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Title: MSN Headache Article... Post by vig on Aug 30th, 2004, 10:22pm http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/46/1826_50688.htm?z=1826_50669_6512_0000_00_13 "Cluster headaches are a young person's disease" Oh? Other than that, it's pretty good. From the Cleveland Clinic. |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by IndianaJohn on Aug 30th, 2004, 10:57pm Pretty good article. The phrase that it's a young persons disease comes from the time of onset of the condition (I started with Ch when I was 28 ), so it's not entirely inaccurate. Best wishes John |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by Superpain on Aug 31st, 2004, 12:16am Quote:
That's not quite accurate. |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by pubgirl on Aug 31st, 2004, 2:22am Chris Should read: "common in people who USED to drink" :( W |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by PerryGR on Aug 31st, 2004, 6:44am Hello everyone, Quote:
To my knowledge this in not accurate either. I believe the IHS has altered that to 30 days and i think it is 30 consecutive days -not a number of pain-free days per year. PFDAN to all, Perry. |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by don on Aug 31st, 2004, 9:27am The article is more accurate overall than inaccurate. We should be grateful MSN has put out anything at all about CH. |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by Bob P on Aug 31st, 2004, 9:58am Quote:
My take is that it is very accurate. Clusterheads are much more boozers and smokers than the general population. After digging into 5HT I have come to believe that what causes us to have clusters also causes us to have addictive personalities. So, clusters are not caused by smoking and drinking but smoking and drinking is caused by the same thing that causes our clusters. |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by pubgirl on Aug 31st, 2004, 10:07am Bob I've always loved this theory too, because I can say that I'm not really a weak lily-livered individual who can't give up smoking, overeating and drinking ;;D I'm just a poor woman with a deformed hypothalamus who can't help it :'( Wendy |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by Bob P on Aug 31st, 2004, 11:16am What got me thinking that way was an article I saw that spoke of using certain 5HT agonists or antagonists (don't remember which) to treat alcoholism. Addiction is not a character flaw or weakness. Added: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=541&ncid=751&e=8&u=/ap/20040829/ap_on_he_me/treating_addiction |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by Superpain on Aug 31st, 2004, 4:06pm Bob I was referring to the symantics of that statement... "Cluster headaches are also common in people who smoke and drink alcohol frequently. " Is not accurate. An overwhelming majority of people that drink and smoke heavily do not have clusters. It should have read something like "Cluster headache sufferers have a high occurence of smoking and drinking frequently"... Or something... |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by Tom K on Aug 31st, 2004, 7:40pm Thought the article was pretty good, am printing it out and giving a copy to my boss, so he know's what the deal is. As for the drinking/smoking debate...my first CH was at 15, 21 years ago. I wasn't drinking, smoking or toking then, didn't start that for a couple of years after. My natural father on the other hand was a raging drunk and drug abuser. Is there a connection there? |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by don on Aug 31st, 2004, 9:44pm Tom? Am I your father? |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by Tom K on Aug 31st, 2004, 10:18pm on 08/31/04 at 21:44:29, don wrote:
Is that in the Darth Vader voice? LOL Unless you are posting from the dead, I don't think so...the boards can do a lot but I don't think they can handle that...yet... |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by BlueMeanie on Aug 31st, 2004, 10:51pm Very well written !! |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by Mr. Happy on Sep 1st, 2004, 1:01am on 08/31/04 at 22:51:23, BlueMeanie wrote:
Dang right, Blue. Dunno what more we could ask, considering the price of admission. Beauty catch, Vig. As for the addiction stuff, who gives a rat's patute. I drink, smoke, fish and vote. When a cycle starts, I can't drink, I smoke like a stack, fishing is too much work, and voting is a mistake. Last time, I pulled the REPUBLICAN Party lever. MOC still won't forgive me, RJ |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by eyhavhedaches on Sep 1st, 2004, 11:31am Nice artical, have to say that they are pretty much right on track with accuracy. I started my clusters at the age of 12. here I am now 21 years later hating the beast even more and more for it seems to become more severe with age! |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by Karla on Sep 1st, 2004, 4:19pm I read that article a couple of weeks ago and was impressed with how close they were on everything. |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by gpolma on Sep 1st, 2004, 7:12pm I'm interested in the statement that CH can be 100 times more intense than migraines. While I can testify to the severity of CH, I've never had a migraine. Can anyone who suffers both compare them for me? |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by pubgirl on Sep 1st, 2004, 7:25pm Hi gpolma I can't do it really but here goes with a few stabs When I had my first migraine I thought I was dying from a brain tumour. When I had my first cluster headache, I KNEW I was. I think migraine is now an irritation. Migraine is childbirth with gas and air A clusterheadache is worse than childbirth pain without pain relief and with someone taking your eyeball out with a road drill at the same time Migraine pain is to cluster pain what a broken fingernail is to an amputation without anaesthetic Nope, can't do it Wendy |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by Kris_in_SJ on Sep 1st, 2004, 9:00pm I'm with Don on this one. I'm grateful for any information that goes out to the public on this horrible sydrome, disease, or whatever it is you want to call it. Overall, I think it was pretty accurate, though I'd certainly never call this a young person's disease. I was 39 years old when I had my first cluster cycle. Do you think I could set some kind of weird record with that? Kris |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by crazy_mj on Sep 1st, 2004, 9:32pm on 09/01/04 at 19:12:37, gpolma wrote:
I agree with Wendy on this one... Here is my analogy...Migraine is like crying wolf and cluster is like being mauled by a pack of wolves!!! The first time I had a cluster (after about fifteen years of migraines) I thought that it was all over. My head was finally going to explode! Isn't strange how you can get used to one level of pain and think it is the most hideous on this earth, only to be shocked back into reality when experiencing about ten times worse??? |
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Title: Re: MSN Headache Article... Post by Tom K on Sep 1st, 2004, 9:39pm on 09/01/04 at 21:00:04, Kris_in_SJ wrote:
I think they were talking about the median age of Cluster Heads. on 09/01/04 at 21:00:04, Kris_in_SJ wrote:
I work with someone who just got their first CH in May. He is 59 and had no idea what was happening or where to go. Gave him a bunch of info from here and told him to go to a neuro. Hated to see another person join the victims of the Beast, but having 2 of us at work helps get the time off with no questions. |
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