to quote Robert Nesta........
please try to quote him right.

2nd,
From what I've seen you have no clue as to the meaning of reggae, or Marley's "philosophy in life" (as you put it).......
I can tell that by your comments & opinions
throughout this thread.


Don't mess with Bob or my Clusterville family.


Marley's "philosophy in life", while having many varied facets, is quite similar to the motto of the country of Jamaica.  

"Out of many, one people."

This means that while there are people of many different cultures that make up Jamaica, they are all Jamaican.

Bob thought along these lines except on a much more global scale.  "One Love, One Heart"

I think the same holds true for this family.  Although we are from a number of countries, religions, and walks of life, we still have one thing in common: cluster headaches.

While most of us occasionally temporarily forget that, hopefully we never permanently lose that perspective.  (This includes you too, tlc4all)

Thanks for the reminder, Steve

grant





P.S.  I know, I know...  just a bit of incoherent babbling before I get my early-morning caffeine fix.    ;)

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by 9erfan on Apr 12th, 2004, 11:58am
GOOD RIDDANCE!

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Cerberus on Apr 12th, 2004, 12:28pm
[smiley=huh.gif] I still don't understand what I originally said that was considered a personal attack????? [smiley=huh.gif]

 would somebody please clarify? Non-sequitur your facts are uncoordinated......good grief. [smiley=ohjez.gif]

 was it the fact that most african laguages are f a gutteral nature? Its true the word "Gutteral" only means that they are not phonetic.  I don't get it? [smiley=huh.gif]

 And as to Bob Marley (which had said nothing of before) Mr. Marley (admittedly by all) was a great man a revolutionary in his thinking....however, he was not an advocate of non-violence in his native Jamaica and fought with the tenacity rivaled only by today's terrorist standards. Yes, he put his weapons down and fled to America but in Jamaica was the leader of a violent rebel group fighting for equal rights for his kind. (this is not a slam either just factual evidence)

 Hate breeds hate folks........I still have no idea what I said that so pissed off this woman/child whatever...and I will continue to go to bat for anyone deserving of my kindness, the rest of ya have been there for me in my times of need and I merely tried to pay that kindness forward to this person.......apparently she does not suffer enough to understand that....My bad I thought the pain of CH would be enough suffering for one person. I suppose not cause she still attacks my character which is fine, I and the rest of you know what kind of person I am.

drag,
Ramon

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Charlie on Apr 12th, 2004, 1:32pm
Nobody insulted you. We all go through some silly but rarely malicious beatings here. Mostly, like the one here it's meant to be that way.

Try to stick around. You'll be pleasantly surprised.

Charlie

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 12th, 2004, 1:54pm
Man....and I thought I got into trouble when I barked at Jonny!!!!!


                             -Freddy

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by brain_cramps on Apr 12th, 2004, 6:47pm

on 04/12/04 at 12:28:03, Cerberus wrote:
...Yes, he put his weapons down and fled to America but in Jamaica was the leader of a violent rebel group fighting for equal rights for his kind. (this is not a slam either just factual evidence)


BWAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!       [smiley=crackup.gif]

Just because members of a rebel group respected/admired the lyrics of his music IN NO WAY makes him the leader of that group.  He had no connection with any militant group whatsoever.

Look it up!

still chuckling,
grant        [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by fubar on Apr 12th, 2004, 8:58pm
Now that tlc is gone, I can post a comment secure in the knowledge that I will be spared the mental anguish of realizing I am far too behind in evolution to understand her deep, meaningful contributions to cluster knowledge via her insightful posts.

Wow.  Holy moly.  This 4 pager really had me all confuxored.  I tried like hell to make sense of her revelations and insights, but alas I fear I must spend more time in solitude and silence contemplating the impossible.  Only then might I have a flicker of hope.

The scary part?  This is a person completely convinced that she was making sense!  What kind of psychosis (or vast intelligence?) produces such delusions?  I stand (sit, actually) in awe.

The almost random way that ideas were spewed forth, and the poor grammar were indicative of very limited schooling, possibly a pre-teen or young teen.  It is not indicative of English as a second language.  In fact, the opposite is true.  I would say this person uses English as their first language.  The spelling was almost the best part.  Indicates a true adherence to a cliquey custom-crafted h4x0r-speak dialect, making me wonder if this person isn't somehow related to the recent incidents at OUCH (UK) and Canada.  Just a hunch.  We're talking about a person with the right amount of instability, and probably the right skills (sorry, skillz) or connections to do such a thing, although I can't pinpoint a motive.

