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(Message started by: Ouch on Dec 27^th, 2003, 10:31am)

Title: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Ouch on Dec 27^th, 2003, 10:31am

Why does alcohol tigger some headaches? And why does it intensify the headache, and the length?

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Prense on Dec 27^th, 2003, 10:37am

I am to the point now that I feel I can say that alcohol itself is not a trigger for me, but beer, wine (red) and rum are definate triggers for me. Duration of an attack though does not seem affected for me...the severity is normally extreme from these triggers. I have no idea why these act as triggers for me, but these trigger in less than 30 minutes from the time consumption begins.

Chris

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Ouch on Dec 27^th, 2003, 10:43am

Well I know not for all.... but for me about every 5 out of 10 times I drink im relly taking a chance. If I have a couple of beers (4 or 5) and get on ...............Oh holy hell it last twice as long as hurts 3 time as bad!

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by chronic_chic on Dec 27^th, 2003, 11:08am

Chris,

I don't know anything about the Rum as far as a trigger, but beer and red wine have higher levels of tyramine than other types of alcohols. I know if you ever had to take a MAOI, which would be uncommon for CH, but common for other types of headaches, beer (especially tap beers and nondomestic bottled and canned beer) is banned, and so is red wine due to high levels of tyramine. Are there any other foods that trigger attacks for you?

~Lizzie :)

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by don on Dec 27^th, 2003, 11:12am

Quote:

5 out of 10 times I drink im relly taking a chance.

Dont drink for the first 5 times.

I've seen it her a thousand times.

Finally got a good neuro!
My meds are working!
Finally got to sleep !
Thanks for all the good vibes.
Great suggestions!

But fuck all of that I want to have a drink.

Why anyone will jeapordize any PF time when they know they are vulnerable to alcohol is beyond me . "I can't live with the pain but pass me a Bud Lite"

If booze is a trigger and you continue to test the beast then I guess your pain can't be that bad.

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by jonny on Dec 27^th, 2003, 11:19am

The beast loves me in this department.....BURP!!

..........................jonny ;;D

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Ouch on Dec 27^th, 2003, 11:35am

Hey don! Make it a Miller lite...

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by don on Dec 27^th, 2003, 11:39am

Make it whatever you want just dont start wineing about the pain later.

wineing....get it?

whining...wineing.........

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by jonny on Dec 27^th, 2003, 11:55am

HEY!!!!.....Someone lit my dog on fire....LMMFAO ;;D

BURP!!!

..................................jonny

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Prense on Dec 27^th, 2003, 12:50pm

on 12/27/03 at 11:08:08, chronic_chic wrote:

Are there any other foods that trigger attacks for you?

No...

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by thomas on Dec 27^th, 2003, 1:15pm

on 12/27/03 at 10:31:07, Ouch wrote:

Why does alcohol tigger some headaches? And why does it intensify the headache, and the length?

I don't know, however, conventional wisdome dictates, that while in cycle, do not imbibe. ;;D

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by brain_cramps on Dec 27^th, 2003, 1:45pm

on 12/27/03 at 10:31:07, Ouch wrote:

Why does alcohol tigger some headaches? And why does it intensify the headache, and the length?

<<
Alcohol is a vasodilator (it causes blood vessels to relax and widen), but at even higher levels, it becomes a vasoconstrictor, shrinking the vessels and increasing blood pressure, exacerbating such conditions as migraine headaches and dehydration.
>>

Maybe this explains why most (episodics) are triggered by alcohol very quickly.

It also may explain how a few people are apparently able to "outdrink" their HA. (That never worked for me and I don't recommend trying it. LOL)

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Ouch on Dec 27^th, 2003, 3:56pm

Don nobody was whining... just asking a question! :- 8)

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by jonny on Dec 27^th, 2003, 3:59pm

YEAH!!!!!

STFUD ;;D

...........................jonny

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by don on Dec 27^th, 2003, 4:08pm

Burn dem doggies .

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Ouch on Dec 27^th, 2003, 4:12pm

Don, do you have the same problem as me or Jonny? [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by jonny on Dec 27^th, 2003, 4:27pm

Gee, now I have problems?

Thanks...now I can address them.....LMMFAO ;;D

.....................Problems

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Ouch on Dec 27^th, 2003, 4:30pm

Im affraid to ask what LMMFAO stands for. [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by don on Dec 27^th, 2003, 4:43pm

Quote:

Thanks...now I can address them.....LMMFAO

.....................Problems

Need a Bam-Bu-Lance?

