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(Message started by: judyw on Nov 18^th, 2003, 8:35am)

Title: Received this morning,
Post by judyw on Nov 18^th, 2003, 8:35am

Just read @www.mgh.harvard.edu. that alcohol relieves clusters. I dont think so @ least in my case they dont. What do make of this? Thanks.

Anyone else read up on this information? I know what is posted here, but being a lifetime non-alcoholic drinker, have no opinion myself...so feedback please...

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by aprilbee on Nov 18^th, 2003, 8:39am

I couldn't bring up the article, but alcohol is probably, no absolutely the #1 trigger for me, I stay completely away when in cycle, and I really don't drink much when out of cycle...Lucy, you got som splainin to do.... ::)

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by brain_cramps on Nov 18^th, 2003, 9:14am

couldn't find the article either.....

just hoping I didn't pick a bad time to quit drinking LMAO ;)

grant 8)

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by Paigelle on Nov 18^th, 2003, 9:27am

I can have one glass of red wine and start a cycle. But I will have to go read the article to see exactly what there theory is.

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by phishphan on Nov 18^th, 2003, 10:05am

well I dont know what to make of it...I do know that when I have a bad cluster, a few beers later I dont feel shit..

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by judyw on Nov 18^th, 2003, 10:11am

Neuro-WWW.mgh.harvard.edu/forum_2ClusterHeadaches...Grant graciously sent me the exact address...as I got distracted reading other posts...lots of posting there would sure benefit from OUCH, of course, just my opinion...wish they would accept hotmail addys...

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by Mark C on Nov 18^th, 2003, 10:14am

In cycle I can take ONE drink and get hammered 15 minutes later...damndest thing...and I like to drink.

However....my "Alternative Therapy" (http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=meds;action=display;num=1067037622) has worked so well I find myself having a little Rum before bed with no problems.....amazing! Stopped a cycle dead in it's tracks.

http://tinyurl.com/via4

Cheers!

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by brain_cramps on Nov 18^th, 2003, 10:24am

I wouldn't really call it research... Just some guy's observation that 1 beer gives him a CH, but when he pounds 5 fast ones at the onset of a HA, it relieves the pain.

Not sure that I buy into that one......... ::)

YMMV,
grant ;;D

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by don on Nov 18^th, 2003, 11:40am

Can you direct me to where on the MGH site you found the article.

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by Kirk on Nov 18^th, 2003, 11:48am

When in cycle. One drink, 15 minutes later WHAMMO.

TTFN

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by forgetfulnot on Nov 18^th, 2003, 2:40pm

I Did a search for cluster and got this link to some very important research.

http://receptor.mgh.harvard.edu/Investigators/Drummond/MajumdarDB.pdf

Lee ;;D

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by floridian on Nov 18^th, 2003, 2:55pm

Clusters of cells in fish kidneys. Another obscure disease. I don't think I got this one. [smiley=bag.gif]

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by brain_cramps on Nov 18^th, 2003, 3:21pm

Don

I think this is what she meant. It sounded like it when I was talking to her this morning.

See my post above.

for what its worth...

http://neuro-www.mgh.harvard.edu/forum_2/ClusterHeadacheF/12.21.991.40PMAlcoholReli.html

http://tinyurl.com/vk4y

If not, maybe we can get a little clarification from Judy.

grant

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by floridian on Nov 18^th, 2003, 3:34pm

Even if the "pound 4 beers quickly method" works (and thats a big if), alcoholism is a real concern. That post is curious, but I don't know if its good advice. Two summers ago I gave up not drinking and had about 6 beers while at an arena footbal game. The next day, the beast came a banging and I was into a cycle.

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by Paigelle on Nov 18^th, 2003, 3:35pm

So this article is basically telling us that getting drunk is the answer. So, what about the chronic ones? Does that mean that would be clusterheads and alcoholics? I think there is more to that than he is telling.

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by don on Nov 18^th, 2003, 3:50pm

Thanks brain.

I had similar experiances when I drank. I drank alcoholically so NOT drinking was not an option at the time. My way around the CH was to consume many drinks in rapid succession and that would sometimes get me by the attack.

It also gave me a great reason to get drunk. Medicinal purposes. Always heard a lot of muffled laughter at the local VFW when I said that. Sounded good to me anyway!

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by sixtyminuteman on Nov 18^th, 2003, 3:53pm

I sure wouldn't try this. During the cycle of CHs thst just ended, I was a tea-totaller for the duration. Taking a drink is the way I test to be SURE they're gone.

Title: Re: Received this morning,
Post by Prense on Nov 18^th, 2003, 7:43pm

Before I was diagnosed with chronic CH, I knew that I could "pound" beers (at least 3) quickly to the buzz state, and I would avoid HAs...it was key to "ride the buzz" from there. From that knowledge, when I would start to feel an attack come on, I have tried the same method...don't do that! BAD IDEA!! If I have even the mildest of shadows and I drink beer, no matter how fast, it will turn into the MOAH (mother of all HAs)! If I am PF, and I drink at a "social" rate (no more than 1 per 30-40 minutes), then I get hit somewhere around 80% of the time. The same holds true for me with rum as well. So far, I have never had vodka trigger an attack. I'm not sure I want to try and see with other liquors and/or whiskey. I haven't tried the "slamming" method since being diagnosed, and I have given up beer and rum...actually, I rarely drink anything anymore.

[smiley=beer.gif]

Chris