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Title: WHY? Post by Svenn on Sep 4th, 2003, 4:44pm When all this fighting still is going on here i see no reason to stay here in Clusterville,so i think its the best to back out from Clusterville now. In no way can i axept that a fellow clusterhead/supporter "throw stones" on a fellow clusterhead like today. Have been here for some 3 years now,and have got a lot of friends here.Thank you to all of you.Believe that i will treasure that friendship for the rest of my life. Refuse to tell names here because im a bit afraid to leave some friend out.Thats why this way. Wish you all the very best. The very best from Svenn |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Roxy on Sep 4th, 2003, 4:50pm :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Svenn, I do hope you change your mind....and please come back. You will be missed. |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by cathy on Sep 4th, 2003, 4:52pm :'( :'( :'(...Svenn im sorry your leaving is there anything we can do to make you stay...? I know where to find you if you don't stay, but I think your making a mistake. Cathy :'( |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by ZAIRA on Sep 4th, 2003, 4:56pm :'( :'( NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Svenn..... PLS, stay with us.... Do it for to your friends that love you... Think about it...... don't go, you are a special friend and supporter... you give us to all your love and support... always... don't leave us..... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( PLS, don't leave us!!! I miss you, Zazi :-[ :'( :-/ :-X |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by suzy617 on Sep 4th, 2003, 5:20pm Svenn, please stay! Your right, you do have alot of friends here and to leave just because of one or two idiots would not be fair to us. We would miss you too much. :( Suzy who will never leave unless DJ chooses otherwise... |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by jonny on Sep 4th, 2003, 5:22pm Bye Bye Svenn........remember the song? ....................................jonny |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by OneEyeBlind on Sep 4th, 2003, 8:58pm Svenn, some day I will catch up with you in Norway .... so there is no use leaving !!!!!!!!!! There is more good than bad on this board on any given day of the week ................ so why not stay ???????? |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by cootie on Sep 4th, 2003, 9:07pm Svenn is leaveing.....huh.......I musta missed sumthin really BIG on here......always thought him to be the cool yule ! Wow.......I think there's a time when ya jus gotta carry on and ignore the shit if ya really like this place......(sumtimes ya need ta say yer 2 cents tho)....been noticein a pattern that it will get quiet for a while then.......look out.....the natives get resltess. Course I mite think differently if I got sum shit myself.......I jus try not ta do anything I don't want done ta me.........paybacks are a bitch Pam |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by katethecelt on Sep 4th, 2003, 9:22pm Svenn, PLEASE, PLEASE do NOT leave! Remember, "take what you need and leave the rest." You are a wonderful friend and one of the first to make me feel like family here. So please do not break my heart :'( :'( :'( You are a true friend & I will be looking for you. Hugs, Kate |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Charlie on Sep 4th, 2003, 9:50pm I haven't been here enough today to notice any more infighting. I'll get there and I agree that it's pretty dumb. Nevertheless: I go along with Den. Pay little or no attention. It tends to blow over too. The board needs your help as well as your friendship. Svensk Charlie |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Peppermint on Sep 4th, 2003, 10:13pm SVENN!! :( |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by fubar on Sep 4th, 2003, 10:40pm Svenn, You do what you feel you must do. I missed this episode, as well as a few others. Maybe that's why I don't even open half of the threads anymore. I like it when I miss that senseless, juvinile crap. I mean, if a topic is a cry for help or something like that, of course I'll open it. But I skip a lot of the others these days. Oh well. -Fu |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Donna on Sep 4th, 2003, 11:08pm Svenn.... It is a sad that you feel that you must leave. I've seen your frustration with this sort of nonsense before and I know how it bothers you. You are a nice person and it is our loss if you don't stay with us. Will you re-think this please? You may be a sufferer, but you've also been one of our greater supporters.....so will you stay with us in the Supporters Corner? Hugs and Prayers, Donna 8) |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by stevegeebe on Sep 4th, 2003, 11:24pm Svenn....Svenn....Svennnnnnnn You will be assimillated....Do not resist...You powers are no match to the Clusterborg....You will be assimillated.. Svennnn....Svennnnn.... Steve Gborg |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Mastifflvr28 