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(Message started by: floridian on Jul 6^th, 2004, 11:31am)

Title: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by floridian on Jul 6^th, 2004, 11:31am

That's right, folks. Our superior salivatory nucleus is involved in the runny nose, tears, and drooping eyelid of an attack. This article didn't really say much that was new, but we now have a technical term to describe our drooling - autonomic dysfunction of the superior salivatory nucleus!

Quote:

Arq Neuropsiquiatr. 2004 Jun;62(2A):297-9. Epub 2004 Jun 23.

[Cluster headache: study of autonomic alterations and other associated manifestations in 28 cases]

[Article in Portuguese]

Tanuri Fd Fda C, Sanvito WL. Faculdade de Ciencias Medicas, Santa Casa de Misericordia de Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo, SP, Brasil.

The short lasting primary headaches are classified as those without autonomic activation and those with important activation, which includes the cluster headache. This study focuses on the pathophysiology of cluster headache mainly in its autonomic phenomenon (conjuntival injection, lacrimation, nasal congestion, rhinorrhoea, parcial ptosis and eyelid oedema) showing the involvement of superior salivatory nucleus with the pain stimulus propagation, which begins in the trigeminal nerve. The autonomic alterations were studied in 28 patients being lacrimation and conjuntival injection, the main features.

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by E-Double on Jul 6^th, 2004, 11:38am

on 07/06/04 at 11:31:03, floridian wrote:

Wow! I didn't know "WE" drool thought it was just me but didn't want to ask yet [smiley=laugh.gif]

Eric

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by floridian on Jul 6^th, 2004, 11:47am

Haven't heard much about drooling per se, but assumed most people with CH do it. Between the appreciable flow of fluids and the massive pain, I don't always pay attention to normal behaviors like wiping with a tissue.

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by Prense on Jul 6^th, 2004, 12:06pm

I'm normally wiping my eye/nose with a towel. I might drool as well, but I had not noticed...

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by miapet on Jul 6^th, 2004, 12:22pm

*nods* . . .i think there's a correlation between hardness of hit and drool . . . .higher kip levels seem to be most indicitive (just from observation)

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by E-Double on Jul 6^th, 2004, 12:25pm

Man I'm gonna feel like a tool if I'm the only one. LOL!
Seriously though, I find that I actually drool [smiley=spit.gif]when I'm shadowing really hard. It may also occur during a full blown but I'm usually busy with the other stuff as well.

This day is getting weirder and weirder....

Take care,

Eric

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jul 6^th, 2004, 8:00pm

I'm with you Eric - sure glad I'm not the only one who drools!

Kris!

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by don on Jul 6^th, 2004, 8:00pm

Quote:

autonomic dysfunction of the superior salivatory nucleus!

I hate it when that happens.

I've been drooling for 26 years.

Actually 46 but only 26 from the CH.

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by Samantha_Smith on Jul 6^th, 2004, 8:15pm

Hi my name is Samantha and I'm a drooler. Ohhh this is too funny. I feel sooooooo much better about myself now. Thanks Floridian once again for your endless research! You totally made my day. LOL.

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by E-Double on Jul 6^th, 2004, 9:26pm

on 07/06/04 at 20:15:51, Samantha_Smith wrote:

Hi my name is Samantha and I'm a drooler. Ohhh this is too funny. I feel sooooooo much better about myself now. Thanks Floridian once again for your endless research! You totally made my day. LOL.

We should have our own sub board--

Droolers anonymous

Actually, there may already be a 12 step program for droolers.

Hi my Name is Eric and I too am a drooler! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Thanks Floridian my day just got brighter! Peace!!

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by Superpain on Jul 7^th, 2004, 1:52am

I have to spit constantly when getting hit.

I also get a horrible copper-metallic taste too during bad ones.

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by ave on Jul 7^th, 2004, 7:22am

And about all these wet passtimes, I cannot say it too often:

1. Women may not have these symptoms after menopause
2. Or after hysterectomy
3. People irrespective of gender may not have them if they're diabetics.

All these conditions may and often will "dry up" the body. Less to no tears (dry crying), a thinner mucus layer (less headcolds)(some sexual problems).
Less spittle, and less drooling.

Just reminding you all...

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by alleyoop49 on Jul 7^th, 2004, 1:38pm

on 07/06/04 at 12:06:55, Prense wrote:

I'm normally wiping my eye/nose with a towel. I might drool as well, but I had not noticed...

DITTO

....................alley

Title: Re: Fresh Research - Drooling in CH
Post by thomas on Jul 8^th, 2004, 3:24pm

Wanna see me drool? Dangle a zomig in front of me whilst in the throes of sweet agony.