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(Message started by: Curtis_Russell on Jul 8th, 2004, 2:19pm)

Title: Remedy for clusters starting on left side first
Post by Curtis_Russell on Jul 8th, 2004, 2:19pm
I have had cluster headaches for 5 years and have tried everything.  They often start on left side and sometimes travel over to the right side as well.  I have recently tried a homeopathic remedy called Lycopodium Clavatum 30ch.  It works within one hour.  But it only works if your cluster starts left and then sometimes or everytime heads to the right.

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by floridian on Jul 8th, 2004, 2:50pm

on 07/08/04 at 14:19:01, Curtis_Russell wrote:
I have had cluster headaches for 5 years and have tried everything.  They often start on left side and sometimes travel over to the right side as well.  I have recently tried a homeopathic remedy called Lycopodium Clavatum 30ch.  It works within one hour.  But it only works if your cluster starts left and then sometimes or everytime heads to the right.


???  Clusterheadaches are unilateral headaches - on one side. They occasionally jump from one side to the other, but I haven't heard of a cluster 'heading to the right.' If it starts on the left, it probably heads left and down as spreads on the trigeminal nerve.  

A 30ch homeopathic dilution contains zero Lycopodium.  Zero.  It is a dilution of 1 part lycopodium /1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 parts water (or whatever carrier is used).  Being statistically generous, if you had an ounce of that preparation,  the odds that it contained any Lycopodium would be around one in one hundred thousand.

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by Margi on Jul 8th, 2004, 4:08pm

on 07/08/04 at 14:19:01, Curtis_Russell wrote:
 It works within one hour.  


Hi Curtis, and welcome.  Although it is rare, I've seen my hubby's cluster switch from one side to the other, mid-attack.  That only ever happens for him at peak of cycle, though and then, maybe only 3 times in the 18 years I've been with him.  It will switch sides from one cycle to the next, but it is more commonly on one side.

If your homeopathic mix is aborting your attack in one hour, I'd think it's just the attack ending normally on it's own.  Clusters don't last much longer than that on average, unmedicated.

What other meds have you tried?  Have you tried oxygen as an abortive?  It's highly effective.  



Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by UN_SOLVED on Jul 8th, 2004, 4:13pm
Doesn't sound like CH or CH meds to me.

I've had clusters almost 16 years now and have never had one "head for the other side" during an attack.

Unsolved

PS.

on 07/08/04 at 14:19:01, Curtis_Russell wrote:
It works within one hour.

Unacceptable time to deal with multiple HA's everyday.  :o

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by Superpain on Jul 8th, 2004, 4:19pm
Any cluster medication that takes an hour to work is moot.

And if your headaches travel like that especially DURING the headache you most likely do not have cluster's, or you are in a percentile of people that starts with a dot and has a whole lot of zeros behind it. Like the odds of hitting the powerball squared....

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by Prense on Jul 8th, 2004, 6:06pm

on 07/08/04 at 14:19:01, Curtis_Russell wrote:
I have had cluster headaches for 5 years and have tried everything.  They often start on left side and sometimes travel over to the right side as well.  I have recently tried a homeopathic remedy called Lycopodium Clavatum 30ch.  It works within one hour.  But it only works if your cluster starts left and then sometimes or everytime heads to the right.


I'm entertained...

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Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jul 8th, 2004, 9:11pm
Sorry - but I'm also entertained.  Never heard of a CH doing that.

Kris

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by pubgirl on Jul 8th, 2004, 9:30pm
Curtis

Sorry, but I agree with the others. Most CH attacks only last about an hour anyway, and since it is the worst pain known to mankind, we would consider an abortive that took an hour to work total shit and not worth bothering with.

Wendy

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by Samantha_Smith on Jul 8th, 2004, 10:03pm
Yes, it is VERY rare but I have had a few CH that have switch from right to left in about 60 seconds or so.  I am primarily hit on my right but I have been hit very severely on my left (especially in the jaw area.)  I am skeptical of homeopathic meds though.  And it takes an hour to work????? That's not a CH.

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by don on Jul 9th, 2004, 7:02am

Quote:
But it only works if your cluster starts left and then sometimes or everytime heads to the right.


So it doesn't work if the headache goes right to left?

How about back to front?

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by kissmyglass on Jul 9th, 2004, 7:51am
sorry Don...only works if it goes from front to back...and left to right.....

pretty smart medicine....

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by don on Jul 9th, 2004, 9:14am
Do you get a free gyroscope with your first purchase?

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by farmboy on Jul 12th, 2004, 6:30pm
In all of the years that i have had clusterheadaches never have i experienced them switching sides. Also if something doesn't work within a few minutes from the time of application, i would tend to say that the ch just resided on it own. mine last only about 1.5 hours when at peak of my cycle. the rest of the time 30 to 60 minutes it the time span.

doubt  it works.

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by Root on Jul 16th, 2004, 11:26am
If you get a secret decoder ring with that, there might be some value.

Title: Re: Remedy for clusters starting on left side firs
Post by totka on Jul 16th, 2004, 5:00pm
Floridian:

Quote:
A 30ch homeopathic dilution contains zero Lycopodium.  Zero.  

There is not a word of truth in it! 10 cubic meter dilution contains one molecule of Lycopodium Clavatum.  ;;D What a snake oil!



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