on Sep 4th, 2003, 11:30pm from Mastborg... Svenn, please reconsider, you are needed here and loved!! |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Mr.Happy on Sep 5th, 2003, 1:00am Svenn, You are (and have been), since the first time we spoke.........my friend. I understand where you are coming from, all too often. Wish there was another way you could make your point. Alas, RJ |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Carla_Comiter on Sep 5th, 2003, 2:58am OK, jumping in here even though still a Newbie. Families fight. All kinds of families fight (blood relations, community groups, churches, support groups). As long as we view conflict as a problem, as long as we believe we will ever be conflict-free, we are setting ourselves up for perceived failure. But when we view a degree of conflict as a normal part of human interactions, and greet it as such, then we win. I've noticed the negative threads since I've been on the board. I can't follow them, suspect they are augmented with private messages and email among the members, and I don't know the principals well yet. So I shrug them off. But as each person brings his or her pain to us, that pain, the doubt and questions it carries with it, and the individual's history in relationships, will color their interpretations and reactions. This is true for each of us. Whereas messages that seem like angry attacks on a member can cause a ripple in the community, they in a way reflect the needs of the sender. The sender's anger also may be misplaced venting, etc. If we take the high road, perhaps we can honor another person's reaction even when we disagree with it. We are safe here. I don't know if there is a true history of "fake" members playing pranks or misleading our community. But even if this happens, the perpetrator (don't be too impressed, I had to look that one up!) is still in some kind of pain--maybe not CH, maybe "just" psychological, but pain nonetheless. What harm can it cause us? One of my favorite quotes, by Eleanor Roosevelt, goes something like this: "No one can demean you without your permission." Oh well, it's so late that it's early and I'm preaching, so I'll stop. Sending extra prayers and healing light to our family members who are suffering at this time of night. Please know that you are loved. Carla |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by brain_cramps on Sep 5th, 2003, 6:50am Svenn After talking to you, I understand your motive for leaving. While this is like a microcosm of life, it is in no way LIFE... and the only real LIFE. (if that makes sense ::)) ---- It reminds me of rehab at the alcohol treatment center --- things can get intense and emotional, but it is in no way the only REAL life out there. As was said earlier, all families fight. BUT afterwards the members of this family have a REAL life that doesn't 'exist' on a computer monitor (or inside the group therapy room as the case may be) that they go home to and deal with more tangible issues --- ie family, bills, jobs, etc... While not trying to belittle anyone here, it is important to keep the two separate and the value of each in perspective. Svenn, I hope you realize that you will be welcome if you decide to change your mind. After the time spent talking to you, I consider you a good friend and GREAT person. just the incoherent babbling of someone going thru "Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome", grant P.S. Day 27 and counting... |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Carl_D on Sep 5th, 2003, 6:56am Svenn, don't let a few sour apples keep you away from the tree. There are some very good apples here, and it would be a shame to have to miss them. As for the fighting on this or any other board, though I'd 'enter the ring' in the past, I refuse to. I will not engage myself in a battle of the wits, as it would be no competition... just kidding. Seriously though, there are alot of very good people here, and we all need each other. I REFUSE to be a part of someone else's drama. I prefer what I am used to in my life - tragic comedy. Peace, and please reconsider, Carl D |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by jminmilwaukee on Sep 5th, 2003, 7:35am Sven, sven sven...........as an American of Norwegian blood, I have to intervene here. We (the Norwegians) are a strong people with thick skins and hardened souls. Our ancestors "discovered" America long before Crissy boy Columbus. Our ancestors survived by piliging and plundering, nothing ever got in thier way. The great Norse Men of old were feared and respected by all. Having said that, I refuse to let you snake out of here without a better excuse than "I don't like the fighting". Stap on your horned helmut and take no prisoners. Think of what would have become of our people had they slinked away over a little fighting. Hell, we'd all be speaking Swiss!!!!! jmin |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by taraann on Sep 5th, 2003, 7:38am I'm so sorry to see you go Svenn, I've only talked to you a few times but from those times I could see you are a very caring