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(Message started by: andy on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 1:59pm)

Title: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by andy on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 1:59pm

http://www.wfubmc.edu/neurology/newha/chapter.htm#OUTLINE%204 Hot dog headache
In the IHS Classification, this is known as nitrate/nitrite induced headache. Raskin and his associates have described an entity termed "hot dog headache." As he points out (1988 ) many patients experience various degrees of headache shortly after eating frankfurters or other cured meat products. The evidence implicates the nitrite content of these foodstuffs as the cause of headache. Similar to NTG-induced headaches, they are usually bitemporal or frontal, pulsatile about half the time, and are sometimes accompanied by facial flushing. Patients experiencing these symptoms are sensitive to as little as 1 mg sodium nitrite (Henderson and Raskin, 1972), a dose that is hardly likely to exert direct effects upon arterial walls (Crandill et al, 1931). The observation that nitrite impurities in rock salt caused red patches in cured meat led to the deliberate use of fixed concentrations of salt and nitrite to produce a more uniformly colored product.
The coloring agent was not sodium nitrate, but sodium nitrite, which is formed in meat by the bacterial and chemical reduction of nitrate; nitrites have been generally substituted for nitrates in the curing process. Nitrite and its decomposition product, nitric oxide, react with myoglobin and hemoglobin to form the red compounds, nitrosomyoglobin and nitrosohemoglobin (Halliday, 1967). Human endogenous synthesis of nitrate occurs de novo and is increased by the ingestion of nitrite (Lee et al, 1986). Government regulations limit the nitrite levels reached during the treatment of cured meats to 200 ppm (200 mg/kg meat); cooking and storage lead to a reduction in the nitrite concentration so that the nitrite concentration of cured meat is 50 to 130 mg/kg.

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by Ree on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 7:04pm

Dave wont touch hot dogs.........LOL so there goes that theory.........lol ree

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by don on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 7:06pm

Processed meats are a classic migraine trigger. Probably triggers CH to.

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by CC on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 7:58pm

No No No I won't believe it!

Hot Dogs Rule!!

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by andy on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 8:06pm

100% all beef, no weiners, or franks ............andy

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by tsayswhy on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 8:31pm

I tried to read the hot dog post but too many big words dont have a dictionary "i must get one" ;D

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by Turts on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 9:04pm

Ill stick with the good ole Aussie Meat Pie!!!

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by Ueli on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 9:32pm

Does it make a difference if you take the hot dogs with mustard or ketchup?

I hear ketchup contains a lot of MSG. So for me hot dogs with ketchup would give me a ketchup headache....

Ueli

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by OneEyeBlind on Oct 4^th, 2003, 12:34am

I'll just LMAO and enjoy the fact that most nights I cook dinner ! And no, hotdogs are not considered a proper meal !

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by brain_cramps on Oct 4^th, 2003, 8:31am

Hotdogs (or "maycontains"... may contain beef, may contain pork, may contain chicken, may contain ??...) are the worst substitute for food ever invented.

In the only good thing about them is "weiner-water soup". :P ;)

kielbasa-lover Grant 8)

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by Opus on Oct 4^th, 2003, 11:12am

I have dropped all nitrate/nitrite from my diet to stop the migraines, does nothing to stop CH for me.

Opus/Paul

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by cootie on Oct 4^th, 2003, 11:21am

I been buyin turkey franks (fer cookout stuff off and on).........nothin but the best beaks and butts fer us Pam

Opps I got censor'd ::)

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by Woobie on Oct 4^th, 2003, 12:50pm

Hot dogs..........

I have a good friend who has worked at the Oscar Mayer plant in Davenport, Iowa for the last 26 years.

I will NOT touch hot dogs... no - I will not......

No Lunchables for MY kids......(man, they hate me!!)

No Nitrates -
Tina :-*

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by cootie on Oct 4^th, 2003, 11:52pm

My bolongna has a second name it's M..A..Y.. E..R......oh good grief now that song is gonna go thru my head all nite after the mention of Oscar Mayer ! I ain't much of a meat eater but I like hotdogs and bolonga.....sumthins wrong with me Pam :P :P :P

Don't they make veggie dogs and bolonga yet ?

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by nancyc on Oct 5^th, 2003, 12:15am

Oh, i wish i was an Oscar Meyer weiner...then everyone would be in love with me LMAO...smiles,nancyc

Title: Re: Hot Dog Headaches
Post by brain_cramps on Oct 5^th, 2003, 12:25am

"My weiner has a first name --- It's H-O-M-E-R"

Homer Simpson (singing while sitting in the bathtub) ;D