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(Message started by: hopefull on Apr 6^th, 2004, 7:40pm)

Title: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by hopefull on Apr 6^th, 2004, 7:40pm

He thinks once my uterus is gone ...the headaches will be gone....if only that were true!!!...guys not sure what you'd have to remove...

Sorry I just thought that was soooo funny!!!...it was all I could do to not laugh in his face....leave it to a man!!!

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by t_h_b on Apr 6^th, 2004, 7:52pm

Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, surgeons gotta operate....

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by bobkip on Apr 6^th, 2004, 7:57pm

Welllllll..... If they removed my head I think the CH would probably stop. Maybe.
Kip

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Karla on Apr 6^th, 2004, 8:05pm

I had a complete hysterectomy and it didn't do a thing to stop my ch.

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by BobG on Apr 6^th, 2004, 8:17pm

I asked my gyno how much he charges for a complete hysterectomy. He said his Mercedes dealer quoted $68,950.

I told him I'd rip his uterus out for the price of a Chevy.

I hope my gyno and his dealer get cluster headaches.

BobetteG

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by bobkip on Apr 6^th, 2004, 8:18pm

Aw shit, Karla. And I was all set to go out and get a uterus.
Kip

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Melissa on Apr 6^th, 2004, 9:44pm

Like I said before, I think the men should dig the holes.

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Renee on Apr 6^th, 2004, 10:25pm

I had the hysterectomy, still had CH..BUT....I've been at the highest level of estrogen replacement therapy for 5 years now and the past 6 months have been the worst CH period for me ever. I noticed last week that my worst CH's were on Tuesdays, the day I change my hormone patch, so I didn't change it! Called the gyno and she told me to stop the patch cold turkey until after I see the neuro on thursday and we might go back to a very low level patch but the gyno said TOO MUCH estrogen can cause vascular headaches.

guys....take off those patches!!!

serious...if you're on HRT, consider lowering the dose to see if it helps...has helped me in the last week.

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by t_h_b on Apr 6^th, 2004, 10:34pm

Your Gyno. is a throwback the late 1800's. Hysterectomy cures menstrual madness, clusterheadaches, and flat feet.

Introduction

Severe premenstrual syndrome (PMS) is a poorly understood collection of cyclical symptoms, which cause considerable psychological and physical distress. The psychological symptoms of depression, loss of energy, irritability, loss of libido and abnormal behaviour as well as the physical symptoms of headaches, breast discomfort and abdominal bloating may occur for up to 14 days each month. There may also be associated menstrual problems, pelvic pain, menstrual headaches and the woman may only enjoy as few as 7 good days per month. It is obvious that the symptoms mentioned can have a significant impact on the day-to-day functioning of affected women. It is estimated that up to 95% of women have some form of PMS but in about 5% of women of reproductive age they will be affected severely with disruption of their daily activities[1]. Considering these figures it is disturbing that many of the consultations at our specialist PMS clinics start with women saying that for many years they have been told by everyone, including the family physician, that there are no treatments available and that they should simply "live with it". In addition many commonly used treatments only make the symptoms worse.

The exact cause is uncertain but fundamentally it is due to the hormonal or biochemical changes, whatever they are, and the resulting complex interaction between ovarian steroids and neuro-endocrinological factors that occur with ovulation. This combination produces these varied symptoms in women who are somehow vulnerable to changes in their normal hormone levels. These cyclical chemical changes, probably due to progesterone or one of its metabolites, produce the cyclical symptoms of PMS.

History

This condition is mentioned in the fourth century BC by Hippocrates but became a medical epidemic in the nineteenth century. Victorian physicians were aware of menstrual madness, hysteria, chlorosis, ovarian mania, as well as the commonplace neurasthenia. In the 1870's Maudsley[2] , the most distinguished psychiatrist of the time, wrote " . . . The monthly activity of the ovaries which marks the advent of puberty in women has a notable effect upon the mind and body; wherefore it may become an important cause of mental and physical derangement . . ." This was somehow recognised, rightly or wrongly, to be due to the ovaries and bilateral oophorecotomy - Battey's operation[3] - was performed in tens of thousands of women in North America and Britain. Longo[4] , in his brilliant essay on the decline of Battey's operation, posed the question whether it worked. Of course they had no knowledge of osteoporosis and the devastation of long-term oestrogen deficiency, therefore, on balance the operation was not helpful long-term but probably did, as was claimed, cure the "menstrual/ovarian madness". The essential logic of this operation was to remove cyclical ovarian function but happily this can now effectively be achieved by simpler medical therapy. Only in 1931 was the phrase 'premenstrual tension' introduced by Frank [5], who described 15 women with the typical symptoms of PMS as we know it. Greene and Dalton extended the definition to 'premenstrual syndrome' in 1953[6] , recognising the wider range of symptoms.