Troll.




Title: It's sad when cousins marry......
Post by Mr.Happy on Apr 12th, 2004, 9:21pm
Oh Poo. She/He/It was a Nit from the Git. Being polite and giving the benefit of the doubt is driving my bucking fonkers. This thread started out as a shroom blast, and the next thing you know, we're in a series of diatribes that made Kim-Speak seem like entry level English.
Whoever this person is/was/were, there's nothing here for them.
Y'all need to live closer to the damned Amish.

Nuthin like a good "Shunning,"
RJ

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by HypnoticFreddy on Apr 12th, 2004, 9:59pm
You know...a few weeks ago I posted a message (or 2 or 3) that ruffled a few peoples feathers, so I stopped posting for a little over a week.

I kept visiting the site and reading, but just tried to get a better feel for the atmosphere 'round here.

Since then I have posted, and thus far, I haven't gotten my rump roasted, and even if I do, I will laugh.

I mean I did start a thread some weeks ago about CH and Dating.

                                   -Freddy

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by KingOfPain on Apr 12th, 2004, 10:43pm

Just some history.......

http://www.bobmarley.com/life/trenchtown/

I will continue to update this post with info
as time allows.


One Love.


http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_4_104v.gif




Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Cerberus on Apr 13th, 2004, 12:30am
I was apparently wrong about the Venerable Mr. Marleys political offiliations, I thought I had remembered seeing a photo of the man with firearms in hand and wearing a bandoliero.....I may have mis-represented this seemingly non-existant memory or confused it with the photo of someone else....This does not diminish my love of his music (In which his life's outlook was clearly stated) and the admiration of Reggae in general....
I screwed up, I admit it, my bust......but was the mockery necessary?

 Ramon

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by ZAIRA on Apr 13th, 2004, 4:07pm

on 04/11/04 at 21:19:24, Cerberus wrote:
ya know?
Y'all don't razz Zaira's english this bad. Nor Kimspeak, or anyone else for that matter....WTF? Am I missing something? [smiley=huh.gif]

 Notice that tlc4all's location is south africa and most tribal languages (unless European born) are gutteral in nature and not phonetic like english. So maybe this person is doing the best they can trying to decipher what is typically one of the most difficult languages to learn. :-/ if not, then I'll STFU.
JMHO....Ramon



[smiley=bigguns.gif]

;;D Honestly I always want to learn, also from my mistakes. And of sure I don’t stop in writing in English because I have fear to make a bad figure in front of you, or because I have fear that someone “razz” my English  [smiley=smug.gif]. Remember that the mistakes are negative if they prevent something. Therefore I think that my mistakes can be only positive, because every time I am wrong,  I learn something new  ;)... And I make you smile, this is syntony!  ;;D

Love, Zaira







Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by BobG on Apr 13th, 2004, 4:42pm
Zaira,
I hope nobody has "razzed" your English. I like the sexy way European women speak in English. Especially the Italian Ladies.  ;)

After I've learned to speak and write perfect Italian then I"ll "razz" you.

Title: Re: It's sad when cousins marry......
Post by ckelly181 on Apr 13th, 2004, 5:09pm

on 04/12/04 at 21:21:07, Mr.Happy wrote:
Y'all need to live closer to the damned Amish.

Nuthin like a good "Shunning,"
RJ


[smiley=crackup.gif] Best quote on this thread...

Chris

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Cerberus on Apr 13th, 2004, 6:23pm

Quote:
After I've learned to speak and write perfect Italian then I"ll "razz" you.


agreed.

:-*
Ramon

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by kimh on Apr 13th, 2004, 6:38pm
I did not do it.  It waren't me. :D

HOLEY SHIT!

what folks doo wit the langage.  Tsk.  Tsk.

footy. :D

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by jonny on Apr 13th, 2004, 6:43pm

on 04/13/04 at 18:38:59, kimh wrote:
footy. :D


Nice feet ;;D

............................jonny

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Charlie on Apr 13th, 2004, 9:18pm
http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/WEIRD THREAD SMILEY.gif

Charlie    :o

Title: Re: It's a sad thing ....
Post by Mark C on Apr 13th, 2004, 11:52pm
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