person. I hope you change your mind and come back |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Mastifflvr28 on Sep 5th, 2003, 8:22am I'm chatting with Svenn on msn right now, and although I can't talk him into coming back, he has a message for everyone. He really hopes everyone understands "WHY" he left. But he wanted to say, He loves you ALL, and he will NEVER forget friends. Mast |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by echo on Sep 5th, 2003, 8:35am Take care of yourself Svenn. We will continue to wonder what you're up to and how you are doing. Hopefully our paths will cross again in the future. I for one of many, will miss communicating with you. |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by don on Sep 5th, 2003, 8:54am You've been a good addition to this board. Thanks for the memories. Hope you do well. |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Cooked Brain on Sep 5th, 2003, 10:26am as for the WHY i dont understand WHY!!!?? Svenn get back here A.S.A.P. people need you here!!! >:( :( ??? :-[ :-/ :'( |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Lori on Sep 5th, 2003, 1:11pm I think we all need to remember the saying... TAKE WHAT YOU NEED, AND LEAVE THE REST! I think whoever came up with that is brilliant! Seriously! JOIN OUCH! Help support those who come here wanting help! Help educate the world about CH! Leave the rest! |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Major_Headcase on Sep 5th, 2003, 1:28pm Dear Svenn, I hope you'll reconsider leaving and just make it an "extended leave of absence" ... your input and support will be sorely missed. :'( But just in case you don't return, let me take this opportunity to say THANK YOU one more time for the help you gave me. The famed "Svenn's Cocktail" for CH saved me my last cycle, and I usually cut & paste it for those with questions about treatment/prevention, ie Verapamil, O2, and prednisone. It's right on advice and, if nothing else, will be your "legacy of Hope" here on this forum. Again, my sincere thanks to you. God Bless you, Svenn. -John [another American-Danish boy who understands] |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Edna on Sep 5th, 2003, 1:36pm :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( NOTHING could express what I'm feeling right now EDNA |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by fjb on Sep 5th, 2003, 6:33pm Wow... is anybody keeping score of the people that leave the board? I know why new people wouldn't want to post here... we read the board but usually don't want to post anything. The support part of ths board doesn't work for some people, at least it didn't this summer for us, thank you. New people would just be scared off...Barbara |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by jonny on Sep 5th, 2003, 9:12pm on 09/05/03 at 18:33:31, fjb wrote:
Take what you need and leave the rest.....Is that so hard? .......................................jonny |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by FrankF on Sep 5th, 2003, 10:13pm "Take what you need and leave the rest" is a nice concept. But why should I and others have to wade through hundreds of bullshit posts to find anything worthwhile to read here in the first place? "Take what you need and leave the rest" does not convey a license to post hateful, hurtful, obscene, obnoxious rumors, speculation, innuendo, lies, half-truths, or other offensive crap about other members here, etc. It pisses me off when I have to wade through shit started by someone who had no proof what they were talking about when they started a crap thread, and it pisses me off even more when clueless idiots reply agreeing with them. As has been suggested many times before... anyone has a problem with another person here? PLEASE TAKE IT TO EMAIL OR IM. That way, I and others can get what we came here for which is "cluster information" and "cluster support" without having to "take what I need and leave the rest". |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by Lori on Sep 5th, 2003, 11:32pm Frank, I do understand what you're saying and maybe people should argue thru email but that is not always going to be the case. So, you can either leave because of it or ignore it. I can't image anyone having the time to sit here reading every post anyway. When I see a post straying, I skip them usually (unless I'm bored). We can easily get out of reading a post if we want to. I think I just hit the back button. Look for subjects you have time for. Leave the rest. I am only trying to make a suggestion here so you and others can avoid wading thru hundreds of posts like you say. I don't like that people get mean either but I can't control that. I can control what I read though. I hope this helps. |
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Title: Re: WHY? Post by cootie on Sep 6th, 2003, 12:54am Sumtimes....fer sum people here......takein what ya need and "reading" the rest is all the support they need....or want at the time. Pam that is entertained different ways different days |
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