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(Message started by: juvy on Jan 5^th, 2004, 5:13pm)

Title: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by juvy on Jan 5^th, 2004, 5:13pm

Hey all,

Does any one know what packing your head in ice until your head goes numb does to the brain?

yes I'm back to annoy you all. hopefully for a much longer session this time. before I left for a nice relaxing vacation in Texas. I was hit really hard the weekend before we left. After exhausting all my meds the only thing that finally killed the attack was surrounding my head in ice packs until I literally numbed the brain of all feeling.

Anyone out there know the repercussions of this? regardless i'm going to go with what works but I would also like to know what this "treatment" is doing to my brain. i have very little brains cells as it is.

I hope this finds you all well.

Cheers,
~Juvy

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Hirvimaki on Jan 5^th, 2004, 5:17pm

Yikes!

Sadly, I have nothing constructive to contribute to this thread.

But, YIKES!

Hirvimaki

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Paigelle on Jan 5^th, 2004, 5:34pm

I have never thought of any repurcussions from the ice packs. Maybe though, it will freeze the little brain cells you have left and preserve them for later use.

I wouldn't think that it would do much harm, I don't think it would cause hypothermia.

I don't know, I don't even know why I am posting.

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Little Deb on Jan 5^th, 2004, 5:38pm

Are your ears blue???? No???? You're good.

You could always ask jonny if sitting his _ss in a snow bank affected HIS brain.......

just a thought....little deb

(luv ya ole' blue balls jonny! ;;D)

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Paigelle on Jan 5^th, 2004, 5:42pm

on 01/05/04 at 17:38:56, Little Deb wrote:

Are your ears blue???? No???? You're good.

You could always ask jonny if sitting his _ss in a snow bank affected HIS brain.......

just a thought....little deb

(luv ya ole' blue balls jonny! ;;D)

But Deb, that didn't affected his internal brain, only froze his external one. Remember men have 2 brains!

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Little Deb on Jan 5^th, 2004, 5:45pm

Are you SURE????? I thought they only had one eensy weensy little one......in their "baggage" department....

i could be wrong.....little deb [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by juvy on Jan 5^th, 2004, 5:47pm

lol paigelle, but you have to remember that Jonny only had one brain to begin with. the space between his ears is just full of air.

[smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=sgrin.gif]

cheers,
Juvy

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Tiannia on Jan 5^th, 2004, 5:47pm

on 01/05/04 at 17:45:36, Little Deb wrote:

Are you SURE????? I thought they only had one eensy weensy little one......in their "baggage" department....

i could be wrong.....little deb [smiley=huh.gif]

No they have 2 but only enough blood to work one at a time. [smiley=crackup.gif]

Tiannia

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by jonny on Jan 5^th, 2004, 5:48pm

on 01/05/04 at 17:45:36, Little Deb wrote:

i could be wrong.....little deb [smiley=huh.gif]

You know you are!!!!....ROTFF ;;D

...............jonny

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Little Deb on Jan 5^th, 2004, 6:02pm

The PROOF is in the PUDDIN!

I know what I know and that is all I know...little deb ;;D

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by jonny on Jan 5^th, 2004, 7:15pm

on 01/05/04 at 18:02:34, Little Deb wrote:

The PROOF is in the PUDDIN!

Hmmmmmmm!!! ;;D

OK! :o

...................jonny

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Charlie on Jan 5^th, 2004, 7:25pm

Quote:

Does any one know what packing your head in ice until your head goes numb does to the brain?

Don't think it would hurt your brain unless you kept it up. The surrounding baggage compartment will hurt like help for a time. You have to assume that's for a good reason.

Charlie

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by pubgirl on Jan 5^th, 2004, 7:32pm

If you didn't get frostbite on the flesh on your head (God I hope you didn't!!!) then I can't imagine you could have hurt your brain as there is bone and fluid in the way as well as Charlie says.

Wendy (the Brit)

P.S. Good to see you here again Juvy. Sorry you are being hit so badly

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by eyes_afire on Jan 5^th, 2004, 8:38pm

http://home.att.net/~witchfinder/confused_smiley.gif

I don't know, I've only ever put ice on my eye until my eye goes partially numb. At the time it seems perfectly sane, only afterwards do I start thinking about frostbite.

--- Steve

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Tiannia on Jan 6^th, 2004, 12:14am

All joking aside, the only time that I have ever come close to this was at work. I had no meds, could not leave again and HAD to get from 1pm to 5. I filled a gallon size baggie with Ice and a Little water to mold better and held in to the back of my head behind my ear on the left side while i worked with one hand the rest of the day. It felt better once I got used to the cold. Even still have the baggie in the freezer for when I need it. I dont see where it can hurt you as long as you soft tissue is not effected or damaged.