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Charlie on Apr 7^th, 2004, 2:07am

I hope other clusterheads read similar posts before letting these ghouls carve out pieces of their anatomy.

Sounds like 19th century medicine to me.

Yikes.

Charlie

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by sandie99 on Apr 7^th, 2004, 5:41am

Docs! What do they know? Hmm... I've must have help docs get some nice cars by now, darn!

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by TomM on Apr 7^th, 2004, 6:21am

on 04/06/04 at 20:17:47, BobG wrote:

No self respecting gyno drives a $68K Benz. [smiley=confused.gif] The S500 is a mere $83,420 MSRP Http://www.mbusa.com/brand/container.jsp?/models/main.jsp&modelCode=S500V. [smiley=thumb.gif]
Bob--I know you are a car guy...do you have any more hot rod links?
TomM

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by thomas on Apr 7^th, 2004, 8:09am

Well I never had a uterus to begin with, so why do I get ch?

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Jeepgun on Apr 7^th, 2004, 9:09am

Damn... My vascectomy didn't do ANYTHING for my cluster headaches! (or my over-active libido either, for THAT matter!) ;;D

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by thomas on Apr 7^th, 2004, 9:15am

on 04/07/04 at 09:09:45, Jeepgun wrote:

Damn... My vascectomy didn't do ANYTHING for my cluster headaches! (or my over-active libido either, for THAT matter!) ;;D

TMI my brother, TMI. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Samantha_Smith on Apr 7^th, 2004, 10:27am

My old nuero told me that if I didn't talk to a gyno about getting a hysterectomy then he would withhold pain medication from me. I was 27 years old at the time, unmarried and had just suffered through a horrific miscarriage. Bastard! Oh I know that there is a special place in hell waiting just for him!!!!

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Jeepgun on Apr 7^th, 2004, 10:42am

Samantha, that's horrible.... I am so sorry... Jeez, your neuro was a real dick. >:( :'( :(

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Samantha_Smith on Apr 7^th, 2004, 10:57am

My only regret was that I didn't take a tape recorder to that appt or the ones after that. I think it might have a made a nice article for the local newspaper or better yet a story for the 6 o'clock local news. Well, he's not my neuro anymore and that's all that matters.

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by aprilbee on Apr 7^th, 2004, 12:10pm

That is absolutely horrible, I am so thankful for the wonderful docs I have!!

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by BobG on Apr 7^th, 2004, 2:04pm

on 04/07/04 at 06:21:24, TomM wrote:

Bob--I know you are a car guy...do you have any more hot rod links?

Uterus' to hot rods! I love this place ;;D

Click this. This red roadster on the left end of the circle of cars is mine. Well...not really. Mine is white.
http://www.tbuckets.com/

Hot rod message board that I watch
http://www.nationaltbucketalliance.com/

Want to build a hot rod? This is a good place to start.
http://www.spiritcars.com/

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by t_h_b on Apr 7^th, 2004, 7:10pm

on 04/07/04 at 09:09:45, Jeepgun wrote:

Damn... My vascectomy didn't do ANYTHING for my cluster headaches! (or my over-active libido either, for THAT matter!) ;;D

The cure you're looking for is a bilateral orchiectomy. A vasectomy isn't really equivalent to a hysterectomy.

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Sean_C on Apr 7^th, 2004, 8:12pm

Man......I'm glad I have balls................... ;;D

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Jeepgun on Apr 8^th, 2004, 9:14am

on 04/07/04 at 19:10:35, t_h_b wrote:

The cure you're looking for is a bilateral orchiectomy. A vasectomy isn't really equivalent to a hysterectomy.

Um.... No thank you. *shudder* (Besides, I don't WANT a cure for my over-active libido. I quite enjoy it!) ;;D

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Pegase on Apr 8^th, 2004, 9:44am

My father is a Gyno... I'll aked him how to do an hysterectomy.... maybe i can do it for free to all my fellow female cluster... doh;-)

Pegase

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by Jeepgun on Apr 8^th, 2004, 9:56am

on 04/08/04 at 09:44:32, Pegase wrote:

My father is a Gyno... I'll aked him how to do an hysterectomy.... maybe i can do it for free to all my fellow female cluster... doh;-)

Pegase

That's sure to make you a real popular guy at conventions, parties, and other social gatherings. ;;D

Title: Re: Gyno's cure for CH
Post by TomM on Apr 8^th, 2004, 11:05am

on 04/07/04 at 10:27:12, Samantha_Smith wrote:

Smantha--I got 3 words for that prick...Smith & Wesson.
TomM