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(Message started by: lars on Sep 27^th, 2004, 12:10pm)

Title: CH and Group Risks
Post by lars on Sep 27^th, 2004, 12:10pm

Are CH people in a risk group of possible future disabiliting brain seizures ? like thrombosis, stroke, tumor, etc?

And are CH people in a risk group of heart faillure?

Title: Re: CH and Group Risks
Post by Ronny on Sep 27^th, 2004, 4:40pm

Hi,

I dont think any side diseases come out of CH, not to my knowledge.

Heart attacks can happen from the abortives, such as imitrex injections. (edit: for people who are in a risk category)

Ronny.

Title: Re: CH and Group Risks
Post by Jonny on Sep 27^th, 2004, 4:52pm

Well, if we are I hope it hurry's the fuck up....I been dealing with this shit for 30 years

..........................................jonny

Title: Re: CH and Group Risks
Post by toolong on Sep 27^th, 2004, 6:21pm

My doctor claims that the CH won't kill me,but all the shit I have to take for them will...... [smiley=gocrazy.gif]David

Title: Re: CH and Group Risks
Post by alleyoop on Sep 27^th, 2004, 7:51pm

on 09/27/04 at 18:21:45, toolong wrote:

My doctor claims that the CH won't kill me,but all the shit I have to take for them will...... [smiley=gocrazy.gif]David

Damn good answer!

......................alley ;)

Title: Re: CH and Group Risks
Post by BobG on Sep 27^th, 2004, 8:57pm

on 09/27/04 at 12:10:07, lars wrote:

Are CH people in a risk group of possible future disabiliting brain seizures ? like thrombosis, stroke, tumor, etc?

And are CH people in a risk group of heart faillure?

IMHO, no.

But they do cause things like friendship, humor, support and conventions. And side affects like long distance phone calls, overflow in the in-box and pix of the kids.

Title: Re: CH and Group Risks
Post by lars on Sep 28^th, 2004, 4:46am

on 09/27/04 at 20:57:28, BobG wrote:

IMHO, no.

But they do cause things like friendship, humor, support and conventions. And side affects like long distance phone calls, overflow in the in-box and pix of the kids.

:) that is the nices answer EVER! thank you :)

my CH is about to bump at an time again. My eye's drooling again :( .( one week and one day :(

Title: Re: CH and Group Risks
Post by floridian on Sep 28^th, 2004, 8:11am

Clusterheads have a low heart rate variability (HRV). This is a statistic (like pulse, blood pressure, cholesterol, etc) that relates to heart health. In particular, clusterheads have a low heart rate variability, which means that our heart rates don't speed up and slow down in response to changing demand. This is not ideal and does increase heart risk, though I haven't seen anything that states exactly how big a risk this is.

N-3 oils (fish, flax, some nuts) have been shown to improve HRV in studies on non-clusterheads. Exercise and relaxation therapies are also beneficial. Those things are Generally a Good Idea, even more so for people with cluster headache.

Quote:

Ann Ital Med Int. 2003 Jan-Mar;18(1):42-6.

Heart rate variability in cluster headache.

Tubani L, Baratta L, Giorgino F, Delfino M, Fiore G, Golluscio V, Giacovazzo M.

Dipartimento di Medicina Clinica, Universita degli Studi La Sapienza di Roma.

Eight patients with cluster headache were studied by evaluating the heart rate variability on the basis of 24-hour ECG monitoring performed during attacks (critic periods) to demonstrate if any imbalance of the autonomic nervous system was present and to determine its temporal correlation, if any, with the attack. The same monitoring allowed us to compare the patients' data during headache-free periods (intercritic periods) with those of normal controls. Our investigation demonstrated a severe sympathovagal imbalance during spontaneous attacks: the parasympathetic drive is at once increased at the onset with a mild reduction of the sympathetic drive, and all these modifications slowly disappear at the end of each attack. Comparison of the average low-frequency and high-frequency values during intercritic periods showed a significant reduction in the low-frequency values in patients, even when the low-frequency/high-frequency ratio was normal. This is highly suggestive of the presence of an autonomic nervous system dysfunction.

Title: Re: CH and Group Risks
Post by vietvet2tours on Sep 28^th, 2004, 11:34am

From what i have read suicide is the only long term sideffect.Long term solution for a short term problem.