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(Message started by: Rock_Lobster on Mar 14^th, 2004, 7:27am)

Title: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Rock_Lobster on Mar 14^th, 2004, 7:27am

I have yet to find reference to this. Anyone else ever had it happen?

I am not speaking of blood dripping out of the nostril... just the mucous getting blood tinged, or a slight sense of blood in the back of the nose/throat.

The only times I notice it are:
-If I take a shot of Imitrex Nasal well into an nasty CH (40min+), it will come out tinged with blood.
- The morning after even a mild CH the shower will loosen up some bloody mucous from the HA side of the nose only. Might just be a tiny series of clots, but there it is.
- Well into an HA I will get that iron-like taste in the back of my throat. (if for some reason I do not abort it, which is like never)

No sinus infection. Just a regular normally timed once every 2-3 year January-March CH episode. First time with the blood thing.

Thx,
Rock

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Jackie on Mar 14^th, 2004, 7:36am

This has happened to Blake a few times.

We attributed it to Imitrex nasal spray, extensive 02 use (which can dry one out) and dry air in general.

Like you it was only a slight stain of blood.

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Melissa on Mar 14^th, 2004, 8:00am

I agree about the dry air. This time of year is terrible for that. I would suggest you purchase a humidifier, it helps tremendously!

:)mel

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by thomas on Mar 15^th, 2004, 9:27am

I always get blood out of my nostril on my ch side, before, during and for a little while after a cycle, it is one of my warning signs that a cycle is on the way.

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by ljd1963 on Mar 15^th, 2004, 9:57am

never had it happen...but probably just dry air..excessive O2...or Imitrex spray...I wouldn't get too alarmed...Jim aka(Luke)

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by broomhilda on Mar 15^th, 2004, 1:08pm

I have had two on ch side, very strange for me as I never get nosebleeds at all except when I was pregnant and that I am so NOT!!!!!!

Andrea

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by M8895 on Mar 15^th, 2004, 7:49pm

I've often had bloody dry mucus on the CH side often after a CH. It did happened each time during my stay at the Thomas Jefferson Clinic who specializes in CH. They said that it was normal and not to worry. The nurses told me that it was most likely due to 02 use and that they do see it quite often. Connie

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by sandie99 on Mar 16^th, 2004, 4:14am

Sorry,
it has never happened to me.

Best wishes & PFdays,
sandie99

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Rock_Lobster on Mar 16^th, 2004, 7:04am

Thx all. Good to see it is not just me.

Just fyi... I started o2 a few weeks ago... this has been going on for about two months on the CH side. Thus it is not an o2 thing... just another strange CH symptom.

Rock

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by thomas on Mar 16^th, 2004, 8:21am

on 03/16/04 at 07:04:02, Rock_Lobster wrote:

I agree, I haven't used O2 or any kind of nasal spray abortives in a long time.

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by broomhilda on Mar 16^th, 2004, 1:09pm

Me three, no o2 or nasal sprays here either!

Strange.......

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Pegase on Mar 26^th, 2004, 10:46pm

me too... got a bloody nose this afternoon in the hot shower... only bleed a couple of sec... and then stop... Not the first time it happenned to me this time of the year... bloody nose on the left side... CH on the right;-)

Pegase

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Turts on Apr 1^st, 2004, 8:01am

No not me, but I do get intense nose bleed before cycle. It will literally RUNNING out for up to ten minutes. I almost drown in it.

I use get a collapsed nostril after using Nasal Spray, but its was only the first 2 or 3 times.

I would not be concerned.

Turts

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by echo on Apr 1^st, 2004, 10:01am

Mine will bleed whenever I smash my head on the concrete too hard. But I think that's a different senerio.

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Luke63 on Apr 1^st, 2004, 10:27am

These things happen echo.....mine too when I crack my head against the O2 tank OUCH!!! But seriuosly...no bleeding.....but alot ..and i mean alot of clear discharge..as if I was swimming and get out of the pool.

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Pegase on Apr 1^st, 2004, 10:47am

Luke same for me... alot of clear discharge... My girlfriend is always buying a lot of tissues boxes...;-) Each morning I have a lot discharge and it's easy to empty my nose...but as the day goes on congestion comes and go and it's more difficult to empty my nose...

BTW.... since im on verapamil I seems to be using less tissues;-)

Pegase

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Jerry_Delicious on Apr 24^th, 2004, 10:23pm

I always feel as if my nose SHOULD be bleeding, just to give the outside world some indication of the pain I'm feeling, but it hasn't happened yet. All I get (asides from feeling like there's a tumor the size of Iceland behind my eye) is dizziness and loss of concentration (concentration intensifies pain).
Off topic, does anyone else get visual disturbances, I know these are more commonly associated with migraine sufferers (mine are definately clusters), but some times I get a sort of flaring effect in the CH side of my sight during bad attacks (man, I love brackets).

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by UN_SOLVED on Apr 25^th, 2004, 8:25pm

No nosebleeds here....ever (except for that one right after that nasty jetski accident a few years back) :o

Unsolved

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Redd715 on Apr 25^th, 2004, 9:20pm

Just to refresh, I've had HA attacks randomly over the last 13 years, and the past 1.5 years they became more and more frequent untill May 8th when I entered a full blown daily multi-attack a day cycle.

I have had very rare occasional streaking of blood, but I never assosiated it with the attacks. This Cycle has been going on for 7 weeks starting the 8th as of tomorrow, and I haven't had any blood at all. Lots of empty kleenex boxes though. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by floridian on Apr 26^th, 2004, 12:07pm

What you described doesn't sound too serious. Worth mentioning to your doc next time you see him, but a few spots of blood the day of or the day after a cluster headache probably isn't a sign of impending doom.

Imitrex can raise blood pressure - maybe enough to cause a little leaking, especially if the tissues are dried out. If anything, keep an eye on your blood pressure before and after taking trex.

Clusters themselves can cause fluctuating blood pressure, so if you have a thin nasal lining, a spot of blood could occur.

Clusters are associated with inflammation from histamine, nitric oxide, and other substances that cause more leakage from the capillaries.

Blowing your nose to deal with the runny clear stuff that most of us get can cause a little blood to leak.

Title: Re: Bloody nose during a CH?
Post by Ree on May 4^th, 2004, 12:03am

Nosy ree in here tonight ((get it Nosy ree??)) any way... Sometimes bloody noses are related to increase of blood pressure as well... It might be a good idea to check your BP while having an attack...if you can let anyone cuff ya.........without killing them... good luck and I hope they stop... Dave has used the nasal spray and I have too and haven't had any problems with nose bleeds. love to you Ree