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Title: Passion of the Christ Post by ChrisUhl on Apr 6th, 2004, 2:15am Hey guys Well, here in Denmark we're a little slow. So this weekend we had the premier for Passion of the Christ (guess it's been available to the rest of you for weeks, maybe months). Anyway, there's one scene that reminds me somewhat of a cluster attack. You know where the Christ gets the crown of thorns smashed into his scull? Looks pretty nasty doesn't it? Well, I'm almost certain that when I get my next attack I will play this scene for my inner eye. Did anyone like the movie? And find the violence justified? For my account I think it was good - at least it made me think about religion. Which is not something I often do. Chris out |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Superpain on Apr 6th, 2004, 2:22am I haven't seen it... But it must be pretty moving. There are a few stories here in the states, one of which is here in Phoenix, of people turning themselves in for unsolved crimes that they are responsible for, after seeing it... I think I'm gonna wait about 7 yrs, for any statute's of limitation to expire before I see it. Just in case... ;) |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by ClusterChuck on Apr 6th, 2004, 2:58am I have not seen it yet, but plan to. BTW, I hope everyone (those that are Jewish) had a good first day of Passover. Chuck (who did NOT prepare a seder!) |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by sandie99 on Apr 6th, 2004, 6:52am I have seen bits of the film when I saw a documentary about Mel Gibson, but to be honest, there's a film I won't be seeing. I have read my Bible and believe in God, but there's a limit how much suffering I want to see on screen. When I go to the movies, I want to laugh. PFdays, sandie99 |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by echo on Apr 6th, 2004, 7:52am Saw the movie with my wife and sons. Very powerful, my wife and sons teared throughout the movie, and yes, there were times I leaked myself. I plan to see the movie again in next few weeks. If it ever comes out on DVD I will most certainly add it to the library. |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Karla on Apr 6th, 2004, 12:46pm Being a ministers wife we found the movie to be very close to scripture and very moving. I cried through the whole movie. To think that he went through all of that just so our sins could be forgiven. It was unthinkable to imagine that was his plan all along. I felt so grateful and blessed to have a God that loves me so much. I definetly plan on adding the DVD to my collection as well if and when it comes out. |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 6th, 2004, 12:56pm I saw the movie a few weeks ago, and now that you've mentioned the scene with the crown of thorns being smashed into his skull, I will be thinking of that with every hit. :'( LindaH |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by vig on Apr 6th, 2004, 1:05pm Isn't Mel Gibson's other passion the 3 Stooges? |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Charlie on Apr 6th, 2004, 2:04pm Haven't seen this yet. Too cheap anyway. I wait for stuff like this to come on HBO. Hopefully it will be there. The Sopranos need all the help they can get this year. Chuck: Being freed from clusters would be right up there on my list too. You don't suppose Matzoh is an antidote? :o Pesky Charlie 8) |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by ClusterChuck on Apr 6th, 2004, 2:16pm on 04/06/04 at 14:04:51, Charlie wrote:
Don't I wish it was! If that was true, this Matzoh ball soup glutton would not have a hit for the next 3,472 years! Going to a seder tonight and hope to have LOTS of Matzoh balls, just to see if they might work, doncha know. Chuck |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by broomhilda on Apr 6th, 2004, 2:21pm Chuck, hate to be the bearer of bad news but Matzah does not cure CH! Tried and true last night, I ate the whole thing, could not move for a few hours but then...I gave birth to a Matza ball out of my right eye LOL!!!!! Have a great sedar, and Happy Passover! ;) Andrea, who has not seen this movie ;) |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by ClusterChuck on Apr 6th, 2004, 2:27pm on 04/06/04 at 14:21:15, broomhilda wrote:
Well, Andrea, as we all know, something that does not work for one, might work for another, so in the interest of furthering the research into possible cures, I will make the sacrafice and see if it will work for me. (Even though it has not worked in the past, who knows? This time might be different!) Oh the things I am forced to do to further the research! Chuck |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by broomhilda on Apr 6th, 2004, 2:50pm Ah a good hypothesis requires research and may be your findings will show a cure! Please submit stats and conclusions asap! ps- guess where I hid the Matzah LOL! |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Cerberus on Apr 6th, 2004, 3:27pm I've seen the film, I found the historical and biblical accuracy to be quite outstanding. The graphic nature of the violence portrayed in the film only added to the emotion of the film. Frankly, if you have/prefer a watered down vision of the life of Christ then this film isn't for you. I personally viewed the film to be a very accurate portrayal of what would have happened during the time period. Some folks can't accept that, and the reason the Jewish community raised such a stink about it is because they do not recognise Christ as the Messiah and the film as a result of those beliefs made the Jewish look bad socially. Again, this was a brutal and oppressive time period for almost every nation and/or religon, so regardless of whether or not your faith looks bad in the films representation is irrelevant. It was historically accurate. Ramon |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Elaine on Apr 6th, 2004, 4:08pm That is one movie I think I will pass up. I don't think my heart could take it. |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Charlie on Apr 6th, 2004, 4:20pm Quote:
Impossible to know. They tended to burn the libraries. Charlies |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Jeepgun on Apr 7th, 2004, 12:05pm I find the entire thing to be abhorrent, offensive, and barbaric. I don't see one shred of love in the torture, murder, and mutilation of another living creature. Even Jesus cried out, "Why hast thou forsaken me!?" and asked that "this cup" be taken from him. That doesn't sound like a man willing to be a sacrificial lamb for the sins of the world. It sounds like a man who has been forced into an horrific fate that he didn't want any part of. Then again, I don't subscribe to Christianity, but I wonder if anyone ever stops to think that if Jesus returned to Earth, the last thing he'd want to see would be a cross??? :'( The concept of a messiah sent by God to die for the world and rise again is not unique or original to Christianity, by the way. I have no axe to grind with Christianity at all, and I believe that people should be free to follow whatever religion they choose, but I really don't understand the controversy over Gibson's film. (On a slightly less reverent note, I was looking at a crucifix once, and thought, "You know, Jesus really had some GREAT abs!") :-X :-/ (sorry... sorry...) |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by ckelly181 on Apr 7th, 2004, 12:53pm on 04/06/04 at 13:05:23, vig wrote:
Tooo[smiley=crackup.gif]oooo funny! That one goes up on the quote wall... Very nice. |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by 9erfan on Apr 7th, 2004, 1:13pm I saw the film on opening day. It was an incredible experience and I cried almost throughout the entire film. I didn't feel like I was watching a movie, I felt as if I was there. I find it ironic when people complain about the violence but most do not blink an eye when going to mainstream R rated movies with gratuitous violence throughout. I know that I am not deserving of the love that Christ has for us, but I'm grateful that he does. |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Jeepgun on Apr 7th, 2004, 1:18pm on 04/07/04 at 13:13:20, 9erfan wrote:
Yes you are. God's love is unconditional and far beyond anything we could ever hope to fathom in our limited, dualistic, human consciousness. |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Melissa on Apr 7th, 2004, 1:37pm Well, I haven't seen the movie yet because I am going to wait till it comes out in the video store. I am sort of afraid to watch it, because I cannot stand movies where someone is being hurt physically as well as mentally. I could only watch about 5 min. of Saving Private Ryan, and I had to leave the room (hubby was watching it at the time). I tend to feel the hurt they feel, and that goes right down to my very being. Perhaps that's why I usually rent comedies or action flicks? Anyhow, being Methodist myself, I have always found my religious history (as well as ALL religions) fascinating, so I am quite interested. :)mel |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Jeepgun on Apr 7th, 2004, 3:06pm I feel the same way, Melissa. After growing up in a violently abusive household, fighting all the time when I was a kid, doing six years in the Army as a medic, and going to two wars, I'm fed up with violence. Just... utterly sick to death of it. *sigh* :-[ :( The Muslims, Christians, Jews, and so many other religions all agree that God is love. If people lived that spirit of their faiths, the world would be a less bloody and violent place. |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Leesa on Apr 7th, 2004, 3:57pm My boys saw it not long after it came to town and they both said it was very good, bloody but good. My boys dont get rattled by too much with all the horror movies they have watched over the year but this movie really hit home for them. They went with the church they belong to and John (whom is the oldest) said "Mom grown men were crying and so was I" I for one will see it when it hits DVD till then Im going to wait only cuz its 7.50 to go!! :o I have no baby sitter either. Being a Catholic my self, my priest and I have long talks about what happened according to the Bible. I for one dont like the thought of someone being hurt in anyway, but the fact remains God is love and Jeep your right "If people lived that spirit of their faiths, the world would be a less bloody and violent place." Thats just [smiley=twocents.gif] for what its worth. Leesa |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Charlie on Apr 7th, 2004, 10:51pm So the Stooges are another trinity then?.... ::) 8) Jesus wouldn't like this movie? Probably not but hey... Doesn't look like something high on my list anyway, but religion is responsible for more bloodbaths and misery than anything so it probably has to be messy. It's a shame if that was just to sell the film. (Don't confuse religion with faith. Two different animals) The older I get the less I enjoy blood on film. It's okay up to a point but too many are sold by body count. 1-1/2 hours of nothing but gore can't be good for anybody. I'm at Turner Classics more and more. Lotta yakking. I like that. Give me Inspector Clouseau any day. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Mr.Happy on Apr 8th, 2004, 1:26am on 04/07/04 at 22:51:17, Charlie wrote:
Yup. When God's don't match, there's been historical hell to pay. Quote:
Chaz, if nothing else, you sure do have a way with the ladies. I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell -- you see, I have friends in both places. RJ PS: I read the book. I've always preferred a surprise ending...... |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Cerberus on Apr 8th, 2004, 10:57am Quote at the end of woobie's e-mails... "Men never do evil so cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" - Blaise Pascal Ramon |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by floridian on Apr 8th, 2004, 11:14am Quote:
There is another Pink Panther movie in the works - Steve Martin as Inspector Clouseau!! |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Charlie on Apr 8th, 2004, 3:24pm Really? Cool. He's the man for it with his physical comedy. All he has to do is to get me to forget Peter Sellers. :o Charlie |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by kamccran on Apr 9th, 2004, 3:53pm I saw the movie the first day it came out over here.. Must admit that I wasn't really sure what to expect as I hadn't seen many commercials for it or anything.. I thought maybe it would be Jesus' life story or something, so I was kind of surprised to find out that it was 2 hours of how they torured and killed him.. Yes, parts of it made me want to cry, but for the most part, I just wanted to be sick, and at one point I was incredibly close to walking out of the movie theatre. I mean, really, there's no need for all this violence in movies - I'm not just talking about in 'Passion', but in any movie. I'm not a fan of violence. There's enough of it in the real world, why do we need to watch movies and TV shows about it as well? Seems kind of odd. (It's rated R, right? Over here it's rated B - suitable for 15 year olds, so I wasn't expecting much violence or anything before I went into the theatre.) I realise that it is supposed to be 'historically correct' (but then they all said 'Braveheart', 'U-571' and goodness knows how many others are historically correct, right?) but I do not understand why Gibson felt the need to show it in a movie... It all seems a bit tacky to me... I don't mean any of this in an offensive way by the way, just stating my opinion.. I am Christian.. but not.. devout.. if that's the word to use. It's just a shame because I can imagine it being nominated for/winning plenty of awards at the next movie award ceremony (Oscars, perhaps?) which.. I don't know.. if it gets more people to consider Religion then I suppose that is a good aspect of it, but I don't think that Jesus suffering for everyone should be exploited and made for commercial benefit... Oh ok, if someone could just explain something to me, please? (I didn't realise the movie wasn't spoken in English until I got into the theatre, and had to read Spanish subtitles the whole time.. that was interesting!) The main thing that confused me was how there was basically one man who wanted Jesus killed, right? And lots of people agreed with him, but then everyone started to see that it was wrong, that he shouldn't be killed? So.. why did they continue to torture and kill him? Unless I got that all completely wrong.. but that confused me somewhat! |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Woobie on Apr 9th, 2004, 4:02pm Mama always told me never to talk with friends about religion, politics, and how much money you make. I think that was the only thing she ever told me that made sense. I love you guys... Tina |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by john123 on Apr 9th, 2004, 4:07pm agreed! |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Charlie on Apr 9th, 2004, 8:59pm The violence in movies is way over the top for me but it's everyone's right to see it. I haven't see this yet. It sounds rough. They really have little idea what went on then. There are few if any corroborating records until many years after the fact, the last I read. Crucifixion itself was not at all unusual. It was a common Roman practice. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Mr.Happy on Apr 9th, 2004, 10:16pm When ya read the book first, it really ruins the plot. Oh well, RJ |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Jayne on Apr 10th, 2004, 2:30pm http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4006714550&category=307&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1 ha ha....look what I found |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by jonny on Apr 10th, 2004, 2:43pm on 04/10/04 at 14:30:09, Jayne wrote:
Great...A CD full of crap ;;D .................................jonny |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Mac on Apr 10th, 2004, 3:11pm I'm not a religious person at all but I thought this was funny if not accurate. ;) http://cagle.slate.msn.com//working/040222/lester.gif |
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Title: Re: Passion of the Christ Post by Jeepgun on Apr 10th, 2004, 5:15pm ROFLMAO!!! |
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