Tiannia

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by BobG on Jan 6^th, 2004, 4:36am

Quote:

After exhausting all my meds the only thing that finally killed the attack was surrounding my head in ice packs until I literally numbed the brain of all feeling.

Since the brain has no nerves how would you know the brain was numb? ;)

Seriously though, I can't imagine packing your head in ice packs is going to get anything cold enough to cause any damage. The only thing that will be numb is the nerves between the skin and the skull.

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by don on Jan 6^th, 2004, 2:40pm

At some point I believe my wife was completely incased in ice and believe me the affects are long lasting.

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by ClusterChuck on Jan 6^th, 2004, 2:48pm

on 01/06/04 at 14:40:11, don wrote:

At some point I believe my wife was completely incased in ice and believe me the affects are long lasting.

ROTFLMFAO

Gee, I think my wife did that, too, but I think she is STILL in that condition!

Chuck

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Tiannia on Jan 6^th, 2004, 2:58pm

on 01/06/04 at 14:40:11, don wrote:

At some point I believe my wife was completely incased in ice and believe me the affects are long lasting.

ROFLMAO

hehe I dont think that has anything to do with the current condition that we are all suffering from.

I hear that diamonds have a way of melting that ice.

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by don on Jan 6^th, 2004, 7:09pm

A helicopter drop directly into an active volcano aint meltin that ice.

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by jonny on Jan 6^th, 2004, 7:16pm

Diamonds?.....LMAO ;;D

Try a blow torch in the shitter, kinda like a microwave...thaw from the inside out

Now were cooking with GAS!!!!!....LOL

.....................jonny

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by don on Jan 6^th, 2004, 7:19pm

Come to think of it.

What does it cost to rent a helicopter these days? 8)

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by ClusterChuck on Jan 6^th, 2004, 9:13pm

on 01/06/04 at 19:19:33, don wrote:

Come to think of it.

What does it cost to rent a helicopter these days? 8)

Can we get a bargain price? Two for the price of one?

Do you know where the nearest active volcano is, Don?

Chuck

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by toader on Jan 6^th, 2004, 11:10pm

I say go for it! This is my first experience with CH and the hotness and burning was just unbearable. I went around with an ice pack on my head day and night for 5 days straight. The coolness and yes, numbness does bring some measure of relief. I asked my neurologist and she said it was fine to continue the ice as long needed.

Best of Luck

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by 5-string on Jan 6^th, 2004, 11:36pm

Hello there Juvi,
The ice treatment works for me alot.
I could be wrong(although it would most definantly be the very first time if I were) but I thought that getting into a warm bath with ice at the base of your head works well because,in that condition, Your blood is being pulled toward you body and relieving pressure in the ole' nogin. Sooo...with that theory, you would'nt be numbing it so much as relieving pressure...??? did that make sense?? I don't know if it did to me....I hope that made sense.
..Back to reading...
..Mark..

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Ouch on Jan 7^th, 2004, 12:58am

Good thought! I have a pack of peas in the freezer... just in case all else falls ..... put the ice on your fore head.... usually this is a last resort thing... but it does help, when there is nothing left..... as far as effects.............. ive used it and look at me.. imm joust ous good asss gould givee its as trys! :-/

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by juvy on Jan 7^th, 2004, 6:13am

on 01/06/04 at 23:36:40, 5-string wrote:

makes perfect sense to me but I don't have a bath tub.

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by juvy on Jan 7^th, 2004, 6:20am

I spoke to a nurse yesterday and she said that instead of placing the ice directly on the scalp, it should relieve the pain faster if you place it on the sides of the neck and throat near the major arteries. This allows the system to pump cold blood directly into the brain. She said they do that with people who have severe head trauma.

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by BobG on Jan 7^th, 2004, 6:36am

The nurse has a good point but, I'll put the ice where it does the most good. Be it directly on my eye, my jaw or anywhere else.

I'm not trying to stop the pain of a little severe head trauma, I trying to stop a CLUSTER HEADACHE ;;D

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by juvy on Jan 7^th, 2004, 1:05pm

on 01/07/04 at 06:36:18, BobG wrote:

I'm not trying to stop the pain of a little severe head trauma, I trying to stop a CLUSTER HEADACHE ;;D

lol good point, but sometimes the scalp is too sensative for the ice directly

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Paigelle on Jan 7^th, 2004, 1:19pm

That makes sense. Think about, if we put the ice on the side of the neck then will help to constrict the vessels that pump the blood to our dreaded melons!

Title: Re: Ice Treatment ?'s
Post by Miklos on Jan 7^th, 2004, 2:32pm

If the "males with two brains" theory is correct, the fastest way to amerliorate a headache would be to facilitate a heightened state of arousal. Thus, all blood would rush from top to bottom leaving me unconscious and unaware of the cluster headache.

Interesting concept. I had never considered adding pornographic pictures to my list of preventatives. It might work if I could just keep my eyes open long enough to test the hypothesis.