Quote:

Im affraid to ask what LMMFAO stands for.

Thats an easy one, you'll figure that one out.

Try this one;

LMMFYBO

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Ouch on Dec 27^th, 2003, 4:49pm

Not sure............tell me! [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Cerberus on Dec 27^th, 2003, 6:56pm

Ouch,
Brain Cramps said it best, Also, not a real good idea to drink while in cycle as a general rule, If you are a chronic sufferer, then I reckon it makes no difference, and by all means do not deprive yourself of life's pleasures ( ya only live once ya know).
Me? I'm calling myself out of cycle and gonna get reaaaal shitty at the meet n greet next month.

Ramon

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by ClusterChuck on Dec 28^th, 2003, 2:02am

Ouch, I don't know why, but I know some alcohol triggers, and some doesn't.

For purly scientific reasons, I have been conducting tests these past few days. The preliminary results are as follows:
Gin (as in VERY dry martinis) does not trigger for me. Even after a LOT of them.
Drambui, does not trigger
Rum (especially Bacardi's 151) DEFINATE trigger.
Beer is not a trigger.

The above findings are only valid for the subject under test, and YMMV. Further testing is fully planned for the next few days. After all, in order for this to be a valid experiment, the tests must be run again and again and again and again and again .... Hic!!!

Shyuck..k..k... (burp!)

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Unsolved on Dec 28^th, 2003, 2:32am

I miss my booze [smiley=me&mb.gif]

But I know...as soon as I start drinking ... my head starts POUNDIN' >:(
Not worth it !!

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by don on Dec 28^th, 2003, 7:14pm

Quote:

Further testing is fully planned for the next few days.

You are a marvel amongst clusterheads.

The lengths this guy will go to to help others.

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by jonny on Dec 28^th, 2003, 7:17pm

Bam-Bu-Lance...............................LMMFAO ;;D

.............................jonny ;;D

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by BlueMeanie on Dec 28^th, 2003, 7:53pm

Cluster_Chuck.

If you're out there, drink a J.D. & coke for your experiment. I'm still in cycle and would like to know what to drink at the Midwest Meet & Greet.

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by don on Dec 28^th, 2003, 8:00pm

Thats easy.

Water. Lots and lots of water.

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by Smartin on Dec 29^th, 2003, 3:55pm

Funny to read that some can "outdrink" the HA. I've been doing that for years! If I have one or two of most any kind of alcoholic drink...here comes the beast. So if I decide to have one I have to hand off the keys and have five or six. so I don't do it very often during a cycle, but when I do...I'm the life of the party.

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by CJohnson on Dec 29^th, 2003, 4:58pm

on 12/27/03 at 13:45:09, brain_cramps wrote:

Alcohol is a vasodilator (it causes blood vessels to relax and widen), but at even higher levels, it becomes a vasoconstrictor, shrinking the vessels and increasing blood pressure, exacerbating such conditions as migraine headaches and dehydration.
Maybe this explains why most (episodics) are triggered by alcohol very quickly.
It also may explain how a few people are apparently able to "outdrink" their HA. (That never worked for me and I don't recommend trying it. LOL)

In addition to this excellent point, calcium channels are prominent targets of alcohol.

Calcium Channels: Critical Targets of Toxicants and Diseases

http://ehpnet1.niehs.nih.gov/docs/2000/108p1215-1218audesirk/audesirk-full.html

PFDANs
-Curtis

Title: Re: Why does alcohol effect?
Post by ClusterChuck on Dec 30^th, 2003, 12:16am

on 12/28/03 at 19:53:03, BlueMeanie wrote:

Cluster_Chuck.

If you're out there, drink a J.D. & coke for your experiment. I'm still in cycle and would like to know what to drink at the Midwest Meet & Greet.

You bastard!!! I have been having such good luck, except with the Bacardi's 151, I figured, what the hell, I'll give JD a shot...Been a while since I had any .. I'll go for it!

Just call me dumb fuck!!! That sucker slammed me like a ton of bricks!!! O2 didn't touch it. Had to wait it out, and it was a doosey!! Ole buddy Jack is now at the top of my keep-away-from list!!!

Chuck